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Title: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Checkmate on January 11, 2018, 02:26:56 pm
VERMONT
Record:
12-5 (2-0 America East)
Last Game: W, 91-78, at Dartmouth 1/10
Last 10: 6-4
Last Meeting: Vermont 66-51 on 2/25/17; Roland Nyama team-high 14; UVM finishes AE at 16-0
CM Unofficial Line: Vermont -11.5
KenPom RPI: Stony Brook 213, Vermont 70
KenPom Prediction: Vermont 78, Stony Brook 65
Listen/Watch:
TV: http://www.espn.com/watch/
Vermont radio: http://www.1013espn.com/
Stony Brook radio: http://www.943theshark.com/listenlive.aspx
Notables:
6-2/180 sr G Trae Bell-Haynes 12.5 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.3 spg, .493 FG%
6-3/190 rjr G Ernie Duncan 12.2 ppg, .424 3-pt FG%
6-8/215 sr F Payton Henson 11.9 ppg, 5.8 rpg, .395 3-pt FG%
6-8/220 sr F Drew Urquhart 8.4 ppg, 3.6 rpg, .614 FG%
6-6/190 rso G Everett Duncan 6.1 ppg, 3.4 rpg, .448 3-pt FG%

Vermont has now gone four games without last year's leading scorer, Anthony Lamb, but his absence hasn't derailed them at all. UVM has won all four, including three by double digits. The lone exception was a nice win at Harvard.

They've filled in the void with a mix of Urquhart and Nate Rohrer. It's crazy how OLD this team is – seniors, redshirt this, redshirt that. They've all played a lot of basketball over their time, including into the postseason each of the last number of years. A lot of teams would have been steamrolled by an injury to a guy like Lamb, but it was next man up for UVM. Of course, Bell-Haynes is the most important piece to the puzzle. He's the reigning conference POY, and is the odds-on favorite to repeat I would think. He's had a heck of a career.

While this year's hallmark wins really don't move the needle too well – neutral floor against Northern Kentucky (68) and Bradley (118) – people will probably always look back at their season-opening 73-69 loss at Kentucky as a reason to believe in UVM. They trailed by as many as 14 in the second half, but slowly reeled UK back in, chopping the deficit to three with two minutes left. It would have been an enormous win, but they nevertheless showed they can play with the big fellas.

But can they do it in the tournament? I think we all expect Vermont to cut down the nets in March, and they'd be looking at a 5/12 or 4/13 game. Last year, UVM earned a 13 and lost to fourth-seeded Purdue in the first round, 80-70. I highly doubt any team wants to see their name pop up opposite theirs on Selection Sunday due to their experience and guard play. And because they can reeeeeally shoot it. UVM ranks 17th in the country in three-point FG% (.410) and 28th in overall FG% (.490) – geez, Virginia Tech shoots it better than 52%! Back on topic ... it would be a lot easier with Lamb, but couldn't you see UVM in the Sweet 16? Knock off some fledgling 5 and 4 seeds?

You wonder what happens to Becker if he keeps posting win after win after win. He's 151-74 at UVM, including 80-18 in conference. I don't see anyone knocking them off this year. GW (Becker's alma mater) is off to a dismal start in Atlantic 10 play, but I doubt they'd give up on Maurice Joseph after two years unless it completely unraveled. Could UConn go in another direction? I think Jim Christian at BC has bought a little time for himself. There will be plenty of openings nationwide, but I was just looking at the region first. Who knows what Becker's intentions are.
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 11, 2018, 02:38:41 pm
prediction: rebounds 40-22 VT
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 11, 2018, 03:30:58 pm
Watch us win this one somehow because reasons  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Ballhard000 on January 11, 2018, 05:14:42 pm
Seawolves will pull this one out. Incredible report right here. Great stuff
Title: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Checkmate on January 11, 2018, 09:05:23 pm
Seawolves will pull this one out. Incredible report right here. Great stuff

Now I know you’ve lost your mind! 🤣

Thanks for the kudos.


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Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Hammertime on January 12, 2018, 06:23:52 am
My own betting line. SB+15
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Seawolf97 on January 12, 2018, 11:38:05 am
Vermont at home and we go down by 15 points.  I don't see a win this Saturday even with Lamb on the sidelines. 
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Checkmate on January 12, 2018, 11:49:10 am
"Significant sleet and snow accumulations expected." Game on per the UVM Twitter feed however.
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 13, 2018, 01:52:09 pm
the danes are up 30 at maine, and there's quite a few min left.
Title: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Checkmate on January 13, 2018, 02:07:59 pm
the danes are up 30 at maine, and there's quite a few min left.

Runaway road wins for them and UMBC. Now it’s our turn!


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Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 13, 2018, 02:13:54 pm
nice start for our forwards.  ive noticed the last few games saintel is driving harder to the hoop.  good to have an initiator/creator. 

characteristic VT with a full press on the second possession.  we're giving haynes space. 
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Hammertime on January 13, 2018, 02:29:04 pm
Here comes the total collapse of this team. Silly mistakes and turnovers
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 13, 2018, 02:34:12 pm
agreed.  travels, double dribble, and throwing passes away.

we shot lights out for the first 10min, built a 17-11 lead.  how?  by penetrating, passing, and jumpshots (remember those?).  then we quickly found ourselves down 26-22 on boneheaded mistakes and missed threes.  also fouls are like 10-3 in favor of the cats.
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Hammertime on January 13, 2018, 02:40:24 pm
Regardless of today's outcome. I said a couple of months ago this team finishes towards the bottom of this conference. I stick with my prediction..
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: OldSeawolf on January 13, 2018, 02:47:42 pm
The abysmal FT shooting of this team drives me crazy. Very hard to win big games on the road without hitting the free ones.
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 13, 2018, 02:51:16 pm
ouch, down 10 at half, and the cats dunk with a fraction of a second left for the momentum.

before that, vt went on a 20-6 run while we missed six long balls.
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Hammertime on January 13, 2018, 02:53:42 pm
The abysmal FT shooting of this team drives me crazy. Very hard to win big games on the road without hitting the free ones.
And the lack of a low post guy aggravates me
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: OldSeawolf on January 13, 2018, 02:55:15 pm
Also, I think coach is playing too many guys. Needs to go with 8 or 9. Too many random lineups doesn’t facilitate having this team play well together, IMO.
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Hammertime on January 13, 2018, 03:03:44 pm
Also, I think coach is playing too many guys. Needs to go with 8 or 9. Too many random lineups doesn’t facilitate having this team play well together, IMO.

He is still trying to find his starting and bench line up.. I am not sure what to make of this team.. Is it the lack of quality play makers or is this coaching. either way. This team is so unpredictable and in disarray
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: OldSeawolf on January 13, 2018, 03:07:19 pm
Yeah, not playing cohesive. Could easily be 0-4 after today. 1st 2 conf wins very lucky. I really think that this team has loads more talent than last year’s team, but just not playing well together. Of course, we’re missing Woodhouse who was last year’s glue.
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Checkmate on January 13, 2018, 03:11:53 pm
I know I’ve said it a thousand times but ... there goes Akwasi with his fourth foul at the 17 minute mark of the second half.


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Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 13, 2018, 03:24:14 pm
we pulled back within 7.  then sturdy airballed a 3 that went the other way for a triple.  boals call TO.
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: OldSeawolf on January 13, 2018, 03:29:41 pm
The Sturdy 3-Ball experiment must stop. He needs to get back to his post game, which he was effective with, the 1st half of last season.
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Hammertime on January 13, 2018, 03:30:11 pm
we pulled back within 7.  then sturdy airballed a 3 that went the other way for a triple.  boals call TO.
Lax been saying it all a long. Sturdivant needs to stop shooting the 3 ball.  He just create more turnovers by doing that..
I noticed the last 2 years. Sturdivant starts off hot them goes totally cold in the 2nd  half of the season..
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 13, 2018, 03:59:15 pm
really saw a lot of good from saintel today.  he's talented with the ball in his hands and driving to the hoop. 
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Hammertime on January 13, 2018, 04:02:02 pm
really saw a lot of good from saintel today.  he's talented with the ball in his hands and driving to the hoop.

That is about all the good i saw today.. If Yeboah constantly gets himself into foul trouble, this team is finished.. I really thought Ochefu was a better player. I guess not. Just another project and a dream. Like Petris..
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Seawolf97 on January 13, 2018, 04:21:23 pm
Not surprised  by Vermont well balanced and well coached . A very solid  team as our guys continue to  struggle . I think we win Thursday with Binghamton coming here.
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Checkmate on January 13, 2018, 05:14:11 pm
Twenty point game if Vermont hits its free throws. TBH threw up brick after brick.

For me, if Sekunda is going to lead the team in minutes, he’s gotta get more than four shots up. 4 points, 0 rebounds, 1 assist, 0 steals, 0 blocks. That is a lot of running around with very little production.

Free throws 32 to 8 in Vermont’s favor.


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Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: Hammertime on January 13, 2018, 06:43:06 pm
Twenty point game if Vermont hits its free throws. TBH threw up brick after brick.

For me, if Sekunda is going to lead the team in minutes, he’s gotta get more than four shots up. 4 points, 0 rebounds, 1 assist, 0 steals, 0 blocks. That is a lot of running around with very little production.

Free throws 32 to 8 in Vermont’s favor.


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" Free throws 32-8 in Vermont favor"..............  Why is that?? Because our guys are not driving to the basket.. I would like to know why!. I am beginning to think coach Boals is not drawing up the plays to do so.. I just dont know yet.....
Title: Re: Game 18: at Vermont 1/13
Post by: avmsbu on January 15, 2018, 11:53:04 am
really saw a lot of good from saintel today.  he's talented with the ball in his hands and driving to the hoop.

That is about all the good i saw today.. If Yeboah constantly gets himself into foul trouble, this team is finished.. I really thought Ochefu was a better player. I guess not. Just another project and a dream. Like Petris..

Ochefu moves much better than Petras, although we have not seen much evidence of whether he has a post game. At a certain point I wouldn't mind seeing the underclassmen get more minutes, including Macenzie and Long.

This may not go over well but I am not sure (unless there are recruiting benefits) there is much value in playing over your head in pre-conference play. They are not realistic games that enable you to run normal half-court sets (which is what it looks like SB needs work on), or even defend good half-court offenses (considering the ease in which Albany and Vermont were able to consistently get good looks.)