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Athletics => SBU Men's Basketball => Topic started by: Checkmate on January 01, 2018, 02:37:39 pm
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MAINE
Record: 3-12
Last Game: L, 83-71, at Columbia 12/30
Last 10: 3-7
Last Meeting: Stony Brook 67-66 on 2/12/17; Nyama career-high 26 points, including tie-breaking FT with 0.5 seconds left
KenPom RPI: Stony Brook 193, Maine 335
KenPom Prediction: Stony Brook 77, Maine 62
Listen/Watch:
TV: http://www.espn.com/watch/?gameId=400991534&league=NCAAB
Maine radio: https://tunein.com/radio/WGUY-1230-s132177/
Stony Brook radio: http://www.943theshark.com/listenlive.aspx
Notables:
5-11/185 sr G Aaron Calixte 14.8 ppg, 3.0 rpg, .391 3-pt FG%
6-6/210 sr F Ilker Er 9.0 ppg, 5.0 rpg
6-7/220 so F Andrew Fleming 8.5 ppg, 5.3 rpg
6-6/180 fr G Isaiah White 8.3 ppg, .391 3-pt FG%
6-5/180 fr G Vernon Lowndes Jr. 7.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, .525 FG%
Square one. Let's start building some momentum right here and now.
Maine's just what we needed – an ideal matchup to start conference play on a positive note. I know, Norfolk State was supposed to be a pushover, but it should be crystal clear to our guys that we can beat and lose to just about anybody.
Maine is perpetually a mess, and little looks different at this point. Two of their three wins came against local Division III opponents, and KenPom projects them to go 0-16 in conference. Wes Myers, their best player a year ago who had 22 against us in our last meeting, transferred to South Carolina in the offseason. He was one of six players, including THREE STARTERS, to leave the program – point guard Ryan Bernstein (Kent State) and Austin Howard (Charleston) being the others.
More on the transfer trend that has plagued Maine: http://bangordailynews.com/2017/05/14/sports/college/this-is-the-reality-now-umaine-basketball-teams-at-epicenter-of-transfer-trend/
So it's not surprising that the Black Bears have been pretty hopeless this winter. In their last three, they were down 19 at the half against Columbia only to crawl back within 12, down 34 at one point at UMass before losing by 11, and a 27-point loss at Central Connecticut State.
But who here is ready to take anybody lightly???
There are still some familiar faces from years past. Calixte and Er are going to fire away from three, and Fleming is a solid post option who was named to the AE All-Rookie team last year. They're likely to be without transfer guard Trae Bryant, who started the first seven games but has missed the last eight with an undisclosed injury.
Let's just cut the crap and take care of business.
Happy new year, all!
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in other news... cant argue with albany so far, look how well they are doing at this point: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/399/albany-great-danes
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in other news... cant argue with albany so far, look how well they are doing at this point: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/399/albany-great-danes
Coach Brown is an amazing coach. He is a great recruiter and can find athletes who can control the paint and rebound.. If coach Boals cant find players like that in the near future, his time at SB will be short lived.. Shawn Heilbron will not tolerate a mediocre basketball team in this university.. Same for all the other sports!!
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in other news... cant argue with albany so far, look how well they are doing at this point: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/399/albany-great-danes
Certainly one of the better AE teams, but their schedule hasn't exactly been a murderer's row. Three RPI top 200 wins, with the most quality win being a two-point home win over Iona (129) in their opener.
I like the trio of Cremo, Nichols and Charles though; they could give Vermont some trouble atop the conference.
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in other news... cant argue with albany so far, look how well they are doing at this point: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/399/albany-great-danes
Certainly one of the better AE teams, but their schedule hasn't exactly been a murderer's row. Three RPI top 200 wins, with the most quality win being a two-point home win over Iona (129) in their opener.
I like the trio of Cremo, Nichols and Charles though; they could give Vermont some trouble atop the conference.
Vermonts Lamb is out for the season with a fracture in his foot.. This could be a game changer for V..
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in other news... cant argue with albany so far, look how well they are doing at this point: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/399/albany-great-danes
Certainly one of the better AE teams, but their schedule hasn't exactly been a murderer's row. Three RPI top 200 wins, with the most quality win being a two-point home win over Iona (129) in their opener.
I like the trio of Cremo, Nichols and Charles though; they could give Vermont some trouble atop the conference.
Vermonts Lamb is out for the season with a fracture in his foot.. This could be a game changer for V..
Wow. That’s a devastating blow for UVM. I’m curious how they divvy up his minutes.
I don’t care what we all saw on Saturday. The conference is back up for grabs.
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Here's hoping "Good SBU" comes out tonight.
As tough as that Lamb injury is for UVM, they are really solid all around and will no doubt adjust. My gut says only thing that changes for them (if Lamb doesn't come back late) is a real chance at something like a 12 seed and shot at a legit first-round NCAA win. I'd still keep them as AE favorite with UA right there and the rest of us chasing.
But, spring training is over and we all have hope starting tonight. I'm anxious to see how Garcia plays against Maine as he has the look of being a potential significant added weapon for SBU at just the right time.
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Garcia c an be a difference maker for us . Hopefully he gains more confidence with each game now.
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i keep going back to the earlier stated point- do we need more presence in the paint these days? no, we dont have warney. but we do have some size and can attempt to do this by committee. get petras in there, maybe saintel, ochefu, sturdy, yeboah. let's start grabbing offensive boards, controlling the clock, and taking higher percentage shots.
the alternative is losing to a 2-12 team.
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Unofficial Checkmate line: Stony Brook -6.5
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i keep going back to the earlier stated point- do we need more presence in the paint these days? no, we dont have warney. but we do have some size and can attempt to do this by committee. get petras in there, maybe saintel, ochefu, sturdy, yeboah. let's start grabbing offensive boards, controlling the clock, and taking higher percentage shots.
the alternative is losing to a 2-12 team.
I've always been a fan of that general notion of establishing your down-low muscle presence first in a game to set up your 3-pt shots, which was surprisingly not done the last game. I agree that those players mentioned above, plus those wide shoulders of Garcia, can do a better job of establishing an inside game, and I hope we see that tonight. I know none of us has any idea what goes on during the week, but I'm really surprised that Ochefu's limited minutes have dwindled to nothing. Have to assume the intent was for him to not sit this year, and I hope he has whatever it takes to get minutes back and have some impact in AE play.
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yes, yes, and yes.
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yes, yes, and yes.
I recall, too, how my brain exploded for three years over the Coley/Jackson bombs instead of feeding the ball to Warney down low, but I guess that's water under the bridge. The 3-ball is a vile temptress, for sure....
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The extent of change I want to see in this regard is to have Ty back on the block. I'm not terribly confident in him there either, but at least he poses a threat and it beats him firing away from three. Sekunda's a spot-up guy, UC more or less is too, and I'm fine with the 2s/3s split with everybody else. Mac's threes are painfully off.
I think Akwasi and Garcia doing work inside and mid-range could be devastating for the AE. Such a promising duo for at least the next year and a half.
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We’re up double digits.
And so is Hartford in Albany.
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Yikes. This is abysmal. Gotta escape with a W somehow.
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it looks like its final 71-70 SB on a last minute three from UC.
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it looks like its final 71-70 SB on a last minute three from UC.
From Steph Curry range.
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Pretty much the worst win of all time. But a win nevertheless.
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We were up by 20 when I checked the score earlier. What the hell happened? How do we get beat like that in the second half.
Also, LOLbany loses to Hartford. The AE is just nuts sometimes.
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i can answer that. but you all know what the response is.
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SBU looked pretty much like the best team in the AE for about 20 mins tonight, but then there's the other 20 mins...
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They almost faded away into the sunset again big time . Struggling to hold a 20 point lead as we shot blanks and Maine sank 3s . Add in numerous 2nd half turnovers but we held on in regulation by 1 point. Ugly night all around .
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They almost faded away into the sunset again big time . Struggling to hold a 20 point lead as we shot blanks and Maine sank 3s . Add in numerous 2nd half turnovers but we held on in regulation by 1 point. Ugly night all around .
Hold on to your shorts, fans!!. Hartford could be the fly in the ointment. With Lamb out for Vermont and Albany not showing up to play, this conference is up for grabs..
I said it at the beginning of the season. SB is lucky to finish .500 this year and possibly last in the conference, or close to it..
We have absolutely no inside presence, zero, zilch..That is because we have no "go to guy" or big who can man handle that paint.. I dont want to hear Petras should be that guy. He's not.. Petras was being overpowered and out rebounded by Maine 6' tall guards last night, again... We suck at shooting the three ball and totally disastrous at the foul line, outside of Yeboah nobody else can make foul shots on a consistent basis..
This team looked lost last night and there was no leadership on the floor or bench.
I hope Boals can take control of this team. After this year, the majority of the players are all his. No more living in the shadows of Pikiel..
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In the postgame, Boals cited how they shot too many threes against Norfolk State but kinda sorta justified the 28 threes this time. If I counted correctly, we were up 56-36 with 12 minutes left and went 0 for 7 from three until UC’s make. We had eight turnovers in that stretch, which I’m more alarmed by.
Most notably, Cornish really struggled - 2 points, 0 assists, 5 turnovers and 4 fouls in just 16 minutes. He wasn’t even on the floor at the end; instead, Boals went with Iroegbu to run the point, and he did that for a lot of the game with Cornish in foul trouble. Almonacy got back in there finally, and Mac was a DNP-CD for the first time. As a result, j thought the offense lacked flow in the second half, which contributed to the meltdown along with Maine making seemingly shot after shot late.
For those who didn’t see the game, we were up 68-66 and Calixte buried a long three right as the whistle blew underneath. Initially they waved off the basket, but then gave it to him AND put Fleming on the line for a foul on Akwasi away from the ball. It was a crazy sequence. The whole crowd was like “we’re seriously going to cough this up?” Or at least I was. Anyway, Fleming missed the second of two, and UC, on a broken play (same play as the Rutgers game; Maine sniffed it out) buried the game-winner.
The freshmen have taken a back seat. Three DNPs and only 11 minutes from Olaniyi.
If Sekunda is going to be out there for 26 minutes, he needs more than four shots. That’s what he does best. A nice drive and floater by him to put us ahead 68-66.
Cheerleaders and dance team had great halftime routines.
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I thought during the "Good SBU" stretches they did a nice job of...I guess I'll use the word "establishing" an inside presence first before taking outside shots. As COB noted, I do think we have a platoon of players who can be effective inside (for the AE), Yeboah being the primary force (and I wish Sturdy would plant inside rather than roaming around the 3, which makes me nervous every time he touches the ball). SBU did well the first ten minutes or so running a set offense while appearing to look/throw inside first before kicking out for some open shots.
From where I sit, leadership appears to be lacking. Boals seems to still be experimenting with combinations on the floor, and when a game shifts/goes south as they always will SBU players seem like they look to each other for someone to do something. They toss up 3's hoping a couple will stop the bleeding and they over-rotate on defense leaving guys open for shots. I don't know...I guess this is still a "young" team despite the first-year players not playing much recently? It seems natural that a ball handler should take on a leadership role. We had a pretty long run of Dougher/Coley/Jackson/Tre/Woodhouse players who, better or worse, handled game management. This SBU team has a lot of talented, athletic guards but I don't see anyone taking a leadership role, yet. (note Calixte played all 40 mins for Maine, a steady, aggressive leader all game).
Four obvious candidates in Cornish, UC, Almonacy, Mac. Playing time among this group has fluctuated wildly this season, and I don't know if a platoon of these guys is going to cut it in terms of making a serious run in March. I think someone has to develop or step up as *the* guy to lead the team.
What a wacky ending to this game and a head-scratching loss by UA on the first night (speaking of shooting, Hartford went 50% from the field including 3's and 100% from the foul line). I couldn't keep track of what happened with that potential 5-point play by Maine. I thought the 3-pt shot went up after the whistle, but I guess he was in the process of shooting? I have no idea what happened with the foul call on the opposite side of the shot. Crazy. And then was Calixte tripped at the end or did he just fall down? That 2.5 seconds felt like it lasted two minutes with him weaving through SBU players at breakneck speed.
Based on last night it feels now that even without Lamb UVM will go undefeated in AE, but no doubt things will swing wildly in some other direction in a week. Maybe everyone goes 8-8 this year?
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This game can be analyzed ad nauseum but the fact is that SB has basically lost twice in a row (Maine might as well have been a loss), and at home, to two teams in the bottom 20 of 350 DI teams. I never thought this team would be playing at the cellar level again at this point in the program.
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They toss up 3's hoping a couple will stop the bleeding and they over-rotate on defense leaving guys open for shots.
while i agree with fred- i'll go one further- they toss up threes even when leading. big and late. or at any time really.
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This game can be analyzed ad nauseum but the fact is that SB has basically lost twice in a row (Maine might as well have been a loss), and at home, to two teams in the bottom 20 of 350 DI teams. I never thought this team would be playing at the cellar level again at this point in the program.
Stony Brook is in a very weak conference, in which they’ll have a chance to win/lose every night. My prediction is that they can finish anywhere from second to sixth.
By the way, last night our Conference ROY candidate played 0 seconds.
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They almost faded away into the sunset again big time . Struggling to hold a 20 point lead as we shot blanks and Maine sank 3s . Add in numerous 2nd half turnovers but we held on in regulation by 1 point. Ugly night all around .
Hold on to your shorts, fans!!. Hartford could be the fly in the ointment. With Lamb out for Vermont and Albany not showing up to play, this conference is up for grabs..
I said it at the beginning of the season. SB is lucky to finish .500 this year and possibly last in the conference, or close to it..
We have absolutely no inside presence, zero, zilch..That is because we have no "go to guy" or big who can man handle that paint.. I dont want to hear Petras should be that guy. He's not.. Petras was being overpowered and out rebounded by Maine 6' tall guards last night, again... We suck at shooting the three ball and totally disastrous at the foul line, outside of Yeboah nobody else can make foul shots on a consistent basis..
This team looked lost last night and there was no leadership on the floor or bench.
I hope Boals can take control of this team. After this year, the majority of the players are all his. No more living in the shadows of Pikiel..
No more talk on Petras, who is a back-up senior. He plays 10-14 minutes a game and grabs a couple of rebounds and scores a couple of buckets. The ones you should be talking about by name are on the starting frontline in Sturdivant (senior clown) and Saintel (too passive), who each average under 5 rebounds a game.
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I thought during the "Good SBU" stretches they did a nice job of...I guess I'll use the word "establishing" an inside presence first before taking outside shots. As COB noted, I do think we have a platoon of players who can be effective inside (for the AE), Yeboah being the primary force (and I wish Sturdy would plant inside rather than roaming around the 3, which makes me nervous every time he touches the ball). SBU did well the first ten minutes or so running a set offense while appearing to look/throw inside first before kicking out for some open shots.
From where I sit, leadership appears to be lacking. Boals seems to still be experimenting with combinations on the floor, and when a game shifts/goes south as they always will SBU players seem like they look to each other for someone to do something. They toss up 3's hoping a couple will stop the bleeding and they over-rotate on defense leaving guys open for shots. I don't know...I guess this is still a "young" team despite the first-year players not playing much recently? It seems natural that a ball handler should take on a leadership role. We had a pretty long run of Dougher/Coley/Jackson/Tre/Woodhouse players who, better or worse, handled game management. This SBU team has a lot of talented, athletic guards but I don't see anyone taking a leadership role, yet. (note Calixte played all 40 mins for Maine, a steady, aggressive leader all game).
Four obvious candidates in Cornish, UC, Almonacy, Mac. Playing time among this group has fluctuated wildly this season, and I don't know if a platoon of these guys is going to cut it in terms of making a serious run in March. I think someone has to develop or step up as *the* guy to lead the team.
What a wacky ending to this game and a head-scratching loss by UA on the first night (speaking of shooting, Hartford went 50% from the field including 3's and 100% from the foul line). I couldn't keep track of what happened with that potential 5-point play by Maine. I thought the 3-pt shot went up after the whistle, but I guess he was in the process of shooting? I have no idea what happened with the foul call on the opposite side of the shot. Crazy. And then was Calixte tripped at the end or did he just fall down? That 2.5 seconds felt like it lasted two minutes with him weaving through SBU players at breakneck speed.
Based on last night it feels now that even without Lamb UVM will go undefeated in AE, but no doubt things will swing wildly in some other direction in a week. Maybe everyone goes 8-8 this year?
I thought the same thing about Calixte's mad dash at the end – how has the buzzer not sounded?!?!? – but learned afterward that they'd bumped the clock up to 4.2 seconds. There wasn't a lot of contact, but there was enough to make you worry about two free throws at the end to beat us. Calixte's a nice player; we don't have anybody who takes charge like that.
The minutes and substitution patterns have been near impossible to predict. If you take out Yeboah, there really isn't a huge gap in ability from 2 through 8 or 10, but still, it feels like it's a different five on the floor down the stretch of every game. It's almost like a closer-by-committee situation, which always make me uncomfortable.
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Small consolation but UNH lost last night at UMBC . I kind of see our team right now as group of guys showing to play in the gym with no real leadership and no real hussle. I am concerned about our new guys with the exception of Cornish and maybe Olaniy there isn't much motivation .