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Title: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Checkmate on January 19, 2018, 11:35:09 am
NEW HAMPSHIRE
Record:
7-12 (3-2 America East)
Last Game: L, 67-56, vs. Vermont 1/18
Last 10: 5-5
Last Meeting: Stony Brook 64-61 on 2/1/17; Woodhouse team-high 21; erased 8-point halftime deficit
CM Unofficial Line: New Hampshire -2.5
KenPom RPI: Stony Brook 212, New Hampshire 243
KenPom Prediction: New Hampshire 68, Stony Brook 66
Listen/Watch:
TV: http://www.espn.com/watch/?gameId=400991554
Stony Brook radio: http://www.whli.com/listen-live.aspx
Notables:
6-7/230 sr F Tanner Leissner 19.7 ppg, 8.3 ppg, .355 3-pt FG%, .781 FT%
6-9/230 sr F Iba Camara 9.4 ppg, 11.0 rpg, .482 FG%
6-7/230 gr F Jacoby Armstrong 7.8 ppg, 4.2 rpg, .811 FT%
6-0/190 jr G Jordan Reed 7.5 ppg, .352 3-pt FG%
6-1/190 so G John Ogwuche 5.8 ppg, .500 3-pt FG%, .889 FT%

As we've seen over and over the last few years, everything is going to run through Leissner. He's a no frills, blue-collar kid who's going to battle underneath, get to the line a million times, and knock down shots from the perimeter on occasion. A Tyler Hansbrough kind of player. Unlike some of our bigs, he's been uber consistent – no fewer than 14 points in any game this year, and a high of 32 in UNH's win over in-state foe Dartmouth. If he was a Seawolf all this time, we'd all love him.

Between him, Camara and Armstrong, their size is very difficult to ignore, and whether we can rebound in spite of that size will go along way in determining our success. UNH isn't a team that's going to blow anybody out, and they likely won't get blown out either. Scoring is not their strong suit, not with an ugly .415 shooting percentage.

What's even less concerning is that they flat-out do not turn the other team over. On the surface, you'll see that they force 10-plus turnovers a game, but take out the 23 turnovers by Wheelock and the 29 by Lyndon State, and you have a team that has forced double-digit turnovers just three times this year – 10 against Dartmouth, Albany and Vermont. Turnovers have been a major weakness for us this year, so if we can hold onto the ball, I like our chances.

One wild card is the emergence of the kid Ogwuche. His minutes were up and down to start the season, but he's really come on of late, dropping in a team-high 17 against Vermont yesterday. That broke his previous career high from three days earlier when he went for 15 in a win at UMass Lowell. He's hit 9 of his last 15 threes dating back to the Dartmouth game on 12/30. Just something to keep an eye on. They may have found themselves a shooter for the next three years.

It's with only modest enthusiasm that I say that I think we go up there and win this one.
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 19, 2018, 11:56:36 am
leissner has been one of my favorites to watch over the years.  a really nice complete player inside.  a first teamer for sure.

our squad is getting harder to predict- who'll get minutes, who will handle the ball, who will be our bigs inside (if any), who will get into foul trouble.

GO SB
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Seawolf97 on January 19, 2018, 12:09:50 pm
This is  going to be a tough one for our guys .    I  could easily see UNH  grabbing a win at home.
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: sbupatriots on January 19, 2018, 10:59:59 pm
UNH by 4. If we win this one I think we have a shot at a top 2 seed (similar to my feeling after last seasons game at UNH).
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Seawolf97 on January 20, 2018, 04:48:03 pm
We cant go into our fade away mode  at UNH .
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Moveitfred on January 20, 2018, 05:02:45 pm
Always liked that hard-working Leissner, and if SBU cannot make a miracle run through the AE playoffs down the road I hope he and UNH can be strong contenders.

This SBU team is impossible to predict, but my gut says they drop this one and maybe get UNH at home for the next one.
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 21, 2018, 02:14:43 pm
both teams ugly shooting.  we go on fire for a few min at a time, and then disappear.  big day for cornish.  saintel showing flashes of talent again.  some nice moves from petras.
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 21, 2018, 02:18:01 pm
ive also counted about 5 shots that didnt even hit the rim.
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 21, 2018, 02:38:03 pm
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Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Checkmate on January 21, 2018, 02:46:57 pm
Free throws


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Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 21, 2018, 02:57:03 pm
im trying to think of a conference game that we didnt deserve to lose...
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Moveitfred on January 21, 2018, 03:01:14 pm
Yikes. How many dreadful events and performances can a team string together and still end up one bucket away from winning, but then cannot help themselves but to pile on more dread to make sure they never get that final shot off....
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Moveitfred on January 21, 2018, 03:06:06 pm
Hey, I'll add this:

If by March SBU can do even mildly better at only half the things they're doing poorly right now, that might get to the championship game at UVM and then you never know what might happen on that one morning.
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Seawolf97 on January 21, 2018, 03:10:39 pm
Air balls,  terrible on  the foul line , fouls and just sloppy play .   Hopefully they get better next year  this years team does not deserve to go anywhere they just stink up the gym . Congrats to Petras he had a career game !
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: guest282 on January 21, 2018, 04:01:34 pm
SB really needs to abandon the alley-oop to Saintel.
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 21, 2018, 05:47:24 pm
im starting to think that if no bigs are going to play with their back to the basket, then leave petras in for 35min, he'll do it.
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Hammertime on January 21, 2018, 06:47:09 pm
im starting to think that if no bigs are going to play with their back to the basket, then leave petras in for 35min, he'll do it.

Petras is our only big!
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Hammertime on January 21, 2018, 07:04:58 pm
I called it in the beginning of the season. SB will finish at or very close to the bottom of the conference this year. I standing by by prediction
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: guest282 on January 21, 2018, 07:58:30 pm
I haven't been drinking but I think Boals should move Cornish to the 2 and start Macenzie at point. Cornish seems more of a driver/scorer than distributor.

1-Macenzie
2- Cornish
3- Yeboah
4- Saintel
5- Petras

Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Moveitfred on January 21, 2018, 08:26:46 pm
I called it in the beginning of the season. SB will finish at or very close to the bottom of the conference this year. I standing by by prediction

Only thing working against your prediction, Hammer, is that this is still the AE, and right now it continues to look like a pretty big tangle of teams from 2-6 and three truly horrible teams at the bottom (yes, that SBU squeaked by in two cases so far). UA seems to be trending up, but (despite SBU's loss today) I don't see much separation among the other "contenders."

SBU loses the next one to UML, however, and you'll have me in your camp...
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 21, 2018, 09:20:51 pm
I called it in the beginning of the season. SB will finish at or very close to the bottom of the conference this year. I standing by by prediction

Only thing working against your prediction, Hammer, is that this is still the AE, and right now it continues to look like a pretty big tangle of teams from 2-6 and three truly horrible teams at the bottom (yes, that SBU squeaked by in two cases so far). UA seems to be trending up, but (despite SBU's loss today) I don't see much separation among the other "contenders."

SBU loses the next one to UML, however, and you'll have me in your camp...

While anything could happen come March, I'm inclined to agree with Hammertime. This is a lost season for SBU basketball. In years past, we'd beat the teams at the bottom and at least compete with the top teams in the AE, usually Albany or Vermont. This year we look lost against everyone. I'm not hopeful. Especially since it's fairly likely we don't get a home game in the AE tournament at all.
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: OldSeawolf on January 21, 2018, 10:28:12 pm
Missed the game today, but were we really 10-24 from the FT line, in a 2-pt loss?  Honestly, I think I could do that lefty and I’m right-handed. Inexcusable at this level.
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Wolfie_MD on January 21, 2018, 11:18:56 pm
Didn't catch the game fortunately- this team is not very talented. Boals needs to tweak the rotation because the current formula isn't working. Sekunda played 31 minutes and this was his stat line: 2 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assists on 0/2 shooting. He's not that good of a defensive player to justify 31 minutes of playing time. He should be taking way more shots than that.

The FT shooting at the end of the game looked awful. Bottom line this team can't win when Yeboah has an off night and that's a big deal. This UNH team is better than their record indicates but this type of performance is disappointing.

There is a ton of parity in the conference fortunately so they will probably finish near .500. This was basically the team we all expected last year to show up but the leadership of Nyama and Woodhouse prevented us from playing like this.
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 22, 2018, 09:06:34 am
yes, we were that bad at the stripe.  i think UNH is a good rebound team but they didnt even beat us there by much.    we just shot poorly.  we usually do.

also we didnt take care of the ball.  UNH gave us a few opportunities at the end to win it, and we squandered all of them.

at this point, i hope im wrong, but id say first round and out.  no post season.

look at UA and Vermont, they just blew up two conference teams by 30.  why think otherwise?
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Checkmate on January 22, 2018, 10:48:49 am
Every opportunity to snatch that game, and we did everything we could to lose it. The charging call on Cornish was borderline, but a turnover on the baseline, another turnover on an entry pass to Yeboah, bricked free throws left and right ... just a shame because we did a good job shutting down Leissner and pulling ahead in the second half.

It should be noted that our starting "center" has 13 rebounds in six conference games, and his classmate whose calling card is his three-point marksmanship is averaging just 4 points a night in that span too. Not good.

Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 22, 2018, 11:03:37 am
i agree.  is it that hard to 1) get bigs into the AE and 2) have them play the position they were brought in for?

put warney aside because he is clearly exceptional.  when was the last big we had that played his position?  mcallister?

i just dont get it but then again im not a coach.  it's like we have GGGGF instead of 12345.
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 22, 2018, 11:04:48 am
oh also i throw in my usual- we missed 14 longballs (low for us!).  think if we hit just ONE of those from a higher % shot, we'd have tied the game???
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Checkmate on January 22, 2018, 11:43:10 am
i agree.  is it that hard to 1) get bigs into the AE and 2) have them play the position they were brought in for?

put warney aside because he is clearly exceptional.  when was the last big we had that played his position?  mcallister?

i just dont get it but then again im not a coach.  it's like we have GGGGF instead of 12345.

I expect our center to be 6-8 pretty much. Any big with any ability isn't going to seek a position in the AE. But in this league, 6-8 is fine. Dallis Joyner – the perfect AE big. It's just that you'd hope to get more production and consistency out of your upperclassmen at this point, and with Ty giving us very little inside anymore, that leaves a gaping hole offensively, and there's no rim protection defensively either. Chef is not due for 30 minutes a night, but I'd like to see him get 12-15.
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: sbufan on January 22, 2018, 11:53:02 am
I think the team is talented, but the basketball iq and team chemistry just isn't there. I still think there's a chance that things will click for the team, and they'll be dangerous in the conference tournament.
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 22, 2018, 12:03:35 pm
agreed on both of the above.  the time has passed for "figuring out the lineup".  its conference time.

if our big wont play in the paint, then seat him.  id rather have ochefu or even petras in there and give us some presence in the paint, on both sides of the ball.  otherwise, VT/UA/NH are going to easily beat us by packing it in and letting us miss threes for 40min.
Title: Re: Game 20: at New Hampshire 1/21
Post by: OldSeawolf on January 22, 2018, 02:51:03 pm
I agree with the above.  Overall, more talent than last year, but the chemistry has been really poor most of the season.  Granted we're missing the glue from last year (Woodhouse), but the merry-go-round of lineups has been very disconcerting to this team IMO, and certain players who have been named already, have not stepped up and shown the requisite leadership.  Anything can happen come tournament week, if there is a strong wind blowing, but right now they are playing like a one-and-done team.  I think Coach has to make some serious lineup decisions (and quickly) if he wants to salvage this year.  Playing 11 or 12 guys is surely not the answer.