Post by: Checkmate on November 12, 2017, 08:57:47 pm
Post by: Seawolf97 on November 12, 2017, 10:03:43 pm
Post by: ibosbu on November 13, 2017, 10:22:29 am
I initially thought Big East is going to suffer and struggle after breaking off. But the basketball only 10 small private schools have surprised me so far with sending half their teams to the dance. Nova even won a championship!
Post by: Checkmate on November 13, 2017, 12:19:19 pm
UVM is set up so well with Lamb as the centerpiece the next three years.
Post by: ibosbu on November 13, 2017, 12:26:53 pm
I would also keep an eye on Becker. He was a hot candidate after 19-0 AE record. If he takes UVM to NCAA tourney again, my money is on him moving on to a higher profile job. And taking some of their talents with him perhaps.
Post by: Checkmate on November 14, 2017, 12:15:27 pm
I wonder, if Lamb has a monster year, whether he will stay at Vermont for all 4 years. I won't be surprised if he transfers out to a high major.
I would also keep an eye on Becker. He was a hot candidate after 19-0 AE record. If he takes UVM to NCAA tourney again, my money is on him moving on to a higher profile job. And taking some of their talents with him perhaps.
Definitely possible. I'm glad that Warney never got lured away from here. Maine got ravaged by these kind of transfers a couple years ago and now Little (Colorado State) and Vann (VCU) left for bigger programs (Little, a Wyandanch kid, has since landed at UT Martin). Pikiell lost Nigel Johnson to UVa.
In other news, I think the writer is pretty green, but nevertheless, this was published on a site run by SI.
https://fansided.com/2017/11/13/5-things-learned-college-basketballs-opening-weekend/
"What is the ceiling for Kentucky? Even with all these issues, still the Final Four.
Strangely, that just so happens to be the same ceiling for Vermont."
Imagine that? An AE team in the Final Four?? Highly doubt it. Wishful thinking.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 14, 2017, 01:29:08 pm
I wonder, if Lamb has a monster year, whether he will stay at Vermont for all 4 years. I won't be surprised if he transfers out to a high major.
I would also keep an eye on Becker. He was a hot candidate after 19-0 AE record. If he takes UVM to NCAA tourney again, my money is on him moving on to a higher profile job. And taking some of their talents with him perhaps.
Definitely possible. I'm glad that Warney never got lured away from here. Maine got ravaged by these kind of transfers a couple years ago and now Little (Colorado State) and Vann (VCU) left for bigger programs (Little, a Wyandanch kid, has since landed at UT Martin). Pikiell lost Nigel Johnson to UVa.
In other news, I think the writer is pretty green, but nevertheless, this was published on a site run by SI.
https://fansided.com/2017/11/13/5-things-learned-college-basketballs-opening-weekend/
"What is the ceiling for Kentucky? Even with all these issues, still the Final Four.
Strangely, that just so happens to be the same ceiling for Vermont."
Imagine that? An AE team in the Final Four?? Highly doubt it. Wishful thinking.
I'd love it if they could make it. It'd be huge for the conference even if it wasn't us. Maybe UVM can get an at large bid this year with all the hype while we steal the autobid ;D
Post by: ibosbu on November 14, 2017, 05:18:14 pm
;DI wonder, if Lamb has a monster year, whether he will stay at Vermont for all 4 years. I won't be surprised if he transfers out to a high major.
I would also keep an eye on Becker. He was a hot candidate after 19-0 AE record. If he takes UVM to NCAA tourney again, my money is on him moving on to a higher profile job. And taking some of their talents with him perhaps.
Definitely possible. I'm glad that Warney never got lured away from here. Maine got ravaged by these kind of transfers a couple years ago and now Little (Colorado State) and Vann (VCU) left for bigger programs (Little, a Wyandanch kid, has since landed at UT Martin). Pikiell lost Nigel Johnson to UVa.
In other news, I think the writer is pretty green, but nevertheless, this was published on a site run by SI.
https://fansided.com/2017/11/13/5-things-learned-college-basketballs-opening-weekend/
"What is the ceiling for Kentucky? Even with all these issues, still the Final Four.
Strangely, that just so happens to be the same ceiling for Vermont."
Imagine that? An AE team in the Final Four?? Highly doubt it. Wishful thinking.
I'd love it if they could make it. It'd be huge for the conference even if it wasn't us. Maybe UVM can get an at large bid this year with all the hype while we steal the autobid ;D
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 14, 2017, 11:41:45 pm
Very happy that Ewing finally getting a head coaching job. Will be rooting for his success with the Hoyas. He paid the due and should have gotten a chance at NBA.. so many coaches are getting hired and fired.. he deserved a chance.
I initially thought Big East is going to suffer and struggle after breaking off. But the basketball only 10 small private schools have surprised me so far with sending half their teams to the dance. Nova even won a championship!
Im very loyal to the Big East and go to the BET yearly. I can only hope it continues to excel. The Northeast needs a top tier league. I hope Uconn joins it again... and that someday SBU may find a home there.
Post by: Checkmate on November 15, 2017, 10:17:55 am
http://www.mychamplainvalley.com/sports/duncan-brothers-look-forward-to-playing-together-at-uvm/857638900
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 15, 2017, 11:59:23 am
ANOTHER Duncan on the way to UVM next year. That's three.
http://www.mychamplainvalley.com/sports/duncan-brothers-look-forward-to-playing-together-at-uvm/857638900
Damn that program is going to be loaded (by AE standards).
Post by: ibosbu on November 18, 2017, 10:30:30 am
Post by: Checkmate on November 18, 2017, 11:21:08 am
NBA commissioner Adam Silver is really pushing to change the current Draft eligibility rule.. which would see end of One and Done rule. Players can be drafted straight out of high school and not be forced to go through one year of college. And those who enter college wont be eligible to enter draft for at least two years. I think it still may not the best, but certainly much better than the current ludicrous One and Done rule.
Baseball does three years. Two or three is good for hoops.
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Post by: laxnation on November 19, 2017, 07:00:09 pm
UNH 32
Florida 32
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 20, 2017, 01:40:52 am
At the half:
UNH 32
Florida 33
Vermont playing Kentucky close, UNH playing Florida close, us playing Uconn close and playing Michigan St. close for a half?? It may not earn multiple bids this year, but we should be way better than the low-mid 20's in RPI that we usually are.
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 20, 2017, 07:56:17 am
Its hard for me to understand how a group of mid-size/large State University cannot be a top 15 conference. There should be no reason while the CAA/A10 are so ahead of the AE in RPI every year. Now that UNH has a pulse our league needs to create a long-term strategy
Post by: Checkmate on November 20, 2017, 10:00:33 am
We can only hope the conference improves and maybe we can see upsets of this big matchups in the next few years.
Its hard for me to understand how a group of mid-size/large State University cannot be a top 15 conference. There should be no reason while the CAA/A10 are so ahead of the AE in RPI every year. Now that UNH has a pulse our league needs to create a long-term strategy
Maybe this is just my opinion and maybe it's harsh but ... in most cases, we're talking about programs with little to no tradition, many in terrible gyms and ordinary facilities, frigid weather in the middle of nowhere or in crummy cities, playing in front of sparse crowds, amid a population that couldn't care less about college sports, and in states/regions that aren't rich in basketball talent.
Post by: ibosbu on November 20, 2017, 11:45:59 pm
Post by: Checkmate on December 07, 2017, 03:40:58 pm
https://twitter.com/HofstraMBB/status/938646439898570752
Post by: ibosbu on December 07, 2017, 06:27:57 pm
Geez. Did you see how Hofstra beat Monmouth last night?
https://twitter.com/HofstraMBB/status/938646439898570752
Yeah saw it earlier. Wow
Post by: VA_Seawolf on December 07, 2017, 09:59:45 pm
Geez. Did you see how Hofstra beat Monmouth last night?
https://twitter.com/HofstraMBB/status/938646439898570752
It means Hofstra won a game. Yuck!!
Post by: Checkmate on December 20, 2017, 10:26:33 am
http://njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2017-18/div1/players/alonzocampbellj1lv
Glad to see he's getting some run.
Post by: laxnation on December 28, 2017, 09:01:20 pm
Post by: Checkmate on December 28, 2017, 10:51:51 pm
The reputation of Pikiell takes another major hit with a loss to a very mediocre team in Hartford. I guess the key to winning isn’t clapping your hands over 3,000 times a game?
What a horrible stretch. Any hopes of it being done overnight at Rutgers is out the window. And another brutal night at the line for Pikiell's group – 8 for 19 against us, 12 for 22 against Hartford, both two-point losses.
Hartford might be all right this year. Carroll and Dunne is a good 1-2 punch. Maybe they can get to 8-8 in conference?
Post by: Hammertime on December 29, 2017, 04:49:22 am
The reputation of Pikiell takes another major hit with a loss to a very mediocre team in Hartford. I guess the key to winning isn’t clapping your hands over 3,000 times a game?
Major blow to Rutgers basketball program this year. There's always next season, right??
Post by: Seawolf97 on December 29, 2017, 03:05:02 pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on December 29, 2017, 03:13:39 pm
Post by: laxnation on December 29, 2017, 04:21:04 pm
He knew what he was getting into. Rutgers is a dumpster fire in every major sport. They're in a power conference with power conference money yet look lost many years in many sports. He'll at least make them respectable.We aren’t talking about losses to Big10 teams, but about losses to mediocre teams from a mediocre conference. These losses are inexcusable, especially at home. No pass for Coach Pikiell on these losses. His game day strategy is rearing it’s ugly head.
If it wasn’t for Warney not listening to the coaching in the 2nd half against Vermont and just taking over the game, Pikiell would have 0 NCAA appearances.
The best thing about Pikiell is that he cared about the basketball careers of his players after they graduated from Stony Brook!
Post by: Checkmate on January 06, 2018, 02:20:10 pm
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Post by: guest282 on January 06, 2018, 03:11:31 pm
Post by: Checkmate on January 06, 2018, 03:31:22 pm
Albany is 0-2 and Maine beat Binghamton.
A chance to go two games up on UA already? Pretty good spot to be in tonight.
UA loses despite having a 27-6 edge on free throw attempts. Big day for the UNH bench.
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Post by: Seawolf97 on January 06, 2018, 04:09:28 pm
Post by: Moveitfred on January 06, 2018, 04:11:08 pm
Here's my take at this very early stage: EVERYbody stinks in the AE this year except UVM, and UVM ain't that great either.
Go SBU!
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 07, 2018, 04:43:27 am
It's anyone's game in the AE come tournament time as often seem to be the case at first glance. Keep an eye on UMBC, they're just chugging along doing their thing right now, but will probably be dangerous later.
Post by: ry1nik on January 07, 2018, 08:12:41 am
UA started 0-3 in AE last year.Says it all!
Here's my take at this very early stage: EVERYbody stinks in the AE this year except UVM, and UVM ain't that great either.
Go SBU!
Post by: laxnation on January 07, 2018, 09:25:15 am
Oh LOLbany. 0-2 in league play!!Never concerned with UMBC with their lack of discipline and uncontrolled offense. In the past, their defense has been poor at best, but may have improved this season. Nothing this season or the last several seasons indicate UMBC will be a dangerous this season. Lastly, their best players are seniors, which probably means are horrible record in 2018-19.
It's anyone's game in the AE come tournament time as often seem to be the case at first glance. Keep an eye on UMBC, they're just chugging along doing their thing right now, but will probably be dangerous later.
Post by: Checkmate on January 17, 2018, 04:30:14 pm
https://twitter.com/ESPN_Schick/status/953671983866277888
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 17, 2018, 06:44:28 pm
95% certain it happens.
https://twitter.com/ESPN_Schick/status/953671983866277888
The coach can leave at any point and time with no consequence, so why not the players too? Sure it will suck to lose kids to the bigger schools, but regular students can transfer too, so why not the athletes as well?
Post by: Seawolf97 on January 17, 2018, 07:42:35 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 13, 2018, 10:59:18 pm
Hartford got bludgeoned by San Diego in the CIT, so it looks like the AE’s relative weakness is showing in the postseason. My pick is Virginia by a lot in a couple days.
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Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 14, 2018, 12:49:57 am
Post by: Hammertime on March 14, 2018, 06:59:41 am
Once again this conference gets killed and doesn't even put up a fight. It's just unfortunate because I believe the AE should at least be a CAA level conference just looking at who is in it. Oh well. I think I've changed my tune on us getting out of here. If we're going to go 14-19 or whatever we were this year, better to do it in a stronger league lol. If you're going to be in the weak league, you better win it every year haha.
I have been saying the same thing for years. This conference is a low mid major and consistently ends up at the bottom of the div1 year after year. The CAA is a better, stronger conference to be in for all sports. Some people on this board disagree with me and say it is only a lateral. It's not a lateral and it is a huge move up..
I believe the only way SB, or another team for that matter gets better and stronger is to compete with better teams each and every game. Staying in a conference where the RPI constantly ranks at the bottom of all div1 schools will not find you better athletes to come and play for your school. This is a fact. SB needs to run away from the AE and make that move into the CAA for all sports.. It only makes sense. Yes, SB would have to travel further south to play games, but in the long run you will get better kids who want a good education and better athletes..
Post by: Hammertime on March 14, 2018, 07:02:08 am
Tough way for Vermont’s senior class to go out. I know MTSU is good and that UVM was still shell-shocked by Lyles’ buzzer beater, but that was atrocious. I’ll not miss any of them.
Hartford got bludgeoned by San Diego in the CIT, so it looks like the AE’s relative weakness is showing in the postseason. My pick is Virginia by a lot in a couple days.
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Read my other post, checkmate...
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 16, 2018, 10:50:25 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 16, 2018, 11:01:16 pm
BC is up on #1 virginia 35-24 in the second half...
This is incredible. I can’t see Virginia closing a 16-point gap with their offense. They have looked terrible and UMBC brilliant.
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Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 16, 2018, 11:01:58 pm
BC is up on #1 virginia 35-24 in the second half...
45-29 right now!!
This would not only be the biggest win in AE history, but the biggest win in NCAA tournament history. A 16 seed has NEVER beaten a #1 ever.
Post by: Checkmate on March 16, 2018, 11:41:34 pm
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Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 16, 2018, 11:42:41 pm
http://scores.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=401025813
This could be the turning point for this conference. It definitely will be for UMBC. It would have been greater had it been us, but you can't help but be happy about this. The Retrievers did it!!
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 17, 2018, 12:34:12 am
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 17, 2018, 01:23:35 am
WOOOOW. UMBC owns the college basketball world for the rest of the year
Post by: Hammertime on March 17, 2018, 06:48:41 am
Odom took a program from total despair to the biggest win in tournament history in just a few years. He won’t go unnoticed this offseason, especially after that annihilation.If UMBC beat Kansas state, and they can if they play them the way they played Virginia you can kiss Odom goodbye . What a turn around story with UMBC. New coach. New arena. Wins the AE, beats #1 team in the land!!.. historical..
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Post by: Ballhard000 on March 17, 2018, 06:53:17 am
Post by: Moveitfred on March 17, 2018, 08:08:28 am
UMBC needs to be out looking for a new coach because their current coach will be offered a power 5 job this spring.
Had to wander back here for this one. Wow, the morning after and I still cannot believe what I saw. SHREADED the UVA team in the second half?
Good for them. It was fun watching this team in our little world these last two years. Who would have thought?
I wonder if these young men yet understand the magnitude of what they did? An immortal sports moment. They'll never have to buy a drink in a Baltimore area bar the rest of their lives.
And, yes, the comments here about Odom were the first thing I was thinking after the initial shock wore off. He instantly could be in the enviable position of deciding where he wants to go next, and for "Pikiell +" money.
Crazy thing, too, is if they play like that again they could make a run in that bracket. Here's hoping they do.
PS, does the PAC12 fall from grace and this historic AE win prove to be good timing for SBU to get this big fella you all have been talking about in the other thread?
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 17, 2018, 09:26:01 am
what a year for the AE. this, plus SB wlax getting all the attention, UA mlax getting even more, and even vermont mlax is turning heads. all of these on the national radar is great for the conference.
Post by: ry1nik on March 17, 2018, 09:40:54 am
Post by: Seawolf97 on March 17, 2018, 10:18:33 am
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 17, 2018, 10:30:30 am
balto sun:
u must be cinderella
Post by: Checkmate on March 18, 2018, 11:53:50 am
Post by: ry1nik on March 18, 2018, 12:18:08 pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 18, 2018, 12:46:51 pm
As great as they played on Friday, I just can't see UMBC regaining its focus with the media frenzy surrounding the team the last 48 hours. Meanwhile, it's been business as usual for Kansas State I'd imagine. Hoping that UMBC puts up a fight, but my sense is that K-State covers the 10.5 point spread.
That's why I don't think they win today. They've been receiving praise from everybody the past 36 hours for doing something one other team has done. To go from that to refocusing on K-state so soon? Very tall order.
Post by: Seawolf97 on March 18, 2018, 02:51:37 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 23, 2018, 03:09:46 pm
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Post by: Checkmate on March 24, 2018, 12:20:18 am
http://www.1013espn.com/do-we-think-john-becker-stays-at-uvm-audio/
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Post by: Seawolf97 on March 24, 2018, 12:20:27 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 24, 2018, 04:17:32 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 26, 2018, 04:40:12 pm
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/978370243042136064
Post by: steveoh on March 26, 2018, 06:39:04 pm
(Meaning, he's not leaving for Middle Tennessee State, but if a Power 5 comes along....).
Post by: Seawolf97 on March 26, 2018, 07:36:25 pm
Post by: steveoh on March 29, 2018, 07:10:19 pm
Jeffrey Bernstein
@Jeff__Bernstein
@RodgerWyland just reported on @WNYT, UAlbany junior guards Joe Cremo and David Nichols plan to leave the program to pursue playing at a higher level. Cremo’s release is expected to come Monday. He has Power 5 interest.
Here's the link
https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/Joe-Cremo-David-Nichols-to-transfer-out-of-12792196.php
Post by: Checkmate on March 29, 2018, 07:45:15 pm
I don't know where to put this, but holy moly:
Jeffrey Bernstein
@Jeff__Bernstein
@RodgerWyland just reported on @WNYT, UAlbany junior guards Joe Cremo and David Nichols plan to leave the program to pursue playing at a higher level. Cremo’s release is expected to come Monday. He has Power 5 interest.
Here's the link
https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/Joe-Cremo-David-Nichols-to-transfer-out-of-12792196.php
An absolute stunner. And now Brown has to go out and pound the pavement for a handful of players ... that’s if Brown even stays. Where there’s smoke there’s fire. Something seems to be up.
This (grad) transfer trend could drop a bomb just about anywhere. Better hope we hold onto Akwasi. And Elijah. And anyone for that matter.
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Post by: OldSeawolf on March 29, 2018, 09:09:07 pm
I was worried for a couple of years that Jameel and Carson would bolt; but they never did. Akwasi could be a flight risk after this coming year as a grad transfer or if he pulls a Nyama, but those risks always exist. Winning can stem that tide and Coach Boals needs to try to keep this young team together with the same intensity he used to recruit them.
In any event this UA news is huge.
Between graduations and transfers, it’s looking more and more like SBU and Hartford will be the teams to beat this upcoming season,
Post by: ibosbu on March 29, 2018, 09:38:44 pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 29, 2018, 10:57:30 pm
that's four players in two days. usually by the end of the third year, you're staying. especially if youre playing. maybe something's up in the cap district???
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 30, 2018, 02:12:03 am
Anytime a good player is graduating and has eligibility remaining,more than likely they will transfer to a higher level of play. It's common, just the nature of today's game. Hurts Albany a lot of course but helps us.I don't see coach Brown leaving Albany's program though. I'd only worry about Yeboah wanting to transfer after his graduation or he could take the Jarius Lyles route and stay for his grad year and carry his squad to the Dance.I don't know where to put this, but holy moly:
Jeffrey Bernstein
@Jeff__Bernstein
@RodgerWyland just reported on @WNYT, UAlbany junior guards Joe Cremo and David Nichols plan to leave the program to pursue playing at a higher level. Cremo’s release is expected to come Monday. He has Power 5 interest.
Here's the link
https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/Joe-Cremo-David-Nichols-to-transfer-out-of-12792196.php
An absolute stunner. And now Brown has to go out and pound the pavement for a handful of players ... that’s if Brown even stays. Where there’s smoke there’s fire. Something seems to be up.
This (grad) transfer trend could drop a bomb just about anywhere. Better hope we hold onto Akwasi. And Elijah. And anyone for that matter.
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Post by: ThegreatK on March 30, 2018, 08:06:56 am
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 30, 2018, 11:23:25 am
Post by: Seawolf97 on March 30, 2018, 04:28:46 pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 30, 2018, 05:38:43 pm
the other two (cochran and conway) i have no idea. but yes- 4 transfers in two days, two of which are the starting backcourt, not good. also 14 transfers over the past few years. this is the new normal, i know. but also im not surprised because brown comes off like such a dick.
add to all that two graduation losses. not good for UA.
Post by: ibosbu on April 02, 2018, 11:37:11 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 03, 2018, 07:05:11 am
Nova was just fantastic tonight. Worthy champion.
Best team in the country by far, but very annoying for me personally. If Michigan would have won, I would have won $1,300 in the pool I was in. With Nova's win, came up totally empty. Gonna have to return that ride-on-mower now, that I pre-ordered for my wife's birthday.
Post by: Seawolf97 on April 03, 2018, 04:58:05 pm
Post by: Checkmate on April 04, 2018, 04:41:49 pm
Post by: Checkmate on April 17, 2018, 01:29:54 pm
- Calixte to Oklahoma
- Nichols to Florida State
- Cremo’s final five includes Oregon, Creighton, Gonzaga, Penn State and Texas. There was some Duke talk around him.
Hope that Yeboah somehow decides to stick around after next season.
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Post by: ThegreatK on April 17, 2018, 01:38:05 pm
Post by: Seawolf97 on April 17, 2018, 02:15:39 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 17, 2018, 03:57:11 pm
So interesting to see where all these AE transfers are ending up.
- Calixte to Oklahoma
- Nichols to Florida State
- Cremo’s final five includes Oregon, Creighton, Gonzaga, Penn State and Texas. There was some Duke talk around him.
Hope that Yeboah somehow decides to stick around after next season.
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Is it me, or is Nichols so non-worthy of playing at Fla St? And even more ridiculous is Cremo at Duke, or any of the other mentioned blue chip colleges. I just don't see either of them succeeding at that level.
A lot will be on Coach Boals to keep Yeboah around, and sell him on the future of the program and on the Jairus Lyles story. Pikiell was able to sell Carson and Jameel to stick around, so it can be done, although this Grad Transfer thing seems to becoming more fashionable these days.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 17, 2018, 03:59:43 pm
Post by: ThegreatK on April 17, 2018, 10:21:05 pm
18, 4 and 4 and 40% from 3 at a "low level D1" usually translates into being a successful power 5 conference player. See it this way, none of the schools chasing Cremo can not find a more impactful 2018 recruit anywhere else. That's what makes him and guys in his position SOOOO VALUABLE. Low D1 grad transfers will become GOLD to High Major coaches if those guys continue transferring up and find success/impact wins.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on April 17, 2018, 10:58:13 pm
With our new recruits coming in and the remaining team we have we should dominate the AE. Our new found size and skill at several positions should be good to say the least.
I think to say we'll dominate is a bit pre-mature, but we should be within striking distance of winning the AE as we should be every year.
Post by: Checkmate on April 23, 2018, 10:00:38 am
“Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard.”
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Post by: Seawolf97 on April 23, 2018, 04:10:10 pm
Post by: Checkmate on May 08, 2018, 11:03:25 am
Post by: OldSeawolf on May 08, 2018, 11:41:15 am
Post by: ry1nik on May 08, 2018, 11:55:20 am
Seriously, going to Nova to be a bench player at best? He’s not that good, imo, not sure what Jay Wright sees in him.If he's "not that good" then going to the national champs, even as a bench player, is a great move on his part.
Post by: Checkmate on May 08, 2018, 12:23:40 pm
Seriously, going to Nova to be a bench player at best? He’s not that good, imo, not sure what Jay Wright sees in him.If he's "not that good" then going to the national champs, even as a bench player, is a great move on his part.
Worst case scenario, you can put him in a corner and he knocks down threes (46 percent last year). He might not start for them, but I can easily see him being part of the puzzle as a veteran presence who gives you 8-10 points a night off the bench. He's not flashy but he can help them.
Post by: OldSeawolf on May 08, 2018, 02:16:53 pm
Seriously, going to Nova to be a bench player at best? He’s not that good, imo, not sure what Jay Wright sees in him.If he's "not that good" then going to the national champs, even as a bench player, is a great move on his part.
I don't know. If playing 10 minutes a game for Nova vs. 30 minutes a game for UA, is what he wants in his last year of eligibility, then good for him. Personally, I'd rather be on the court, than on the bench, regardless of who I play for.
Post by: Checkmate on November 07, 2018, 01:26:38 pm
America East went 2-5 yesterday, with the wins coming from us and UNH's 54-point win over mighty Rivier. As far as the Ls go, only Hartford's home loss to CCSU was particularly noteworthy.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 07, 2018, 01:34:51 pm
as i wrote in the other thread- cremo and nichols got some time. and we get to see calixte on friday.
Post by: Seawolf97 on November 07, 2018, 02:03:31 pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 07, 2018, 03:16:44 pm
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Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 12, 2018, 09:20:58 pm
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Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 12, 2018, 10:43:27 pm
Post by: Checkmate on November 13, 2018, 11:48:12 am
Post by: ibosbu on November 13, 2018, 11:51:37 am
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 13, 2018, 12:27:07 pm
i watched a bit of the vermont game. they hung tough when clearly outmatched.
again i think if teams like hartford can only manage 6 bodies, we should be pushing the ball, pressing (3/4), and pulling away in the second half. GO SB
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 13, 2018, 02:42:59 pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 13, 2018, 02:44:56 pm
Post by: Hammertime on November 13, 2018, 04:09:09 pm
Anything can happen, but having so much depth, with so many of our guys being Freshmen an sophomores and already doing this? It bodes well for this program for years to come. I stand by my statement that we'll be ranked sometime in the next 2-3 seasons.
VA Seawolf. There is nothing more I would love to see than SB being nationally ranked. But wear no Gonzaga. No team in the AE will ever be nationally ranked. Hence, one more reason why I would love for SB to make that jump into a bigger, stronger conference in the future.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 13, 2018, 04:31:42 pm
Anything can happen, but having so much depth, with so many of our guys being Freshmen an sophomores and already doing this? It bodes well for this program for years to come. I stand by my statement that we'll be ranked sometime in the next 2-3 seasons.
VA Seawolf. There is nothing more I would love to see than SB being nationally ranked. But wear no Gonzaga. No team in the AE will ever be nationally ranked. Hence, one more reason why I would love for SB to make that jump into a bigger, stronger conference in the future.
Never say never. We were receiving votes in the AP/Coaches polls and reached the top 30 in the the year we went to the tournament with Warney. We were riding a huge winning streak. Doing that will get you ranked even in a conference like the AE. I recall us dropping some early season games that year (to Vandy and Western Kentucky I think). Win those and we're ranked. This year we already are off to a great start with two upsets.
With games against Rhode Island, Northern Iowa, and others coming up, if we run the table and reach 14-0 (Crazy I know) heading into the new year, I can pretty much guarantee you we'll be ranked. It's not that crazy.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 13, 2018, 04:36:24 pm
just as the FBS vs FCS is closing. long way to go. but closing.
same should be for majors vs mid-majors.
Post by: Checkmate on November 13, 2018, 06:35:55 pm
But for heaven’s sake, let’s go and take care of business against Holy Cross and TBD team this weekend first.
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Post by: Hammertime on November 13, 2018, 06:48:10 pm
Anything can happen, but having so much depth, with so many of our guys being Freshmen an sophomores and already doing this? It bodes well for this program for years to come. I stand by my statement that we'll be ranked sometime in the next 2-3 seasons.
VA Seawolf. There is nothing more I would love to see than SB being nationally ranked. But wear no Gonzaga. No team in the AE will ever be nationally ranked. Hence, one more reason why I would love for SB to make that jump into a bigger, stronger conference in the future.
Never say never. We were receiving votes in the AP/Coaches polls and reached the top 30 in the the year we went to the tournament with Warney. We were riding a huge winning streak. Doing that will get you ranked even in a conference like the AE. I recall us dropping some early season games that year (to Vandy and Western Kentucky I think). Win those and we're ranked. This year we already are off to a great start with two upsets.
With games against Rhode Island, Northern Iowa, and others coming up, if we run the table and reach 14-0 (Crazy I know) heading into the new year, I can pretty much guarantee you we'll be ranked. It's not that crazy.
I love your optimism
Post by: Seawolf97 on November 13, 2018, 08:42:17 pm
Post by: ibosbu on November 13, 2018, 09:18:46 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on November 14, 2018, 06:40:30 am
Post by: Hammertime on November 14, 2018, 06:51:59 am
It's great to dream and project, but right now Holy Cross is the only thing we should be thinking of. One at a time boys....
I learned to be that way as well. Just take one game at a time and dont get too complacent and ahead of yourself.
Post by: Seawolf22 on November 15, 2018, 09:07:04 am
Post by: OldSeawolf on November 15, 2018, 09:55:03 am
HC played Michigan (who just crushed Nova) tight in the first half, and hung around with Providence. Going to be a tough game on a neutral floor.
Good point 22, this game will be no pushover for us, that's for sure. 2 points on the MI vs. Nova game:
- On a personal note, wish MI had beaten Nova in the Championship game last year. Would have won $ 1,000+ in the pool I was in. With Nova winning the game, I won $ 0. Poor me -:(
- I see that Cremo logged 16 minutes off the bench in last night's game (2 pts)
Post by: Checkmate on November 15, 2018, 10:05:20 am
HC played Michigan (who just crushed Nova) tight in the first half, and hung around with Providence. Going to be a tough game on a neutral floor.
Good point 22, this game will be no pushover for us, that's for sure. 2 points on the MI vs. Nova game:
- On a personal note, wish MI had beaten Nova in the Championship game last year. Would have won $ 1,000+ in the pool I was in. With Nova winning the game, I won $ 0. Poor me -:(
- I see that Cremo logged 16 minutes off the bench in last night's game (2 pts)
Nichols is getting about the same for Florida State. Big fish here, small fish there. Still, I don't blame them for taking a shot at the big stage.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 15, 2018, 11:03:05 am
Post by: Checkmate on November 21, 2018, 10:20:45 pm
ICYMI, GW is down to 0-5 after losing by 35 to South Carolina. USC led 56-18 at halftime. Looooong season in our nation’s capital.
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Post by: Checkmate on December 21, 2018, 11:15:26 pm
What I think is interesting is the development of Lamb. He shot the three sparingly as a freshman – just 63 of his 334 attempts – but they're now a third of the shots he's taking. He put up 42 in UVM's overtime win over St. Bonaventure, knocking down **6 of 14** trifectas. That's not the Anthony Lamb I remember. Also, Stef Smith, who came out of Bell-Haynes' high school, looks like the real deal.
Post by: ry1nik on December 22, 2018, 08:33:40 am
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Post by: Chairman of the Board on December 22, 2018, 10:55:12 am
Post by: VA_Seawolf on December 22, 2018, 01:46:35 pm
It'll be a two horse race between us and Vermont for the AE this year. Anthony Lamb is a beast, but we've got so much depth it'll be a fun race for sure.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on December 22, 2018, 03:08:57 pm
we can win though...
Post by: Chairman of the Board on December 22, 2018, 03:40:08 pm
Post by: ibosbu on January 05, 2019, 07:33:26 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on January 07, 2019, 12:29:37 pm
http://realtimerpi.com/college_Men_basketball_rpi_Full.html
Ranked # 145 on NCAA site:
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings
Ranked # 146 on KenPom:
https://kenpom.com/
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 07, 2019, 01:29:18 pm
Really though, this is awesome for SBU. Have we ever been that high?? This is awesome and should eventually result in greater publicity and possibly some votes in the polls if we can keep winning. We should be 16-3 heading into the Albany game, and if we can get through the following game against the puppy dogs, The game against Vermont could be flexed onto ESPN2 or ESPNU as they usually show one or two AE games a year on the national networks.
Post by: OldSeawolf on January 07, 2019, 02:02:20 pm
The year the committee moves from the RPI is the year we're borderline top 50 in that metric. Beautiful ;D ;D
Really though, this is awesome for SBU. Have we ever been that high?? This is awesome and should eventually result in greater publicity and possibly some votes in the polls if we can keep winning. We should be 16-3 heading into the Albany game, and if we can get through the following game against the puppy dogs, The game against Vermont could be flexed onto ESPN2 or ESPNU as they usually show one or two AE games a year on the national networks.
Unless we sweep Vermont, I can't see us inching up all that much, if at all, from here. It would be real sweet if both Vermont and SBU were 5-0 going into 1/26. Really looking forward to that game and the atmosphere in the arena that night.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 09, 2019, 11:22:44 am
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=401083030
Not a bad win at all!! Root for them, URI, and other notable teams that we beat to keep on winning!! It only makes us look stronger in the computer rankings.
Speaking of computer rankings, we're now number 54 in the nation according to RealTimeRPI. GO SB!!
http://realtimerpi.com/ncaab/college_Men_basketball_power_rankings_Full.html
Post by: ibosbu on January 09, 2019, 10:50:12 pm
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Post by: Hammertime on January 23, 2019, 08:21:19 pm
UMBC leading now 36-32. I hope they can win the game at Vermont.Too had SB going to lose again lonely UA to take the lead in the AE.
Post by: ibosbu on January 23, 2019, 08:38:15 pm
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Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 23, 2019, 10:09:58 pm
Our stock is rising even though tonight was a close call.
I think the opposite. I don't think we're anywhere near as good as we think we are. We keep struggling against bad teams. We should have blown out every other team we've played in conference so far by double digits if we were legit. Instead we need a huge rally to beat Maine, and OT to beat Albany. Plus we let two of the worst teams in all of D1 (Bing and UNH) hang around for a half against us. I'd love to think we have a team that's capable of winning the AE and upsetting somebody in the NCAA tournament, but it's hard to believe that when it takes so much effort to beat bad teams.
We have yet to play Hartford or UMBC at all yet. Either could beat us. We get our first crack at UMBC next week. Thinking about going to that one.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 23, 2019, 10:20:35 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on January 24, 2019, 11:17:30 am
Our stock is rising even though tonight was a close call.
I think the opposite. I don't think we're anywhere near as good as we think we are. We keep struggling against bad teams. We should have blown out every other team we've played in conference so far by double digits if we were legit. Instead we need a huge rally to beat Maine, and OT to beat Albany. Plus we let two of the worst teams in all of D1 (Bing and UNH) hang around for a half against us. I'd love to think we have a team that's capable of winning the AE and upsetting somebody in the NCAA tournament, but it's hard to believe that when it takes so much effort to beat bad teams.
We have yet to play Hartford or UMBC at all yet. Either could beat us. We get our first crack at UMBC next week. Thinking about going to that one.
We obviously have talent, but we're young. Yesterday was a differrent kind of game for us, where we were out-rebounded, which is a rarity. They killed us on the offensive glass last night. We were sluggish to the ball, and even though Akwasi was double-digits in rebounds, his flexibility and quickness hasn't been the same since his injury. Maybe it's that darn brace that's restricting him.
Last night's problem, has been our problem in all of these close games. We haven't been moving the ball well for large portions of the game - a lot of our possessions are these one-pass and shoot possessions. How many forced shots did we take last night? Lost count after a dozen. When we move the ball around or when Cornish drives to the whole and dishes, that's when our offense clicks. Young team, solid team, but Coach has to get back to basics with his team, when we get in that launch mode.
Agree that we're still finding a way to win these games (certainly a positive), but I'm afraid that this come-from-behind style of play is going to bite us in the arse sooner rather than later.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 24, 2019, 11:48:11 am
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a lot of our possessions are these one-pass and shoot possessions. How many forced shots did we take last night? Lost count after a dozen. When we move the ball around or when Cornish drives to the whole and dishes, that's when our offense clicks
yes, yes, and yes
and agreed on the playing from behind. not sustainable
Post by: ibosbu on January 24, 2019, 02:59:19 pm
We have yet to play Hartford or UMBC at all yet. Either could beat us. We get our first crack at UMBC next week. Thinking about going to that one.
UMBC looks good... not dominant good like UVM with healthy Lamb.. but good enough that I am guessing our two games will be a split.. each holding serve at home.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 29, 2019, 06:03:30 pm
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Post by: ibosbu on January 31, 2019, 08:48:49 am
Rutgers nabbed its third straight win tonight, beating Indiana at the RAC. It's the first time Rutgers has won three straight conference games since 2004. 4-6 is nothing to write home about, but at least there's some reason for optimism there. A sophomore led them in scoring, and two freshmen joined him in the starting lineup. They lose just one player after this year, and he's replaced on the roster by one of their biggest recruits ever.If they can win a few more games and can get into the top half of big ten standing, I imagine they will be in the at-large bid conversation. That will be huge for the program.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 31, 2019, 10:19:10 am
Rutgers nabbed its third straight win tonight, beating Indiana at the RAC. It's the first time Rutgers has won three straight conference games since 2004. 4-6 is nothing to write home about, but at least there's some reason for optimism there. A sophomore led them in scoring, and two freshmen joined him in the starting lineup. They lose just one player after this year, and he's replaced on the roster by one of their biggest recruits ever.If they can win a few more games and can get into the top half of big ten standing, I imagine they will be in the at-large bid conversation. That will be huge for the program.
They'd need a great showing in the conference tournament and the Big Ten is stacked this year, so it'll be a challenge, but you can't write them off. Grea to see Pikell do well.
Post by: ibosbu on January 31, 2019, 11:19:46 am
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Post by: OldSeawolf on February 16, 2019, 10:57:48 pm
Hartford is a dangerous team; their one major problem is their coach, IMO. Not very strong. Anyone who saw Hartford's last possession with 21 seconds left tonight would agree. But don't be surprised if they bump someone off in the Tournament this year.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on February 23, 2019, 04:08:48 pm
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Post by: guest369 on April 18, 2019, 06:06:47 pm
https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1118994720309547008?s=21
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 18, 2019, 07:00:31 pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on April 18, 2019, 11:58:19 pm
Source: Vermont's Anthony Lamb has declared for the 2019 NBA Draft.
https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1118994720309547008?s=21
OH THANK YOU SWEET BABY JESUS!!!
We need somebody to actually draft him or for him to wind up in a camp somewhere, but my goodness do things get interesting if he isn't back. Now just imagine if he gets drafted and we hang on to Yeboah somehow (not happening, but a man can dream).
Post by: Checkmate on April 19, 2019, 11:52:21 pm
Source: Vermont's Anthony Lamb has declared for the 2019 NBA Draft.
https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1118994720309547008?s=21
I give him a 80% chance of returning to school. I’m surprised he’s not a transfer candidate truthfully. He has done everything that he can in the AE.
Who was the last AE player to declare early like this? Has it ever happened? It’s been over 25 years since Vin Baker got drafted.
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Post by: Wolffan on May 27, 2019, 05:59:12 pm
https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/sports/college/2019/05/27/anthony-lamb-withdraws-nba-draft-return-uvm-basketball-senior-year/1249805001/
Post by: guest369 on May 27, 2019, 06:29:00 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on May 27, 2019, 07:52:08 pm
Looks like Lamb is coming back to Vermont after checking out his NBA prospects:
https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/sports/college/2019/05/27/anthony-lamb-withdraws-nba-draft-return-uvm-basketball-senior-year/1249805001/
Maybe Yeboah will come back to SBU too after checking out the Big Ten schedule and realizing that Rutgers will be a below .500 team :)
Post by: Chairman of the Board on May 27, 2019, 08:48:44 pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on May 27, 2019, 08:50:14 pm
Post by: Checkmate on May 27, 2019, 09:28:59 pm
i obviously don't know the rules but i thought once you declare- that's it for eligibility. guess not.
They changed the rule a few years ago. A lot of guys test the waters and go back now.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on May 28, 2019, 09:05:43 am
i obviously don't know the rules but i thought once you declare- that's it for eligibility. guess not.
They changed the rule a few years ago. A lot of guys test the waters and go back now.
Yep. Only the NFL is once you leave you cannot return.
Post by: Checkmate on July 15, 2019, 11:49:38 am
https://www.ithaca.com/news/ithaca/update-binghamton-university-student-drowns-in-upper-buttermilk/article_5358a974-a6b8-11e9-8524-7ba3f71f009b.html
Post by: Checkmate on November 06, 2019, 11:40:47 am
Rutgers debuts tomorrow. I'm curious to see where Yeboah fits into their rotation.
Almonacy and Long get started at SNHU this weekend.
Post by: OldSeawolf on November 07, 2019, 08:08:22 pm
Rutgers debuts tomorrow. I'm curious to see where Yeboah fits into their rotation.
Watched the first half. Rutgers seems like a speed team this year; very athletic but not a lot of basketball IQ. Akwasi seems to be the 6th or 7th man on team. Although he hit a late 3, he looked a bit lost and didn't have a lot of court chemistry with the rest of the team, IMO. First game of the year, so can't really make a judgement yet. It's hard to go from being the man, to being on the 2nd team, but I'm sure he'll make a contribution. Comment made by announcers that Pikiell is going to run more this year, since he's always in the basement offensively in the Big 10.
Lots of references to SBU, when Akwasi first got in the game. Even showed a still photo of entire team with Pikiell, when he was a redshirt freshman, and announcers gave kudos to Danny Carter for alerting Pikiell to "this kid in England". I hope he does well, even though I still think he made the wrong choice.
Post by: Checkmate on November 07, 2019, 11:13:09 pm
Rutgers debuts tomorrow. I'm curious to see where Yeboah fits into their rotation.
Watched the first half. Rutgers seems like a speed team this year; very athletic but not a lot of basketball IQ. Akwasi seems to be the 6th or 7th man on team. Although he hit a late 3, he looked a bit lost and didn't have a lot of court chemistry with the rest of the team, IMO. First game of the year, so can't really make a judgement yet. It's hard to go from being the man, to being on the 2nd team, but I'm sure he'll make a contribution. Comment made by announcers that Pikiell is going to run more this year, since he's always in the basement offensively in the Big 10.
Lots of references to SBU, when Akwasi first got in the game. Even showed a still photo of entire team with Pikiell, when he was a redshirt freshman, and announcers gave kudos to Danny Carter for alerting Pikiell to "this kid in England". I hope he does well, even though I still think he made the wrong choice.
Got the start, 24 minutes, 10 points on 2 for 8 shooting, 5 for 6 at the line. Leading scorers for Rutgers went 11, 11, 10, 9, 9, 8, 7. Their non-conference schedule is equal to or worse than ours, but of course they have wars twice a week in the Big Ten. I'm sure it'll be fun to play in front of raucous crowds all the time. Hey, wait, I'm raucous!
Post by: Checkmate on November 08, 2019, 09:16:31 pm
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Post by: Checkmate on November 14, 2019, 03:31:26 pm
Rutgers is up to 3-0 also with wins over Bryant, Niagara and Drexel. Yeboah's been a solid bench piece for them, averaging about 10 a night.
Almonacy and Long have started each of SNHU’s first two games. Almonacy 9.5 ppg, 5 rpg, 4.5 apg in 31 minutes a night. Long 12 ppg on 8 of 11 shooting. I’ll bet they’re enjoying their time up there.
Post by: Checkmate on November 16, 2019, 04:58:25 pm
UMBC 60, Georgian Court 48 - it was a three point game with five minutes left
Hartford 86, Gordon 79 - tie game with nine minutes left
I have heard of a *lot* of obscure schools, but Georgian Court is a new one for me. It’s in Lakewood, NJ? I had no idea.
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Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 16, 2019, 06:30:22 pm
Post by: SaltySeawolf on November 16, 2019, 09:52:26 pm
Already two odd results in the AE today.
UMBC 60, Georgian Court 48 - it was a three point game with five minutes left
Hartford 86, Gordon 79 - tie game with nine minutes left
I have heard of a *lot* of obscure schools, but Georgian Court is a new one for me. It’s in Lakewood, NJ? I had no idea.
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When I was in college - mid 90's - Georgian Court was an all girl's school. NAIA I believe at the time. So they have been coed less than 30 years. Edit - I just found this wiki - In 2013, Georgian Court became fully coeducational after more than 100 years as a women's college.
Post by: Checkmate on November 17, 2019, 08:59:03 pm
Maine, just north of Portland, ME, flew all the way to Portland, OR for a game, losing 71-62. El Darwich and Prijovic played all 40 minutes.
Post by: Hammertime on November 18, 2019, 07:45:09 am
A couple other interesting results from yesterday. Manhattan, who we'll face in a couple weeks, held Albany to 28 percent shooting in a 57-51 win. A couple sophomore guards, Tykei Greene and Samir Stewart, led the way offensively. I remember Manhattan being more than happy to muck games up and this was another example.
Maine, just north of Portland, ME, flew all the way to Portland, OR for a game, losing 71-62. El Darwich and Prijovic played all 40 minutes.
I cant understand why teams travel across country to play another team. I know scheduling is tough, but there are hundreds of D1 schools close enough, surely there must be a school willing to schedule you.
Stony brook Football has a history of traveling to the West Coast to play FBS teams every year, tough teams I must say. Why cant they schedule something closer. UMASS, UCONN, BC, Syracuse, Rutgers. Maryland, Buffalo, etc.. These are all bus rides away. What do I know anyways!!
Post by: Checkmate on November 19, 2019, 08:58:58 pm
34 of UVM’s 52 shot attempts were from three. Book the following: we are going to do the saaaame thing because it’s our only hope!
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Post by: OldSeawolf on November 19, 2019, 09:10:10 pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 20, 2019, 02:55:23 am
Post by: OldSeawolf on November 20, 2019, 06:28:58 am
If Vermont looks mortal, then with our team.... I think we've got a real shot.
VA, just to clarify, Lamb didn't look mortal at all, except at end of game, when he missed 3 desperation 3's in a row. Honestly, for the first time, he looked like an NBA caliber guy to me. He's stronger, his moves were sharper, and he was lighting it up from behind the arc. The remaining Duncan boys are a mere shell of what Ernie was. Stef Smith is probably their 2nd best player, IMO. Just need to focus on shutting down Lamb (easier said, than done).
Hope you're going to see the game at UVa; they look like a real solid team.
Post by: Checkmate on November 20, 2019, 10:42:27 am
If Vermont looks mortal, then with our team.... I think we've got a real shot.
VA, just to clarify, Lamb didn't look mortal at all, except at end of game, when he missed 3 desperation 3's in a row. Honestly, for the first time, he looked like an NBA caliber guy to me. He's stronger, his moves were sharper, and he was lighting it up from behind the arc. The remaining Duncan boys are a mere shell of what Ernie was. Stef Smith is probably their 2nd best player, IMO. Just need to focus on shutting down Lamb (easier said, than done).
Hope you're going to see the game at UVa; they look like a real solid team.
A light bulb clearly went off for Lamb after his freshman season. If he's going to play at the next level, he had to improve his perimeter game. He may be able to do work on the block in the America East, but not against elite competition at 6-6/225, and certainly not in the NBA. I still think he's a second-round pick who's more of a G League guy.
Post by: ry1nik on November 20, 2019, 01:40:55 pm
Post by: Hammertime on November 20, 2019, 01:52:32 pm
The last time an AEC player was drafted from a team still in the conference was 1993 (Hartford) when the conference was stronger than it is today. If Warney didn't make it, I don't see Lamb making it.
Lamb can score 50 points a game and he still will not get drafted because he's too small and not quick enough. Not my rules. Blame the NBA!!!!!
Post by: Checkmate on November 20, 2019, 02:24:44 pm
The last time an AEC player was drafted from a team still in the conference was 1993 (Hartford) when the conference was stronger than it is today. If Warney didn't make it, I don't see Lamb making it.
Lamb can score 50 points a game and he still will not get drafted because he's too small and not quick enough. Not my rules. Blame the NBA!!!!!
I'd say it's a 25% chance Lamb gets drafted in the latter half of the second round. If he goes to these blue-blood schools, does he even crack the starting five? Akwasi didn't – but of course he isn't as good as Lamb, and certainly not in terms of productivity. It's not a bad comp though with their comparable size and athleticism, which is to say good but not great. By the time he's done at UVM, his body of work will be outstanding, but the list of all-time players in the AE is also a list of sub-NBA and overseas players. With an established minor league system in the states, I could still see him sticking in the G League and getting a cup of coffee in the NBA. End of bench role at best.
Post by: Checkmate on November 20, 2019, 07:59:10 pm
They haven’t been able to get out of their own way over the years, but talent-wise, they’ve looked all right to me just in the half of a half I’ve watched so far.
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Post by: Checkmate on November 22, 2019, 10:49:55 am
Made their threes (12-24), made their free throws (24-30). Good recipe.
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Post by: Checkmate on December 01, 2019, 07:21:59 pm
KenPom has the AE ranked 25th out of 32 conferences at this point. While that's not great, I do think it's encouraging that the AE is 39-35 (assuming Bingo loses) at this point in the season. Every team but Maine is one game under .500 or better. Could we finish at .500 or better in non-conference games as a league? Has that ever happened? For comparison, last year, we were 65-83 as a conference.
Post by: Checkmate on December 03, 2019, 12:20:46 pm
I'm curious what Akwasi thinks of his move. He played just 15 minutes in Rutgers' win over UMass this weekend and has been strictly a reserve for them, not unlike Cremo at Villanova. I'd imagine he probably thinks he accomplished all he could here pretty much and wanted a new challenge, and that will only be reinforced when he's playing in front of packed houses in the Big Ten.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on December 03, 2019, 12:33:32 pm
of course he'll get more visibility at ruTgers but won't be the focus.
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 03, 2019, 12:39:44 pm
Almonacy averaging 16 points, 5 boards and 3 assists in 33 minutes at Southern New Hampshire. Long is playing a lot as well. I have to think they're happy with their decisions.
I'm curious what Akwasi thinks of his move. He played just 15 minutes in Rutgers' win over UMass this weekend and has been strictly a reserve for them, not unlike Cremo at Villanova. I'd imagine he probably thinks he accomplished all he could here pretty much and wanted a new challenge, and that will only be reinforced when he's playing in front of packed houses in the Big Ten.
Good for Almonacy and Long - 2 good kids.
Re:Akwasi, I hope he does well, since he's a class act, but can't help but think that as a reserve and on a team that probably won't fair too well in their conference, that he will look back on it as a mistake of sorts. He would have been the leader on our team, and with the additions of Makale and Mo, we probably would have been the favorite to win it all this year. I guess his desire to find out if he could play at a higher level, outweighed any thoughts of coming back.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on December 03, 2019, 02:00:59 pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on December 03, 2019, 02:56:12 pm
Post by: Checkmate on December 03, 2019, 04:24:14 pm
Post by: Checkmate on December 07, 2019, 03:08:38 pm
Fordham 22
Manhattan 14
Further proof that Manhattan is terrible.
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Post by: Wolffan on December 08, 2019, 11:38:09 am
Post by: Seawolf97 on December 08, 2019, 01:58:00 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 08, 2019, 09:24:31 pm
Post by: SaltySeawolf on December 21, 2019, 06:34:51 pm
At this point I am looking forward to league play. When SBU has had problems with teams so far this year it has been by superior guard play turning us over. We will not see that type of guard play from any teams in the America East. Couple that with the fact that our "bigs" are better than everyone else's bigs and it should be a really fun conference season. Vermont is still a big favorite to win it, but I really like this SBU team.
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 22, 2019, 08:25:56 am
At one time there was some talk that the AE was over .500 in OOC play. Well that ship has sailed and the wheels have fallen off for most AE teams right now. Right now, it looks like only Vermont and SB will end up with winning ooc records.
At this point I am looking forward to league play. When SBU has had problems with teams so far this year it has been by superior guard play turning us over. We will not see that type of guard play from any teams in the America East. Couple that with the fact that our "bigs" are better than everyone else's bigs and it should be a really fun conference season. Vermont is still a big favorite to win it, but I really like this SBU team.
Salty, while I generally agree with what you say, I don't think Vermont is a big favorite over us, possibly a small one. Clearly, they have the best player in the league - Lamb, but their loss of Ernie to graduation is a huge loss, and really takes a lot out of their inside/outside game, IMO. Akwasi a big loss for us, but the additions of Makale and Mo, make us a deeper team, I believe, and surely a force in the paint defensively. The stat mentioned during the American game is very telling - coming into the game we were 6th in the nation defensively with 2-point FG% allowed. Also, very impressed with Geno at this point; really like the way he manages the roster during games.
I think if we can stay healthy, stay out of foul trouble in games, and keep the unforced TO's to a minimum, I think we're a better overall team on paper than Vermont. As a league, we played a lot of strong teams in OOC play, and I think our league continues to get stronger overall. I expect some upset wins in the AE during the course of the season.
I think it will take 12 (or possibly 13) wins to take the league this year, and I think we have a shot at this.
Post by: Checkmate on February 01, 2020, 12:25:18 am
https://twitter.com/BTNDaveRevsine/status/1223338296262254594?s=20
Post by: Chairman of the Board on February 01, 2020, 09:53:55 am
of course, it's no comparison to the UNCs and UVAs of the world. but they've parlayed a few good football seasons into a money machine (and now, schiano is back). i was there for the MSU upset in 2005 (the FG contest).
outsiders hear rutgers and they think, armpit of america, highest STD rate, jersey shore, etc. But it really has a lot of positives. if it didnt, the B1G would NOT have come calling for a perennial athletics doormat.
then again, rutgers was founded in the late 1700s. we are 1957.
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Post by: VA_Seawolf on February 03, 2020, 01:11:31 am
Post by: guest369 on February 03, 2020, 11:52:54 am
Post by: Checkmate on March 11, 2020, 01:18:17 pm
https://twitter.com/CBITourney/status/1237780933882847234?s=20
I fully realize that this is not earth-shattering news.
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 11, 2020, 01:26:20 pm
Sam Sessons of Bing just went free agent in the Transfer portal.
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 12, 2020, 11:50:17 am
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 12, 2020, 11:59:14 am
The CBI has been canceled. We'll see if the CIT follows suit.
https://twitter.com/CBITourney/status/1237780933882847234?s=20
I fully realize that this is not earth-shattering news.
I'm ok with this. Anything lower than the NIT shouldn't exist I think. Just like half of the FBS bowl games are useless IMO. Giving post season games just for the hell of it to team that aren't very good just doesn't make sense to me.
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 12, 2020, 02:10:28 pm
Maine G Peter Stümer (FR) is leaving the program.
Post by: Moveitfred on March 13, 2020, 04:53:20 pm
>>>>Dr. Grace Calhoun, the athletic director at the University of Pennsylvania, wrote that the committee will "also discuss issues related to seasons of competition for winter sport student-athletes who were unable to participate in conference and NCAA championships."<<<<
Prediction: Yet another season of Lamb and Duncan tearing the heart out of SBU...
Post by: Hammertime on March 13, 2020, 05:51:00 pm
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/28898928/ncaa-discuss-granting-athletes-eligibility-relief
>>>>Dr. Grace Calhoun, the athletic director at the University of Pennsylvania, wrote that the committee will "also discuss issues related to seasons of competition for winter sport student-athletes who were unable to participate in conference and NCAA championships."<<<<
Prediction: Yet another season of Lamb and Duncan tearing the heart out of SBU...
Good for them. Lamb and Duncan deserve this. Do you really think SB men's BB will be a contender next season for the AE title?? I dont. I feel bad for the SBW BB. 28-3 is amzing. To throw all that away is so sad. These chicks bsoutley had a chance to make the NCAA with Pagan back on the team.
Post by: Moveitfred on March 13, 2020, 06:04:33 pm
Post by: guest369 on March 13, 2020, 06:21:59 pm
I agree with giving spring sports athletes that extra year, but for them? Nah.
Post by: SaltySeawolf on March 13, 2020, 09:50:21 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 13, 2020, 09:59:11 pm
Lamb and Duncan can go **** themselves, as far as I'm concerned, they played an entire season sans 2+ games.100%. No way they give winter athletes another year.
I agree with giving spring sports athletes that extra year, but for them? Nah.
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Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 14, 2020, 02:42:29 am
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/28898928/ncaa-discuss-granting-athletes-eligibility-relief
>>>>Dr. Grace Calhoun, the athletic director at the University of Pennsylvania, wrote that the committee will "also discuss issues related to seasons of competition for winter sport student-athletes who were unable to participate in conference and NCAA championships."<<<<
Prediction: Yet another season of Lamb and Duncan tearing the heart out of SBU...
Good for them. Lamb and Duncan deserve this. Do you really think SB men's BB will be a contender next season for the AE title?? I dont. I feel bad for the SBW BB. 28-3 is amzing. To throw all that away is so sad. These chicks bsoutley had a chance to make the NCAA with Pagan back on the team.
LOL. As sad as the end of this season was, I have no doubt we'd be the favorite in the AE with Lamb and potentially Sessoms gone. Even with Ford's questionable coaching. I said that if Ford doesn't win the AE next year he needs to be let go. Continuity is the reason I say we don't let him go now. We'll have a lot of seniors next year and potentially changing up the system and adding a new coach now ahead of that wouldn't be wise IMO.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 24, 2020, 04:38:04 pm
Post by: Moveitfred on March 25, 2020, 03:53:09 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 29, 2020, 11:31:53 am
https://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/2020/03/big-cliff-omoruyi-commits-to-rutgers-in-biggest-recruiting-coup-in-more-than-a-decade.html
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Post by: Hammertime on March 29, 2020, 01:41:16 pm
Pikiell lands his best recruit ever - big man Cliff Omoruyi from just down the street. Ranked 36th nationally per Rivals. What a turnaround over there.
https://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/2020/03/big-cliff-omoruyi-commits-to-rutgers-in-biggest-recruiting-coup-in-more-than-a-decade.html
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That is awesome. I hope Rutgers wins the Big10 next season.
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 30, 2020, 06:33:12 pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 30, 2020, 09:28:19 pm
Post by: guest369 on March 31, 2020, 01:01:29 am
Post by: GoSeawolves on March 31, 2020, 04:37:08 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 31, 2020, 04:55:32 pm
I know the Big Sky isn't much, but it's good to see somebody start the year a little slow and really hit his stride in conference play.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 31, 2020, 05:52:29 pm
Now instead of winning 7 games a season, they’ll win 3!
And we will still be at least one of those...
Sessoms at Penn State is huge. They were having a great year this year. Not sure who they get back next year, but whoever that is plus Sessoms? That'll be one strong team.
Post by: Hammertime on April 01, 2020, 06:22:45 am
The rich get richer. Vermont lands Bernie Andre, an all-conference guy at Northern Arizona, and he's immediately eligible. And he can shoot it a bit (35% from three). Mazzulla, Murphy and now Andre to go alongside Smith, Davis and others.
I know the Big Sky isn't much, but it's good to see somebody start the year a little slow and really hit his stride in conference play.
Exactly. Year after year Baker finds transfers, recruits who are A10 caliber players, and they stay. Nobody transferring out of Vermont.
SB is falling back to the dark days.
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 03, 2020, 10:35:13 am
https://twitter.com/JohnniesPride/status/1245104929137721346?s=20
Post by: Hammertime on April 03, 2020, 10:43:22 am
Jeff Otchere looks to be in demand in some good programs. Also, some rumblings that Boals at Ohio U may be interested:
https://twitter.com/JohnniesPride/status/1245104929137721346?s=20
Good for him. Stony Brook doesn't deserve a player him. Some people are saying he wasn't good. well, apparently a bunch of power 5 schools thinks differently.
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 03, 2020, 10:53:15 am
Jeff Otchere looks to be in demand in some good programs. Also, some rumblings that Boals at Ohio U may be interested:
https://twitter.com/JohnniesPride/status/1245104929137721346?s=20
Good for him. Stony Brook doesn't deserve a player him. Some people are saying he wasn't good. well, apparently a bunch of power 5 schools thinks differently.
I wish him luck as well. He's a defensive force and solid rebounder. He really needs to work on his hands and his footwork, if he's to become a more complete player, IMO.
Post by: Hammertime on April 03, 2020, 11:02:54 am
Absolutely. But I think with the right coaching staff they will make him a better player on both sides of the ballJeff Otchere looks to be in demand in some good programs. Also, some rumblings that Boals at Ohio U may be interested:
https://twitter.com/JohnniesPride/status/1245104929137721346?s=20
Good for him. Stony Brook doesn't deserve a player him. Some people are saying he wasn't good. well, apparently a bunch of power 5 schools thinks differently.
I wish him luck as well. He's a defensive force and solid rebounder. He really needs to work on his hands and his footwork, if he's to become a more complete player, IMO.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 03, 2020, 11:55:54 am
academics aside, i noticed that two recent recruits on our radar were looking at kent state. and that's my point- we aren't even talking B1G or ACC. but that next tier down- even there, we lose out to those schools. why?
Post by: guest369 on April 03, 2020, 01:43:55 pm
Post by: Hammertime on April 03, 2020, 02:11:41 pm
We need to get out of the America East. It’s not appropriate for us as an academic institution to be down at this level.
Bingo, hallelujah. I've been saying that for years, but who is going to invite SB into a bigger, better confrnce.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 03, 2020, 02:27:10 pm
Post by: guest369 on April 03, 2020, 02:33:19 pm
I wasn’t around during the Warney era, but the attendance numbers looked pretty good then.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 03, 2020, 02:50:17 pm
now for sports like baseball and wlax, good on them to sustain success. well, more so wlax than any other (seven straight titles now???).
Post by: Hammertime on April 03, 2020, 02:56:56 pm
it's hard to build excitement- even harder to sustain it. the shine from the 2016 berth is all gone. similarly, the momentum that football and mlax had 10 years ago- old news.
now for sports like baseball and wlax, good on them to sustain success. well, more so wlax than any other (seven straight titles now???).
Very frustrating seeing a team, University go backwards as time goes on. How much more support do the administrations think theybare going to get from season ticket holders, if they dont start winning . Fans want to see their team make it into the playoffs and go far. Cash donations for sports are going to dwindle down to nothing.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on April 03, 2020, 03:11:13 pm
We need to get out of the America East. It’s not appropriate for us as an academic institution to be down at this level.
Bingo, hallelujah. I've been saying that for years, but who is going to invite SB into a bigger, better confrnce.
The A10 would be the next logical step (CAA is a lateral move IMO. Both are one bid conferences). I think if we can actually start dominating the AE the way Vermont has done, an A10 invite would come in short order. That's the easiest move to make as it wouldn't involve football. I think it could happen, but we've got to start winning. I think we spend more money on athletics, but get less out of it than any other school at the low major level. That's got to change.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 03, 2020, 03:35:34 pm
i think it's because we generally get recruits that have no other option.
why?
Post by: Hammertime on April 03, 2020, 03:52:15 pm
We need to get out of the America East. It’s not appropriate for us as an academic institution to be down at this level.
Bingo, hallelujah. I've been saying that for years, but who is going to invite SB into a bigger, better confrnce.
The A10 would be the next logical step (CAA is a lateral move IMO. Both are one bid conferences). I think if we can actually start dominating the AE the way Vermont has done, an A10 invite would come in short order. That's the easiest move to make as it wouldn't involve football. I think it could happen, but we've got to start winning. I think we spend more money on athletics, but get less out of it than any other school at the low major level. That's got to change.
Let me ask you this. Why is Vermont still in the AE for Basketball. They are a much better team all around and their new facility is underway. If Vermont has no chance of making the A-10, I don't see how SB or UA can..
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 03, 2020, 03:58:44 pm
Ranking of conferences by AdjEM of team that's expected to go .500 in conference play
Conference Rating
1 Big Ten Conference +17.49 Keep Dreaming
2 Big 12 Conference +15.73
3 Big East Conference +15.49 Keep Dreaming
4 Atlantic Coast Conf +11.45
5 Pac 12 Conference +11.35
6 Southeastern Conf +10.98
7 American Athletic Conf +8.62
8 West Coast Conference +5.29
9 Atlantic 10 Conference +5.01 Target
10 Mountain West Conf +4.99
11 Missouri Valley Conf +2.46
12 Mid American Conf +0.22
13 Conference USA -0.12
14 Sun Belt Conference -0.14
15 Southern Conference -0.20
16 Ivy League -0.95
17 Big Sky Conference -2.26
18 Colonial Athletic Assoc -3.35 Lateral Move
19 Summit League -3.53
20 Big West Conference -5.07
21 Metro Atlantic Athletic -6.30 Lateral Move
22 Horizon League -6.46
23 Patriot League -6.55 Lateral Move
24 Western Athletic Conf -6.64
25 America East Conference -7.69 Are we stuck here?
26 Atlantic Sun Conference -8.63
27 Northeast Conference -8.63 Downgrade
28 Southland Conference -9.41
29 Ohio Valley Conference -9.67
30 Big South Conference -10.82
31 Southwestern Athletic -14.37
32 Mid-Eastern Athletic Conf -15.47
Post by: guest369 on April 03, 2020, 04:19:31 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 03, 2020, 04:46:31 pm
I can’t see Vermont ever moving up because outside of basketball they don’t really offer anything. Whereas for us, yeah our basketball has been worse than them but we outclass them in literally every other sport. Plus, the Long Island population.
Basketball (and football) rule.
Post by: Wolfie_MD on April 03, 2020, 04:55:31 pm
Will see where athletics goes whenever college sports returns- there will be a LOT of financial problems to deal with across the country.
Post by: guest369 on April 03, 2020, 04:56:52 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 03, 2020, 05:00:48 pm
Will see where athletics goes whenever college sports returns- there will be a LOT of financial problems to deal with across the country.
You're absolutely correct Wolfie! While I live in my sports bubble to help distract me from this horrible virus, in all likelihood, it's going to take an awful lot to dig out from this financially. Although the state budget was passed today, it is based on expected federal money and somewhat robust future bounce-back of the state economy. This is all a big TBD at this point. No money, and there will be cuts (possibly drastic).
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 03, 2020, 05:16:39 pm
meaning- if you are in a conference where bus rides are viable- big savings. very efficient.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on April 03, 2020, 06:22:57 pm
I can’t see Vermont ever moving up because outside of basketball they don’t really offer anything. Whereas for us, yeah our basketball has been worse than them but we outclass them in literally every other sport. Plus, the Long Island population.
Exactly this. SBU is an AAU research university in a huge state and a huge market. Hell, having the Coronavirus pop-up hospital on campus will further highlight SBU's importance to the region. Vermont has none of that. That's why I wouldn't rule out being in the Big Ten or ACC 50 years down the road. Will I still care about college sports by then? Maybe not, but it's possible for SBU to get there.
The A-10 and FBS independence should be our next goal. I know UConn and UMass have really sucked as indies but is that because of them being independents or were they just poorly run?
The more FBS independent schools there are, the more viable this is. Perhaps another conference could form. Us, Uconn, Umass. Liberty would want to be in a conference, JMU and Delaware want FBS, ODU would appreciate having a couple other VA schools in the conference. Temple may find themselves on an island if the AAC gets raided further, Buffalo might want to join.... it's not that far fetched that a regional FBS league could form.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 03, 2020, 06:48:44 pm
ill add- if forming a conference, i suppose it only really works if you have the goods- meaning you can draw in tv contracts. which means the media companies want eyeballs on the screen- to bring in ad revenues.
and it's hard to have eyeballs on the screen with 2k fans in an arena on a typical game night.
Post by: Hammertime on April 04, 2020, 04:25:09 am
Will see where athletics goes whenever college sports returns- there will be a LOT of financial problems to deal with across the country.
You're absolutely correct Wolfie! While I live in my sports bubble to help distract me from this horrible virus, in all likelihood, it's going to take an awful lot to dig out from this financially. Although the state budget was passed today, it is based on expected federal money and somewhat robust future bounce-back of the state economy. This is all a big TBD at this point. No money, and there will be cuts (possibly drastic).
I hate to be the barrier of bad news, as always it seems like, but we are sitting in a depression currently. When April unemployment numbers come out in a few weeks the numbers are going to be staggering.
Coumo budget is all based on forward projected numbers, with that said, Stony Brook isn't going anywhere. I am actually more concerned about their football program being solvent. Abandoning their football team is a real possibility in a year or two...
Post by: Tml on April 04, 2020, 07:35:53 am
Post by: guest369 on April 04, 2020, 12:25:13 pm
Post by: Hammertime on April 04, 2020, 02:16:22 pm
We better be rewarded for all the stuff that our school is doing to help fight COVID. Stadium expansion, more funding, whatever. If we do all of this during crisis time and still don’t get anything from it? Cuomo will be an all-time villain for me.
Stony brook Hospital and University is a state run institution. There is no reward for doing this. The only reward you are probably going to see is no games being played this year at LaValle Stadium. If they even have a college football season at all!!!!!
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 04, 2020, 03:16:49 pm
Maybe a public college Ivy League but striving for better athletics: Bingo, Army, Navy, SB, Albany, William & Mary? Excellent academics and quality teams.
great idea, i love it.
again i think it comes down to $$$, which is asses in seats. and we just dont bring that. army/navy do, W&M perhaps, ualbAny sometimes.
really if they fix student life that all changes.
Post by: guest369 on April 05, 2020, 03:04:43 pm
Post by: Seawolf97 on April 05, 2020, 04:11:07 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 26, 2020, 10:50:54 pm
https://twitter.com/ethantsbu/status/1254546906178600962?s=21
Post by: guest369 on April 27, 2020, 12:34:28 am
Post by: SaltySeawolf on April 27, 2020, 10:09:31 am
Post by: Checkmate on April 27, 2020, 10:34:22 am
It would make sense, if playing time was a main issue, that moving down would be your best (only) option. He wasn't going to move to a Power 5 Conference school and get more playing time. The only way he can prove he is a pro caliber player is by getting on the floor a lot more.
He's not getting a lot more time anywhere without addressing his foul issues. He could have easily gotten 28-30 minutes here but just couldn't get out of his own way. I wish him the best. He'll play somewhere professionally.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on April 27, 2020, 07:25:47 pm
Literally a school we beat last year. I don’t get it. I see it as a downward movement, the AE’s more competitive than the WAC
That's actually incorrect I'm sad to say. The WAC has New Mexico State which is usually the league's best team, and several others bring the overall RPI of that league somewhere into the high teens. That's much better than the lower 20's the AE usually is in. The AE is often one of the bottom 5-10 conferences in the country, so this is actually an upgrade from a competition standpoint for Otchere.
Post by: Checkmate on April 27, 2020, 07:39:45 pm
I was stunned to see that the AE far outranked the WAC this season. But every other year it has us by a good margin.Literally a school we beat last year. I don’t get it. I see it as a downward movement, the AE’s more competitive than the WAC
That's actually incorrect I'm sad to say. The WAC has New Mexico State which is usually the league's best team, and several others bring the overall RPI of that league somewhere into the high teens. That's much better than the lower 20's the AE usually is in. The AE is often one of the bottom 5-10 conferences in the country, so this is actually an upgrade from a competition standpoint for Otchere.
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Post by: Checkmate on April 27, 2020, 07:41:20 pm
https://twitter.com/malmonacy2016/status/1254814203594096640?s=21
Looking at Ceesay's Twitter followership, his most recent follows include coaches from Point University, Washington Adventist University, Life University and Quincy University.
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Post by: OldSeawolf on April 27, 2020, 10:59:27 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on May 13, 2020, 11:47:46 am
https://twitter.com/DrNicole1908/status/1260549744742596608?s=20
Post by: Hammertime on May 13, 2020, 12:19:08 pm
California State Schools have canceled sports for the upcoming Fall, 2020 season. This means no football for Fresno State, San Diego State and San Jose State, in Mountain West Conference. This is a huge decision. Basketball still a question mark for these schools"
https://twitter.com/DrNicole1908/status/1260549744742596608?s=20
This is bad. New York, Chicago will follow suit. guaranteed..
Post by: VA_Seawolf on May 13, 2020, 02:23:00 pm
California State Schools have canceled sports for the upcoming Fall, 2020 season. This means no football for Fresno State, San Diego State and San Jose State, in Mountain West Conference. This is a huge decision. Basketball still a question mark for these schools"
https://twitter.com/DrNicole1908/status/1260549744742596608?s=20
That's huge. Expect the cascading effects to start hitting elsewhere soon too with other schools shutting down sports for the fall.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on May 13, 2020, 02:37:15 pm
wondering if others could follow, as a cost cutting measure. note this is 12 months ahead of time.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on May 13, 2020, 03:35:12 pm
for whatever this is worth- wlax conference gets rid of their conference tournament (i think that still means there is an autobid), citing cost concerns: https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/college/women/mid-american-eliminating-conference-tournament-in-womens-lacrosse
wondering if others could follow, as a cost cutting measure. note this is 12 months ahead of time.
Makes sense. If you want to reduce exposure risk, you limit the number of games. IDK how it works in LAX, but conference tournaments are completely redundant in sports like Basketball. You proved who was better over the course of the regular season. Crown the regular season winner champ, send them to the NCAAT and be done with it.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on May 13, 2020, 03:56:47 pm
Post by: Checkmate on May 17, 2020, 04:32:24 pm
https://twitter.com/adamfinkelstein/status/1262118573889204224?s=21
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Post by: OldSeawolf on May 17, 2020, 05:14:04 pm
Olaniyi to Miami. It’ll be fun to see how he stacks up in 2021-22.
https://twitter.com/adamfinkelstein/status/1262118573889204224?s=21
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Who??
Post by: VA_Seawolf on May 17, 2020, 07:04:21 pm
Post by: guest369 on May 18, 2020, 02:02:57 pm
Santa Clara??? Really
Post by: SaltySeawolf on May 18, 2020, 03:32:42 pm
Foreman narrowed down his destinations; Cal, Iowa State and Santa Clara.
Santa Clara??? Really
It would be fitting if he chose Santa Clara and they bagged their season.
Post by: Checkmate on May 20, 2020, 02:41:04 pm
Let's see where Foreman ends up tomorrow. Imagine three power conference school players on our roster and we can't get by Hartford? In three attempts?
Post by: Checkmate on May 20, 2020, 05:52:33 pm
https://twitter.com/adamzagoria/status/1263224291421814789?s=21
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Post by: Checkmate on May 21, 2020, 12:07:11 pm
https://twitter.com/Makale_0/status/1263499792296140800?s=20
Post by: OldSeawolf on May 21, 2020, 12:22:51 pm
"Chuck" is headed to Cal.
https://twitter.com/Makale_0/status/1263499792296140800?s=20
Odd choice, given that some CA schools already have canceled Fall sports.
Now that our 3 "superstars" have all transferred out, and looking at where they've gone, I think Olaniyi probably has the best chance of success of the 3 at Miami given his athleticism. I think Garcia will get minutes (and maybe even start at Georgia) since the team is very young, but IMO, he's going to get eaten alive in the SEC; not tall enough, not quick enough. And Foreman will probably be a reserve; can't see him succeeding in the Pac12.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on May 21, 2020, 12:58:12 pm
I'd much rather keep them here in the AE, but as I've mentioned until we're in an A10 level conference or better, that's just not going to happen. Can't blame a kid for wanting to play in the P5. The gulf between them and the rest of D1 has just grown substantially.
Post by: Checkmate on May 23, 2020, 09:10:49 pm
https://twitter.com/HassanCeesay/status/1264359178988064775?s=20
Post by: Hammertime on May 24, 2020, 06:39:28 am
Ceesay is off to Campbellsville of the NAIA.
https://twitter.com/HassanCeesay/status/1264359178988064775?s=20
Ceesay was SB Bench guy, not a starter. Why is he leaving .
Post by: Tml on May 24, 2020, 08:03:51 am
Ceesay is off to Campbellsville of the NAIA.
https://twitter.com/HassanCeesay/status/1264359178988064775?s=20
Ceesay was SB Bench guy, not a starter. Why is he leaving .
He’s a Boals recruit who isn’t playing much?
Post by: SaltySeawolf on May 24, 2020, 03:26:35 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on May 24, 2020, 05:57:19 pm
What the "new normal" means in regards to transfers is that you can no longer red shirt anyone. You must bring in guys who are physically able to play right away and burn their freshman year up asap. It won't eliminate regular transfer who has to sit a year, but it will eliminate you school ever losing a grad transfer.
Very good point, Salty.
Post by: Moveitfred on May 24, 2020, 06:43:12 pm
What the "new normal" means in regards to transfers is that you can no longer red shirt anyone. You must bring in guys who are physically able to play right away and burn their freshman year up asap. It won't eliminate regular transfer who has to sit a year, but it will eliminate you school ever losing a grad transfer.
Unless dangling the option to transfer is part of the new game.
Let me just propose a What If?, and believe me I have no idea. But what if you have decided as a coach you're going to be the "transfer school" and you think that might be one edge you could have in getting better players.
Completely different situation, for sure, but as an example I know that your BIG basketball schools sit in living rooms and tell kids (and parents) that if you come to us and play for a year or two and you're ready for the NBA, we're going to groom you and help you get there. No need to feel bad and beg, that's what we're all about here and, in fact, we're going to tell you it's time to go.
What if SBU has decided they are going to tell kids (and parents), You come to SBU and give us a year or two, and if you can and want to transfer to a P5 or wherever and can even get a grad degree for free, we'll help you. That's what we're all about here.
Is getting a kid to stay honorably for 4 years and bleed red Wolf an old model? Going or gone the way of the bounce pass and mid-range bank shots? Maybe a revolving door of 1-2 year players is the new frontier and SBU is trying to be on the leading edge of that. SBU was pretty good the last couple of years, and Hartford looked poised to give UVM a run with their new lineup.
Listen, I'm just throwing nonsense at the wall, but why couldn't this scenario above be just as plausible as the other ideas here?
Post by: VA_Seawolf on May 25, 2020, 12:44:00 am
What the "new normal" means in regards to transfers is that you can no longer red shirt anyone. You must bring in guys who are physically able to play right away and burn their freshman year up asap. It won't eliminate regular transfer who has to sit a year, but it will eliminate you school ever losing a grad transfer.
Unless dangling the option to transfer is part of the new game.
Let me just propose a What If?, and believe me I have no idea. But what if you have decided as a coach you're going to be the "transfer school" and you think that might be one edge you could have in getting better players.
Completely different situation, for sure, but as an example I know that your BIG basketball schools sit in living rooms and tell kids (and parents) that if you come to us and play for a year or two and you're ready for the NBA, we're going to groom you and help you get there. No need to feel bad and beg, that's what we're all about here and, in fact, we're going to tell you it's time to go.
What if SBU has decided they are going to tell kids (and parents), You come to SBU and give us a year or two, and if you can and want to transfer to a P5 or wherever and can even get a grad degree for free, we'll help you. That's what we're all about here.
Is getting a kid to stay honorably for 4 years and bleed red Wolf an old model? Going or gone the way of the bounce pass and mid-range bank shots? Maybe a revolving door of 1-2 year players is the new frontier and SBU is trying to be on the leading edge of that. SBU was pretty good the last couple of years, and Hartford looked poised to give UVM a run with their new lineup.
Listen, I'm just throwing nonsense at the wall, but why couldn't this scenario above be just as plausible as the other ideas here?
That's very much a model that can work for us. Will it be a new one that a school has never tried before? IDK, but I don't see the problem. If it gets us winning titles then I'm cool with it. Every year you lose a portion of the team to graduation anyway, so this really wouldn't be all that different. Until we're in a stronger conference, we'll have to roll with this.
Post by: Tml on May 25, 2020, 07:47:48 am
What the "new normal" means in regards to transfers is that you can no longer red shirt anyone. You must bring in guys who are physically able to play right away and burn their freshman year up asap. It won't eliminate regular transfer who has to sit a year, but it will eliminate you school ever losing a grad transfer.
Unless dangling the option to transfer is part of the new game.
Let me just propose a What If?, and believe me I have no idea. But what if you have decided as a coach you're going to be the "transfer school" and you think that might be one edge you could have in getting better players.
Completely different situation, for sure, but as an example I know that your BIG basketball schools sit in living rooms and tell kids (and parents) that if you come to us and play for a year or two and you're ready for the NBA, we're going to groom you and help you get there. No need to feel bad and beg, that's what we're all about here and, in fact, we're going to tell you it's time to go.
What if SBU has decided they are going to tell kids (and parents), You come to SBU and give us a year or two, and if you can and want to transfer to a P5 or wherever and can even get a grad degree for free, we'll help you. That's what we're all about here.
Is getting a kid to stay honorably for 4 years and bleed red Wolf an old model? Going or gone the way of the bounce pass and mid-range bank shots? Maybe a revolving door of 1-2 year players is the new frontier and SBU is trying to be on the leading edge of that. SBU was pretty good the last couple of years, and Hartford looked poised to give UVM a run with their new lineup.
Listen, I'm just throwing nonsense at the wall, but why couldn't this scenario above be just as plausible as the other ideas here?
Great post. I think the downside is twofold. One, kids only play a year together, two tops. But that seems to be happening anyway. Two, it seems to make the recruiting job tougher because you need to secure a new flock of 4-8 players every year. That may just be the way it is, unless they are required to sign a 4 year commitment letter, which few would do and it may be against the NCAA rules.
Post by: OldSeawolf on May 25, 2020, 08:45:25 am
Post by: Checkmate on May 28, 2020, 08:25:06 pm
https://twitter.com/antochefu/status/1266163258425331712?s=21
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Post by: Hammertime on May 29, 2020, 09:49:17 am
Ochefu is following Almonacy and Long to SNHU. I’m fairly sure he’ll do well there.
https://twitter.com/antochefu/status/1266163258425331712?s=21
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I had very high hopes for Ochefu when Bolas recruited him. He has High Major genes in his DNA, but he never materialized. Was that on the coaches, would he have progressed better had he gone to Duke, Virginia, NC etc.... ?
Post by: Checkmate on June 11, 2020, 12:25:08 pm
https://twitter.com/goodmanhoops/status/1271114394865410048?s=21
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Post by: Hammertime on June 11, 2020, 12:54:04 pm
Welcome NJIT!
https://twitter.com/goodmanhoops/status/1271114394865410048?s=21
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Good, now maybe SB can finally get out of this bottom dweller conference.
Post by: OldSeawolf on June 11, 2020, 01:05:50 pm
Welcome NJIT!
https://twitter.com/goodmanhoops/status/1271114394865410048?s=21
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Good move for them (a lot less travel) and good for conference. They were good a couple of years ago, and built themselves a nice stadium, if memory serves correct. Extra 2 games; no bye weeks now, so easy to accommodate. Of course, AE may be hedging their bets on future defections, by adding them.
Post by: Checkmate on June 11, 2020, 01:28:21 pm
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Post by: Checkmate on June 11, 2020, 03:13:46 pm
It’s a no brainer for NJIT. The AE has its warts but it’s better than going to Kennesaw State, Lipscomb, et al. If you’re going to be in a one-bid league, at least have it be local.
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Now somebody who claims to be the A-Sun commissioner says that Goodman's tweet is inaccurate. "More to come."
https://twitter.com/ASUNCommish
Post by: VA_Seawolf on June 11, 2020, 05:12:29 pm
It’s a no brainer for NJIT. The AE has its warts but it’s better than going to Kennesaw State, Lipscomb, et al. If you’re going to be in a one-bid league, at least have it be local.
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Now somebody who claims to be the A-Sun commissioner says that Goodman's tweet is inaccurate. "More to come."
https://twitter.com/ASUNCommish
I hope this is bogus. Nothing against NJIT, but we don't need to expand and they really don't add much to our conference. They fit academically more or less and the geography is good, but outside of that there's no need to make this move. If someone left sure, NJIT will be a great replacement once we finally get out of this conference, but until then I don't see the point.
Post by: Hammertime on June 12, 2020, 05:48:38 am
It’s a no brainer for NJIT. The AE has its warts but it’s better than going to Kennesaw State, Lipscomb, et al. If you’re going to be in a one-bid league, at least have it be local.
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Now somebody who claims to be the A-Sun commissioner says that Goodman's tweet is inaccurate. "More to come."
https://twitter.com/ASUNCommish
I hope this is bogus. Nothing against NJIT, but we don't need to expand and they really don't add much to our conference. They fit academically more or less and the geography is good, but outside of that there's no need to make this move. If someone left sure, NJIT will be a great replacement once we finally get out of this conference, but until then I don't see the point.
Maybe that is the plan. NJIT enters the AE and SB goes into the CAA for all sports.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on June 12, 2020, 09:12:49 am
Post by: Chairman of the Board on June 12, 2020, 12:55:31 pm
It’s a no brainer for NJIT. The AE has its warts but it’s better than going to Kennesaw State, Lipscomb, et al. If you’re going to be in a one-bid league, at least have it be local.
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Now somebody who claims to be the A-Sun commissioner says that Goodman's tweet is inaccurate. "More to come."
https://twitter.com/ASUNCommish
I hope this is bogus. Nothing against NJIT, but we don't need to expand and they really don't add much to our conference. They fit academically more or less and the geography is good, but outside of that there's no need to make this move. If someone left sure, NJIT will be a great replacement once we finally get out of this conference, but until then I don't see the point.
Maybe that is the plan. NJIT enters the AE and SB goes into the CAA for all sports.
https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/college/men/njit-to-join-america-east-leave-atlantic-sun-conference
Post by: guest369 on June 12, 2020, 01:34:25 pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on June 12, 2020, 05:23:32 pm
If I’m being optimistic, maybe this opens the door for one of the schools (aka us) to GTFO of the America East
Realignment moves are often sudden and catch you by surprise. So if somebody knew something, adding NJIT as a backfill would be smart, but I don't think that's what's happening. Not yet anyway. I also feel like if anyone left it would be Vermont first. We're better by every metric, but they've actually been winning on the court. I could see the A10 as a landing spot for them (or us honestly) if they left.
I say drop all talk of joining the CAA. That's a lateral move and a stupid one with JMU half way out the door to FBS practically. Hell, I bet if anything we could take Towson/Delaware from the CAA and bring football in-house to the AE if we wanted to. There's some deep instability brewing in that conference.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on June 12, 2020, 06:23:33 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on June 12, 2020, 09:32:41 pm
https://twitter.com/AmericaEast/status/1271517844979646465?s=20
I think this is a good move for all. NJIT is a highly ranked academic institution, they have a real nice, new stadium, and they will recruit better playing in Northeast. I'm assuming they will be eligible for the tournament immediately since they've been D1 already for several years.
I don't think we're going anywhere in the near term, with SUNY budgets going to be in the crapper. As already stated, moving to CAA is a waste for the effort involved. I'm hoping we can shoot for the A-10, in a couple of years, when budgets are hopefully restored and we lick this Covid thing.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on June 13, 2020, 03:20:00 am
Post by: OldSeawolf on June 13, 2020, 07:15:20 am
The move is good, but I question why it was made. We didn't need to add anyone.
Plain and simple. NJIT tried to get into AE before and was rejected. It makes much more sense for them than traveling to FL for games. For AE, it's economics and it's insurance against defections (namely, SBU and UVM) and the possible demise of the league. Of course, with sports and budgets up in the air, I don't think these defections will happen for awhile, at least in the case of SBU.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on June 13, 2020, 08:21:10 am
Post by: SaltySeawolf on June 13, 2020, 09:06:07 am
Post by: guest369 on June 13, 2020, 07:46:54 pm
I don’t know what the procedure to leave conferences is like, but I hope that Shawn is doing the hard work behind the scenes.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on June 13, 2020, 10:24:59 pm
Post by: Checkmate on June 30, 2020, 08:53:37 pm
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Post by: OldSeawolf on July 01, 2020, 02:45:42 pm
Per Jeff Borzello, Chef is now headed to Delaware rather than Southern NH.
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Rather strange, no? Delaware was a stronger team than we were last season. Unless they graduated/lost a bunch of players, Chef will be a bench player at best. He's probably kicking himself that he led the charge leaving SBU.
Post by: Hammertime on July 01, 2020, 04:33:03 pm
Per Jeff Borzello, Chef is now headed to Delaware rather than Southern NH.
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Rather strange, no? Delaware was a stronger team than we were last season. Unless they graduated/lost a bunch of players, Chef will be a bench player at best. He's probably kicking himself that he led the charge leaving SBU.
You never know. New coach. New players. New atmosphere. Ochefu has the strength and size to be a really good mid-major BB player. He just didn't have the confidence and to make that turn.
Post by: OldSeawolf on July 01, 2020, 06:08:22 pm
Post by: ibosbu on July 17, 2020, 12:10:14 pm
“ America East is postponing fall sport competitions, source tells
@TheAthletic
. Winter sports unaffected at this time. The hope is to play fall sports in the spring.”
Post by: OldSeawolf on July 17, 2020, 01:48:35 pm
https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1284150868309422080?s=20
“ America East is postponing fall sport competitions, source tells
@TheAthletic
. Winter sports unaffected at this time. The hope is to play fall sports in the spring.”
If in fact, Fall Sports are actually going to be played in the Spring, I would think that this is going to overwhelm athletics departments. Very tough task.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on July 18, 2020, 03:41:11 am
https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1284150868309422080?s=20
“ America East is postponing fall sport competitions, source tells
@TheAthletic
. Winter sports unaffected at this time. The hope is to play fall sports in the spring.”
If in fact, Fall Sports are actually going to be played in the Spring, I would think that this is going to overwhelm athletics departments. Very tough task.
Covid will still be around in the spring. Best to just cancel fall sports all together. It'll suck, but it is what it is.
Post by: Checkmate on November 23, 2020, 03:36:02 pm
http://go.uvm.edu/lambpistons
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Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 24, 2020, 10:32:53 am
https://nypost.com/2020/11/23/rutgers-mens-basketball-2020-season-preview-predictions/
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21. Rutgers
Steve Pikiell performed a miracle at Stony Brook. His work at Rutgers has been even better.
Post by: Checkmate on November 24, 2020, 10:39:55 pm
Lowell's an early 14-point dog against San Francisco on a neutral floor. I know they haven't practiced much, but I think Noel's the best player on the floor, and Lowell didn't fly cross country to play it. I'd take all those points.
Post by: Checkmate on November 25, 2020, 06:07:09 pm
Wish I bet the ML but did take them ATS
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Post by: Checkmate on December 01, 2020, 10:59:15 am
Makale Foreman played a team-high 35 minutes in Cal's win over Nicholls State last night, putting up six points, six boards and five assists. Through three games – in true Chuck fashion – he's 9 for 28 from the field (.321), including 6 for 21 from deep (.286).
No sign of Jeff Otchere with UTRGV just yet due to injury.
Post by: Checkmate on December 01, 2020, 06:35:23 pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on December 02, 2020, 04:38:46 pm
Andrew Garcia with a team-high 22 points in 23 minutes off the bench for Georgia in their 85-75 win over FAMU on Sunday. 6 for 8 from the field, 10 for 11 from the line.
Makale Foreman played a team-high 35 minutes in Cal's win over Nicholls State last night, putting up six points, six boards and five assists. Through three games – in true Chuck fashion – he's 9 for 28 from the field (.321), including 6 for 21 from deep (.286).
No sign of Jeff Otchere with UTRGV just yet due to injury.
Good to hear they're playing well. It's nuts how this team just completely imploded back in March as the world was going to hell. We'd be the clear favorites had we been able to keep all of those guys here. Latimer too. I couldn't even tell you who is on our roster now other than Gueye.
Post by: Checkmate on December 04, 2020, 11:22:45 pm
Post by: Hammertime on December 05, 2020, 04:48:21 am
I want to see how these guys gel and play this year before making and harsh criticism, but my gut feeling is telling me something just isn't right with Ford.
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 05, 2020, 07:59:49 am
I am curious. Does anyone here believe that Geno Ford has what it takes to recruit high-level mid-major players? I mean. Coach Boals and Pikiell had connections and good players came to SB, and for the most part, stayed. My take on Geno Ford going forward is, he will only recruit the leftovers that other low-level teams don't want or transfers from other low-level D1 teams. The mass exodus that occurred after the end of the season last year was a sign that something is off with this coaching squad, and players don't like it here anymore.
I want to see how these guys gel and play this year before making and harsh criticism, but my gut feeling is telling me something just isn't right with Ford.
Hammer, the college landscape has changed big time. Lower-level mid-majors like SBU will score an occasional winner that is missed by the bigger colleges; that will continue. But with transfer rules loosening in favor of the college-athlete, anyone of quality will be one and done at schools like SBU. These types of kids will use SBU as a stepping stone to a higher level college in subsequent years. Although it's too early to tell yet, a guy like JRod could transfer at the end of the year if he has a big year at SBU this year. Kids all have the dream of playing professionally (whether it's realistic or not), and the NCAA is now giving them the latitude to play in the best league they can play in, in lieu of paying these kids, for maximum exposure. Free agency on steriods has now begun. No reflection on Geno, IMO. Garcia and Elijah can certainly compete at a higher level, although Garcia minutes early on (except for one game) is way diminished. Makale getting the minutes big time at Cal. Garcia leaving got everyone else thinking, and that's when the dominoes started to fall, IMO.
Post by: P5hope on December 05, 2020, 09:31:55 am
Post by: guest410 on December 05, 2020, 01:20:27 pm
I am curious. Does anyone here believe that Geno Ford has what it takes to recruit high-level mid-major players? I mean. Coach Boals and Pikiell had connections and good players came to SB, and for the most part, stayed. My take on Geno Ford going forward is, he will only recruit the leftovers that other low-level teams don't want or transfers from other low-level D1 teams. The mass exodus that occurred after the end of the season last year was a sign that something is off with this coaching squad, and players don't like it here anymore.
I want to see how these guys gel and play this year before making and harsh criticism, but my gut feeling is telling me something just isn't right with Ford.
One of the first players Boals reached out to when he moved to Ohio, Alex Antetokounmpo. Sound familiar? Yea, the youngest of the five brothers. He was a 3-star recruit who was leaning towards Ohio before deciding to go pro after HS. And don't forget. D'Angelo Russell and a few other Brooklyn Nets players showed up to an SBU game in 2019. That's not happening with Geno.
Post by: guest410 on December 13, 2020, 05:15:23 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 13, 2020, 07:47:58 pm
Post by: Checkmate on December 13, 2020, 10:52:53 pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on December 14, 2020, 02:08:24 am
I am curious. Does anyone here believe that Geno Ford has what it takes to recruit high-level mid-major players? I mean. Coach Boals and Pikiell had connections and good players came to SB, and for the most part, stayed. My take on Geno Ford going forward is, he will only recruit the leftovers that other low-level teams don't want or transfers from other low-level D1 teams. The mass exodus that occurred after the end of the season last year was a sign that something is off with this coaching squad, and players don't like it here anymore.
I want to see how these guys gel and play this year before making and harsh criticism, but my gut feeling is telling me something just isn't right with Ford.
One of the first players Boals reached out to when he moved to Ohio, Alex Antetokounmpo. Sound familiar? Yea, the youngest of the five brothers. He was a 3-star recruit who was leaning towards Ohio before deciding to go pro after HS. And don't forget. D'Angelo Russell and a few other Brooklyn Nets players showed up to an SBU game in 2019. That's not happening with Geno.
If we were getting NBA players at our games, why am I just now hearing about this? That's big ****** news and shows how much we've fallen if that's no longer happening.
Post by: Hammertime on December 14, 2020, 05:17:20 am
I am curious. Does anyone here believe that Geno Ford has what it takes to recruit high-level mid-major players? I mean. Coach Boals and Pikiell had connections and good players came to SB, and for the most part, stayed. My take on Geno Ford going forward is, he will only recruit the leftovers that other low-level teams don't want or transfers from other low-level D1 teams. The mass exodus that occurred after the end of the season last year was a sign that something is off with this coaching squad, and players don't like it here anymore.
I want to see how these guys gel and play this year before making and harsh criticism, but my gut feeling is telling me something just isn't right with Ford.
One of the first players Boals reached out to when he moved to Ohio, Alex Antetokounmpo. Sound familiar? Yea, the youngest of the five brothers. He was a 3-star recruit who was leaning towards Ohio before deciding to go pro after HS. And don't forget. D'Angelo Russell and a few other Brooklyn Nets players showed up to an SBU game in 2019. That's not happening with Geno.
If we were getting NBA players at our games, why am I just now hearing about this? That's big ****** news and shows how much we've fallen if that's no longer happening.
Yup, D'Angelo Russel was sitting right in front of me on the floor seats the entire game. It is stuff like that that is why SB should always be looking for a name coach. Russel wasn't there because of Geno, that I can reassure you.
Even after a few years, that name coach departs to a power conference, it is still a huge recognition for SB to have him for that time. Other good assistants wouldn't mind starting out at SB because of the history of recruiting good players and with the hopes of moving up as Pikiel and Boles did.
I'm sorry guys but I have every reason to believe that Geno Ford is a dud and he will not be successful at SB. His time at Bradley University will rear its ugly head out again ..
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 14, 2020, 10:16:58 am
Elijah at the center of Jim Larranaga's outburst about timing of the transfer rule. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/30503888/miami-hurricanes-men-hoops-coach-jim-larranaga-blasts-timing-potential-transfer-rule-change
Welcome to the beginning of the Wild West of the NCAA! I tend to agree with his argument though. Probably better for Elijah if he plays this year, if he has any aspirations of playing in Europe afterwards.
Post by: Checkmate on December 16, 2020, 05:26:12 pm
Elijah’s a go at Miami. https://twitter.com/goodmanhoops/status/1339332711077588997?s=21Elijah at the center of Jim Larranaga's outburst about timing of the transfer rule. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/30503888/miami-hurricanes-men-hoops-coach-jim-larranaga-blasts-timing-potential-transfer-rule-change
Welcome to the beginning of the Wild West of the NCAA! I tend to agree with his argument though. Probably better for Elijah if he plays this year, if he has any aspirations of playing in Europe afterwards.
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Post by: OldSeawolf on December 21, 2020, 09:51:30 pm
Post by: guest410 on December 21, 2020, 11:19:44 pm
Lowell wins. Lowell wins. They shot the lights out against Vermont tonight, and UVM played very small most of the night. Gotta think they bounce back tomorrow, although I’d welcome a hyped-up Riverhawk team here next week.
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Post by: Checkmate on December 22, 2020, 09:47:07 am
I watched the 2nd half, and UML is legit. UVM definitely misses Lamb, and is beatable, as you reported.
They played without two bigs – Davis and Murphy – who were out with back injuries. Per the Burlington Free Press, Davis is day to day, and Murphy is week to week.
Post by: ry1nik on December 23, 2020, 09:17:33 pm
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html
Post by: guest369 on December 23, 2020, 09:59:41 pm
Post by: Checkmate on December 23, 2020, 10:47:54 pm
This is a first...the AEC is the weakest D1 conference out of 31. It’s been hurting for a while but never this bad.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html
It's not going to get any better either. No non-conference games hurt us big time. Last year, UVM played five teams inside the RPI top 100 before conference play began, and they'll win those games occasionally. We had four and lost four, but it still helps the RPI to get steamrolled by a juggernaut. This year, you look at the Big Sky, which is right above us ... Montana lost to teams ranked 36th, 46th and 82nd, and beat a solid Washington team at 114. There are other examples too.
Although now that I look at it, it's saying we have a better non-conference win percentage and better overall SOS than the Big Sky. I demand we be ranked 30th!
Post by: VA_Seawolf on December 24, 2020, 02:32:48 am
This is a first...the AEC is the weakest D1 conference out of 31. It’s been hurting for a while but never this bad.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html
It's not going to get any better either. No non-conference games hurt us big time. Last year, UVM played five teams inside the RPI top 100 before conference play began, and they'll win those games occasionally. We had four and lost four, but it still helps the RPI to get steamrolled by a juggernaut. This year, you look at the Big Sky, which is right above us ... Montana lost to teams ranked 36th, 46th and 82nd, and beat a solid Washington team at 114. There are other examples too.
Although now that I look at it, it's saying we have a better non-conference win percentage and better overall SOS than the Big Sky. I demand we be ranked 30th!
Yikes....
I'll bang the same old "we need to GTFO out of the AE" drum again, but really, this year is such an anomaly with the virus and everything that I wouldn't necessarily put too much stock in the results this year. There are going to be some lean years ahead for this conference and its programs, but I wouldn't overreact to this year. We'll get better. If anything this probably just means the usual doormats like Bing and Maine are just worse this year than normal.
Post by: Hammertime on December 24, 2020, 04:37:26 am
This is a first...the AEC is the weakest D1 conference out of 31. It’s been hurting for a while but never this bad.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html
It's not going to get any better either. No non-conference games hurt us big time. Last year, UVM played five teams inside the RPI top 100 before conference play began, and they'll win those games occasionally. We had four and lost four, but it still helps the RPI to get steamrolled by a juggernaut. This year, you look at the Big Sky, which is right above us ... Montana lost to teams ranked 36th, 46th and 82nd, and beat a solid Washington team at 114. There are other examples too.
Although now that I look at it, it's saying we have a better non-conference win percentage and better overall SOS than the Big Sky. I demand we be ranked 30th!
I've been saying for years. SB should have pushed hard to join the CAA in all sports but I got the pitchfork thrown at me from people telling me it is only a lateral, why bother.
With Geno Ford and a bunch of transfers on this team, SB belongs in the AE conference, for BB at least. The girls Lax absolutely should move on and out to a more respectable conference. Maybe the Big10 will one day accept these girls..
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 24, 2020, 08:56:43 am
This is a first...the AEC is the weakest D1 conference out of 31. It’s been hurting for a while but never this bad.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html
It's not going to get any better either. No non-conference games hurt us big time. Last year, UVM played five teams inside the RPI top 100 before conference play began, and they'll win those games occasionally. We had four and lost four, but it still helps the RPI to get steamrolled by a juggernaut. This year, you look at the Big Sky, which is right above us ... Montana lost to teams ranked 36th, 46th and 82nd, and beat a solid Washington team at 114. There are other examples too.
Although now that I look at it, it's saying we have a better non-conference win percentage and better overall SOS than the Big Sky. I demand we be ranked 30th!
Agree that the lack of non-conf games hurt the AE. This is one ranking. FYI, Kenpom, which I put more stock into, has us ranked 24th out of 32 conferences.
Post by: guest410 on December 24, 2020, 12:59:07 pm
This is a first...the AEC is the weakest D1 conference out of 31. It’s been hurting for a while but never this bad.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html
It's not going to get any better either. No non-conference games hurt us big time. Last year, UVM played five teams inside the RPI top 100 before conference play began, and they'll win those games occasionally. We had four and lost four, but it still helps the RPI to get steamrolled by a juggernaut. This year, you look at the Big Sky, which is right above us ... Montana lost to teams ranked 36th, 46th and 82nd, and beat a solid Washington team at 114. There are other examples too.
Although now that I look at it, it's saying we have a better non-conference win percentage and better overall SOS than the Big Sky. I demand we be ranked 30th!
I've been saying for years. SB should have pushed hard to join the CAA in all sports but I got the pitchfork thrown at me from people telling me it is only a lateral, why bother.
With Geno Ford and a bunch of transfers on this team, SB belongs in the AE conference, for BB at least. The girls Lax absolutely should move on and out to a more respectable conference. Maybe the Big10 will one day accept these girls..
Women's Lax is regarded as one of the ten best in the nation, but get screwed come tournament time because they're an AE team. It's bullshit. How that program became top tier, from a school like this is insane, and Spallina is a damn great coach and recruiter.
As y'all know, SBU tried going to CAA and Hofstra's AD shut it down for reasons that to this day are dumb. I said it at some point on here that SBU needs to go CAA and someone said it was a lateral move and suggested it was a stupid comment. But it's not. The CAA is a better conference in literally every sport. Plus, it would be nice to see all Stony Brook teams play under the same conference (aside from Women's Tennis who play in the Missouri Valley Conference 'MVC').
Post by: ry1nik on December 24, 2020, 01:32:09 pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on December 24, 2020, 02:09:35 pm
You don't gain anything as far as positive exposure or likelihood of making the Big Dance by hopping from one one-bid conference to another. The CAA isn't like it was 15 years ago where it could send 2-3 teams to the Dance. We'd have tougher competition for that single bid with worse travel than we have now. Hate on the AE all you want, but until we can get into the A10 (the level of conference we should be targeting) The AE makes sense for us. With a good coach there's no reason we can't dominate this league and make it to the Big Dance more often than not. Vermont has dominated us as of late, but it's not impossible to change that.
The CAA also has it's own issues. It too has the internal strife of football schools vs basketball schools (Hosftra and Northeastern both got in because they had football, but then both proceeded to drop football ;D ) , northern vs southern schools, plus JMU is clearly going to be out the door soon to FBS and then what will come after that? William and Mary would be a better fit in the Patriot League too. What then? Elon could hop back to the SoCon, and before you know it you just left the AE for a sinking ship. The CAA has some serious internal issues nobody wants to talk about. The AE may not be great, but it's incredibly stable for the level of conference that it is. All the schools (Hartford being the exception) share the distinction of being well regarded public schools in their respective states with us being the best one. Plus travel is much better. Do you really think UNC Wilmington and College of Charleston enjoy sending their team(s) all the way up to Boston to play Northeastern and vice versa? For a one bid league with a crap TV deal and no money? I'd take the ESPN deal we have for the added exposure over whatever the hell that joke of a TV deal the CAA negotiated a year or so ago. It's just as likely Delaware and Towson hop back over here to the AE if anything.
A10, FBS, or bust. Anything else isn't even worth considering. FBS might have to be put on hold for a while, but there's no reason for SH to not be pushing us for A10 membership. The bottom quarter of that conference is a joke and we'd be far better than any of those teams. The A10 is a solid 2-3 bid conference annually getting as many as 5 back in 2013 I believe. That's where we need to go.
Post by: guest410 on December 24, 2020, 04:09:18 pm
I stand by my prior comments on the CAA being a lateral move.
You don't gain anything as far as positive exposure or likelihood of making the Big Dance by hopping from one one-bid conference to another. The CAA isn't like it was 15 years ago where it could send 2-3 teams to the Dance. We'd have tougher competition for that single bid with worse travel than we have now. Hate on the AE all you want, but until we can get into the A10 (the level of conference we should be targeting) The AE makes sense for us. With a good coach there's no reason we can't dominate this league and make it to the Big Dance more often than not. Vermont has dominated us as of late, but it's not impossible to change that.
The CAA also has it's own issues. It too has the internal strife of football schools vs basketball schools (Hosftra and Northeastern both got in because they had football, but then both proceeded to drop football ;D ) , northern vs southern schools, plus JMU is clearly going to be out the door soon to FBS and then what will come after that? William and Mary would be a better fit in the Patriot League too. What then? Elon could hop back to the SoCon, and before you know it you just left the AE for a sinking ship. The CAA has some serious internal issues nobody wants to talk about. The AE may not be great, but it's incredibly stable for the level of conference that it is. All the schools (Hartford being the exception) share the distinction of being well regarded public schools in their respective states with us being the best one. Plus travel is much better. Do you really think UNC Wilmington and College of Charleston enjoy sending their team(s) all the way up to Boston to play Northeastern and vice versa? For a one bid league with a crap TV deal and no money? I'd take the ESPN deal we have for the added exposure over whatever the hell that joke of a TV deal the CAA negotiated a year or so ago. It's just as likely Delaware and Towson hop back over here to the AE if anything.
A10, FBS, or bust. Anything else isn't even worth considering. FBS might have to be put on hold for a while, but there's no reason for SH to not be pushing us for A10 membership. The bottom quarter of that conference is a joke and we'd be far better than any of those teams. The A10 is a solid 2-3 bid conference annually getting as many as 5 back in 2013 I believe. That's where we need to go.
Spoke to a couple of Delaware sources recently, and one almost every day, the school is very happy with the CAA in terms of basketball and football. They have zero plans of changing conferences even if offered.
The rest of what you pointed out though makes sense in certain aspects such as the TV deal, JMU looking to jump ship, but A10 Basketball would eat SBU alive. At least given the current roster and coaching staff. IF Pikell were still here, then yes, the school would have a chance at A10 because he is a good coach, recruits well and builds up the okay recruits into great players. Even Boals had some of that in him. But GeNO? Football and Basketball here at stuck with **** coaches.
Post by: guest369 on December 24, 2020, 04:55:07 pm
Post by: guest410 on December 24, 2020, 05:24:50 pm
The Foreman-Olaniyi-Garcia-Yeboah SBU team would compete well in the A10. And if they were in the A10, maybe they wouldn't have defected.
Yeboah was never going to stay for that fifth year. Even before Boals left he was talking about either going pro or transferring. Whether it be A10 or not, he wasn't feeling connected to the place. Pikell offered that.
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 24, 2020, 11:04:22 pm
Post by: guest410 on December 28, 2020, 05:17:16 pm
Post by: guest369 on December 28, 2020, 05:19:20 pm
Post by: guest410 on December 28, 2020, 05:37:11 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 28, 2020, 06:35:04 pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on December 28, 2020, 07:35:04 pm
yes, looked just like it. whittenburg to charles, i think. or was it thurl bailey.
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 28, 2020, 08:49:33 pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on December 28, 2020, 09:00:53 pm
that drexler team with benny anders? he was just as good as drexler. and was olajuwon there too? phi slamma jamma?
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 28, 2020, 09:18:19 pm
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/houston/1983.html
I think NC state beat MJ in the ACC tourn thT year
Post by: guest410 on December 28, 2020, 10:24:07 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 28, 2020, 10:34:45 pm
Post by: Checkmate on January 02, 2021, 09:18:54 pm
Not writing off Vermont yet but ... they don’t scare me. Five points from preseason first teamer Stef Smith.
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Post by: Checkmate on January 16, 2021, 01:01:50 pm
At Bucknell, Latimer had 9 and 11 points in a back to back against Lafayette. The Bison are 0-4.
Otchere has 10 blocks and nine fouls in two games for UTRGV, both absolute blowouts against D-I noob Dixie State and D-II St. Mary’s (TX).
Elsewhere, Penn State hasn’t played in two weeks, but Sam Sessoms (Bingo) made a good impression prior to the hiatus, scoring in double digits in all seven games he’s played, including a season-high 17 in their last contest.
Anthony Lamb was taken sixth overall in this week’s G League draft by the Canton Charge. I don’t really get how the draft works but I guess that’s good.
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Post by: OldSeawolf on January 16, 2021, 01:20:16 pm
Post by: Hammertime on January 16, 2021, 01:48:54 pm
Interesting info, Checkmate. Gotta wonder if any these guys are questioning their decisions, especially since they haven’t been able to play in front of large crowds. Although I haven’t seen him play, I think Garcia is the one guy who is really holding his own. I’ve seen Elijah play 3 times with Miami, and he pretty much looked like a fish out of water.
Elijah cant do anything against the bigs in the ACC
Post by: P5hope on January 16, 2021, 05:48:13 pm
Post by: Checkmate on January 16, 2021, 06:25:40 pm
Maine 30
It’s Maine of course, but I don’t think UVM will go down quietly.
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Post by: OldSeawolf on March 01, 2021, 08:47:35 am
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1366383489994620931?s=20
Post by: Hammertime on March 01, 2021, 09:04:15 am
Surprising news, IMO. Will Brown let go at Albany:
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1366383489994620931?s=20
Damn!!!! Huge mistake for UA. This is SB time to pick up a really good coach. He should have been SB HC years ago. A long Island guy too!!
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 01, 2021, 09:36:25 am
https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/Will-Brown-dismissed-as-UAlbany-basketball-coach-15988049.php
i hate speculation but there may be more to this story...
Post by: guest410 on March 01, 2021, 09:46:40 am
Post by: ry1nik on March 01, 2021, 10:05:42 am
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 01, 2021, 10:09:01 am
agreed with both. this feels like the wrong move for the great pains, and is very surprising.
https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/Will-Brown-dismissed-as-UAlbany-basketball-coach-15988049.php
i hate speculation but there may be more to this story...
It'll never happen, but I'd hire Brown in a heartbeat at SBU. He has major Long Island roots - he's a Miller Place HS grad (all county Bball player there), and had a great career at Dowling DII (if you guys remember that defunct school). I recall that he stayed at Albany after his NCAA run due to his wife's upstate roots, after being courted elsewhere - he certainly could be in the A10 (or higher) by now. The guy knows how to win the big game.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 01, 2021, 10:33:43 am
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 01, 2021, 11:03:38 am
i guess that makes it less surprising (?)
Post by: guest419 on March 01, 2021, 11:07:22 am
Surprising news, IMO. Will Brown let go at Albany:
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1366383489994620931?s=20
This isnt a surprise. he didnt have any more time on his contract.
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 01, 2021, 11:43:38 am
was it really mutual? https://ualbanysports.com/news/2021/3/1/ualbany-head-mens-basketball-coach-will-brown-and-ualbany-athletics-agree-to-mutually-part-ways.aspx
i guess that makes it less surprising (?)
My guess, is that after 20 years, Brown asked UA admin to spin it that way. If he saved and invested wisely, he should be able to retire, if that's what he wants. Circa $ 400K in Albany is like $ 550K down here. Maybe he can become a coaching consultant, and help us out :)
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 01, 2021, 12:23:18 pm
Post by: Hammertime on March 01, 2021, 01:08:52 pm
yeah, plus he gets a state pension i assume.
Actually, it is my understanding contract coaches dont get Define benefit pensions. Probably just a 401B, or something like that.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 01, 2021, 04:15:33 pm
here are the other openings: https://www.basketballforum.com/threads/2021-coaching-carousel.689904/page-10#post-15345654
Quote
Openings so far: Albany, Boston College, Fordham, Penn State, Northern Illinois, New Mexico, Denver, Tennessee-Martin (coach died), UT-Rio Grande Valley (coach died), Texas State, Portland...Goodman also said Indiana State is probably going to open too.
Armchair opinion on what to watch for by firing, retiring or the current coach jumping ship to another opening to avoid being fired: Miami, Minnesota, Indiana, Iowa State, Kansas State, DePaul, Middle Tennessee, Illinois State, Central Connecticut, Washington, Vanderbilt, South Carolina, Texas A&M-Corpus Christi
UTRGV is otchere's home, right?
Post by: guest410 on March 01, 2021, 04:20:11 pm
thanks.
here are the other openings: https://www.basketballforum.com/threads/2021-coaching-carousel.689904/page-10#post-15345654QuoteOpenings so far: Albany, Boston College, Fordham, Penn State, Northern Illinois, New Mexico, Denver, Tennessee-Martin (coach died), UT-Rio Grande Valley (coach died), Texas State, Portland...Goodman also said Indiana State is probably going to open too.
Armchair opinion on what to watch for by firing, retiring or the current coach jumping ship to another opening to avoid being fired: Miami, Minnesota, Indiana, Iowa State, Kansas State, DePaul, Middle Tennessee, Illinois State, Central Connecticut, Washington, Vanderbilt, South Carolina, Texas A&M-Corpus Christi
UTRGV is otchere's home, right?
Yes. The coach died at the age of, I believe, 55, a couple of weeks ago.
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 04, 2021, 03:58:15 pm
Post by: guest410 on March 04, 2021, 04:18:47 pm
In addition to Juwan White and TPP of SBU entering the transfer portal (mentioned in another thread), add Cameron Healy of Albany (he'd be a nice pickup for SBU), and Diego Willis (NJIT), who I thought had a nice outside shot.
And Meekness Payne of UNH
https://verbalcommits.com/players/meekness-payne
Post by: guest410 on March 06, 2021, 04:38:38 pm
Post by: Hammertime on March 06, 2021, 05:09:16 pm
UMass Lowell knocked off UMBC and will now play in the AE tournament championship. WOW.
Shock the world??? Bring on Virginia!!
Post by: guest410 on March 06, 2021, 06:14:27 pm
Per Jeff Goodman:
One America East coach just texted me this:
“THIS is why you don’t let your top 2 seeds not play for 2 weeks leading into a conference tournament. Hartford and Lowell.”
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1368337401211478022
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 06, 2021, 06:15:17 pm
Post by: guest419 on March 06, 2021, 06:33:40 pm
UMass Lowell knocked off UMBC and will now play in the AE tournament championship. WOW.
Shock the world??? Bring on Virginia!!
SH and GF will probably say they lost to the team that made it to the finals so the season wasnt that bad.
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 08, 2021, 12:44:54 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 08, 2021, 08:36:12 pm
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Post by: OldSeawolf on March 08, 2021, 09:38:44 pm
Post by: guest419 on March 08, 2021, 10:16:41 pm
Post by: Hammertime on March 09, 2021, 05:37:44 am
Good for Almonacy. Always liked him, and thought he didn’t get deserved playing time, but kept a great attitude. He went D2 from sbu; glad to see he made it back and became their #1 scorer.
Other very good local High school athletes will look at this and decide not to play basketball at SBU. This school is sinking deep into the dark days again. I called it a couple of years ago when Boals departed and Coch P got a new contract extension.
Post by: Checkmate on March 09, 2021, 08:35:03 am
But ... he goes to SNHU, gets all the minutes he wants, builds confidence, and last night looked like a completely different dude than what we saw. Way way more aggressive, and it looked like he filled out a little bit too.
Gotta be real happy for the kid. Maybe Ohio State vs App State in the first round so it’s Key vs. Almonacy.
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Post by: guest419 on March 09, 2021, 03:29:47 pm
I remember at the preseason scrimmage his freshman year he looked like the best player on the floor. And then when games arrived, he was a completely different player – unsure of himself, going through the motions, etc. And let’s be fair here: I don’t think any of us were terribly disappointed to have Almonacy’s roster spot open when he decided to transfer.
But ... he goes to SNHU, gets all the minutes he wants, builds confidence, and last night looked like a completely different dude than what we saw. Way way more aggressive, and it looked like he filled out a little bit too.
Gotta be real happy for the kid. Maybe Ohio State vs App State in the first round so it’s Key vs. Almonacy.
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So he is a coachable kid who others but not Boals saw potential in and they coached him with their ability matching his. Good for them. Good for him. He is a great story.
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 10, 2021, 11:19:09 am
Post by: Checkmate on March 10, 2021, 04:17:28 pm
5'2" UMBC guard Darnell Rogers (3 star guy) just entered into the transfer portal. Interestingly, both TPP and Juwon White's name are no longer listed as transferees in the portal.
TPP and White are there—just further down on the complete list. We're headed north of 1,000, everybody!
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 10, 2021, 04:51:35 pm
Post by: guest410 on March 10, 2021, 05:24:20 pm
Cameron Healy, 6-3, 190, G, RS Jr., Albany (3.2 ppg)
Will Kondrat, 6-7, 200, F, Jr., Albany (Didn’t play)
Antonio Rizzuto, 6-3, 195, G, Jr., Albany (12.5 ppg)
Wol Maiwen, 6-4, 185, G, Fr., Maine (1.3 ppg – 7 games)
Precious Okoh, 6-1, 190, G, Soph., Maine (4.8 ppg – 8 games)
Veljko Radakovic, 6-9, 210, F, Soph., Maine (2.3 ppg – 7 games)
Randell Wiel, 6-4, 195, G, Fr., Maine (Didn’t play) – DAYTONA STATE
Mykhailo Yagodin, 6-5, 195, G, Jr., Maine (4.3 ppg – 6 games)
Diego Willis, 6-4, 180, G, Jr., NJIT (5.9 ppg)
Leighton Elliott-Sewell, 6-6, 185, F, Jr., Stony Brook (2.6 ppg)
Tavin Pierre Philippe, 6-3, 185, G, Soph., Stony Brook (1.6 ppg)
Juwan White, 6-2, 185, G, Jr., Stony Brook (0.3 ppg – 6 games)
Charlie Russell Jr., 6-8, 200, F, Soph., UMass Lowell (0.0 ppg – 1 game)
Arkel Lamar, 6-5, 235, F, Grad, UMBC (3.3 ppg) – UMKC
Darnell Rogers, 5-2, 150, G, Sr.,UMBC (9.8 ppg)
Marque Maultsby, 6-3, 165, G, Jr., UNH (6.5 ppg)
Meekness Payne, 6-8, 200, F, Jr., UNH (3.0 ppg)
Sean Sutherlin, 6-5, 200, G, Sr., UNH (12.8 ppg, 9.3 rpg: 2019)
Bernie Andre, 6-6, 210, F, Grad, Vermont (11.2 ppg) – FIU
https://watchstadium.com/college-basketballs-2020-21-transfer-list-10-26-2020/
Post by: guest419 on March 10, 2021, 05:35:09 pm
Post by: Hammertime on March 11, 2021, 05:29:44 am
https://twitter.com/MAlmonacy2016/status/1369758951949152261?s=20
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 11, 2021, 08:21:52 am
https://www.google.com/search?q=app+state+football+student+section&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiJn5raqajvAhX5Vd8KHf5HBUMQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=app+state+football+student+section&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzoCCAA6BAgAEEM6BggAEAUQHjoECAAQGFCg8QJY0YsDYLSNA2gCcAB4AYABcYgBywqSAQQxNi4ymAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=bhhKYImwCPmr_Qb-j5WYBA&bih=931&biw=1920&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS822US822#imgrc=sQigx5Wnnc8YpM
Post by: guest410 on March 11, 2021, 10:08:00 am
The 6-foot-2 senior guard averaged 13.6 points per game this past season."
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1370025280778080257
Post by: Checkmate on March 11, 2021, 12:54:09 pm
- Miami still alive in the ACC.
- Latimer's season is done at Lehigh: 6.1 ppg in 10 games
- 14 games, 8 minutes per for Ochefu at Delaware. They're done also.
- Otchere and Garcia are both out there tonight to try to keep their seasons alive. Odds are not terrific for either.
Post by: guest419 on March 11, 2021, 09:11:09 pm
yeah he may have left regardless of the coach... app state has students stick around for weekends: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4b/a4/c4/4ba4c4f4433d4986e093ce396dba95d7.jpg
https://www.google.com/search?q=app+state+football+student+section&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiJn5raqajvAhX5Vd8KHf5HBUMQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=app+state+football+student+section&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzoCCAA6BAgAEEM6BggAEAUQHjoECAAQGFCg8QJY0YsDYLSNA2gCcAB4AYABcYgBywqSAQQxNi4ymAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=bhhKYImwCPmr_Qb-j5WYBA&bih=931&biw=1920&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS822US822#imgrc=sQigx5Wnnc8YpM
It was under Boals. he didnt like the kid. Pikel recruited him.
Post by: ibosbu on March 11, 2021, 11:40:36 pm
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 12, 2021, 09:17:54 am
Post by: Checkmate on March 12, 2021, 01:46:27 pm
Imo foolish those 3 seniors turned down a great chance to get to the tourney which i think they would have. To be role players on avg to below avg p5 teams i hope gueye doesn’t take the bait. Elijah is the only move that made some sense.
Just thinking about the swaps we made, taking position and impact into mind as best as I can ...
Olaniyi >> Greene (and I love Greene)
Garcia >> Habwe
Foreman ≤ JFR
Otchere < Sayles
Latimer > LES (position mismatch)
Ochefu = Diallo
In a year where the AE was light, I gotta think we'd be playing as the favorite tomorrow. Woulda been fun.
Post by: guest419 on March 13, 2021, 01:23:47 pm
Imo foolish those 3 seniors turned down a great chance to get to the tourney which i think they would have. To be role players on avg to below avg p5 teams i hope gueye doesn’t take the bait. Elijah is the only move that made some sense.
treat kids poorly and they will want to leave. Its simple.
Post by: Hammertime on March 13, 2021, 01:27:22 pm
Have a stroke. He is clearly a more mobile Q. He also looks to be more patient and scans the field well. He is looks to be more accurate with his passes.
Coach P. Let go of your Napolean attitude and give Zamot a shot.
Post by: guest419 on March 13, 2021, 01:27:45 pm
Imo foolish those 3 seniors turned down a great chance to get to the tourney which i think they would have. To be role players on avg to below avg p5 teams i hope gueye doesn’t take the bait. Elijah is the only move that made some sense.
When a HC isnt respected and the kids see him treat other players like garbage they look to leave. SB would have won the conference with those players staying and every one knows that. Its the coach. Hard to think of a worse HC hire in cbb in the past few years at any school knowing the history of the coach.
Post by: Hammertime on March 13, 2021, 01:31:47 pm
Imo foolish those 3 seniors turned down a great chance to get to the tourney which i think they would have. To be role players on avg to below avg p5 teams i hope gueye doesn’t take the bait. Elijah is the only move that made some sense.
When a HC isnt respected and the kids see him treat other players like garbage they look to leave. SB would have won the conference with those players staying and every one knows that. Its the coach. Hard to think of a worse HC hire in cbb in the past few years at any school knowing the history of the coach.
Yup, that appears to he the problem as of late with SB.
Post by: Hammertime on March 13, 2021, 01:37:11 pm
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Post by: SBU 2010 on March 13, 2021, 04:37:29 pm
I would offer our job to Dougher tomorrow if I was running things by the way.
Post by: Checkmate on March 13, 2021, 06:35:13 pm
This is in no way an endorsement of Geno.
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Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 13, 2021, 08:47:26 pm
Post by: SBU 2010 on March 13, 2021, 10:21:47 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 14, 2021, 09:12:01 am
Post by: guest410 on March 16, 2021, 11:36:42 am
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 16, 2021, 12:41:21 pm
meaning we officially have no bigs, other than christie, even on the radar let alone on the roster for next year (does sayles have an extra covid year?).
Post by: guest410 on March 16, 2021, 01:55:52 pm
Post by: Hammertime on March 16, 2021, 02:11:44 pm
Albany now has 7 players in the portal
That is to be expected when a 20 year veteran coach departs. But when an assistant coach becomes HC coach and the majority of the players depart. There is a big problem problem. When UA finds their new HC, he will most likely be recruiting a new team anyways
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 16, 2021, 02:50:43 pm
also C peter turay committed to UNO.
meaning we officially have no bigs, other than christie, even on the radar let alone on the roster for next year (does sayles have an extra covid year?).
Everyone in NCAA was given an extra year of eligibility, after enduring the Covid season. Mo, Sayles, Habwe can all in theory return. Question is will they play beyond their grad years and if so, will they return to SBU or transfer?
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 16, 2021, 03:15:29 pm
especially given, how much easier it is to transfer these days, AND the fact that players think they'll get better looks in a 5th year elsewhere (see 2019/2020 SB).
add in the early tourney exits and the annual exodus, not looking great.
hoping there are some bigs on the radar that aren't appearing on VC. we've won exactly ONE game of import during the modern era (pikiell/boals/ford, past 15 years) and it was ALL our star big. the other 14 seasons is just missing threes.
Post by: sbugold on March 16, 2021, 04:22:36 pm
also C peter turay committed to UNO.
meaning we officially have no bigs, other than christie, even on the radar let alone on the roster for next year (does sayles have an extra covid year?).
This guy is immediately eligible and has some NY area ties. Check him out, and GO GET HIM!!
https://verbalcommits.com/players/chris-efretuei
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 16, 2021, 05:00:32 pm
note i also liked otchere's film, a lot.
Post by: guest419 on March 16, 2021, 06:25:50 pm
Albany now has 7 players in the portal
That is to be expected when a 20 year veteran coach departs. But when an assistant coach becomes HC coach and the majority of the players depart. There is a big problem problem. When UA finds their new HC, he will most likely be recruiting a new team anyways
Albany hired their new coach yesterday or the day before.
Post by: guest419 on March 16, 2021, 06:33:40 pm
Post by: guest410 on March 16, 2021, 06:42:39 pm
Other than Mo Alex and Jordan I really couldnt tell you who was on the team this year. I didnt watch much. The athletic dept turned me off a year ago. SH may smile if he walks past you. RE has never said hello and a horrible product on the court. We gave up our season tickets. I live in Nassau and i love college hoops. i may be a Hofstra season ticket holder when things open up again. The few games over the years i've gone to there they have at least pretended to be happy to see you. And there bldg looks better than SBUs which is filthy, downstairs. Where you get the food at SB, on the lower level it looks like the bldg is 100 yrs old. Stuff stored there. Peeled paint. There is no pride in there apearance.
I covered the Long Island Nets G-League finals game at SBU a few years back. They didn't mind the locker room (Nets used the Home one, idk if there's a difference at IFCU), but said everything else about the place was either terrible or subpar. Someone in the organization was complaining about the "suites" and how it was essentially one open suite with a "door" to it but that wouldn't stop anyone from walking right in, which did happen. Trajan Langdon and Tiago Splitter were sitting a in a suite, eating and drinking while watching the game, and a fan who had suite access, but not that suite, just walked right in between them and started talking. Both were visibly upset and had the person removed.
Post by: ibosbu on March 17, 2021, 07:25:48 pm
Albany hired their new coach yesterday or the day before.
Albany has a new coach.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1371603332666687488
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwayne_Killings
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 17, 2021, 07:56:29 pm
Quote
UAlbany lacrosse coach wants to get rid of NCAA transfer portal
“You get rid of the portal and you go back to the old way of doing it,” Marr said on a Zoom call Wednesday. “Hold kids accountable for why they’re transferring. Am I transferring for legitimate reasons? If a kid comes to me and says, 'Coach, I’m not fitting in with the team' or 'Academically I want to do something different,' then I would release him. But if a kid comes and like, well, he’s disgruntled because he thinks he should be playing or that type of stuff, or reasons that he sees different than you, then you have the ability to hold it over him.”
“For this to be his third school, I don’t know,” Marr said. “To me, it’s not TD’s fault that he has this opportunity. I blame the people who make those decisions. I just think it’s wrong. … To see the amount of transferring that’s going on, and again, the fact that Denver is on a trimester (academic calendar) and they can pull a kid in during the season, that to me, it’s really over the top. I don’t think that should be able to be legal. Once the season starts, I don’t think you should be able to shuffle people in and out of your lineup.”
Using basketball as an example — there are already more than 560 names on the VerbalCommits Division I transfer list for 2021 — Marr said the portal has given college sports more of a professional feel and turned athletes into free agents.
“You’re giving kids an easy way out as opposed to working through a problem or working through adversity or learning how to deal with their teammates or learning how to deal with a coaching staff,” Marr continued. “They just get to leave. So they run away from their problems. You’re just giving kids an opportunity to run away from their problems. That’s just my opinion.”
Post by: guest419 on March 17, 2021, 08:17:22 pm
thanks- speaking of ualbaNy, i posted this in the lacrosse thread but its relevant here too: http://fanlax.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=290&t=2674QuoteUAlbany lacrosse coach wants to get rid of NCAA transfer portal
“You get rid of the portal and you go back to the old way of doing it,” Marr said on a Zoom call Wednesday. “Hold kids accountable for why they’re transferring. Am I transferring for legitimate reasons? If a kid comes to me and says, 'Coach, I’m not fitting in with the team' or 'Academically I want to do something different,' then I would release him. But if a kid comes and like, well, he’s disgruntled because he thinks he should be playing or that type of stuff, or reasons that he sees different than you, then you have the ability to hold it over him.”
“For this to be his third school, I don’t know,” Marr said. “To me, it’s not TD’s fault that he has this opportunity. I blame the people who make those decisions. I just think it’s wrong. … To see the amount of transferring that’s going on, and again, the fact that Denver is on a trimester (academic calendar) and they can pull a kid in during the season, that to me, it’s really over the top. I don’t think that should be able to be legal. Once the season starts, I don’t think you should be able to shuffle people in and out of your lineup.”
Using basketball as an example — there are already more than 560 names on the VerbalCommits Division I transfer list for 2021 — Marr said the portal has given college sports more of a professional feel and turned athletes into free agents.
“You’re giving kids an easy way out as opposed to working through a problem or working through adversity or learning how to deal with their teammates or learning how to deal with a coaching staff,” Marr continued. “They just get to leave. So they run away from their problems. You’re just giving kids an opportunity to run away from their problems. That’s just my opinion.”
The portal isn't turning kids into free agents. Its letting them leave a program thats not a good fit for them, and make the most of their brief college career. Free agents get paid. If the coach is the problem, as it is at SB in my opinion then they should be allowed to run from that problem.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 17, 2021, 08:39:45 pm
Post by: guest410 on March 17, 2021, 08:41:47 pm
Albany hired their new coach yesterday or the day before.
Albany has a new coach.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1371603332666687488
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwayne_Killings
Great hire for Albany. Killings is young, only 39, but has been a coach since 2003!
2003–2006 Charlotte Hornets (assistant)
2006–2009 Temple (asst. dir. of basketball op.)
2009–2010 NBA D-League (admin)
2010–2011 Boston University (assistant)
2011–2016 Temple (assistant)
2016–2018 Connecticut (assistant)
2018–2021 Marquette (asst./associate HC)
2021–present Albany
Post by: Hammertime on March 18, 2021, 06:12:20 am
thanks- speaking of ualbaNy, i posted this in the lacrosse thread but its relevant here too: http://fanlax.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=290&t=2674QuoteUAlbany lacrosse coach wants to get rid of NCAA transfer portal
“You get rid of the portal and you go back to the old way of doing it,” Marr said on a Zoom call Wednesday. “Hold kids accountable for why they’re transferring. Am I transferring for legitimate reasons? If a kid comes to me and says, 'Coach, I’m not fitting in with the team' or 'Academically I want to do something different,' then I would release him. But if a kid comes and like, well, he’s disgruntled because he thinks he should be playing or that type of stuff, or reasons that he sees different than you, then you have the ability to hold it over him.”
“For this to be his third school, I don’t know,” Marr said. “To me, it’s not TD’s fault that he has this opportunity. I blame the people who make those decisions. I just think it’s wrong. … To see the amount of transferring that’s going on, and again, the fact that Denver is on a trimester (academic calendar) and they can pull a kid in during the season, that to me, it’s really over the top. I don’t think that should be able to be legal. Once the season starts, I don’t think you should be able to shuffle people in and out of your lineup.”
Using basketball as an example — there are already more than 560 names on the VerbalCommits Division I transfer list for 2021 — Marr said the portal has given college sports more of a professional feel and turned athletes into free agents.
“You’re giving kids an easy way out as opposed to working through a problem or working through adversity or learning how to deal with their teammates or learning how to deal with a coaching staff,” Marr continued. “They just get to leave. So they run away from their problems. You’re just giving kids an opportunity to run away from their problems. That’s just my opinion.”
The portal isn't turning kids into free agents. Its letting them leave a program thats not a good fit for them, and make the most of their brief college career. Free agents get paid. If the coach is the problem, as it is at SB in my opinion then they should be allowed to run from that problem.
I am torn on this subject. One side of me agrees that a student/athlete should be free to move about the college spectrum at will. But the other side of me says that once he is committed to a college, he/she should have to sit out 1 year before playing. Like the old days.
I could see this being very frustrating for a college coach to try and balance his roster with kids that are constantly coming and going. That is just plain wrong. You need to be responsible with your choices in life and deal with adversity. Like the UA coach alluded to. He is correct. These kids today think they could do whatever they want in life when in the real world, we all know that is not how it works. I also agree with you. If a college coach sucks and a rising star athlete is not getting the proper coaching in the sport he/she is playing in, and that coach is possibly holding that athlete back from making it into the pros, then yes. That athlete should be allowed to leave and go into the transfer proto call list. That happened when Stacey Bidell was at SB. Bidell had an opportunity to play in the NFL, but was overlooked by many teams because he had no film on him catching the ball out of the backfield. Bidell told me that personally when his tryout days in the NFL came to an end. He regretted transferring to SBU because of coach P and SB lack of grooming him to be a pro-ready athlete and missed opportunities in the NFL.. I believe what he told me is true.
So yeah. This is something the NCAA needs to fix and fix in a hurry. I dont recall having major issues in the past when athletes would transfer but had to sit out a season.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 18, 2021, 07:58:54 am
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 18, 2021, 08:58:27 am
thanks- speaking of ualbaNy, i posted this in the lacrosse thread but its relevant here too: http://fanlax.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=290&t=2674QuoteUAlbany lacrosse coach wants to get rid of NCAA transfer portal
“You get rid of the portal and you go back to the old way of doing it,” Marr said on a Zoom call Wednesday. “Hold kids accountable for why they’re transferring. Am I transferring for legitimate reasons? If a kid comes to me and says, 'Coach, I’m not fitting in with the team' or 'Academically I want to do something different,' then I would release him. But if a kid comes and like, well, he’s disgruntled because he thinks he should be playing or that type of stuff, or reasons that he sees different than you, then you have the ability to hold it over him.”
“For this to be his third school, I don’t know,” Marr said. “To me, it’s not TD’s fault that he has this opportunity. I blame the people who make those decisions. I just think it’s wrong. … To see the amount of transferring that’s going on, and again, the fact that Denver is on a trimester (academic calendar) and they can pull a kid in during the season, that to me, it’s really over the top. I don’t think that should be able to be legal. Once the season starts, I don’t think you should be able to shuffle people in and out of your lineup.”
Using basketball as an example — there are already more than 560 names on the VerbalCommits Division I transfer list for 2021 — Marr said the portal has given college sports more of a professional feel and turned athletes into free agents.
“You’re giving kids an easy way out as opposed to working through a problem or working through adversity or learning how to deal with their teammates or learning how to deal with a coaching staff,” Marr continued. “They just get to leave. So they run away from their problems. You’re just giving kids an opportunity to run away from their problems. That’s just my opinion.”
The portal isn't turning kids into free agents. Its letting them leave a program thats not a good fit for them, and make the most of their brief college career. Free agents get paid. If the coach is the problem, as it is at SB in my opinion then they should be allowed to run from that problem.
Sort of disagree. This is like free agency, and is the NCAA's concession to college athletes in lieu of allowing them to get paid for playing, endorsements, etc. Certainly hurts mid-majors a lot more than P5's.
Post by: guest419 on March 18, 2021, 03:06:18 pm
thanks- speaking of ualbaNy, i posted this in the lacrosse thread but its relevant here too: http://fanlax.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=290&t=2674QuoteUAlbany lacrosse coach wants to get rid of NCAA transfer portal
“You get rid of the portal and you go back to the old way of doing it,” Marr said on a Zoom call Wednesday. “Hold kids accountable for why they’re transferring. Am I transferring for legitimate reasons? If a kid comes to me and says, 'Coach, I’m not fitting in with the team' or 'Academically I want to do something different,' then I would release him. But if a kid comes and like, well, he’s disgruntled because he thinks he should be playing or that type of stuff, or reasons that he sees different than you, then you have the ability to hold it over him.”
“For this to be his third school, I don’t know,” Marr said. “To me, it’s not TD’s fault that he has this opportunity. I blame the people who make those decisions. I just think it’s wrong. … To see the amount of transferring that’s going on, and again, the fact that Denver is on a trimester (academic calendar) and they can pull a kid in during the season, that to me, it’s really over the top. I don’t think that should be able to be legal. Once the season starts, I don’t think you should be able to shuffle people in and out of your lineup.”
Using basketball as an example — there are already more than 560 names on the VerbalCommits Division I transfer list for 2021 — Marr said the portal has given college sports more of a professional feel and turned athletes into free agents.
“You’re giving kids an easy way out as opposed to working through a problem or working through adversity or learning how to deal with their teammates or learning how to deal with a coaching staff,” Marr continued. “They just get to leave. So they run away from their problems. You’re just giving kids an opportunity to run away from their problems. That’s just my opinion.”
The portal isn't turning kids into free agents. Its letting them leave a program thats not a good fit for them, and make the most of their brief college career. Free agents get paid. If the coach is the problem, as it is at SB in my opinion then they should be allowed to run from that problem.
Sort of disagree. This is like free agency, and is the NCAA's concession to college athletes in lieu of allowing them to get paid for playing, endorsements, etc. Certainly hurts mid-majors a lot more than P5's.
No doubt it hurts midmajors bigtime. guys like GF's days are numbered because they cant keep their kids. horrible coachingstyle.
Post by: Moveitfred on March 19, 2021, 07:43:26 am
Mike Almonacy, channeling his inner SBU, goes...brace yourselves...1-14 from the floor, 1-13 from three. Gulp.
Chairman: it could be worse.
Post by: Checkmate on March 19, 2021, 07:49:35 am
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Post by: Moveitfred on March 19, 2021, 07:54:01 am
Play-by-play guy saw fit to call it "a brick."
Ouch. Tough night.
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 19, 2021, 08:07:11 am
His final 3 attempt to win the game was admittedly rushed and hit the backboard like a dead chicken thrown against a barn. (Yeah, I've thrown a dead chicken against a barn. I know).
Play-by-play guy saw fit to call it "a brick."
Ouch. Tough night.
I watched the last 10 minutes. Rallied back from 18 down to take a 6 (I think) point lead, just to blow it. Almonacy was a brick-layer for sure, but the team as a whole shot under 26% for the game, and still had a chance to win on the last possession! Not sure he has eligibility left, but wonder if he'll come back for another season.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 19, 2021, 10:00:03 am
After a dreadful first half, App St charges back to a commanding second half lead, then snatches defeat from the jaws of victory to go down in a play-in game.
Mike Almonacy, channeling his inner SBU, goes...brace yourselves...1-14 from the floor, 1-13 from three. Gulp.
Chairman: it could be worse.
::)
Post by: ibosbu on March 19, 2021, 11:47:10 pm
Post by: guest419 on March 20, 2021, 09:34:44 am
After a dreadful first half, App St charges back to a commanding second half lead, then snatches defeat from the jaws of victory to go down in a play-in game.
Mike Almonacy, channeling his inner SBU, goes...brace yourselves...1-14 from the floor, 1-13 from three. Gulp.
Chairman: it could be worse.
::)
Im happy for Mike Almoncy. He made his own way and had a great conference championship game.
Post by: Checkmate on March 20, 2021, 03:15:49 pm
The rest though, I've seen the ball moving, finding the open man, cuts, picks, rolls, penetration, etc. It's just sad. Watching SBU was a chore this winter. But the tournament's been great.
Really happy for Pikiell, and it was cool hearing Akwasi's name on the telecast too. And Boals later today. With these last two years, we have lost all the momentum from their tenures, and as long as Becker's at UVM, Odom's a UMBC, even Gallagher at Hartford making it work each year, I feel like we're just so far behind now.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 20, 2021, 04:57:05 pm
the four Ps
Post by: Moveitfred on March 20, 2021, 09:27:58 pm
Post by: guest419 on March 20, 2021, 09:49:45 pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 21, 2021, 12:38:22 am
Post by: guest419 on March 21, 2021, 10:12:39 am
So Pikiell, and Boals both win their first round games. Glad to see we can be a launching pad for coaching careers when we don't f**k up and give bad coaches like Ford bloated contracts.
GF got a 5 year deal out of the gate. SH is the architect of failure.
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 21, 2021, 06:11:51 pm
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Post by: Hammertime on March 21, 2021, 07:15:31 pm
If geno struggles next year with the same group we had this year any chance SH fires him?
Nope, not unless somebody comes up with about 1 Million Dollars to buy out GF remaining contract.
Post by: guest410 on March 21, 2021, 08:21:07 pm
If geno struggles next year with the same group we had this year any chance SH fires him?
Nope, not unless somebody comes up with about 1 Million Dollars to buy it GF remaining contract.
Well after next season it'll be roughly $720,000 but you're still right, no chance SBU can afford to eat that money while paying for another coach. Starting March 31, 2022, SBU can enter into extension talks, and have one year to the day to get them done, or to let him know they will not be extending the contract. If SBU truly wanted to keep GF around, they'd bang out an extension on April 1, 2022, if not, he's a lame-duck coach (which he is already).
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 21, 2021, 08:46:53 pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 21, 2021, 09:24:46 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 21, 2021, 09:26:05 pm
Post by: guest410 on March 21, 2021, 09:30:32 pm
Another major Pikiell choke. Up 10 late, he took the air out of the bill way too early. Minus the Hooley shot, reminded me so much of the Albany final where we blew the lead late. Still trouble winning the big one. Houston gave them every chance to win too.
Choke or not, he took his team to the tournament, won a game and came close to a Sweet 16. Pkiell deserves praise for that.
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 21, 2021, 09:37:31 pm
Post by: Accelerator on March 21, 2021, 10:14:10 pm
Post by: guest410 on March 21, 2021, 10:37:02 pm
You're telling me that Stony Brook can't find $720,000 to get rid of a dead-end coach no one wants around? $720,000 is not a lot of money!
That's exactly what I'm saying. Donors have been pulling away over the past few years given the state of the two biggest teams, and the single biggest donor is directly linked to Jefferey Epstein and even SBU is not desperate enough to take any more of his money. There's a reason why the new indoor practice facility was supposed to be named after him and now has no name at all. America East teams have announced big donations over the past couple of years, Maine redoing almost every athletic thing on campus, Bing with their new baseball/softball stadiums, Vermont with the new arena's, etc. SBU doesn't have that luck. No big-time donors to help save the school from the big bad, terrible coach.
Post by: Accelerator on March 21, 2021, 11:01:04 pm
Post by: guest410 on March 22, 2021, 10:02:18 am
At this rate, Stony Brook should be desperate enough to reach out to him and his billions of dollars. If Heilbron actually cut him off because of his Epstein ties, that's another disappointment from him. Just looking to keep his hands clean while football and basketball keep spiraling downwards. You simply do not do anything to jeopardize your richest donor - a basic rule - and Heilbron can't even follow that.
I think for once Heilbron made the right decision. SBU does not, and should not, want to be associated with Jeffrey Epstein, even if it costs them dearly with athletics. Heilbron needs to find the money literally anywhere else. He's a smooth talker with grand ideas, wonder why he's striking out left and right.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 22, 2021, 10:15:10 am
http://sbufan.createaforum.com/around-stony-brook/making-sb-better-idea-thread/
Post by: Hammertime on March 22, 2021, 11:05:22 am
At this rate, Stony Brook should be desperate enough to reach out to him and his billions of dollars. If Heilbron actually cut him off because of his Epstein ties, that's another disappointment from him. Just looking to keep his hands clean while football and basketball keep spiraling downwards. You simply do not do anything to jeopardize your richest donor - a basic rule - and Heilbron can't even follow that.
I think for once Heilbron made the right decision. SBU does not, and should not, want to be associated with Jeffrey Epstein, even if it costs them dearly with athletics. Heilbron needs to find the money literally anywhere else. He's a smooth talker with grand ideas, wonder why he's striking out left and right.
Because it really isn't that easy to find somebody who wants to give millions of Dollars back to their Alumni. SBU has a very high foreign population. Do they really care about SBU sports? Nope. Heilbron is not stupid. I've spoken to him many times over the years about this subject, and his hand are basically tied up trying to get money from the Government. Private donors are not so giving lately neither.
Post by: ibosbu on March 22, 2021, 12:48:47 pm
International students percentage:
Stony Brook 17%
Syracuse 19%
Michigan st 12.4%
Michigan 15%
Ohio st 11%
Duke 21.6%
UConn 14.1%
Post by: ibosbu on March 22, 2021, 12:55:58 pm
Believe me, I was rooting for him. Just a devastating and inexcusable loss. Taking air out of ball too early killed all momentum, and these iso’s as shot clock was running out, just pathetic coaching calls. Major flashbacks for me of our first four final games with sbu.
We saw both the good and bad side of Pikiell. Tremendous in building a program, sustaining good winning percentage, very likable, good recruiter etc etc. In game coaching decisions in high stake pressure games are still head scratching. Overall I wish he was still here.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 22, 2021, 12:58:49 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 22, 2021, 01:27:44 pm
Believe me, I was rooting for him. Just a devastating and inexcusable loss. Taking air out of ball too early killed all momentum, and these iso’s as shot clock was running out, just pathetic coaching calls. Major flashbacks for me of our first four final games with sbu.
We saw both the good and bad side of Pikiell. Tremendous in building a program, sustaining good winning percentage, very likable, good recruiter etc etc. In game coaching decisions in high stake pressure games are still head scratching. Overall I wish he was still here.
IBO, all your positive comments on Pikiell are spot on. I’ll add one additional one — excellent ambassador for the University. Unfortunately, in-game management is not one of his strong suits. Overall, I’m with you; I’d prefer if he was still here too.
Post by: ibosbu on March 22, 2021, 01:41:12 pm
iBO i happen to agree regarding intl students, and at the risk of putting words in another's mouth, i think he meant children of immigrants, not necessarily just foreigners. thoughts?
I will generalize and I know I may be wrong. Just my observation:
In my time at stony brook (2001-06), I noticed that it didn’t matter whether children of late 21st century immigrants (ie east and south Asian Americans students), or descendants of white setters, or descendants of African slaves... they all loved pro sports..Giants/Jets, Yankees/Mets, even the Knicks! And apathy towards college sports were same across all not just Asian students.
Now I 100% agree that parents of the Asian Americans or others recent first generation immigrants are not into collegiate sports but they are not into pro sports either, unlike their children.
If you look at other P5 schools with high Asian American student %, these students are really into the school spirit and follow their fb and bb program. In DMV, Asian students from Virginia and VA Tech root for their programs passionately even after graduation. Something is lacking at Stony Brook. Perhaps it’s the high commuters %, perhaps we just don’t have a good team that makes the ESPN regularly to feel proud of... Don’t know what it is.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 22, 2021, 01:57:00 pm
great discussion by the way. i just worry that the solution takes years and maybe even decades and we are losing time.
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 22, 2021, 02:29:52 pm
there's no right/wrong on this topic. just opinions. thank you for yours! 8)
great discussion by the way. i just worry that the solution takes years and maybe even decades and we are losing time.
As my kids can attest to, one of my favorite sayings is, “it always starts at the top”. Given that premise, we’ve had a changing of the guard, and we’ll see what McInnis brings to the table. Unfortunately, with Covid, she is limited in what she can currently do. Give it another year, and we can make an appropriate evaluation.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 22, 2021, 02:41:58 pm
Post by: pgajohnny97 on March 22, 2021, 04:39:07 pm
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 22, 2021, 05:38:26 pm
Post by: Hammertime on March 22, 2021, 06:02:42 pm
true. i definitely get the feeling she isnt the sports type. but will reserve judgment until we get out of this (will we get out of this?).
She's been SBU President for a few months now and no talk about SB athletic. What does that tell you about her priority for this University.
We all know Academics is and should always be the school's #1 priority, but a good president should always talk about every department in a positive manner. Even if it is all smoke and mirrors and Bill$hit. So far, I haven't heard anything about her direction and asperation with SB athletics.
Post by: ry1nik on March 22, 2021, 07:21:35 pm
Post by: guest419 on March 22, 2021, 07:31:22 pm
Post by: Hammertime on March 22, 2021, 08:22:22 pm
It would inappropriate for her to talk sports since the university (along with the nation and world) have been dealing with a generational crisis like Covid. Personally I would question her judgment if she did.
What are you talking about?? So, because of the plandemic, the President of SBU would be wrong to discuss the health of SB athletics, and her vision and aspirations going foward??? I say it would be reckless NOT to talk about the Helath of your University to the people who support it.
Post by: Accelerator on March 22, 2021, 11:28:43 pm
Rumor has it that was he made all of the players speak to SH so that he would get the job. IDO but the steady mass exodus of players may prove this may be very true. Shame on SH for letting that happen and signing a long term contract.
I believe it. Geno has long been a dirty man. The red flag was there when he tried to weasel his way out of paying the $1.2 million buyout he owed Kent State when he left for Bradley. He has a history of just being a scumbag.
https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Media/News-Releases/July-2013/Attorney-General-DeWine-and-Kent-State-University
Post by: Hammertime on March 23, 2021, 05:55:04 am
Rumor has it that was he made all of the players speak to SH so that he would get the job. IDO but the steady mass exodus of players may prove this may be very true. Shame on SH for letting that happen and signing a long term contract.
I believe it. Geno has long been a dirty man. The red flag was there when he tried to weasel his way out of paying the $1.2 million buyout he owed Kent State when he left for Bradley. He has a history of just being a scumbag.
https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Media/News-Releases/July-2013/Attorney-General-DeWine-and-Kent-State-University
And look at GF record at Bradly University. I posted this a while back about GF. He is a horrible coach.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geno_Ford
WOW. This guy is a creep.
Post by: ry1nik on March 23, 2021, 09:11:58 am
Post by: pgajohnny97 on March 23, 2021, 11:12:54 am
Post by: guest419 on March 23, 2021, 12:42:50 pm
GF advanced in the NIT two years in a row at Kent State. SH must have relied on that history when signing him.
And ignored the rest of his history.
Post by: guest410 on March 25, 2021, 09:56:21 am
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 25, 2021, 10:50:45 am
Post by: guest410 on March 25, 2021, 11:52:18 am
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 25, 2021, 12:00:08 pm
and by that, i mean we better get some bigs on the radar, pronto
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 25, 2021, 12:15:10 pm
Post by: guest419 on March 25, 2021, 12:17:41 pm
my opinion but it's time to focus on cultivating the next generation of players- kids who want to come and stay.
and by that, i mean we better get some bigs on the radar, pronto
I agree with you but its not going to happen while GF is here. Word is out on that guy.
Post by: Hammertime on March 25, 2021, 12:53:39 pm
Unlikely he returns but not impossible. Maybe geno can make a compelling case that he can come back win a title. There is so much more parity in cbb and the america east get to the tourney make a name for yourself that way.
Why would Elijah want to play for GF. You never want to go backward, only forward.
Post by: ibosbu on March 25, 2021, 01:34:41 pm
So long Miami, hello...... Unknown. Elijah Olaniyi is back in the transfer portal. https://247sports.com/college/miami/Article/Elijah-Olaniyi-transfer-portal-Miami-Hurricanes-basketball-163050023/
I don't understand the what can be the reason for him leaving Miami.. he started 18 games.. played 3rd most minutes. Gets to play against tough ACC opponents to prove himself. Playing for a good coach. I totally get leaving Stony Brook for Miami. Unless he will be starting for a blue blood program, why leave Miami?
Post by: ibosbu on March 25, 2021, 01:45:22 pm
^from twitter.. and whatever that means ???
Post by: guest410 on March 25, 2021, 01:51:30 pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 25, 2021, 03:15:11 pm
my opinion but it's time to focus on cultivating the next generation of players- kids who want to come and stay.
and by that, i mean we better get some bigs on the radar, pronto
ask and receive.
https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/maurice-vassell
160lb at 6'9" gives me a bit of pause....
Post by: Hammertime on March 25, 2021, 03:23:32 pm
my opinion but it's time to focus on cultivating the next generation of players- kids who want to come and stay.
and by that, i mean we better get some bigs on the radar, pronto
ask and receive.
https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/maurice-vassell
160lb at 6'9" gives me a bit of pause....
Pencil body. Glad GF is at least sending out offers to HS kids and just, not all Juco transfers.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 25, 2021, 03:35:23 pm
rodriguez is 8 inches shorter and 30lbs heavier.
Post by: ibosbu on March 25, 2021, 05:19:55 pm
looking at these two best coaching job rankings of CAA and AE respectively (even if we take with a grain of salt).. makes me wonder what could have been. CofC HC position is the most attractive in CAA. And even two years ago Stony Brook was considered to be the best coaching job in AE.. but we decided to go with Ford :'(
(https://s23455.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Conference-Chain-CAA-1.jpg)
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Post by: pgajohnny97 on March 26, 2021, 09:29:55 am
Post by: ibosbu on April 01, 2021, 12:53:26 pm
Post by: ibosbu on April 01, 2021, 01:02:41 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 04, 2021, 08:55:14 pm
Post by: guest410 on April 04, 2021, 09:06:14 pm
That UCLA/Gonzaga game was prob the 2nd best college hoops game, I can remember ever seeing in all my years. What a phenomenal game, end-to-end. What was the best game, you ask? The Kentucky/Duke game (Laettner shot) was my all-time best.
Saw the Suggs play live; holy ****, it was insane. Unbelievable game. Neither team let up, fought hard, dug deep, and gave it their all for both halves and OT. UCLA has every right to be upset but should hold their head high because damn, they outplayed the seeding and played so well... Grew up a UNC fan, and over the years, have studied Duke and Chrisitan Laettner. I've watched that shot probably 100-200 times in my life, and it's one of the first games that come to mind when someone says, "if you could go to any sports moments in history."
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 04, 2021, 09:32:10 pm
Post by: guest410 on April 04, 2021, 10:41:41 pm
Airturn, Laettner shot aside, if you haven’t watched that entire game, I suggest you do so. Absolutely amazing game. Suggs is an absolute stud, and after his “shot” I seriously wouldn’t be surprised if he goes #1 in the draft. And the kid is only a Freshman.
Oh, I've watched it numerous times. I think what people forget, or at least omit, is the Sean Woods running one-hander moments before Laettner's shot. Just a great game all around. Super high scoring, which is unusual for that late in the tournament... As for Suggs, he chose Gonzaga over other P5 teams in both basketball and football (Ohio State and Nebraska offered for FB, damn good QB). Mark Few hasn't had many 1 and done at Gonzaga, and I surely hope that doesn't change. But Suggs was the right fit for this team, the missing piece to the puzzle.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on April 05, 2021, 12:34:45 pm
Airturn, Laettner shot aside, if you haven’t watched that entire game, I suggest you do so. Absolutely amazing game. Suggs is an absolute stud, and after his “shot” I seriously wouldn’t be surprised if he goes #1 in the draft. And the kid is only a Freshman.
Oh, I've watched it numerous times. I think what people forget, or at least omit, is the Sean Woods running one-hander moments before Laettner's shot. Just a great game all around. Super high scoring, which is unusual for that late in the tournament... As for Suggs, he chose Gonzaga over other P5 teams in both basketball and football (Ohio State and Nebraska offered for FB, damn good QB). Mark Few hasn't had many 1 and done at Gonzaga, and I surely hope that doesn't change. But Suggs was the right fit for this team, the missing piece to the puzzle.
I'll be pulling for the Zags tonight and if they can't get it done tonight then they're likely never going to do so. Baylor is legit though. Will be an amazing game.
Post by: ibosbu on April 05, 2021, 03:01:27 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 05, 2021, 04:04:59 pm
Odom leaves UMBC for Utah State. Good for him. AE loses a good coach.
He's a really good coach, and deserves it, especially after the VA win. Probably fair to say now that Odom was looking for a BIG jump for his next job, and that's why he probably stayed at UMBC after the VA win. The AE is the minor leagues training ground for most of the other leagues.
Post by: ibosbu on April 05, 2021, 04:19:57 pm
Will Geno Ford’s next gig be a high Major or power program or is this his peak? With Oliniyi on board, this is the time to change my, and most of ours, opinion that extending his contract was a mistake. I hope he finds success soon and leaves us for higher paying job, which would mean we did good under him and probably danced.
Post by: Knicksbu99 on April 05, 2021, 05:06:42 pm
Post by: guest410 on April 05, 2021, 06:37:06 pm
Agreed. AE is surely a mini league for coaches. And I would love to have that headache for us. Which would mean we have an awesome successful coach... eyed by higher programs.
Will Geno Ford’s next gig be a high Major or power program or is this his peak? With Oliniyi on board, this is the time to change my, and most of ours, opinion that extending his contract was a mistake. I hope he finds success soon and leaves us for higher paying job, which would mean we did good under him and probably danced.
No P5/High Major AD in their right mind would hire Geno Ford at this point.
Post by: guest410 on April 05, 2021, 06:54:15 pm
Odom leaves UMBC for Utah State. Good for him. AE loses a good coach.
Since 2016, the AE has seen how many head coaches fired or hired away? I'm fairly new to AE stuff, only following since I got to SBU in '18 so feel free to fill in any missing names.
Steve Piekell - From SBU to Rutgers
Jeff Boals - From SBU to Ohio
Aki Thomas - Fired by UMBC
Ryan Odom - From UMBC to Utah State
Bob Walsh - Fired by Maine
Tommy Dempsey - Fired by Bing
Will Brown - Fired by Albany
Is that it, or am I missing anyone?
Post by: ibosbu on April 05, 2021, 09:54:21 pm
Odom leaves UMBC for Utah State. Good for him. AE loses a good coach.
Since 2016, the AE has seen how many head coaches fired or hired away? I'm fairly new to AE stuff, only following since I got to SBU in '18 so feel free to fill in any missing names.
Steve Piekell - From SBU to Rutgers
Jeff Boals - From SBU to Ohio
Aki Thomas - Fired by UMBC
Ryan Odom - From UMBC to Utah State
Bob Walsh - Fired by Maine
Tommy Dempsey - Fired by Bing
Will Brown - Fired by Albany
Is that it, or am I missing anyone?
Post by: guest419 on April 05, 2021, 11:18:25 pm
Odom leaves UMBC for Utah State. Good for him. AE loses a good coach.
Since 2016, the AE has seen how many head coaches fired or hired away? I'm fairly new to AE stuff, only following since I got to SBU in '18 so feel free to fill in any missing names.
Steve Piekell - From SBU to Rutgers
Jeff Boals - From SBU to Ohio
Aki Thomas - Fired by UMBC
Ryan Odom - From UMBC to Utah State
Bob Walsh - Fired by Maine
Tommy Dempsey - Fired by Bing
Will Brown - Fired by Albany
Is that it, or am I missing anyone?
That sounds about right i think. The quality of play had dropped a lot. It seems like GF just sends the team out onto the court to play street ball. Will Brown truly coached and he coached very well. Gallagher too.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on April 06, 2021, 01:52:04 am
Agreed. AE is surely a mini league for coaches. And I would love to have that headache for us. Which would mean we have an awesome successful coach... eyed by higher programs.
Will Geno Ford’s next gig be a high Major or power program or is this his peak? With Oliniyi on board, this is the time to change my, and most of ours, opinion that extending his contract was a mistake. I hope he finds success soon and leaves us for higher paying job, which would mean we did good under him and probably danced.
No P5/High Major AD in their right mind would hire Geno Ford at this point.
Hope he has a fluke year where we win the AE and upset someone in the tournament so a P5 school foolishly gives him way too much money and takes that hand grenade off our hands.
Post by: Hammertime on April 06, 2021, 05:54:17 am
Agreed. AE is surely a mini league for coaches. And I would love to have that headache for us. Which would mean we have an awesome successful coach... eyed by higher programs.
Will Geno Ford’s next gig be a high Major or power program or is this his peak? With Oliniyi on board, this is the time to change my, and most of ours, opinion that extending his contract was a mistake. I hope he finds success soon and leaves us for higher paying job, which would mean we did good under him and probably danced.
No P5/High Major AD in their right mind would hire Geno Ford at this point.
Or at any point. I dont care if SB wins the AE. No P5 school is going to hire GF. He cant recruit athletes out of HS. he relies on transfers.
Post by: Checkmate on April 06, 2021, 11:09:07 am
Agreed. AE is surely a mini league for coaches. And I would love to have that headache for us. Which would mean we have an awesome successful coach... eyed by higher programs.
Will Geno Ford’s next gig be a high Major or power program or is this his peak? With Oliniyi on board, this is the time to change my, and most of ours, opinion that extending his contract was a mistake. I hope he finds success soon and leaves us for higher paying job, which would mean we did good under him and probably danced.
No P5/High Major AD in their right mind would hire Geno Ford at this point.
Or at any point. I dont care if SB wins the AE. No P5 school is going to hire GF. He cant recruit athletes out of HS. he relies on transfers.
So does everyone now.
https://sports.yahoo.com/why-baylors-transfer-heavy-formula-offers-glimpse-of-the-future-063704592.html
Post by: guest419 on April 06, 2021, 04:16:24 pm
Agreed. AE is surely a mini league for coaches. And I would love to have that headache for us. Which would mean we have an awesome successful coach... eyed by higher programs.
Will Geno Ford’s next gig be a high Major or power program or is this his peak? With Oliniyi on board, this is the time to change my, and most of ours, opinion that extending his contract was a mistake. I hope he finds success soon and leaves us for higher paying job, which would mean we did good under him and probably danced.
No P5/High Major AD in their right mind would hire Geno Ford at this point.
Hope he has a fluke year where we win the AE and upset someone in the tournament so a P5 school foolishly gives him way too much money and takes that hand grenade off our hands.
The problem is SH would foolishly give GF an extention.
Post by: ibosbu on April 06, 2021, 06:50:18 pm
Post by: guest410 on April 06, 2021, 06:58:35 pm
Post by: ibosbu on April 06, 2021, 07:02:46 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 06, 2021, 07:13:56 pm
That’s a lot of IF’s there. When was the last time an AE team won a game in the tournament (that’s not rhetorical, quiet serious, I have no idea when it last happened). GF won’t lead a team to the promise land, not gonna happen. He’s not the type of coach to do it.
Umbc over VA in 2018. Vermont over Syracuse in 2005.
Post by: guest410 on April 06, 2021, 07:20:34 pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 06, 2021, 07:49:46 pm
and if we do- what does our record look like in the finals?
Post by: Accelerator on April 06, 2021, 08:18:23 pm
Pikes is still 10 times the coach Geno will ever be, but let’s not act like Pikes didn’t have his own share of flaws too.
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 06, 2021, 09:03:22 pm
Pikiell was a really good guy, great recruiter, great ambassador for the university, and despite his overall, was a marginal in-game coach, particularly in big games. Anyone who saw us lose 4 Finals (the BU and UA games in particular) and saw him blow a late 10-pt Rutgers lead against Houston in the 2nd round this year, would most certainly agree.
Post by: Accelerator on April 06, 2021, 10:51:01 pm
Post by: Hammertime on April 07, 2021, 05:22:12 am
I’m not a fan of Geno Ford. But if he takes us to the dance, and gets an upset win in the tournament, even by fluke, I don’t care if he gets a contract extension. I would love to get a win in the tournament. It will be priceless.
You should be very concerned if GF gets an extension on his contract. He sucks as an HC. If by a fluke, SB makes it to the big dance, that does not change the fact he is a terrible coach and athletes dont want to be here to play and get a good education. SBU needs a coach with chemistry. GF has neither.
I love SH. He is a good man and is very smart, but he made a mistake by allowing GF to con SH into hiring him as their HC.
Post by: ibosbu on April 07, 2021, 08:27:43 pm
Post by: Wolfie on April 10, 2021, 07:34:38 am
Odom leaves UMBC for Utah State. Good for him. AE loses a good coach.
Since 2016, the AE has seen how many head coaches fired or hired away? I'm fairly new to AE stuff, only following since I got to SBU in '18 so feel free to fill in any missing names.
Steve Piekell - From SBU to Rutgers
Jeff Boals - From SBU to Ohio
Aki Thomas - Fired by UMBC
Ryan Odom - From UMBC to Utah State
Bob Walsh - Fired by Maine
Tommy Dempsey - Fired by Bing
Will Brown - Fired by Albany
Is that it, or am I missing anyone?
That sounds about right i think. The quality of play had dropped a lot. It seems like GF just sends the team out onto the court to play street ball. Will Brown truly coached and he coached very well. Gallagher too.
Geno Ford was 4-1 against Will Brown.
Post by: guest419 on April 10, 2021, 10:01:52 am
Odom leaves UMBC for Utah State. Good for him. AE loses a good coach.
Since 2016, the AE has seen how many head coaches fired or hired away? I'm fairly new to AE stuff, only following since I got to SBU in '18 so feel free to fill in any missing names.
Steve Piekell - From SBU to Rutgers
Jeff Boals - From SBU to Ohio
Aki Thomas - Fired by UMBC
Ryan Odom - From UMBC to Utah State
Bob Walsh - Fired by Maine
Tommy Dempsey - Fired by Bing
Will Brown - Fired by Albany
Is that it, or am I missing anyone?
That sounds about right i think. The quality of play had dropped a lot. It seems like GF just sends the team out onto the court to play street ball. Will Brown truly coached and he coached very well. Gallagher too.
Geno Ford was 4-1 against Will Brown.
GF also lost to Lowell and Hartford and doesnt coach. The secret is out on this con artist.
Post by: Hammertime on April 10, 2021, 10:20:40 am
Odom leaves UMBC for Utah State. Good for him. AE loses a good coach.
Since 2016, the AE has seen how many head coaches fired or hired away? I'm fairly new to AE stuff, only following since I got to SBU in '18 so feel free to fill in any missing names.
Steve Piekell - From SBU to Rutgers
Jeff Boals - From SBU to Ohio
Aki Thomas - Fired by UMBC
Ryan Odom - From UMBC to Utah State
Bob Walsh - Fired by Maine
Tommy Dempsey - Fired by Bing
Will Brown - Fired by Albany
Is that it, or am I missing anyone?
That sounds about right i think. The quality of play had dropped a lot. It seems like GF just sends the team out onto the court to play street ball. Will Brown truly coached and he coached very well. Gallagher too.
Geno Ford was 4-1 against Will Brown.
GF also lost to Lowell and Hartford and doesnt coach. The secret is out on this con artist.
It doesnt matter anymore. He will be sitting on a ton of cash at the end of his contract.
Post by: Wolfie on April 10, 2021, 01:52:18 pm
Odom leaves UMBC for Utah State. Good for him. AE loses a good coach.
Since 2016, the AE has seen how many head coaches fired or hired away? I'm fairly new to AE stuff, only following since I got to SBU in '18 so feel free to fill in any missing names.
Steve Piekell - From SBU to Rutgers
Jeff Boals - From SBU to Ohio
Aki Thomas - Fired by UMBC
Ryan Odom - From UMBC to Utah State
Bob Walsh - Fired by Maine
Tommy Dempsey - Fired by Bing
Will Brown - Fired by Albany
Is that it, or am I missing anyone?
That sounds about right i think. The quality of play had dropped a lot. It seems like GF just sends the team out onto the court to play street ball. Will Brown truly coached and he coached very well. Gallagher too.
Geno Ford was 4-1 against Will Brown.
GF also lost to Lowell and Hartford and doesnt coach. The secret is out on this con artist.
Ryan Odom lost to Lowell and John Becker lost to Hartford. But your statement was that Will Brown truly coached. Obviously not as well in 4 of the 5 games vs Stony Brook. You can believe GF is a poor coach. Your opinion and maybe even a fair assessment. But calling him a con artist is over the top and deflects from your previous rationale.
Post by: guest410 on April 11, 2021, 06:58:00 pm
Post by: guest410 on April 12, 2021, 01:20:22 pm
Former Penn State interim HC Jim Ferry is the new HC at UMBC
Post by: Hammertime on April 12, 2021, 01:36:27 pm
https://twitter.com/UMBCAthletics/status/1381654954147000322
Former Penn State interim HC Jim Ferry is the new HC at UMBC
Welcome to the next Vermont boys!!
UMBC got themselves a really good coach who can recruit.
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 12, 2021, 02:31:57 pm
https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1381380420281974784
I wonder if the major players on UMBC that entered the Portal (Akin, Horvath, Rogers) will change their minds now.
Post by: guest410 on April 12, 2021, 04:08:43 pm
https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1381380420281974784
I wonder if the major players on UMBC that entered the Portal (Akin, Horvath, Rogers) will change their minds now.
Can't speak to their actions, but one player entered AFTER her was announced.
https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/keondre-kennedy
Post by: Checkmate on April 12, 2021, 04:45:12 pm
https://twitter.com/UMBCAthletics/status/1381654954147000322
Former Penn State interim HC Jim Ferry is the new HC at UMBC
Welcome to the next Vermont boys!!
UMBC got themselves a really good coach who can recruit.
I dunno. He wasn't given the permanent job at Penn State, he had very poor results at Duquesne, and while the two tournament appearances for LIU were great, it's not like he lit the world on fire there before. The numbers aren't everything, but they're something. And Ferry's track record isn't unlike Geno's.
Post by: guest410 on April 12, 2021, 06:09:45 pm
Post by: Checkmate on April 12, 2021, 07:14:48 pm
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1381648499704483840?s=20It’s weird. You see these other programs hemorrhaging some of their premier guys – Smith, Mills, Cooks, Rogers, Horvath, Kennedy, Sutherlin etc – and you’d think it would affect them adversely. But there are SO MANY transfers out there that it feels like the talent may not drop off. If we get those transfers AND keep our nucleus, hey, that’s pretty good.
Edit: Now Eytle-Rock too.
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Post by: guest410 on April 19, 2021, 02:58:52 pm
Post by: guest410 on May 06, 2021, 10:08:14 pm
"The University of Hartford Board of Regents voted Thursday to transition the university’s athletic program from Division I to Division III.
The university will submit to the NCAA a formal request to join Division III in January 2022 and hopes to be reclassified no later than Sept. 1, 2025. The school said in a statement that scholarships and coaching contracts will be honored."
Post by: Hammertime on May 07, 2021, 04:55:20 am
https://www.courant.com/sports/college/hc-sp-university-of-hartford-goes-div-iii-20210507-jva2n5pi5nfvvnt2wyr2cz3jde-story.html
"The University of Hartford Board of Regents voted Thursday to transition the university’s athletic program from Division I to Division III.
The university will submit to the NCAA a formal request to join Division III in January 2022 and hopes to be reclassified no later than Sept. 1, 2025. The school said in a statement that scholarships and coaching contracts will be honored."
It's a scary thought but the more I think of it the more it makes sense now. If it weren't for the girls in sports. SB athletics might be better off dropping down a division or two. I mean. They clearly are regressing in every men's sports since 2016. Really, since AD Fiore got the boot.
Who's going to continue to fund the athletics department. NYS has no interest in using tax dollars to do so. That money is better spent on supporting welfare and illegal immigration, as per Cuomo, not me.
Call me crazy, and that's fine but if this new President is anti-sports, and it is starting to look that way, I definitely could see SBU following the likes of Hartford university.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on May 07, 2021, 08:01:23 am
but i would ask- is there a middle ground here- perhaps dropping football down (or altogether)? isnt that like half the budget?
note that hartford doesn't field football. https://www.hartford.edu/about/athletics-transition.aspx
Post by: VA_Seawolf on May 07, 2021, 11:52:06 pm
Guess it was a good thing we grabbed NJIT when we did.
Post by: Hammertime on May 08, 2021, 05:51:42 am
Oh hellllll no. We're not dropping football. Cut Men's Soccer, swimming, and a bunch of other stuff, but don't you dare touch football. Can't believe Hartford is actually dropping. I figured that was just a baseless rumor...
Guess it was a good thing we grabbed NJIT when we did.
SB would still have to maintain a total of 14 sports to stay D1. Either 7 for boys and 7 for girls. They can't just start cutting out other sports and keep the well-known sports going.
Hartford University must be hemorrhaging in all sports. This is why the school needs to cut out scholarships.
Post by: ry1nik on May 08, 2021, 07:07:51 am
Post by: Chairman of the Board on May 08, 2021, 03:28:46 pm
Oh hellllll no. We're not dropping football. Cut Men's Soccer, swimming, and a bunch of other stuff, but don't you dare touch football. Can't believe Hartford is actually dropping. I figured that was just a baseless rumor...
Guess it was a good thing we grabbed NJIT when we did.
SB would still have to maintain a total of 14 sports to stay D1. Either 7 for boys and 7 for girls. They can't just start cutting out other sports and keep the well-known sports going.
Hartford University must be hemorrhaging in all sports. This is why the school needs to cut out scholarships.
correction- nearly everyone is hemorrhaging in all sports. except for maybe the top 25 programs.
Post by: Hammertime on May 09, 2021, 06:13:42 am
I would support the idea of dropping football as well. It doesn’t do much to boost the university’s reputation and I doubt it ever will…especially in light of the looming NYS fiscal crisis. Use the money for faculty and scholarships.
Hire the right personnel and it would. Keeping Chucky Cheese as SB HC does nothing for the football program. I was watching the SHSU and JMU game yesterday, and JMU HC is a former wide receive coach under Nick Saban, from Alabama. If JMU can hire talented assistant coaches from a Power 5 conference, why can't SH?
Post by: guest410 on May 09, 2021, 10:31:55 am
I would support the idea of dropping football as well. It doesn’t do much to boost the university’s reputation and I doubt it ever will…especially in light of the looming NYS fiscal crisis. Use the money for faculty and scholarships.
Hire the right personnel and it would. Keeping Chucky Cheese as SB HC does nothing for the football program. I was watching the SHSU and JMU game yesterday, and JMU HC is a former wide receive coach under Nick Saban, from Alabama. If JMU can hire talented assistant coaches from a Power 5 conference, why can't SH?
Cignetti is actually paid less than Chuck. It's funny, back in 2017, Chuck made more money than Lance Leipold, the then coach of Buffalo. Sensing a pattern here? Someone is overpaid.
Post by: Hammertime on May 10, 2021, 05:40:06 am
I would support the idea of dropping football as well. It doesn’t do much to boost the university’s reputation and I doubt it ever will…especially in light of the looming NYS fiscal crisis. Use the money for faculty and scholarships.
Hire the right personnel and it would. Keeping Chucky Cheese as SB HC does nothing for the football program. I was watching the SHSU and JMU game yesterday, and JMU HC is a former wide receive coach under Nick Saban, from Alabama. If JMU can hire talented assistant coaches from a Power 5 conference, why can't SH?
Cignetti is actually paid less than Chuck. It's funny, back in 2017, Chuck made more money than Lance Leipold, the then coach of Buffalo. Sensing a pattern here? Someone is overpaid.
Exactly. This is the BS nonsense that goes on with the NYS, "boys club". Just short of corruption. It is all about who you know and if you are liked or not. For some unknown reason, Chucky has strong ties in this system. The only way it changes is if people stand up to the university and demand a change or inquiry into who is behind keeping this guy in as HC..
Post by: ibosbu on May 10, 2021, 10:23:13 pm
https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/education/university-of-vermont/2021/05/03/uvm-protest-kendall-ware-sexual-assault-handling-outrages-students-uvm-empowering-survivors-metoo/4927912001/
https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/2021/05/07/university-vermont-athletics-director-responds-students-demand-change-sexual-assault-cases/4987928001/
Our own Adam already blogged about it back in February:
https://brook.land/a-tale-of-two-responses-to-sexual-assault-allegations-ebe2897bdfe9
infuriating and appalling if UVM really tried to hide it all.
Post by: Accelerator on May 10, 2021, 10:43:40 pm
Ware said that she refuses to name her rapist because she doesn't want to deal with retaliation, but at some point, you NEED to officially out him so that it can be on the record and used as evidence. The Houston Rockets aren't going to release Lamb because of some anonymous social media stories, but they will be more pressured to with an official newspaper article. Vermont won't face any consequences until it is on the record that Lamb is a rapist and not simply through social media.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on May 11, 2021, 07:24:59 am
Post by: ibosbu on May 11, 2021, 08:58:50 am
Post by: Chairman of the Board on May 11, 2021, 10:20:07 am
wanted you to have the whole story.
Post by: Checkmate on May 25, 2021, 02:00:24 pm
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1397219530968076288?s=20
Post by: guest410 on May 25, 2021, 05:22:56 pm
This will do absolutely nothing to close the floodgates.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1397219530968076288?s=20
Any mid-major that chooses not to play high-major due to fears of live evaluation should have their athletic administration fired immediately. It's a disservice to the school, the athletes, and the program overall. That money goes a long way, seriously. He's referring to CBB, not sure if CFB will see the same thing, but I'll use CFB as an example anyway. Last year's SBU at FAU game would've netted Stony Brook $400,000. After expenses for travel, lodging, salaries, and whatnot, the school would probably bank close to $200,000 (very rough guess, no idea how far off it is.) That's a **** ton of money. Some FCS schools schedule two FBS teams a year to pad the department's budget, and it's a brilliant move. It makes a lot of money and helps offset the cost of salaries, plus it gets the team's greater media attention. SBU played Virginia in basketball a couple of years ago and was supposed to play Florida this past season. Not sure how much the school received/would receive for those games, but usually, it's in the low six figures for CBB. Again, that's six figures more than SBU gets for playing Seton Hall two years ago. Mid-majors must continue to play higher-tier teams; otherwise, their budgets will shrink. Fans want to see them go against the best. No one wants to pay to see SBU play Bing every year and no great team outside the conference. Stop the dumb **** and worrying about losing players because the teams will scout them at the game and worry about losing players because your facilities are not excellent and the coaching staff is ****.
SBU is pulling in a whopping $625,000 to head to Eugene, Oregon and get royaly **** by the Ducks third string players. Worth it though.
Post by: Hammertime on May 26, 2021, 05:21:38 am
This will do absolutely nothing to close the floodgates.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1397219530968076288?s=20
Any mid-major that chooses not to play high-major due to fears of live evaluation should have their athletic administration fired immediately. It's a disservice to the school, the athletes, and the program overall. That money goes a long way, seriously. He's referring to CBB, not sure if CFB will see the same thing, but I'll use CFB as an example anyway. Last year's SBU at FAU game would've netted Stony Brook $400,000. After expenses for travel, lodging, salaries, and whatnot, the school would probably bank close to $200,000 (very rough guess, no idea how far off it is.) That's a **** ton of money. Some FCS schools schedule two FBS teams a year to pad the department's budget, and it's a brilliant move. It makes a lot of money and helps offset the cost of salaries, plus it gets the team's greater media attention. SBU played Virginia in basketball a couple of years ago and was supposed to play Florida this past season. Not sure how much the school received/would receive for those games, but usually, it's in the low six figures for CBB. Again, that's six figures more than SBU gets for playing Seton Hall two years ago. Mid-majors must continue to play higher-tier teams; otherwise, their budgets will shrink. Fans want to see them go against the best. No one wants to pay to see SBU play Bing every year and no great team outside the conference. Stop the dumb **** and worrying about losing players because the teams will scout them at the game and worry about losing players because your facilities are not excellent and the coaching staff is ****.
SBU is pulling in a whopping $625,000 to head to Eugene, Oregon and get royaly **** by the Ducks third string players. Worth it though.
I agree with you entirely when it comes to mid-major playing up major schools. The money is very important for the mid-major athletic budget and it gives the players exposure to play better teams. A win-win for both institutions. It worked for years, why change it now.
I don't totally agree with how SB usually schedules top-tier football schools for the one big payday. Why not try to schedule two G5 schools and make the same money. Like Maine usually does every year. You have a chance of beating UCONN, UMASS, Toledo, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo, etc.. not once, but twice. To fly across the country to get your ass handed to you and make your athletes, school, look like a jackass for money, to me is foolish. Maine has no problem finding G5 schools to play every year, Why cnt SB?
Post by: ecasadoSBU on May 26, 2021, 12:30:01 pm
This will do absolutely nothing to close the floodgates.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1397219530968076288?s=20
Any mid-major that chooses not to play high-major due to fears of live evaluation should have their athletic administration fired immediately. It's a disservice to the school, the athletes, and the program overall. That money goes a long way, seriously. He's referring to CBB, not sure if CFB will see the same thing, but I'll use CFB as an example anyway. Last year's SBU at FAU game would've netted Stony Brook $400,000. After expenses for travel, lodging, salaries, and whatnot, the school would probably bank close to $200,000 (very rough guess, no idea how far off it is.) That's a **** ton of money. Some FCS schools schedule two FBS teams a year to pad the department's budget, and it's a brilliant move. It makes a lot of money and helps offset the cost of salaries, plus it gets the team's greater media attention. SBU played Virginia in basketball a couple of years ago and was supposed to play Florida this past season. Not sure how much the school received/would receive for those games, but usually, it's in the low six figures for CBB. Again, that's six figures more than SBU gets for playing Seton Hall two years ago. Mid-majors must continue to play higher-tier teams; otherwise, their budgets will shrink. Fans want to see them go against the best. No one wants to pay to see SBU play Bing every year and no great team outside the conference. Stop the dumb **** and worrying about losing players because the teams will scout them at the game and worry about losing players because your facilities are not excellent and the coaching staff is ****.
SBU is pulling in a whopping $625,000 to head to Eugene, Oregon and get royaly **** by the Ducks third string players. Worth it though.
I agree with you entirely when it comes to mid-major playing up major schools. The money is very important for the mid-major athletic budget and it gives the players exposure to play better teams. A win-win for both institutions. It worked for years, why change it now.
I don't totally agree with how SB usually schedules top-tier football schools for the one big payday. Why not try to schedule two G5 schools and make the same money. Like Maine usually does every year. You have a chance of beating UCONN, UMASS, Toledo, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo, etc.. not once, but twice. To fly across the country to get your ass handed to you and make your athletes, school, look like a jackass for money, to me is foolish. Maine has no problem finding G5 schools to play every year, Why cnt SB?
I always thought the same.
We should play more Temple, UConn, UMass, Buffalo, etc as opposed to powerhouses like Oregon.
Post by: guest410 on May 26, 2021, 05:55:38 pm
This will do absolutely nothing to close the floodgates.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1397219530968076288?s=20
Any mid-major that chooses not to play high-major due to fears of live evaluation should have their athletic administration fired immediately. It's a disservice to the school, the athletes, and the program overall. That money goes a long way, seriously. He's referring to CBB, not sure if CFB will see the same thing, but I'll use CFB as an example anyway. Last year's SBU at FAU game would've netted Stony Brook $400,000. After expenses for travel, lodging, salaries, and whatnot, the school would probably bank close to $200,000 (very rough guess, no idea how far off it is.) That's a **** ton of money. Some FCS schools schedule two FBS teams a year to pad the department's budget, and it's a brilliant move. It makes a lot of money and helps offset the cost of salaries, plus it gets the team's greater media attention. SBU played Virginia in basketball a couple of years ago and was supposed to play Florida this past season. Not sure how much the school received/would receive for those games, but usually, it's in the low six figures for CBB. Again, that's six figures more than SBU gets for playing Seton Hall two years ago. Mid-majors must continue to play higher-tier teams; otherwise, their budgets will shrink. Fans want to see them go against the best. No one wants to pay to see SBU play Bing every year and no great team outside the conference. Stop the dumb **** and worrying about losing players because the teams will scout them at the game and worry about losing players because your facilities are not excellent and the coaching staff is ****.
SBU is pulling in a whopping $625,000 to head to Eugene, Oregon and get royaly **** by the Ducks third string players. Worth it though.
I agree with you entirely when it comes to mid-major playing up major schools. The money is very important for the mid-major athletic budget and it gives the players exposure to play better teams. A win-win for both institutions. It worked for years, why change it now.
I don't totally agree with how SB usually schedules top-tier football schools for the one big payday. Why not try to schedule two G5 schools and make the same money. Like Maine usually does every year. You have a chance of beating UCONN, UMASS, Toledo, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo, etc.. not once, but twice. To fly across the country to get your ass handed to you and make your athletes, school, look like a jackass for money, to me is foolish. Maine has no problem finding G5 schools to play every year, Why cnt SB?
I always thought the same.
We should play more Temple, UConn, UMass, Buffalo, etc as opposed to powerhouses like Oregon.
So this year UMass is hosting two FCS teams, Rhode Island and Maine, paying out $350,000 and $300,000 respectively. UConn is hosting Holy Cross and Yale, paying out $425,000 and $285,000. Temple and Buffalo are not playing an FCS team this year. (All figures courtesy of our friends HERO Sports https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2021-fbs-payouts-bzbz/)
Stony Brook is playing at UMass in 2022, and the exact payout is unknown at this time. Most of the money will go towards paying Morgan State, who heads to Long Island roughly two months later and will receive $120,000 for the game.
Post by: Hammertime on May 26, 2021, 06:33:37 pm
This will do absolutely nothing to close the floodgates.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1397219530968076288?s=20
Any mid-major that chooses not to play high-major due to fears of live evaluation should have their athletic administration fired immediately. It's a disservice to the school, the athletes, and the program overall. That money goes a long way, seriously. He's referring to CBB, not sure if CFB will see the same thing, but I'll use CFB as an example anyway. Last year's SBU at FAU game would've netted Stony Brook $400,000. After expenses for travel, lodging, salaries, and whatnot, the school would probably bank close to $200,000 (very rough guess, no idea how far off it is.) That's a **** ton of money. Some FCS schools schedule two FBS teams a year to pad the department's budget, and it's a brilliant move. It makes a lot of money and helps offset the cost of salaries, plus it gets the team's greater media attention. SBU played Virginia in basketball a couple of years ago and was supposed to play Florida this past season. Not sure how much the school received/would receive for those games, but usually, it's in the low six figures for CBB. Again, that's six figures more than SBU gets for playing Seton Hall two years ago. Mid-majors must continue to play higher-tier teams; otherwise, their budgets will shrink. Fans want to see them go against the best. No one wants to pay to see SBU play Bing every year and no great team outside the conference. Stop the dumb **** and worrying about losing players because the teams will scout them at the game and worry about losing players because your facilities are not excellent and the coaching staff is ****.
SBU is pulling in a whopping $625,000 to head to Eugene, Oregon and get royaly **** by the Ducks third string players. Worth it though.
I agree with you entirely when it comes to mid-major playing up major schools. The money is very important for the mid-major athletic budget and it gives the players exposure to play better teams. A win-win for both institutions. It worked for years, why change it now.
I don't totally agree with how SB usually schedules top-tier football schools for the one big payday. Why not try to schedule two G5 schools and make the same money. Like Maine usually does every year. You have a chance of beating UCONN, UMASS, Toledo, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo, etc.. not once, but twice. To fly across the country to get your ass handed to you and make your athletes, school, look like a jackass for money, to me is foolish. Maine has no problem finding G5 schools to play every year, Why cnt SB?
I always thought the same.
We should play more Temple, UConn, UMass, Buffalo, etc as opposed to powerhouses like Oregon.
So this year UMass is hosting two FCS teams, Rhode Island and Maine, paying out $350,000 and $300,000 respectively. UConn is hosting Holy Cross and Yale, paying out $425,000 and $285,000. Temple and Buffalo are not playing an FCS team this year. (All figures courtesy of our friends HERO Sports https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2021-fbs-payouts-bzbz/)
Stony Brook is playing at UMass in 2022, and the exact payout is unknown at this time. Most of the money will go towards paying Morgan State, who heads to Long Island roughly two months later and will receive $120,000 for the game.
Most of these games are planed years in advance. SH should of had these local FBS schools locked up, year after year playing teams that are in the G5.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on May 31, 2021, 02:24:42 am
This will do absolutely nothing to close the floodgates.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1397219530968076288?s=20
Any mid-major that chooses not to play high-major due to fears of live evaluation should have their athletic administration fired immediately. It's a disservice to the school, the athletes, and the program overall. That money goes a long way, seriously. He's referring to CBB, not sure if CFB will see the same thing, but I'll use CFB as an example anyway. Last year's SBU at FAU game would've netted Stony Brook $400,000. After expenses for travel, lodging, salaries, and whatnot, the school would probably bank close to $200,000 (very rough guess, no idea how far off it is.) That's a **** ton of money. Some FCS schools schedule two FBS teams a year to pad the department's budget, and it's a brilliant move. It makes a lot of money and helps offset the cost of salaries, plus it gets the team's greater media attention. SBU played Virginia in basketball a couple of years ago and was supposed to play Florida this past season. Not sure how much the school received/would receive for those games, but usually, it's in the low six figures for CBB. Again, that's six figures more than SBU gets for playing Seton Hall two years ago. Mid-majors must continue to play higher-tier teams; otherwise, their budgets will shrink. Fans want to see them go against the best. No one wants to pay to see SBU play Bing every year and no great team outside the conference. Stop the dumb **** and worrying about losing players because the teams will scout them at the game and worry about losing players because your facilities are not excellent and the coaching staff is ****.
SBU is pulling in a whopping $625,000 to head to Eugene, Oregon and get royaly **** by the Ducks third string players. Worth it though.
I agree with you entirely when it comes to mid-major playing up major schools. The money is very important for the mid-major athletic budget and it gives the players exposure to play better teams. A win-win for both institutions. It worked for years, why change it now.
I don't totally agree with how SB usually schedules top-tier football schools for the one big payday. Why not try to schedule two G5 schools and make the same money. Like Maine usually does every year. You have a chance of beating UCONN, UMASS, Toledo, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo, etc.. not once, but twice. To fly across the country to get your ass handed to you and make your athletes, school, look like a jackass for money, to me is foolish. Maine has no problem finding G5 schools to play every year, Why cnt SB?
I always thought the same.
We should play more Temple, UConn, UMass, Buffalo, etc as opposed to powerhouses like Oregon.
I wouldn't mind both, but that would be hard on the players. It depends. Financially I see the draw of playing Oregon, but the fan in me would like to see more winnable games against G5 schools that are a reasonable distance away. I think every four years where we get the 12th game we should go ahead and schedule the P5 bodybag game. Otherwise we'd probably be better served to limit it to AAC and MAC teams who we'd have a shot against.
Post by: ry1nik on May 31, 2021, 10:11:35 am
Post by: guest419 on August 11, 2021, 05:45:43 pm
Post by: Hammertime on August 11, 2021, 08:10:13 pm
Playing P5 schools for a big check is worth it especially when your athletic department cant raise money.
Yes, Humiliate the team, coaches, university, and conference. Not to mention. Putting these players at risk of getting hurt because P5 school athletes are bigger and stronger than FCS players Esepically against SBU players.
The better plan is to schedule two G5 games against schools like UCONN, UMASS, Buffalo, etc.. Maine does this year in and year out, and it works.. Hey!! SBU might actually win a game or two and make a name for themself.
Post by: guest410 on August 12, 2021, 02:16:04 pm
https://americaeast.com/news/2021/8/12/commissioner_announcement-Brad_Walker.aspx
Post by: Knicksbu99 on August 15, 2021, 03:46:55 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on August 15, 2021, 04:12:39 pm
Post by: Hammertime on August 16, 2021, 05:28:00 am
I guess that unforgivable baseball bungle finished off Huchthausen.
I guess SBU took one for the team. Amy was a do-nothing commissioner since her hire. This new Commissioner has a nice resume. Hopefully, he believes in conference expansions and possibly brings in FCS football.
Post by: guest419 on September 01, 2021, 08:57:20 pm
I guess that unforgivable baseball bungle finished off Huchthausen.
I guess SBU took one for the team. Amy was a do-nothing commissioner since her hire. This new Commissioner has a nice resume. Hopefully, he believes in conference expansions and possibly brings in FCS football.
You would want to see an AmericaEast football deal? The CAA and the AmericaEast are two really bad conferences. That would be worse.
Post by: Hammertime on September 02, 2021, 06:29:51 am
I guess that unforgivable baseball bungle finished off Huchthausen.
I guess SBU took one for the team. Amy was a do-nothing commissioner since her hire. This new Commissioner has a nice resume. Hopefully, he believes in conference expansions and possibly brings in FCS football.
You would want to see an AmericaEast football deal? The CAA and the AmericaEast are two really bad conferences. That would be worse.
I think merging the AE and CAA for all sports would be better than doing nothing. This new AE appears to be a go-getter, whereas Amy was a leach and a nothing.
Post by: guest410 on September 06, 2021, 12:45:48 pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on September 10, 2021, 11:46:26 am
https://gobearcats.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/staff/jordan-mckenzie/100
Wishing him well. We all gave him a hard time as a player at times, but he could defend and handle the ball well.
Post by: Checkmate on November 10, 2021, 05:52:35 am
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Post by: OldSeawolf on November 10, 2021, 06:20:04 am
Mo Gueye 2 points, 8 rebounds in his Pitt debut. The Citadel wins by 15 at the road.
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Wish him well, but we all wondered, why Pitt???
Post by: Checkmate on November 10, 2021, 02:06:22 pm
- Andrew Garcia's now at Kent State. They tip off Friday. He's back working with Randal Holt, who's an assistant there.
- Michael Almonacy (App State) had 9 points on 4-of-15 shooting in a season-opening loss to Iona.
- Makale Foreman was a DNP in Cal's loss to UC San Diego.
- Jeff Otchere was a DNP in UTRGV's win over Texas A&M International.
- Anthony Ochefu was a DNP in Delaware's loss to Davidson.
- Jules Moor had two points in four minutes during Stephen F. Austin's win over LSU-Alexandria.
- Corry Long (SNHU) and Tavin Pierre-Philippe (New Haven) tip on Friday.
- It was reported that Miles Latimer transferred from Bucknell to Bryant but he's not listed on the roster.
- Same with Leighton Elliott-Sewell at STAC. Not listed.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 10, 2021, 10:11:13 pm
Other Seawolves in other places ...
- Andrew Garcia's now at Kent State. They tip off Friday. He's back working with Randal Holt, who's an assistant there.
- Michael Almonacy (App State) had 9 points on 4-of-15 shooting in a season-opening loss to Iona.
- Makale Foreman was a DNP in Cal's loss to UC San Diego.
- Jeff Otchere was a DNP in UTRGV's win over Texas A&M International.
- Anthony Ochefu was a DNP in Delaware's loss to Davidson.
- Jules Moor had two points in four minutes during Stephen F. Austin's win over LSU-Alexandria.
- Corry Long (SNHU) and Tavin Pierre-Philippe (New Haven) tip on Friday.
- It was reported that Miles Latimer transferred from Bucknell to Bryant but he's not listed on the roster.
- Same with Leighton Elliott-Sewell at STAC. Not listed.
Literally more than half the roster of kids who played here between 18-20 are now elsewhere. I could simply point to the transfer rules, but even then half of these kids wound up in programs/conferences that are equal to or below SBU. What the hell.
Post by: Checkmate on November 17, 2021, 10:21:53 pm
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Post by: Checkmate on November 19, 2021, 09:30:23 pm
17 assists on 27 makes. 40-20 advantage in the paint. They rolled despite going 3-21 from three.
Vermont with a nice win over the Ivy favorites too.
We’re going to have our hands full this year.
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Post by: OldSeawolf on December 16, 2021, 07:58:28 pm
Post by: Accelerator on December 16, 2021, 08:58:41 pm
Post by: Checkmate on January 08, 2022, 01:35:18 pm
Here’s a nice read on how he’s developed.
https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/Pitt/2021/12/23/pitt-panthers-basketball-mouhamadou-gueye-jeff-capel-stony-brook-seawolves/stories/202112240022
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Post by: guest410 on February 17, 2022, 07:05:40 pm
Maine has fired their HC
Post by: Hammertime on February 18, 2022, 06:07:39 am
https://www.wabi.tv/2022/02/17/maine-mens-basketball-head-coach-richard-barron-mutually-agree-part-ways/
Maine has fired their HC
We could only wish. But that doesnt happen at SBU very often
Post by: ibosbu on March 04, 2022, 04:18:57 pm
https://twitter.com/espnlunardi/status/1499800278282944521?s=21
PS time to change the name of the thread? Would love to see this thread continuing as it has so many pages already! Or perhaps start a fresh one as we move into CAA
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 06, 2022, 12:31:05 am
In any case in the CAA if we play well there's always a chance. The AE never had a prayer at an at-large.
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 06, 2022, 03:24:45 pm
The west coast high-major (non P6) leagues are doing pretty well this year. That would be 7/8 bids between the MWC/WCC while the P6 ACC is looking at only 4 or 5 bids this year. The A10 is also struggling
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 06, 2022, 03:26:01 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 06, 2022, 04:53:10 pm
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Post by: Hammertime on March 06, 2022, 05:15:29 pm
I can’t see it, but how I would love to see Vermont stub its toe in the AE Tournament. Total massacre today though.
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Not going to happen.
One would have to believe that Vermont leaves the AE once the new basketball arena is up and running. That would be that nail in the coffin
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 06, 2022, 06:58:38 pm
I can’t see it, but how I would love to see Vermont stub its toe in the AE Tournament. Total massacre today though.
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Not going to happen.
One would have to believe that Vermont leaves the AE once the new basketball arena is up and running. That would be that nail in the coffin
Vermont is basically the East Coast Gonzaga but without the continuity at coach and the NCAA performance. They're poised to dominate the AE the same way Gonzaga has dominated the WCC.
Post by: ibosbu on March 06, 2022, 11:49:40 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 07, 2022, 08:32:57 pm
I wonder if we can get Albany in here for a buy game next year
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Post by: Accelerator on March 07, 2022, 09:00:29 pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 08, 2022, 10:30:21 am
We'll be fine in the CAA. Recruiting will tick up and we'll be good.
Post by: guest410 on March 08, 2022, 09:23:33 pm
Post by: ibosbu on March 08, 2022, 10:54:27 pm
Post by: ibosbu on March 10, 2022, 11:25:05 am
Post by: ibosbu on March 10, 2022, 11:29:29 am
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 10, 2022, 11:46:33 am
I expect today's game to be a lot of fun also. I would love to see Stony Brook in the Big East someday in my lifetime. lol
Post by: Accelerator on March 10, 2022, 11:54:30 am
Bryant students came off like massive d-bags... but at least they have a passion for the team that I haven't seen at Stony Brook since Warney left.
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 10, 2022, 12:20:52 pm
The real story of the week was the Malice at the Palace 2.0 at Bryant/Wagner. Never did I ever think that could ever happen at an NEC game, lol.
Bryant students came off like massive d-bags... but at least they have a passion for the team that I haven't seen at Stony Brook since Warney left.
I'm sure the America East will be so happy now to take Bryant into their Conference.....
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 10, 2022, 09:24:02 pm
I'm just thankful we're on the way out.
Post by: Checkmate on March 10, 2022, 11:13:46 pm
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Post by: seawolfemeritus on March 11, 2022, 09:07:27 am
Also Fairfield under JY has been pretty underwhelming. Seems like Boals was the right hire that year over JY, but once Boals left, we should have started a new coaching search.Inherited a mess, and hasn't had a home court advantage in 3 years while their new arena is under construction. With the arena ready next year and some recruits/portal guys, expect them to be much better. Building it the same way Pikes built SBU/RU.
Post by: ibosbu on March 11, 2022, 10:24:24 am
Also Fairfield under JY has been pretty underwhelming. Seems like Boals was the right hire that year over JY, but once Boals left, we should have started a new coaching search.Inherited a mess, and hasn't had a home court advantage in 3 years while their new arena is under construction. With the arena ready next year and some recruits/portal guys, expect them to be much better. Building it the same way Pikes built SBU/RU.
Didn’t know about the home court issue. That does affect a lot. With new Arena would Fairfield be an attractive school for AE, even CAA?
Post by: Checkmate on March 12, 2022, 01:26:25 pm
The AE stinks, and UVM’s resume isn’t especially impressive on its own, but I would not want to face them in the first round of the tournament.
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Post by: Hammertime on March 12, 2022, 05:03:52 pm
No doubt in my mind no ban this team is in the finals. Sure Vermont was a juggernaut but its march and anything can happen would love to have a 3rd crack at them shame the AE shame Shawn helibron.
I like SH as a person, but he sucks as an AD for SB. Sorry to say that, but it's true.....
Post by: Checkmate on March 12, 2022, 07:42:14 pm
No doubt in my mind no ban this team is in the finals. Sure Vermont was a juggernaut but its march and anything can happen would love to have a 3rd crack at them shame the AE shame Shawn helibron.
I like SH as a person, but he sucks as an AD for SB. Sorry to say that, but it's true.....
What are your top three gripes with him?
I'm not in the weeds as much with the athletic department happenings, but I see him at every game, mostly successful programs, a major conference upgrade, return of the swim program, a new bubble, new training center ... so it's pretty good from my angle, but as I said, I haven't really scrutinized the inner workings much.
Post by: Checkmate on March 12, 2022, 08:18:18 pm
He's going to have to play a big role, especially early. One of these guys got suspended for the game, and three others for the first half.
https://twitter.com/KardSports/status/1502788036748189698?s=20&t=a0VqV4OPb9OpScrE6hHslQ
Post by: Accelerator on March 12, 2022, 10:34:25 pm
No doubt in my mind no ban this team is in the finals. Sure Vermont was a juggernaut but its march and anything can happen would love to have a 3rd crack at them shame the AE shame Shawn helibron.
I like SH as a person, but he sucks as an AD for SB. Sorry to say that, but it's true.....
What are your top three gripes with him?
I'm not in the weeds as much with the athletic department happenings, but I see him at every game, mostly successful programs, a major conference upgrade, return of the swim program, a new bubble, new training center ... so it's pretty good from my angle, but as I said, I haven't really scrutinized the inner workings much.
Let's start with his awful contract decisions in the money sports: football and basketball!
And then the inability to fundraise enough money to cover his ass when those hires began to fail. His fundraising in general has been awful, and that was the sole reason he was brought here.
I also don't think the student engagement has improved that much since he came along — another strike against him.
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Post by: guest410 on March 13, 2022, 12:05:02 am
Andrew Garcia's trying to go to the tournament finally. Kent State v. Akron.
He's going to have to play a big role, especially early. One of these guys got suspended for the game, and three others for the first half.
https://twitter.com/KardSports/status/1502788036748189698?s=20&t=a0VqV4OPb9OpScrE6hHslQ
Unfortunately, statistically, he had a terrible game. Five points, four rebounds, two steals, one assist, and fouled out in 22 minutes.
Post by: Accelerator on March 13, 2022, 01:38:44 am
Ahmad Walker’s brother is dancing. He had 27 tonight for UAB—after going for 40 yesterday. Port Washington kid.
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Damn, I haven’t thought about Ahmad Walker in ages. Didn’t know he had a brother in D1 either. Ahmad was a real head case, so much potential but had to get arrested a month before he would have been one of the main weapons in the post-NCAA team.
Post by: Hammertime on March 13, 2022, 07:08:08 am
No doubt in my mind no ban this team is in the finals. Sure Vermont was a juggernaut but its march and anything can happen would love to have a 3rd crack at them shame the AE shame Shawn helibron.
I like SH as a person, but he sucks as an AD for SB. Sorry to say that, but it's true.....
What are your top three gripes with him?
I'm not in the weeds as much with the athletic department happenings, but I see him at every game, mostly successful programs, a major conference upgrade, return of the swim program, a new bubble, new training center ... so it's pretty good from my angle, but as I said, I haven't really scrutinized the inner workings much.
SH 5 year 100 million Dollar plan when first hired missed by about 90 million.
SH couldn't even raise $100,000 to install lighting at Joe Nathan Field. for the men's baseball field, hence, they missed a chance to make the NCAA dance last year.
SH locks Geno Ford into a 5-year contract right out of the gate after Boals leaves for Ohio. Huge mistake.
SH extends coach Priore's contract twice when he should have fired him, twice...
The upgrades you mentioned only happened because of a huge influx of money from SB former Alumni, The Dolan family.
I'm sure there are many more gripes I forgot to mention. Like I said. SH is a really nice guy. No doubt. But he isn't good for SB and his ability to raise money is not up to par with his expectations..
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 13, 2022, 04:31:07 pm
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 13, 2022, 11:05:40 pm
That was exciting basketball at the garden. Would love for Stony Brook to play in an environment like that someday.
I wonder how the CAA Tournament is?!? Thinking of checking it out next March in DC
Post by: seawolfemeritus on March 14, 2022, 09:17:37 am
Also Fairfield under JY has been pretty underwhelming. Seems like Boals was the right hire that year over JY, but once Boals left, we should have started a new coaching search.Inherited a mess, and hasn't had a home court advantage in 3 years while their new arena is under construction. With the arena ready next year and some recruits/portal guys, expect them to be much better. Building it the same way Pikes built SBU/RU.
Didn’t know about the home court issue. That does affect a lot. With new Arena would Fairfield be an attractive school for AE, even CAA?
No question they're looking to move, and I believe the CAA is the target. But with all this conference realignment stuff, who the heck knows? The AE board believes they're swallowing the MAAC. The MAAC board thinks they're swallowing the AE. It's entertaining, but at the end of the day nobody really knows jack! :-)
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 14, 2022, 10:54:31 pm
I bought tickets for the entire slate of the BET like I usually did before the pandemic.
That was exciting basketball at the garden. Would love for Stony Brook to play in an environment like that someday.
I wonder how the CAA Tournament is?!? Thinking of checking it out next March in DC
Not sure it'll stay in DC next year as the CAA tourney has moved around a bit, but if it's in the same spot just a quick word of caution as that arena is in SE DC which is the hood of DC. Won't be an issue if you drive in though I don't think.
Post by: Accelerator on March 17, 2022, 12:48:23 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 17, 2022, 02:30:21 pm
I do think things came easier for Notre Dame so the better team may have won. Still gotta love what's going on at Rutgers. They'll bring most everyone back and it seems like the floor for their recruiting continues to rise. If I was in NJ, I'd think it was cool to play for Rutgers and go up against the B1G.
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 17, 2022, 04:38:14 pm
The Rutgers L was tough. It felt like Pikiell should have called timeout in regulation, at least after the offensive rebound. And then the turnover in OT—ouch.
I do think things came easier for Notre Dame so the better team may have won. Still gotta love what's going on at Rutgers. They'll bring most everyone back and it seems like the floor for their recruiting continues to rise. If I was in NJ, I'd think it was cool to play for Rutgers and go up against the B1G.
Would I take Pikiell back at SBU? In a heartbeat. No questions asked.
But the guy continues to lose Big games. Last year, blowing that lead against Houston was inexcusable in the round of 32, when he took the air out of the ball way too early. He was crucified for that on the Rutgers boards.
Last night, he blew the game with that ridiculous diagrammed out-of-bounds play TO after a timeout, when they had a 1 pt lead and the ball with 27 secs left (forget if it was at end of regulation or the 1st OT, since there were so many swings in game).
We remember his 1-4 in championship games at sbu and I still remember sitting in the arena with my son in the last one, trailing by 17 early in the 2nd half, saying that this defies all odds. But Warney put the team on his back thankfully.
He’s a really good guy, excellent recruiter, great ambassador for the university he’s working for, but when it comes to X’s and O’s, he isn’t close to the top; I’d even venture to say mediocre at best.
4 years, $16MM, I say he should be sharing a piece of that with Warney, who put him on the map. Then again, he was the guy who recruited Warney, and somehow convinced him to stay for 4 years.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 17, 2022, 05:28:47 pm
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We remember his 1-4 in championship games at sbu and I still remember sitting in the arena with my son in the last one, trailing by 17 early in the 2nd half, saying that this defies all odds. But Warney put the team on his back thankfully.
and somehow we ignore this formula year after year.... i know, im a broken record.
Post by: Checkmate on March 17, 2022, 10:56:04 pm
Sorry, Accel, had to rib you for that one
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Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 17, 2022, 11:17:43 pm
Post by: Accelerator on March 17, 2022, 11:27:47 pm
Look at that. “Local church team of high schoolers” knocked off Kentucky.
Sorry, Accel, had to rib you for that one
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Lol that did age poorly. But at the time they were not nearly as good as they are now. KenPom of 217 vs 107 as of today. At this point, it’s good PR for us to have beaten them at all.
Post by: Checkmate on March 21, 2022, 07:22:17 am
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Post by: OldSeawolf on March 21, 2022, 07:28:45 am
It’s gotta be a kick in the nuts for Olaniyi to transfer here to win a conference title (among other reasons) only to see Miami reach the Sweet 16. And they can beat Iowa State too.
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I was thinking the same thing during the game last night. Additionally, I think I found a team that takes as many bad shots as us......Auburn! I could not believe the # of bad 3's that were hoisted by them all night. I think Bruce Pearl attended too many Geno Ford summer camps.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 21, 2022, 08:35:12 am
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 21, 2022, 09:04:25 am
anyone catch the end of osu/nova? it was a tight game and both teams just launched hapless threes for about the last 10 minutes. it was awful bball.
Yeah, it was bad. But Auburn got the award for most bad shots in a game. Bruce Pearl should get fired after that performance.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 21, 2022, 09:19:00 am
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Post by: Checkmate on March 22, 2022, 03:31:13 pm
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33477610/rutgers-men-basketball-coach-steve-pikiell-agree-four-year-extensionGood for him. Well deserved. He’s revived that program, which is to say that it was once alive and I’m not sure that’s accurate!
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Post by: ibosbu on March 22, 2022, 04:12:33 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 26, 2022, 02:09:52 pm
Holloway playing his way right into a multi-million dollar Seton Hall head coaching job, now that Willard is leaving. He's a real good guy; good for him.
Post by: sbu1991 on March 26, 2022, 05:28:05 pm
St. Peters !!! Great story, and didn't we beat them this year :)
Holloway playing his way right into a multi-million dollar Seton Hall head coaching job, now that Willard is leaving. He's a real good guy; good for him.
Geno could learn A LOT from St. Peters' offense. Great ball movement, screens, off-the-ball movement and cutting to the basket. It's impressive how much they can fit into a single possession, which almost always yields a makable shot. (Basically, the exact opposite of a typical SB possession.)
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 26, 2022, 08:18:44 pm
vermont does it. st. peter's does it. maybe its the formula for a midmajor to win.
we've won exactly one game of importance in the past 15 years (or ever, for that matter, at this level), with 21 assists (thanks woody).
this year? averaged 11 per game.
Post by: Accelerator on March 26, 2022, 08:36:21 pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 26, 2022, 08:42:07 pm
passing works in every sport. except golf. and boxing. and tennis.
Post by: Checkmate on March 27, 2022, 09:05:28 am
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33604306/financial-jackpot-unlikely-cash-strapped-saint-peter-peacocks-generating-ncaa-tournament-revenue
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Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 27, 2022, 01:11:00 pm
Post by: ibosbu on March 27, 2022, 01:33:58 pm
I thought this was an interesting read about St. Peter’s financial situation and what this run means/doesn’t mean.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33604306/financial-jackpot-unlikely-cash-strapped-saint-peter-peacocks-generating-ncaa-tournament-revenue
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Good read. Whatever number of units (ie money) they end up earning, it will get distributed evenly to all MAAC members over 6 years. It may seem unfair, but every unit that other teams (Iona for example) have been bringing in previous years, St. Peter’s got a share too.
I think most conferences split tourney unit money evenly among conference members regardless of who earns it. I know one exception A10 who splits based on performance rather than evenly. They split 75% for the team earning the unit and 25% for conference. I’m sure there are other conferences who have their own rules on splitting. I wonder what CAA does.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 27, 2022, 05:05:03 pm
Post by: ibosbu on March 28, 2022, 03:03:05 pm
https://twitter.com/samurai_hoops/status/1508515204849709058?s=21
Per Samurai Sources, Dwayne Killings will be relieved of his duties at Albany following the Final Four.
Albany AD Mark Benson reportedly going to give Killings an opportunity to depart on his own.
The allegations against Killings center around an *alleged* physical altercation with a student athlete.
AD Mark Benson has reportedly given Killings the opportunity to leave on his own in an attempt to salvage the situation but has openly began his search for a replacement
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 28, 2022, 03:11:33 pm
the internets say its obvious who the player is... to me its not. maybe i dont pay close enough attention.
hope they all get this figured out and come out on top. would hate to see a fellow suny endure an athletics issue.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 28, 2022, 03:15:54 pm
Post by: ibosbu on March 28, 2022, 03:21:14 pm
Don’t know much about Dwayne Killings and current players… but yeah. I would never wish bad for fellow SUNY teams. Agreed… hope they endure.
But tbh it’s hard to find any sympathy after the way their fans on AE board continue to bash us.
Post by: guest410 on March 28, 2022, 03:39:45 pm
Post by: guest410 on March 28, 2022, 03:46:14 pm
Only 16 hours ago, Mid-Major Madness posted Albany picked up a commitment from a '22 SG who chose the Great Danes over UMass, Marist and NJIT.
Post by: Hammertime on March 28, 2022, 06:50:07 pm
Update from Scooby Doo’s:
https://twitter.com/samurai_hoops/status/1508515204849709058?s=21
Per Samurai Sources, Dwayne Killings will be relieved of his duties at Albany following the Final Four.
Albany AD Mark Benson reportedly going to give Killings an opportunity to depart on his own.
The allegations against Killings center around an *alleged* physical altercation with a student athlete.
AD Mark Benson has reportedly given Killings the opportunity to leave on his own in an attempt to salvage the situation but has openly began his search for a replacement
Maybe UA will take Geno Ford as their next HC..
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 28, 2022, 07:40:11 pm
and i have to say- it isnt the worst idea ive heard.
Post by: Accelerator on March 29, 2022, 12:36:28 pm
I shouldn't be laughing at this sh*tstorm happening to them... but I am. Sorry, but after watching the Hooley three in person at their arena, I have no sympathy.
Post by: guest410 on March 29, 2022, 06:43:40 pm
Post by: ibosbu on March 29, 2022, 07:50:42 pm
Bryant announces they’re joining the AE and parking football in the Big South
Following what Monmouth and us did. Free parking at Big South
Post by: Checkmate on April 03, 2022, 02:12:45 pm
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Post by: ibosbu on April 21, 2022, 07:56:16 am
Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 21, 2022, 06:33:14 pm
Wow. Can’t Jay Wright retired just like that. Legend.
Really shocking to be honest. Sad to lose a great coach for the game.
Post by: ibosbu on April 21, 2022, 08:58:48 pm
Wow. Can’t Jay Wright retired just like that. Legend.
Really shocking to be honest. Sad to lose a great coach for the game.
Yeah. Nova is not going to be perennial contender anymore. Why are they hiring one year coach from Fordham? They could get anyone. And they got money.
Post by: Checkmate on April 21, 2022, 09:31:17 pm
Neptune was a Nova assistant for a long time before taking the Fordham gig. A Fordham friend was pleased to have a glimmer of hope with Neptune, but now he’s expecting to regress to the norm with him gone.Wow. Can’t Jay Wright retired just like that. Legend.
Really shocking to be honest. Sad to lose a great coach for the game.
Yeah. Nova is not going to be perennial contender anymore. Why are they hiring one year coach from Fordham? They could get anyone. And they got money.
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Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 21, 2022, 11:55:44 pm
Wow. Can’t Jay Wright retired just like that. Legend.
Really shocking to be honest. Sad to lose a great coach for the game.
Yeah. Nova is not going to be perennial contender anymore. Why are they hiring one year coach from Fordham? They could get anyone. And they got money.
Nova won two championships with the Jay Wright-Neptune duo. So it makes sense they bring him in to try to retain players and keep the same system in place
Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 22, 2022, 01:19:40 pm
Post by: Checkmate on May 03, 2022, 08:22:34 am
Would have been interesting if we were still looking, although I think we’d have been a darkhorse at best for it.
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Post by: ibosbu on May 03, 2022, 12:33:49 pm
https://collegehoopstoday.com/index.php/rothstein-files/bernadette-mcglade-atlantic-10-open-to-adding-16th-member/
Would have been interesting if we were still looking, although I think we’d have been a darkhorse at best for it.
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Yes we probably wouldn’t have much chance, but darkhorse is a good way to put it. Because I also do not see any clear cut worthy addition from New England and Mid-Atlantic. Best candidate is probably for from south of DMV. Charleston stands out to me in terms of dedication to basketball.
From north, Iona brings nothing except Pitino. Vermont is handicapped by their location. Northeastern is one of many Boston teams with average attendance less than 1k. Delaware has football issue. Fairfield/Siena have potential, not do not add anything to what A10 already has. I would say Hofstra and us would have a lot of advantage over other candidates from the region. But every school including us lack basketball success which is one thing A10 values above all.
It’s probably going to be Belmont or Charleston imo.
I wish we had couple of more trips to ncaa in the last decade. It would have put us above many candidates. We just have one banner.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on May 03, 2022, 02:43:21 pm
Post by: Checkmate on August 03, 2022, 09:28:56 am
Try to contain yourself.
An interesting proposed division setup on Twitter. Not bad if you ask me.
South
C of C
UNC Wilmington
UNC A&T
Elon
Campbell
Hampton
William & Mary
North
Towson
Delaware
Drexel
Monmouth
Hofstra
Stony Brook
Northeastern
Post by: ibosbu on August 03, 2022, 09:45:35 am
Post by: sbugold on August 03, 2022, 09:50:53 am
Worth noting: the Campbell Camels will join the CAA beginning in 2023-24. With UNC A&T joining as well, we'll be up to 14 teams.
Try to contain yourself.
An interesting proposed division setup on Twitter. Not bad if you ask me.
South
C of C
UNC Wilmington
UNC A&T
Elon
Campbell
Hampton
William & Mary
North
Towson
Delaware
Drexel
Monmouth
Hofstra
Stony Brook
Northeastern
What happened to Howard? I thought they would be a great addition, and was under the impression it was happening.
Post by: Checkmate on August 03, 2022, 10:03:03 am
What happened to Howard? I thought they would be a great addition, and was under the impression it was happening.
Howard declined the invite last month.
Post by: Hammertime on August 03, 2022, 10:41:26 am
Worth noting: the Campbell Camels will join the CAA beginning in 2023-24. With UNC A&T joining as well, we'll be up to 14 teams.
Try to contain yourself.
An interesting proposed division setup on Twitter. Not bad if you ask me.
South
C of C
UNC Wilmington
UNC A&T
Elon
Campbell
Hampton
William & Mary
North
Towson
Delaware
Drexel
Monmouth
Hofstra
Stony Brook
Northeastern
I wonder how that will shape up in Football.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on August 06, 2022, 02:37:05 pm
The additions of Campbell, Monmouth, and A&T don't excite me tbh. I know we're technically one of the newbies to this league so we can't complain, but Campbell? What? I was here expecting Howard to want to make the move any minute now....
Post by: Accelerator on August 06, 2022, 04:14:54 pm
Post by: Checkmate on August 09, 2022, 03:47:53 pm
Post by: Redwyn on August 09, 2022, 04:02:22 pm
I far preferred the CAA when it was just 12 and we were coming along with Monmouth and Hampton. And even then, I did not like Hampton and thought we were the clear prize jewel in that group.
While I will not argue with the difference in academic bona fides between us and these institutions, I suspect that Campbell, NC A&T and even Monmouth will outdraw us and in many sports outperform us.
My hope is that the athletic conference does what it's supposed to - make us play up to what is a largely better group of programs than ours at the present. We have the size and resource potential to exceed these places, but I do not believe that we are a better athletic program than Campbell or Monmouth at the moment, and NC A&T will quickly surpass us.
Programs that I think have a shot at early dominance are our cross country programs, our women's basketball team, and our men's/women's lax program. Baseball and softball will be fringe competitors. We will be buried in MBB and football until we shape up those programs.
Post by: OldSeawolf on August 14, 2022, 12:25:35 pm
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1558845900834758656?s=21&t=lCBWcBErz5k5XFcdd_M3xw
Post by: Accelerator on August 14, 2022, 04:21:27 pm
Post by: Hammertime on August 14, 2022, 04:28:11 pm
It's going to really hurt see everyone refer to him as "Pittsburgh forward Mo Gueye" knowing that he spent more time with us. So painful
I was thinking the same thing, but. Mo would get more serious looks when people know him as a Pitt player who was trained there, opposed to being trained by Geno Ford from Stony brook
Post by: Checkmate on November 07, 2022, 03:10:41 pm
Gallagher resigns at Hartford. Oh by the way, tipoff's in about 24 hours. They could be bottom five in the country, which of course is meaningless to the Hartford admin now that they're dropping down.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 07, 2022, 04:37:46 pm
Post by: Checkmate on November 08, 2022, 10:47:20 am
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 08, 2022, 11:01:49 am
Post by: Checkmate on November 08, 2022, 03:18:12 pm
Charleston at North Carolina
Towson at UMass
Hofstra vs. Iona
Delaware at Air Force
Drexel vs. Old Dominion
Northeastern at Providence
Monmouth at Seton Hall
UNC A&T at Iowa
Elon at East Tennessee State
Hampton at James Madison
Post by: nyrfan1013 on November 16, 2022, 12:45:21 pm
Post by: Checkmate on November 16, 2022, 03:44:16 pm
Anthony Lamb is getting good minutes with the warriors, and points.
Good find. I had no idea.
Another ICYMI, Tykei Greene has averaged 8.5 ppg over the first two games for Kansas State. He's coming off the bench and giving them about 20 minutes a night.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 16, 2022, 06:49:06 pm
Post by: Hammertime on November 16, 2022, 07:05:40 pm
https://nypost.com/2022/11/16/ex-albany-player-luke-fizulich-sues-dwayne-killings-school/
I hope Luke collects millions and the HC is terminated. Enough is enough with this Racist, SUNY, crap.. SUNY schools are taking this to the next level.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 16, 2022, 08:46:07 pm
Anthony Lamb is getting good minutes with the warriors, and points.
Not surprising. He was clearly a beast as we all know....
Post by: OldSeawolf on November 17, 2022, 10:02:35 am
Anthony Lamb is getting good minutes with the warriors, and points.
Not surprising. He was clearly a beast as we all know....
What happened to the sexual assault charge against him? Does NBA status wipe the slate clean for him?
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 17, 2022, 04:15:56 pm
Anthony Lamb is getting good minutes with the warriors, and points.
Not surprising. He was clearly a beast as we all know....
What happened to the sexual assault charge against him? Does NBA status wipe the slate clean for him?
My understanding is that allegations were made, but no charges ever filed
Post by: Accelerator on November 19, 2022, 10:59:16 am
https://nypost.com/2022/11/16/ex-albany-player-luke-fizulich-sues-dwayne-killings-school/
SUNY sports are going great!
Geno has been terrible, but at least he hasn't "violently and viciously grabbed a player, threw him up against a locker and struck him in the face, drawing blood." Yet. At least that we know of.
Post by: Checkmate on December 19, 2022, 11:18:02 am
Tykei's averaging four points and two boards in about 14 minutes of action for Kansas State. They're looking good at 10-1 on the season. I wonder how he likes it there.
Similar stat line for Payton Shumpert over at Division II Daemen. Four points, two boards in limited action.
Mo Diallo is averaging 8 and 7 for Division II UT Tyler.
Tavin Pierre Philippe had 18 points in a game on December 3 for NAIA Florida Memorial but that's his only appearance. Not sure what's up there.
Juwan White is averaging six points, two boards and two assists for Division II Texas A&M International. About 20 minutes a night.
I'm just glad that, in many cases, these guys have gone somewhere and gotten good minutes, and they're mostly playing for winning programs.
Last but not least, Jules Moor is averaging 19 and 9 for NAIA North Texas-Dallas. Two of his 32 the other night came on this dunk. Worth a look.
https://twitter.com/PRO21GE/status/1602284261167583235?s=20&t=Go2SwYml4-HUanhutUAWXA
Post by: Chairman of the Board on December 19, 2022, 11:29:12 am
regarding moor- remember, there IS precedent for players returning after transfering! nice dunk.
Post by: factorykitten on December 19, 2022, 03:23:04 pm
In news that is perhaps only interesting to me ...
Tykei's averaging four points and two boards in about 14 minutes of action for Kansas State. They're looking good at 10-1 on the season. I wonder how he likes it there.
Similar stat line for Payton Shumpert over at Division II Daemen. Four points, two boards in limited action.
Mo Diallo is averaging 8 and 7 for Division II UT Tyler.
Tavin Pierre Philippe had 18 points in a game on December 3 for NAIA Florida Memorial but that's his only appearance. Not sure what's up there.
Juwan White is averaging six points, two boards and two assists for Division II Texas A&M International. About 20 minutes a night.
I'm just glad that, in many cases, these guys have gone somewhere and gotten good minutes, and they're mostly playing for winning programs.
Last but not least, Jules Moor is averaging 19 and 9 for NAIA North Texas-Dallas. Two of his 32 the other night came on this dunk. Worth a look.
https://twitter.com/PRO21GE/status/1602284261167583235?s=20&t=Go2SwYml4-HUanhutUAWXA
Moor is playing for a larger crowd than SB.
Post by: ibosbu on January 02, 2023, 05:49:25 pm
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35365785/purdue-no-1-charleston-ends-20-year-ap-poll-drought
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 02, 2023, 11:37:30 pm
Charleston enters ranking at #23! 👏👍
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35365785/purdue-no-1-charleston-ends-20-year-ap-poll-drought
Benefits of being in a better conference.... at least perceptually. Even those best Vermont teams never sniffed the top 25.
Of course we're trending backwards as a program, so we've got a ways to go ourselves.
Post by: Redwyn on January 03, 2023, 08:35:40 am
Post by: sbupatriots on January 03, 2023, 11:26:08 am
In news that is perhaps only interesting to me ...
Tykei's averaging four points and two boards in about 14 minutes of action for Kansas State. They're looking good at 10-1 on the season. I wonder how he likes it there.
Similar stat line for Payton Shumpert over at Division II Daemen. Four points, two boards in limited action.
Mo Diallo is averaging 8 and 7 for Division II UT Tyler.
Tavin Pierre Philippe had 18 points in a game on December 3 for NAIA Florida Memorial but that's his only appearance. Not sure what's up there.
Juwan White is averaging six points, two boards and two assists for Division II Texas A&M International. About 20 minutes a night.
I'm just glad that, in many cases, these guys have gone somewhere and gotten good minutes, and they're mostly playing for winning programs.
Last but not least, Jules Moor is averaging 19 and 9 for NAIA North Texas-Dallas. Two of his 32 the other night came on this dunk. Worth a look.
https://twitter.com/PRO21GE/status/1602284261167583235?s=20&t=Go2SwYml4-HUanhutUAWXA
Geno's had a good couple of weeks but it is amazing how many non-D1 caliber players he's given scholarships to over the past couple years. TO, Frey and Rocco all seem to have D1 potential but would really like to see Geno winning some local recruits in the coming years.
Post by: ecasadoSBU on January 03, 2023, 11:41:01 am
Charleston enters ranking at #23! 👏👍
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35365785/purdue-no-1-charleston-ends-20-year-ap-poll-drought
That's pretty awesome. To have a league team ranked is a big deal for perception and visibility. Everyone that plays charleston will come up in the TV/ESPN Top-25 score tickers
Post by: Checkmate on January 03, 2023, 02:07:22 pm
Charleston enters ranking at #23! 👏👍
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35365785/purdue-no-1-charleston-ends-20-year-ap-poll-drought
That's pretty awesome. To have a league team ranked is a big deal for perception and visibility. Everyone that plays charleston will come up in the TV/ESPN Top-25 score tickers
The wider appeal of the CAA is undeniable. We were sitting here on Saturday, and there was a halftime show, with a panel of experts, on a national outlet that was talking about Stony Brook regular season basketball game. When's the last time that happened? Pete Gillen and Jon Rothstein were talking up guys in our program. Just awesome. Charleston's ascension is only the latest reminder of why this was a good move.
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 03, 2023, 04:40:24 pm
Charleston enters ranking at #23! 👏👍
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35365785/purdue-no-1-charleston-ends-20-year-ap-poll-drought
That's pretty awesome. To have a league team ranked is a big deal for perception and visibility. Everyone that plays charleston will come up in the TV/ESPN Top-25 score tickers
The wider appeal of the CAA is undeniable. We were sitting here on Saturday, and there was a halftime show, with a panel of experts, on a national outlet that was talking about Stony Brook regular season basketball game. When's the last time that happened? Pete Gillen and Jon Rothstein were talking up guys in our program. Just awesome. Charleston's ascension is only the latest reminder of why this was a good move.
'When was this?? We're a 5-9 team and while the CAA isn't in the basement of D1 the way the AE often was, it's a middle of the pack conference by RPI at the moment. Surprising they'd be talking about us like that.
Post by: Checkmate on January 04, 2023, 07:48:31 am
Post by: Knicksbu99 on January 09, 2023, 11:01:59 pm
Post by: Checkmate on January 11, 2023, 07:43:58 pm
UNCW coach’s halftime interview on the court. “We’re not tough enough. We’re way too soft. We’re not tough enough.”
And he walks off. Tirade incoming.
Post by: 82Hawk on January 13, 2023, 03:27:29 pm
Electric atmosphere in Wilmington tonight. Bodies flying everywhere. Not an everyday thing for sure, but UNCW really filled the gym for this one.
UNCW coach’s halftime interview on the court. “We’re not tough enough. We’re way too soft. We’re not tough enough.”
And he walks off. Tirade incoming.
Trask colisuem has been voted as the toughest place to play in the CAA for quite some time. Holds about 5,200 and the entire bleachers section behind the benches is for students, except a small section for opposing players parents. We allow about 1,200 students and put a couple hundred upstairs in the corner behind the bleachers when the bleachers are full. It can get incredibly loud in there since there isn't a lot of room between the court and where the fans sit. Trask was built in the 70's when UNCW had less than 4k students, we're at 18k now so we usually have a decent crowd with about 3-4 sellouts per year. We usually lead the CAA in attendance but CofC has us this year with their success.
Curious about your arena size, student seating, past history of attendance, etc. Some of our northern school have a hard time getting even a decent attendance with Northeastern being the worst by far. Although it looks like Hampton is getting nobody or just isn't reporting attendace since they who about 100 per game so far.
Post by: Checkmate on January 17, 2023, 09:51:54 am
Electric atmosphere in Wilmington tonight. Bodies flying everywhere. Not an everyday thing for sure, but UNCW really filled the gym for this one.
UNCW coach’s halftime interview on the court. “We’re not tough enough. We’re way too soft. We’re not tough enough.”
And he walks off. Tirade incoming.
Trask colisuem has been voted as the toughest place to play in the CAA for quite some time. Holds about 5,200 and the entire bleachers section behind the benches is for students, except a small section for opposing players parents. We allow about 1,200 students and put a couple hundred upstairs in the corner behind the bleachers when the bleachers are full. It can get incredibly loud in there since there isn't a lot of room between the court and where the fans sit. Trask was built in the 70's when UNCW had less than 4k students, we're at 18k now so we usually have a decent crowd with about 3-4 sellouts per year. We usually lead the CAA in attendance but CofC has us this year with their success.
Curious about your arena size, student seating, past history of attendance, etc. Some of our northern school have a hard time getting even a decent attendance with Northeastern being the worst by far. Although it looks like Hampton is getting nobody or just isn't reporting attendace since they who about 100 per game so far.
Nobody answered so here goes.
Island Federal holds 4,160 people, and I would say we're between 1,500 and 2,500 most nights, mostly on the higher side. Anything over 2,500 is a strong showing. We averaged over 2,700 per game for a few seasons a few years ago. It hasn't been stuffed to the gills since the 2016 America East title game I want to say.
Without having traveled to any games elsewhere recently, I would go out on a limb and call it a beautiful arena. However, I wouldn't necessarily call it a tough place to play. The student section is very tame by college basketball standards. They occupy just one end zone and, no matter the showing, aren't going to ride anybody on the opposing team and are rarely/never on their feet. I can't recall a single "bull$hit" chant, which I loathe loathe loathe with kids in the crowd but definitely would have said that and worse as a student myself. I think the community members who go are pretty invested and will cheer, but you can ask 100 people in our area who won last night's game, or when the next game was, or who the best player was and 95 would shrug. It is not a sports town. I think people are too invested in the Giants, Jets, Islanders, Mets, Yankees, maybe the Knicks, to give Stony Brook much of a look (fools!).
I'm interested to see if anything changes with the change in conference. I say minor if at all at least for the short term.
What does everyone else think?
Post by: factorykitten on January 17, 2023, 10:53:11 am
Electric atmosphere in Wilmington tonight. Bodies flying everywhere. Not an everyday thing for sure, but UNCW really filled the gym for this one.
UNCW coach’s halftime interview on the court. “We’re not tough enough. We’re way too soft. We’re not tough enough.”
And he walks off. Tirade incoming.
Trask colisuem has been voted as the toughest place to play in the CAA for quite some time. Holds about 5,200 and the entire bleachers section behind the benches is for students, except a small section for opposing players parents. We allow about 1,200 students and put a couple hundred upstairs in the corner behind the bleachers when the bleachers are full. It can get incredibly loud in there since there isn't a lot of room between the court and where the fans sit. Trask was built in the 70's when UNCW had less than 4k students, we're at 18k now so we usually have a decent crowd with about 3-4 sellouts per year. We usually lead the CAA in attendance but CofC has us this year with their success.
Curious about your arena size, student seating, past history of attendance, etc. Some of our northern school have a hard time getting even a decent attendance with Northeastern being the worst by far. Although it looks like Hampton is getting nobody or just isn't reporting attendace since they who about 100 per game so far.
Nobody answered so here goes.
Island Federal holds 4,160 people, and I would say we're between 1,500 and 2,500 most nights, mostly on the higher side. Anything over 2,500 is a strong showing. We averaged over 2,700 per game for a few seasons a few years ago. It hasn't been stuffed to the gills since the 2016 America East title game I want to say.
Without having traveled to any games elsewhere recently, I would go out on a limb and call it a beautiful arena. However, I wouldn't necessarily call it a tough place to play. The student section is very tame by college basketball standards. They occupy just one end zone and, even no matter the showing, aren't going to ride anybody on the opposing team and are rarely/never on their feet. I can't recall a single "bull$hit" chant, which I loathe loathe loathe with kids in the crowd but definitely would have said that and worse as a student myself. I think the community members who go are pretty invested and will cheer, but you can ask 100 people in our area who won last night's game, or when the next game was, or who the best player was and 95 would shrug. It is not a sports town. I think people are too invested in the Giants, Jets, Islanders, Mets, Yankees, maybe the Knicks, to give Stony Brook much of a look (fools!).
I'm interested to see if anything changes with the change in conference. I say minor if at all at least for the short term.
What does everyone else think?
I will say that Island federal arena hasn't seen a crowd of 1800 in years. The attendance they post after a game is very inflated. The Drexel game had 1200 at most. the entire area above the suites was very empty and the main side was maybe 75% full. Students dont understand the game. Pritchard was a very challenging place to play and Will Brown and others said it on many occasions but since heilbron has gotten here he and emerich have driven season ticket holders away and have no idea how to get Long Islander's to games. Lets be real.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 17, 2023, 11:14:00 am
in fact, if you asked 100 locals id bet the response you'd get is- SBU has a division I program?
Post by: ibosbu on January 17, 2023, 11:41:21 am
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Post by: Knicksbu99 on January 17, 2023, 12:17:09 pm
Post by: Accelerator on January 17, 2023, 01:28:31 pm
I always thought Northeastern had cooler people as students but woof 740 is disgraceful.
Post by: Hammertime on January 17, 2023, 02:35:55 pm
Electric atmosphere in Wilmington tonight. Bodies flying everywhere. Not an everyday thing for sure, but UNCW really filled the gym for this one.
UNCW coach’s halftime interview on the court. “We’re not tough enough. We’re way too soft. We’re not tough enough.”
And he walks off. Tirade incoming.
Trask colisuem has been voted as the toughest place to play in the CAA for quite some time. Holds about 5,200 and the entire bleachers section behind the benches is for students, except a small section for opposing players parents. We allow about 1,200 students and put a couple hundred upstairs in the corner behind the bleachers when the bleachers are full. It can get incredibly loud in there since there isn't a lot of room between the court and where the fans sit. Trask was built in the 70's when UNCW had less than 4k students, we're at 18k now so we usually have a decent crowd with about 3-4 sellouts per year. We usually lead the CAA in attendance but CofC has us this year with their success.
Curious about your arena size, student seating, past history of attendance, etc. Some of our northern school have a hard time getting even a decent attendance with Northeastern being the worst by far. Although it looks like Hampton is getting nobody or just isn't reporting attendace since they who about 100 per game so far.
Nobody answered so here goes.
Island Federal holds 4,160 people, and I would say we're between 1,500 and 2,500 most nights, mostly on the higher side. Anything over 2,500 is a strong showing. We averaged over 2,700 per game for a few seasons a few years ago. It hasn't been stuffed to the gills since the 2016 America East title game I want to say.
Without having traveled to any games elsewhere recently, I would go out on a limb and call it a beautiful arena. However, I wouldn't necessarily call it a tough place to play. The student section is very tame by college basketball standards. They occupy just one end zone and, no matter the showing, aren't going to ride anybody on the opposing team and are rarely/never on their feet. I can't recall a single "bull$hit" chant, which I loathe loathe loathe with kids in the crowd but definitely would have said that and worse as a student myself. I think the community members who go are pretty invested and will cheer, but you can ask 100 people in our area who won last night's game, or when the next game was, or who the best player was and 95 would shrug. It is not a sports town. I think people are too invested in the Giants, Jets, Islanders, Mets, Yankees, maybe the Knicks, to give Stony Brook much of a look (fools!).
I'm interested to see if anything changes with the change in conference. I say minor if at all at least for the short term.
What does everyone else think?
It really is quite simple. Win games and people will show up to watch. Bring in big-name HC and recruit star players. That's it. That is all you need to do to bring the crowd into SBU. Ths same thing can be said for Football. Get rid of the sleuth HC. Hire somebody with ties to the South, win games and LaVale stadium will be pact
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 17, 2023, 02:59:14 pm
when MBB was in its relative hey-day, sure pritchard is small (1200?) but were the selling out every game? i don't recall.
not exactly equivalent but:
-WLAX wins. do they get enough fans?
-what about our CWS team in 2012?
-WBB has had some great runs in the past few years. is attendance reflective?
Post by: sbupatriots on January 17, 2023, 03:31:50 pm
Electric atmosphere in Wilmington tonight. Bodies flying everywhere. Not an everyday thing for sure, but UNCW really filled the gym for this one.
UNCW coach’s halftime interview on the court. “We’re not tough enough. We’re way too soft. We’re not tough enough.”
And he walks off. Tirade incoming.
Trask colisuem has been voted as the toughest place to play in the CAA for quite some time. Holds about 5,200 and the entire bleachers section behind the benches is for students, except a small section for opposing players parents. We allow about 1,200 students and put a couple hundred upstairs in the corner behind the bleachers when the bleachers are full. It can get incredibly loud in there since there isn't a lot of room between the court and where the fans sit. Trask was built in the 70's when UNCW had less than 4k students, we're at 18k now so we usually have a decent crowd with about 3-4 sellouts per year. We usually lead the CAA in attendance but CofC has us this year with their success.
Curious about your arena size, student seating, past history of attendance, etc. Some of our northern school have a hard time getting even a decent attendance with Northeastern being the worst by far. Although it looks like Hampton is getting nobody or just isn't reporting attendace since they who about 100 per game so far.
Nobody answered so here goes.
Island Federal holds 4,160 people, and I would say we're between 1,500 and 2,500 most nights, mostly on the higher side. Anything over 2,500 is a strong showing. We averaged over 2,700 per game for a few seasons a few years ago. It hasn't been stuffed to the gills since the 2016 America East title game I want to say.
Without having traveled to any games elsewhere recently, I would go out on a limb and call it a beautiful arena. However, I wouldn't necessarily call it a tough place to play. The student section is very tame by college basketball standards. They occupy just one end zone and, no matter the showing, aren't going to ride anybody on the opposing team and are rarely/never on their feet. I can't recall a single "bull$hit" chant, which I loathe loathe loathe with kids in the crowd but definitely would have said that and worse as a student myself. I think the community members who go are pretty invested and will cheer, but you can ask 100 people in our area who won last night's game, or when the next game was, or who the best player was and 95 would shrug. It is not a sports town. I think people are too invested in the Giants, Jets, Islanders, Mets, Yankees, maybe the Knicks, to give Stony Brook much of a look (fools!).
I'm interested to see if anything changes with the change in conference. I say minor if at all at least for the short term.
What does everyone else think?
Have to take some offense to this. Was a student from 2012-16 and it got pretty personal against AE opponents. We knew every coach and player and used plenty of profanity. I can remember especially riding Bill Herrion over the years. I think we had a top 2 and maybe even the top student section in the AE. Granted the AE didnt have great fan support and those were probably the best years for MBB. I think if we can get some continuity in terms of players and more winning we can be a top 3 fan support school in the CAA behind UNCW and CoC. It mattered that by 15-16 we knew Jameel and Puriefoy on a more personal level and you as a student were going to support them as much as people as players.
Post by: Checkmate on January 17, 2023, 03:47:59 pm
Electric atmosphere in Wilmington tonight. Bodies flying everywhere. Not an everyday thing for sure, but UNCW really filled the gym for this one.
UNCW coach’s halftime interview on the court. “We’re not tough enough. We’re way too soft. We’re not tough enough.”
And he walks off. Tirade incoming.
Trask colisuem has been voted as the toughest place to play in the CAA for quite some time. Holds about 5,200 and the entire bleachers section behind the benches is for students, except a small section for opposing players parents. We allow about 1,200 students and put a couple hundred upstairs in the corner behind the bleachers when the bleachers are full. It can get incredibly loud in there since there isn't a lot of room between the court and where the fans sit. Trask was built in the 70's when UNCW had less than 4k students, we're at 18k now so we usually have a decent crowd with about 3-4 sellouts per year. We usually lead the CAA in attendance but CofC has us this year with their success.
Curious about your arena size, student seating, past history of attendance, etc. Some of our northern school have a hard time getting even a decent attendance with Northeastern being the worst by far. Although it looks like Hampton is getting nobody or just isn't reporting attendace since they who about 100 per game so far.
Nobody answered so here goes.
Island Federal holds 4,160 people, and I would say we're between 1,500 and 2,500 most nights, mostly on the higher side. Anything over 2,500 is a strong showing. We averaged over 2,700 per game for a few seasons a few years ago. It hasn't been stuffed to the gills since the 2016 America East title game I want to say.
Without having traveled to any games elsewhere recently, I would go out on a limb and call it a beautiful arena. However, I wouldn't necessarily call it a tough place to play. The student section is very tame by college basketball standards. They occupy just one end zone and, no matter the showing, aren't going to ride anybody on the opposing team and are rarely/never on their feet. I can't recall a single "bull$hit" chant, which I loathe loathe loathe with kids in the crowd but definitely would have said that and worse as a student myself. I think the community members who go are pretty invested and will cheer, but you can ask 100 people in our area who won last night's game, or when the next game was, or who the best player was and 95 would shrug. It is not a sports town. I think people are too invested in the Giants, Jets, Islanders, Mets, Yankees, maybe the Knicks, to give Stony Brook much of a look (fools!).
I'm interested to see if anything changes with the change in conference. I say minor if at all at least for the short term.
What does everyone else think?
Have to take some offense to this. Was a student from 2012-16 and it got pretty personal against AE opponents. We knew every coach and player and used plenty of profanity. I can remember especially riding Bill Herrion over the years. I think we had a top 2 and maybe even the top student section in the AE. Granted the AE didnt have great fan support and those were probably the best years for MBB. I think if we can get some continuity in terms of players and more winning we can be a top 3 fan support school in the CAA behind UNCW and CoC. It mattered that by 15-16 we knew Jameel and Puriefoy on a more personal level and you as a student were going to support them as much as people as players.
From where I was sitting, I don't recall it getting especially boisterous/contentious on a regular basis, but you were in the thick of it and lived it so I believe you. I could see the students getting after the Duncans. I do recall the HUCK FARTFORD fans one time. That's the kind of effort we need. When an opposing player's at the FT line, somebody should hold up a poster of a photo from their/their girlfriend's/their mom's Instagram just to divert their eye/attention. I'm not sure the administration would allow it for long though. Too buttoned-up.
Agreed on the need for continuity. I'm hoping that ship hasn't completely sailed.
Post by: factorykitten on January 17, 2023, 03:52:37 pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 17, 2023, 09:20:37 pm
as for the bottom, yes, if you trust kenpon, we have 3 teams in the bottom 17, out of 363 teams. they're combined 6-49. https://kenpom.com/index.php
Post by: Accelerator on January 17, 2023, 11:38:03 pm
This is what real student sections do
Post by: Hammertime on January 18, 2023, 01:13:44 pm
https://twitter.com/tceonsgpn/status/1615549726119854080?s=46&t=4HlxRE-ucQdJnE418_uxAQ
This is what real student sections do
The sad thing is. If we had a real Athletic Director like Mat Larson, who SBU lost and went to NDSU. SBU could easily have a student section like that. But this school decided to go in a very different direction.
Post by: Checkmate on January 18, 2023, 04:51:21 pm
https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1615827534624481280?s=20&t=xxmeRYQUCPCn7FXnbH6k5g
Post by: Hammertime on January 18, 2023, 06:42:31 pm
We need something like this for when Elon shows up and they'll wonder what the hell we have against them.
https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1615827534624481280?s=20&t=xxmeRYQUCPCn7FXnbH6k5g
The only way SBU ever will see something like that again is if Warney becomes the HC
Post by: sbu1991 on January 18, 2023, 11:02:34 pm
We need something like this for when Elon shows up and they'll wonder what the hell we have against them.
https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1615827534624481280?s=20&t=xxmeRYQUCPCn7FXnbH6k5g
The only way SBU ever will see something like that again is if Warney becomes the HC
Last I checked Warney was playing well in Korea. He would be a great candidate for the next BB HC, tho, I think Ford has done a good job this year.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 18, 2023, 11:18:57 pm
maybe even if the season ended today.
so let's see what the next 6 weeks looks like but he certainly has outpaced expectations by doing more with less.
Post by: sbu1991 on January 18, 2023, 11:44:31 pm
he has, and, when you consider the adversity, it's a great job he's done.
maybe even if the season ended today.
so let's see what the next 6 weeks looks like but he certainly has outpaced expectations by doing more with less.
We'll see how well Ford adjusts to the adjustments.
Post by: Accelerator on January 19, 2023, 02:52:41 am
Post by: Checkmate on January 19, 2023, 09:36:48 am
Post by: guest410 on January 19, 2023, 10:11:15 am
Hiring the star player to come back as head coach doesn't always work. Look at Ewing at Georgetown right now, that's a disaster that will end up with some terribly burned bridges at the end of it.
My favorite part of this is Jeff Goodman tweeting after every Georgetown loss to a high-major or Big-East foe.
Post by: Hammertime on January 19, 2023, 01:57:22 pm
Hiring the star player to come back as head coach doesn't always work. Look at Ewing at Georgetown right now, that's a disaster that will end up with some terribly burned bridges at the end of it.
You really can’t compare the NBA to a mid major school. Warney would bring in better players to SBU then Ford can, by far.
Warney of course will need to learn how to be a HC first, before he can coach. But I do believe he would do great in recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on January 19, 2023, 04:25:23 pm
Someone needs to explain to me what makes a former player with no coaching experience whatsoever a suitable candidate for a mid-major head coaching position. To boot, he's 29, but let's leave age out of it in favor of credentials. Absolute legend here but come on. You can't draw the comparison to Ewing because he coached in the NBA for 15 years (but has, yes, been a disaster there). Juwan Howard, Jerry Stackhouse, Damon Stoudamire, they all put in a lot of time before getting a chance. Chris Mullin is a better analogy and he was an unmitigated disaster at St. John's. Just one example, but I'd be surprised if there were many/any wild success stories with coaches who hadn't put in the time. And maybe Warney does that, but that's a loooong way away.
I'm not sure if using Deon Sanders as an example is a good example, but I'll give it a shot anyways. Prime only coaching experience he ever had was in High School. But because of his celebrity status and his amazing time playing in the NFL as arguably the best CB who ever played the sport, turned out to be pretty good for JSU. He was able to bring in top 4 and 5 star players to transfer to JSU or recruit out of high school. Now that Prime is with Colorado, he appears to be doing the same thing.
Would Warney be another Deon Sanders? I don't know but I'm willing to put my money on it that he would fill seats and bring in better players than Geno Ford could ever bring in. Prove me wrong...
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 19, 2023, 05:35:52 pm
the issue is that all coaches have a bad season here and there- sometimes two consecutive- even belichick, saban, virtually no one is immune.
thus, when that happens, especially given today's world of coaches having very short leashes and seats get warm quickly- then he's out.
and then youre in a situation where you've just fired your all time best player, and it cost a lot of money to both hire and fire, and then find someone new. and that's his legacy. not winning the first/only AE title with 43 points in 40 minutes.
Post by: factorykitten on January 20, 2023, 10:15:51 am
Post by: Checkmate on January 20, 2023, 11:19:26 am
I dont see jameel coming any where near sbu while hielbron is here. Heilbron blew it when he didnt hire Jay Young. I would rather have a young assistant who has the energy that Pikiel brought to sbu when he built the program. the two head coaches of sbu football and basketball avoid our fan base and have no connection to the community and it shows.
I know nothing about Jay or his connection to the community, and I would have supported hiring him a few years ago, but just looking at results, he took over a Fairfield program that finished at .500 or above in conference six times in the 2010s and made six postseason tournaments. Jay's teams were under .500 in each of his first three seasons and they're under .500 now. Geno's been over .500 twice. That said, I feel like we've seen bad basketball under Geno (better this year), whereas Fairfield plays boring basketball.
Jameel's not coming anywhere near SBU because it would be i n s a n e to hire him as a head coach at this point in his life. Maybe someday though.
Post by: Knicksbu99 on January 20, 2023, 01:32:09 pm
Post by: Hammertime on January 20, 2023, 03:33:00 pm
Warney would need some experience coaching first i’d imagine. Not sure why some think he would be a great recruiter he’s not a high profile player like deion sanders. Geno has had the misfortune of some exogenous forces postseason ban and unreal injury luck. But he’s a mediocre to slightly above coach not gonna take Stony brook to the next level I assume he just runs out his contract and they part ways and the AD goes after a power 5 assistant. Geno’s problem to me hasn’t really been recruiting its been the play style. There are two all league Point guards on the bench. Having even one the season is vastly different.
I agree. Warney would no doubt need some coaching experience first. Maybe an assistant under his old coach. Pikel. Then make that jump to HC at SBU.
Post by: Hammertime on January 20, 2023, 03:37:01 pm
Warney would need some experience coaching first i’d imagine. Not sure why some think he would be a great recruiter he’s not a high profile player like deion sanders. Geno has had the misfortune of some exogenous forces postseason ban and unreal injury luck. But he’s a mediocre to slightly above coach not gonna take Stony brook to the next level I assume he just runs out his contract and they part ways and the AD goes after a power 5 assistant. Geno’s problem to me hasn’t really been recruiting its been the play style. There are two all league Point guards on the bench. Having even one the season is vastly different.
Dont forget about 90% of his players leaving the team last year.
Geno is not a good coach. His record over his coaching career proves that. I do believe Warney, if given a chance, would be much better at recruiting than Ford. Warney now has NBA experience and he does have the backing of other coaches in the league.
Post by: guest410 on February 08, 2023, 08:20:08 pm
https://twitter.com/TheFieldOf68/status/1623486852475809792?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Post by: ibosbu on February 09, 2023, 01:51:32 am
“CAA Commissioner Joe D’Antonio is holding a press conference tomorrow to discuss the conference’s media rights agreements. Will update after it ends.”
I hope this is the end of Flo. But likely another extension.
Post by: seawolfemeritus on February 09, 2023, 09:39:04 am
Jay inherited a disaster from Sydney Johnson, and his first 3 years were spent with cardboard cutouts (covid) and playing in the Bridgeport mausoleum. This is his first year in an actual home arena (same for some of the players). There's another SBU HOF'er who actually has been coaching. Pikiell brought Bryan Dougher back as an assistant, was part of the staff with Jameel's NCAA team, then he brought him to Rutgers, and now he's with Jay at Fairfield.I dont see jameel coming any where near sbu while hielbron is here. Heilbron blew it when he didnt hire Jay Young. I would rather have a young assistant who has the energy that Pikiel brought to sbu when he built the program. the two head coaches of sbu football and basketball avoid our fan base and have no connection to the community and it shows.
I know nothing about Jay or his connection to the community, and I would have supported hiring him a few years ago, but just looking at results, he took over a Fairfield program that finished at .500 or above in conference six times in the 2010s and made six postseason tournaments. Jay's teams were under .500 in each of his first three seasons and they're under .500 now. Geno's been over .500 twice. That said, I feel like we've seen bad basketball under Geno (better this year), whereas Fairfield plays boring basketball.
Jameel's not coming anywhere near SBU because it would be i n s a n e to hire him as a head coach at this point in his life. Maybe someday though.
Post by: Checkmate on February 09, 2023, 02:56:57 pm
Post by: Knicksbu99 on February 09, 2023, 03:18:08 pm
Post by: Hammertime on February 09, 2023, 04:29:45 pm
Kenpom imo is wildly overrated.
Why do you say that? The CAA is horrible this year. Thanks partly due to the newcomers stinking the house up
Post by: Knicksbu99 on February 09, 2023, 04:53:09 pm
Post by: factorykitten on February 09, 2023, 07:27:30 pm
Kenpom imo is wildly overrated.
Wildly overated?
Post by: ecasadoSBU on February 10, 2023, 01:52:05 am
24. America East
25. CAA
This has to be a nightmare
Post by: Chairman of the Board on February 10, 2023, 08:28:12 am
however, i dont think we'd be in the top half of the AE right now. you think this team could beat bingo? unh?
Post by: Checkmate on February 10, 2023, 09:29:05 am
Kenpom imo is wildly overrated.
I have also pondered its legitimacy before, but concluded that there's a lot to it. But then you look at the Vegas spreads and they're almost in lockstep with KenPom. I also like how it breaks the game down further than just FG%, points, etc. The most noticeable flaw is that, with its predictions, it's all data driven and doesn't take injuries into account.
Post by: Accelerator on February 10, 2023, 11:18:53 am
Post by: ry1nik on February 10, 2023, 06:20:56 pm
This is why I like Sagarin ratings. One of the three ratings is based on “Recency,” which indirectly takes injuries into accountKenpom imo is wildly overrated.
I have also pondered its legitimacy before, but concluded that there's a lot to it. But then you look at the Vegas spreads and they're almost in lockstep with KenPom. I also like how it breaks the game down further than just FG%, points, etc. The most noticeable flaw is that, with its predictions, it's all data driven and doesn't take injuries into account.
http://sagarin.com/sports/cbsend.htm
Post by: Checkmate on February 25, 2023, 09:18:04 pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 06, 2023, 08:57:14 pm
Post by: sbupatriots on March 06, 2023, 10:29:09 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 06, 2023, 11:27:47 pm
Yeah, I’m glad we made the move.
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 07, 2023, 06:20:17 am
Absolute heart-stopping night of basketball in the CAA. Charleston/Towson was like a steel cage match. Towson fans may raise hell about the free throw totals.
Yeah, I’m glad we made the move.
Yeah, those were 2 amazing games! CoC/Towson was one of the most physical bball games I've seen in a long while.
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 07, 2023, 09:55:50 am
Post by: NJ Seawolf on March 07, 2023, 12:53:50 pm
UNCW, CoC, Hofstra, Towson would probably all be ahead of Vermont. The quality of basketball isn’t comparable. The bottom of the conference did drag CAA down but those teams have potential.
Post by: sbupatriots on March 07, 2023, 03:23:26 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 07, 2023, 04:49:36 pm
Just wish we hadn't added Hampton and Campbell. Not sure how those two schools help.
Hampton and Campbell fans: "I just wish we hadn't added Stony Brook. Not sure how that helps."
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 07, 2023, 05:08:02 pm
Post by: NJ Seawolf on March 07, 2023, 05:27:00 pm
Post by: factorykitten on March 07, 2023, 05:30:03 pm
Best newcomer team with a skeleton crew roster. We will be a top 5/6 team yearly book it.
Id like to agree with you but that wont happen with Geno as hc and not with Heilbron as ad.
Post by: Checkmate on March 07, 2023, 09:20:46 pm
Post by: sbupatriots on March 07, 2023, 09:22:38 pm
Post by: Hammertime on March 07, 2023, 09:24:09 pm
Best newcomer team with a skeleton crew roster. We will be a top 5/6 team yearly book it.
I doubt that!!
Post by: Hammertime on March 07, 2023, 09:25:11 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 07, 2023, 09:37:23 pm
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Post by: Checkmate on March 08, 2023, 03:10:31 pm
https://twitter.com/portal_updates/status/1633559192102469633?s=20
He'll land somewhere good. One of many many graduates who may want to see what's out there with their remaining year(s) of eligibility.
Post by: Checkmate on March 10, 2023, 09:53:56 am
It was nice to see Tykei on the big stage last night, albeit minimally and in a losing effort. He'll be in the tournament next week. Glad somebody's getting there.
Most bracketologists have Charleston on the 12 line, with some at 11 and 13. If a team is at one point ranked, loses a couple games two months ago and wins out, does that really drop them to 45-55? Rankings are so backward.
Post by: guest410 on March 11, 2023, 12:50:26 pm
Post by: Accelerator on March 11, 2023, 05:38:03 pm
Post by: Hammertime on March 12, 2023, 06:55:58 am
Buffalo fires Jim Whitesell after 4 years; 70-49 overall and 45-27 in the MAC, but went one and done in 3 of his 4 years. That's a New York school that at least knows they can't take mediocrity.
One more reason why I am done with SBU athletics. UB HC contract is being bought out because of this firing. He is set to receive $500,000 as a parting gift. Geno Ford has one more year left on his contract, but Heilbron won't let him go because SBU can't afford to pay out his remaining contract??
https://buffalonews.com/sports/college/ub-mens-basketball-coach-jim-whitesell-out-after-four-seasons/article_d7489c14-c01b-11ed-8605-fb6479a3ae52.html
Post by: ibosbu on March 12, 2023, 11:49:52 am
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 12, 2023, 01:23:29 pm
Year 2030… Hammertime is extremely frustrated with Stony Brook athletics and solemnly declares for the 478th time “I am done with SBU athletics.”
I'm assuming this is satire, but the only thing worse for an athletic program than frustrated fans is apathetic fans. With how bad things have been going, SBU is lucky there are still fans who care at all...
Post by: ry1nik on March 12, 2023, 02:59:54 pm
Post by: guest410 on March 12, 2023, 06:21:38 pm
Post by: Hammertime on March 12, 2023, 06:28:17 pm
Year 2030… Hammertime is extremely frustrated with Stony Brook athletics and solemnly declares for the 478th time “I am done with SBU athletics.”
Keep cheering for your Seawolves, pal. Maybe in 2030, your boy Chucky cheese will make the first round of the FCS playoffs against Wofford, or Sacred Heart. And Maybe Geno Ford goes 500 in the CAA!!!
Post by: Hammertime on March 12, 2023, 06:39:11 pm
Charelston is a 12 seed. I don't know much about the AE, so I'm curious if this is the highest ever seed for a team in an SBU conference, or has there been higher.
I thought Vermont was a 11th seed against Syracuse and won the first round. But I could be wrong. This was a long time ago..
Post by: Hammertime on March 12, 2023, 06:44:41 pm
Post by: ibosbu on March 12, 2023, 11:30:30 pm
Year 2030… Hammertime is extremely frustrated with Stony Brook athletics and solemnly declares for the 478th time “I am done with SBU athletics.”
Keep cheering for your Seawolves, pal. Maybe in 2030, your boy Chucky cheese will make the first round of the FCS playoffs against Wofford, or Sacred Heart. And Maybe Geno Ford goes 500 in the CAA!!!
I will be keep cheering for my Seawolves even if they are lost cause.
I said it in a jest… but despite all your negativity towards this program, I think deep down you probably have a soft spot for the Seawolves. So if you are still around by 2030, I hope, instead of disparaging the program, you get to root for a team that is CAA champions multiple times in both bball and fb.
And yes I am very much in the camp of Let’s Fire both Priore and Ford asap. I just don’t think they are anything special. Priore is an NEC level coach and I just can’t stand his playing style. We play the most boring predictable archaic passive football in CAA. Priore will likely go 1-7/2-6 in CAA again this year. Geno is a sub .500 mid-major coach like you said and I got super excited by the fake news of his firing.
But as a fan, when the teams are back on the turf/court, I will be keep cheering for them to win each and every single game. Now that it seems like we are stuck with Geno for another year, I will be rooting for the boys to win the CAA next season and make it to the tourney. If that means more years of Geno be it. On the other hand, I suspect, you would rather see the Team go winless next season under Geno.
Post by: ibosbu on March 12, 2023, 11:40:27 pm
CAA with one bid Charleston seed 12.
Every year, A10 is becoming less attractive. Doesn’t look that ahead of CAA. With right circumstances, I can see CAA getting two bids in future.
Post by: Hammertime on March 13, 2023, 07:37:10 am
Year 2030… Hammertime is extremely frustrated with Stony Brook athletics and solemnly declares for the 478th time “I am done with SBU athletics.”
Keep cheering for your Seawolves, pal. Maybe in 2030, your boy Chucky cheese will make the first round of the FCS playoffs against Wofford, or Sacred Heart. And Maybe Geno Ford goes 500 in the CAA!!!
I will be keep cheering for my Seawolves even if they are lost cause.
I said it in a jest… but despite all your negativity towards this program, I think deep down you probably have a soft spot for the Seawolves. So if you are still around by 2030, I hope, instead of disparaging the program, you get to root for a team that is CAA champions multiple times in both bball and fb.
And yes I am very much in the camp of Let’s Fire both Priore and Ford asap. I just don’t think they are anything special. Priore is an NEC level coach and I just can’t stand his playing style. We play the most boring predictable archaic passive football in CAA. Priore will likely go 1-7/2-6 in CAA again this year. Geno is a sub .500 mid-major coach like you said and I got super excited by the fake news of his firing.
But as a fan, when the teams are back on the turf/court, I will be keep cheering for them to win each and every single game. Now that it seems like we are stuck with Geno for another year, I will be rooting for the boys to win the CAA next season and make it to the tourney. If that means more years of Geno be it. On the other hand, I suspect, you would rather see the Team go winless next season under Geno.
See, here's the problem with this athletic program. They really don't care if you cheer them on to win or lose. They really don't care if they win or lose. The athletic administration has a state budget that must be within its means, with or without season ticket holders, or just fans buying tickets or not. And that is my gripe with SBU.
As I said in the past. I am only here for their sports program, nothing else. I did not attend SBU but my senior son is graduating this May, so. There might be a little connection there, considering my tuition money goes to SBU, but that's okay. I have no qualms with their academic program because I know SBU is a highly respected program for that. In medicine and STEM studies that is.
This athletic program is very okay with losing every game in ALL sports. it doesn't matter. Coaches don't get fired. AD can just spew his weekly talking points and excite the Presidents and State with nonsense talk. Nothing matters in sports here, nothing... Why are some people still cheering on SBU football and basketball? Most likely because they are family and friends of players. Or like me who lives around the corner from the university, just something to do. But how much more are fans supposed to sit back spend money on tickets, donate money, and watch their local college sports program fail with no plan to change, and get better? Not me or dozens of other season ticket holders I know and have spoken to over the years, hence. The pathetic attendance at all of the sporting events lately.
If and when SBU changes its tune, and cleans house. Then I will come back, but I can't keep supporting a program that sticks its middle fingers up at donors and fans. And yes, Priore did give me the middle finger on a televised game years ago. He is a real POS. But Hey.. This is what SBU likes. Go WOKE, go broke and this athletic dept needs to go broke, but they never will because of taxpayers' money..... Oh, and yes. I hope Chucky Cheese loses every game this coming football season. The same with Geno Ford.
Post by: Checkmate on March 13, 2023, 07:39:05 am
No CBI representation for the CAA.
More movement in the transfer portal: Jamarii Thomas is out at UNCW. I like his game. It should be a busy week on a portal so we'll have to keep an eye on it. One name that jumped out at me was Andre Snoddy, a kid from Melville who averaged 9.5 points and 8.4 boards at Central Connecticut State. What's interesting is he entered the portal last year but returned to CCSU. I was disappointed to see that he didn't make any of the NEC teams with those numbers, but I think he could help in an Omar Habwe kind of way here. Before dismissing the school, consider the schools that Charleston drew players from. It's this big puzzle and we have two guys between 6-4 and 6-10 (and I have no idea how many roster spots ... but we have a lot of small guards and non-rebounding bigs!).
Post by: Checkmate on March 14, 2023, 10:13:43 am
Also, I read that Caroline McCombs got a second interview for the coaching vacancy at Pitt.
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 14, 2023, 10:16:07 am
Jameer Nelson Jr. to the transfer portal. Big loss for Delaware.
Also, I read that Caroline McCombs got a second interview for the coaching vacancy at Pitt.
Not surprised with Nelson. He's really good, and has his father's name going for him. TBH, I was surprised he was playing for Delaware.
Post by: guest410 on March 14, 2023, 11:44:40 am
Jameer Nelson Jr. to the transfer portal. Big loss for Delaware.
Also, I read that Caroline McCombs got a second interview for the coaching vacancy at Pitt.
Good for McCombs. She's worked hard to get here, and seeing her become a HC in the ACC would be nice.
https://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2023/03/14/pitt-womens-basketball-coaching-search-update/
Post by: Checkmate on March 14, 2023, 03:55:51 pm
Hofstra beating Rutgers would be a nice way to punctuate the CAA's season. It'll be tough though.
Post by: Hammertime on March 14, 2023, 07:52:51 pm
Post by: guest410 on March 14, 2023, 08:56:41 pm
Hofstra playing Rutgers tight in the NIT. These players are so far ahead of SBU. And Hofstra coach, Speedy Clayton, is a class act and is quickly becoming highly respected. Good game at the half…
What a **** game. I'd love to see a seven-game series between these teams.
Post by: Hammertime on March 14, 2023, 09:11:20 pm
Hofstra playing Rutgers tight in the NIT. These players are so far ahead of SBU. And Hofstra coach, Speedy Clayton, is a class act and is quickly becoming highly respected. Good game at the half…
What a **** game. I'd love to see a seven-game series between these teams.
Holy $hit. Hofstra pulls the upset. What a team. I hope they win it all
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 14, 2023, 09:11:50 pm
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Post by: ibosbu on March 15, 2023, 11:05:22 am
Post by: ibosbu on March 15, 2023, 11:07:31 am
Post by: ibosbu on March 15, 2023, 11:42:05 am
Pikiell and the players were quite emotional. I like the great relationship between the coach and the players. He was great with the players at Stony Brook too.
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 15, 2023, 11:49:15 am
Post by: Accelerator on March 15, 2023, 12:39:08 pm
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 15, 2023, 06:40:48 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 16, 2023, 10:54:33 am
Do we root for or against Vermont?
Post by: ibosbu on March 16, 2023, 02:07:13 pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 16, 2023, 02:41:30 pm
Post by: ibosbu on March 16, 2023, 03:55:23 pm
looks like furman has UVa on the ropes, late.
Furman wins with a wild ending…3 pointer with 2 seconds left.
If Charleston can beat SDST, they play Furman next. Great opportunity to reach Sweet Sixteen.
Post by: Checkmate on March 16, 2023, 04:37:55 pm
Post by: Hammertime on March 16, 2023, 04:53:30 pm
I feel like SDSU is just going to play bully ball in this second half. 22-11 advantage on the glass.
I agree. SDSU players are just to big and physical. There defense is solid
Post by: Hammertime on March 16, 2023, 05:30:19 pm
Post by: guest410 on March 16, 2023, 05:37:16 pm
What a game
Great game, but my god, Charleston has forced so many threes in the second half. And not even ones that were right behind the arc; they're forcing ones from a few feet back. Despite that, they're still grinding away and down 3 with less than 20 seconds to go.
Post by: Checkmate on March 16, 2023, 05:52:24 pm
What a game
Great game, but my god, Charleston has forced so many threes in the second half. And not even ones that were right behind the arc; they're forcing ones from a few feet back. Despite that, they're still grinding away and down 3 with less than 20 seconds to go.
They couldn't really get anything inside either. But you're right. Larson did have two really bad misses – one he had to take that hit the side of the backboard, another at 53-53 that was so forced. Can't make five threes against that team.
I wish we could have seen them try to tie the game after the tough foul call on Scott.
Post by: Hammertime on March 16, 2023, 07:33:01 pm
What a game
Great game, but my god, Charleston has forced so many threes in the second half. And not even ones that were right behind the arc; they're forcing ones from a few feet back. Despite that, they're still grinding away and down 3 with less than 20 seconds to go.
They couldn't really get anything inside either. But you're right. Larson did have two really bad misses – one he had to take that hit the side of the backboard, another at 53-53 that was so forced. Can't make five threes against that team.
I wish we could have seen them try to tie the game after the tough foul call on Scott.
SDSU defense prevented Charleston from scoring many points in the paint. However, they had no choice but to try and stay in the game with the three ball. They made this game competitive, with the top team in the Pack12 conference. Koodos to Charleston. They all plaid like a power 5 team instead of a mid-major team. This is something we never saw in the AE. Even though Vermont had a few years where they were excellent. Let's see if Charleston can continue next season where they left off.
Post by: Accelerator on March 16, 2023, 08:12:45 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 16, 2023, 10:28:55 pm
Also read that, after dropping 17 and 6 on the Lakers Anthony Lamb got bumped up to a full contract with the Warriors, which means he'll be on the playoff roster. He hit the max limit of 50 games for a two-way guy and got the backing of Kerr. Pretty awesome. Didn't see it coming.
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 17, 2023, 10:41:17 am
Pretty cool for Hofstra to get a home game against Cincinnati in the NIT. Or it's at least a little cool. Based on ticket sales, it looks like they'll have a decent crowd too.
Also read that, after dropping 17 and 6 on the Lakers Anthony Lamb got bumped up to a full contract with the Warriors, which means he'll be on the playoff roster. He hit the max limit of 50 games for a two-way guy and got the backing of Kerr. Pretty awesome. Didn't see it coming.
Good for Hofstra. Not sure how an 8 seed gets a home game though - I do remember SBU getting a home game against Illinois in NIT though, due to a concert conflict at Illinois. Maybe the same here.
Amazed that Lamb has made it this far, due to his size and speed. Good for him, but doesn't he still have those sexual allegations hanging over his head back in Vermont ???
Post by: Checkmate on March 18, 2023, 03:49:38 pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 18, 2023, 08:20:35 pm
passing. that's all they did. share the ball. just like st. peter's last year. or vermont every year.
Post by: NJ Seawolf on March 18, 2023, 08:24:58 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 19, 2023, 09:41:12 am
anyone see princeton manhandle missouri from whistle to whistle on its way to the sweet 16?
passing. that's all they did. share the ball. just like st. peter's last year. or vermont every year.
Yeah, I agree, we're old school guys. But the metrics say if you can shoot 33.33% from 3, it's the equivalent of shooting 50% from 2, in terms of total points. Everyone tries to exceed that 33.33% threshold as a team. Surprisingly, we shot 32.2% from 3 this year (seemed worse to me), which equates to 48.3% from 2, which isn't half bad. With more 3's taken, we see more misses overall, which certainly gives the perception of worse shooting, choice of bad shots, etc. The game has certainly changed over the years, for better or for worse.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 20, 2023, 09:41:59 am
which opens up the outside shot of course. if youre on defense, would you rather the offense be predictable, or unpredictable? 8)
obvious but not all attempts are equal. there is situational awareness, who is shooting, is it contested, where on the floor is the attempt, shot clock, is anyone in the paint, what personnel are on the floor. the stats dont tell that story.
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 20, 2023, 10:03:23 am
actually i wasnt even commenting about threes... i just meant they move the ball well. and so they do more with less (we do less with more).
which opens up the outside shot of course. if youre on defense, would you rather the offense be predictable, or unpredictable? 8)
obvious but not all attempts are equal. there is situational awareness, who is shooting, is it contested, where on the floor is the attempt, shot clock, is anyone in the paint, what personnel are on the floor. the stats dont tell that story.
Yeah, all true, and good points. Sounds like an avenue for some additional in-depth Kenpom analysis.
Post by: Checkmate on March 20, 2023, 01:31:21 pm
- Kam Woods and Duncan Powell out at A&T
- Raekwon Horton out at Charleston. He's from nearby Santee, SC, so I wonder what the rationale is. He played a prep year in Vermont so maybe Becker could swoop in?
- Myles Foster, Tahron Allen and Myles Ruth out at Monmouth. All solid role guys.
- 6-9/235 fr C Tyler Houser in at Delaware. He averaged 11 and 5 in his debut year at VMI, shooting 36 percent from three. A solid stretch 4.
Post by: Hammertime on March 20, 2023, 02:19:50 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 20, 2023, 04:37:11 pm
I got a like on Twitter out of Jamel Warney when I tagged his name about SBU desperately needing an HC, and that they need to hire Warney. This is the very first time Warney acknowledged anything associated with his name with coaching and coming back to SBU to coach. Maybe I am reading into this way too much. But it's a start and a spark. Maybe if people start throwing his name out there, the President will take notice.
Although it would be pretty cool to see Warney at SBU, I'd like him to get some coaching training somewhere first (can be at SBU as an assistant). Just remember though, being a great player doesn't make you a great coach. Ewing was a great player, and a great guy, and years after putting in his dues as an Assistant, he flopped big time at Georgetown.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 20, 2023, 07:31:32 pm
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Post by: OldSeawolf on March 20, 2023, 10:09:04 pm
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Post by: Hammertime on March 21, 2023, 03:59:08 am
If I’m stony brook (and Hofstra) I’m looking at the whole st John’s roster right now.. with pitino going there I’m hearing a lot of the team will be leaving.. it seems like Andre curbelo (Illinois transfer, from Long Island) is sucking up to speedy.. he’s tweeting at Hofstra & speedy and liking their tweets.
I could see Hofstra getting a transfer, but not SBU. What has Geno done for anybody lately?? Nothing. He sucks as a HC, and players know this
Post by: Hammertime on March 21, 2023, 04:10:41 am
I got a like on Twitter out of Jamel Warney when I tagged his name about SBU desperately needing an HC, and that they need to hire Warney. This is the very first time Warney acknowledged anything associated with his name with coaching and coming back to SBU to coach. Maybe I am reading into this way too much. But it's a start and a spark. Maybe if people start throwing his name out there, the President will take notice.
Although it would be pretty cool to see Warney at SBU, I'd like him to get some coaching training somewhere first (can be at SBU as an assistant). Just remember though, being a great player doesn't make you a great coach. Ewing was a great player, and a great guy, and years after putting in his dues as an Assistant, he flopped big time at Georgetown.
I understand your point but there are many former NBA and professional coaches who are and have coached in college and did quite well. Speedy from Hofstra is just one example of a recent hire in the CAA.
I think Warney would be great for recruiting, and bringing in some talented high school kids is something this school has not seen in a ver long time..
Post by: nyrfan1013 on March 21, 2023, 06:07:43 am
If I’m stony brook (and Hofstra) I’m looking at the whole st John’s roster right now.. with pitino going there I’m hearing a lot of the team will be leaving.. it seems like Andre curbelo (Illinois transfer, from Long Island) is sucking up to speedy.. he’s tweeting at Hofstra & speedy and liking their tweets.
I could see Hofstra getting a transfer, but not SBU. What has Geno done for anybody lately?? Nothing. He sucks as a HC, and players know this
This is true.. lol..
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 21, 2023, 07:29:45 am
Post by: nyrfan1013 on March 21, 2023, 08:39:58 am
Curbelo to Hofstra would sting. TSM and Policelli were teammates of his. But i believe there are other Luhi Products on St Johns roster who should be targeted by SBU. Curbelo at Hofstra would be a problem in the CAA.
I actually just watched a YouTube of Curbelo and TSM practicing together.. seems like Frankie is tight with curbelo too.. would be a huge pick up, but just a dream.. I would love to get pinzon too, another luhi product lol.
Post by: Checkmate on March 21, 2023, 10:19:40 am
The last thing we need at the moment is another small guard – yes, I'd love to clear room for him. You also have to take the good with the bad with Curbelo. He cannot shoot and some of his turnovers are real head scratchers. But lots and lots of good too.
Of the LuHi guys, I think Traore is more realistic and a better fit.
Post by: ibosbu on March 21, 2023, 11:05:29 am
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 21, 2023, 11:56:48 am
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 21, 2023, 01:18:22 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 21, 2023, 08:23:11 pm
According to the sju fans and sources on the Twitter spaces, pitino will want to pick the players from the transfer portal, and possibly even have some players decommit from schools to come to sju. The current sju players will have an option to stay on the team of course, but playing time will become an issue for them.
Following up on this: https://www.foxnews.com/sports/rick-pitino-most-st-johns-players-wont-be-on-team-next-season
"The one thing I want to be honest with is a lot of the players probably won’t be back on this team because they’re probably not a good fit for me."
What a wild thing to come out and say.
Post by: guest410 on March 21, 2023, 08:35:49 pm
According to the sju fans and sources on the Twitter spaces, pitino will want to pick the players from the transfer portal, and possibly even have some players decommit from schools to come to sju. The current sju players will have an option to stay on the team of course, but playing time will become an issue for them.
Following up on this: https://www.foxnews.com/sports/rick-pitino-most-st-johns-players-wont-be-on-team-next-season
"The one thing I want to be honest with is a lot of the players probably won’t be back on this team because they’re probably not a good fit for me."
What a wild thing to come out and say.
But when Deion Sanders walks into the first meeting and tells the players to hit the portal because he's bringing his "luggage" with him from JSU it was okay? Not looking for a fight or anything, just seeking clarification.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 21, 2023, 08:55:27 pm
or maybe he's just being honest. or maybe the university told him to get new players. maybe he spoke to the team and realized many are already leaving? obviously this is all conjecture!
they hit a home run with this, now all that's left to occur is the letdown.
Post by: nyrfan1013 on March 21, 2023, 09:14:53 pm
Rick Pitino: “I asked about the character of the basketball team. To be honest, I didn’t get glowing reports, but I did get a glowing report on Joel Soriano. We’re gonna bring him to a level he didn’t even think he could reach.”
Post by: guest410 on March 21, 2023, 10:21:05 pm
https://www.si.com/college/2023/03/21/fairleigh-dickinson-promotes-jack-castleberry-head-coach
Post by: Checkmate on March 22, 2023, 09:33:20 am
According to the sju fans and sources on the Twitter spaces, pitino will want to pick the players from the transfer portal, and possibly even have some players decommit from schools to come to sju. The current sju players will have an option to stay on the team of course, but playing time will become an issue for them.
Following up on this: https://www.foxnews.com/sports/rick-pitino-most-st-johns-players-wont-be-on-team-next-season
"The one thing I want to be honest with is a lot of the players probably won’t be back on this team because they’re probably not a good fit for me."
What a wild thing to come out and say.
But when Deion Sanders walks into the first meeting and tells the players to hit the portal because he's bringing his "luggage" with him from JSU it was okay? Not looking for a fight or anything, just seeking clarification.
I don't recall hearing that or remarking on Deion. I think there's just an assumption that a coach will move a few players in and a few players out, but I don't remember a coach going public with his hints that current roster members should look for a new home.
Our coach has his job on the line, so being so overt might not be such a bad idea in a few cases. Too bad there's no media to get the word out.
All in all, the college hoops hot stove is insane with all these people trading places.
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 22, 2023, 09:41:35 am
"He added that he made inquiries about the current team and “to be honest with all of you, I didn’t get glowing reports,” except on Soriano. "
A bit unprofessional to go public like that, IMO, and I'm a big Pitino fan.
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 22, 2023, 09:59:12 am
That's cold blooded to just throw that out in public like that. But he is on a mission. and he know the fan base is hungry for wins. Its probably what the fan base is asking for deep-down but what people don't want to hear in public.
SJU will be a contender soon in the Big East. I follow the Big East a lot. That conference is only getting stronger by the year. Big East has more lives than a cat.
Look at the ACC this year and the Big East. Who would've thought back in 2013 that this would be the current reality?
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Even more cold-blooded is Ed Cooley's departure from Providence to in-conference rival Georgetown. For me that is insane. Especially after Cooley always saying that Providence was his home and right fit. College basketball at the highest level is brutal.
I honestly don't know how Stony Brook can ever climb to this level without deep pockets and an aggressive administration
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 22, 2023, 10:10:29 am
Rick Pitino - SJU
Sean Miller - X
Shaka Smart - MU
Danny Hurley - UCONN
Ed Cooley - GTOWN
Greg McDermott - CU
Shaheen Holloway - SHU
Kyle Neptune - NOVA
Thad Matta - Butler
Tony Stubblefield - DePaul
??? - Providence
Post by: ibosbu on March 22, 2023, 08:38:11 pm
Post by: ibosbu on March 22, 2023, 08:40:17 pm
Big East coaching lineup in no specific order. What a lineup!!!!
Rick Pitino - SJU
Sean Miller - X
Shaka Smart - MU
Danny Hurley - UCONN
Ed Cooley - GTOWN
Greg McDermott - CU
Shaheen Holloway - SHU
Kyle Neptune - NOVA
Thad Matta - Butler
Tony Stubblefield - DePaul
??? - Providence
Kim English to Providence! Makes no sense. What did he achieve at GMU? Have fun coaching amongst some of the most experienced and seasoned coaches.
Post by: guest410 on March 22, 2023, 09:10:30 pm
Twitter rumor PSU interested in Kelsey. Didn’t he just get a raise?
Probably just a rumor started for clickbait. But leaving a school less than a month after receiving a contract extension is not unheard of in college athletics. I don't have any specifics off the top of my head but can google it and get back to you.
Post by: Accelerator on March 22, 2023, 09:16:04 pm
Post by: guest410 on March 22, 2023, 09:18:47 pm
Nate Oats left Buffalo for Alabama 13 days after getting an extension.Thank you
Post by: Checkmate on March 24, 2023, 09:16:48 am
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 24, 2023, 09:32:12 am
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 24, 2023, 02:01:44 pm
Tykei's off to the Elite Eight and KState is the odds-on favorite to win that region now. However, he got a DNP-CD in last night's overtime game. I wonder if that's it for him.
So, as long as Nowell is healthy, Kansas State rolls Florida Atlantic to get to the Final 4.
If you know you could have gotten 30+ mins/game playing for SBU in your last eligible year VERSUS sitting on the bench and getting a front-row seat and guaranteeing that you get to the Final 4, which do you do in retrospect?
Post by: factorykitten on March 24, 2023, 08:08:27 pm
Tykei's off to the Elite Eight and KState is the odds-on favorite to win that region now. However, he got a DNP-CD in last night's overtime game. I wonder if that's it for him.
So, as long as Nowell is healthy, Kansas State rolls Florida Atlantic to get to the Final 4.
If you know you could have gotten 30+ mins/game playing for SBU in your last eligible year VERSUS sitting on the bench and getting a front-row seat and guaranteeing that you get to the Final 4, which do you do in retrospect?
I am pretty sure he was getting paid at KState and that was probably the motivater for him to make that move. SB is far behind on NIL and Heilbron and Emerich arent smart enough to get much going with it.
Post by: ibosbu on March 24, 2023, 10:06:28 pm
Houston is also out. All four #1 seeds are out ::)
Post by: Accelerator on March 24, 2023, 10:46:20 pm
Tykei's off to the Elite Eight and KState is the odds-on favorite to win that region now. However, he got a DNP-CD in last night's overtime game. I wonder if that's it for him.
So, as long as Nowell is healthy, Kansas State rolls Florida Atlantic to get to the Final 4.
If you know you could have gotten 30+ mins/game playing for SBU in your last eligible year VERSUS sitting on the bench and getting a front-row seat and guaranteeing that you get to the Final 4, which do you do in retrospect?
I am pretty sure he was getting paid at KState and that was probably the motivater for him to make that move. SB is far behind on NIL and Heilbron and Emerich arent smart enough to get much going with it.
It's infuriating how horrible Heilbron has been with NIL.
Post by: Checkmate on March 25, 2023, 11:03:10 pm
Tykei's off to the Elite Eight and KState is the odds-on favorite to win that region now. However, he got a DNP-CD in last night's overtime game. I wonder if that's it for him.
So, as long as Nowell is healthy, Kansas State rolls Florida Atlantic to get to the Final 4.
If you know you could have gotten 30+ mins/game playing for SBU in your last eligible year VERSUS sitting on the bench and getting a front-row seat and guaranteeing that you get to the Final 4, which do you do in retrospect?
I am pretty sure he was getting paid at KState and that was probably the motivater for him to make that move. SB is far behind on NIL and Heilbron and Emerich arent smart enough to get much going with it.
It's infuriating how horrible Heilbron has band with NIL.
Guys ... it's Stony Brook basketball. It's a college sport in a pro town. Do you think any of these other CAA teams have boosters pouring in? Northeastern? Delaware? William & Mary? Do we have elite players with major social media followings? We and a million other mid-major schools have a long way to go.
Post by: ibosbu on March 25, 2023, 11:36:31 pm
Connecticut back in the Elite8 after a 10 year absence. As a UConn fan I think this team has what it takes to win it all
Congrats! UConn advances to Final Four!! You must be ecstatic. Best thing they have done for themselves was recognizing UConn is bball school, and ditching P5 football dream, and going back home to Big East from bad fit AAC.
PS good job repping us on holylandofhoops :)
Post by: guest410 on March 26, 2023, 10:40:35 am
Tykei's off to the Elite Eight and KState is the odds-on favorite to win that region now. However, he got a DNP-CD in last night's overtime game. I wonder if that's it for him.
So, as long as Nowell is healthy, Kansas State rolls Florida Atlantic to get to the Final 4.
If you know you could have gotten 30+ mins/game playing for SBU in your last eligible year VERSUS sitting on the bench and getting a front-row seat and guaranteeing that you get to the Final 4, which do you do in retrospect?
I am pretty sure he was getting paid at KState and that was probably the motivater for him to make that move. SB is far behind on NIL and Heilbron and Emerich arent smart enough to get much going with it.
It's infuriating how horrible Heilbron has band with NIL.
Guys ... it's Stony Brook basketball. It's a college sport in a pro town. Do you think any of these other CAA teams have boosters pouring in? Northeastern? Delaware? William & Mary? Do we have elite players with major social media followings? We and a million other mid-major schools have a long way to go.
Back on 3/13 UD announced the next step in their NIL movement
https://bluehens.com/news/2023/3/13/Blue_Hen_Collective
"Today, we are excited to announce the next component of our NIL portfolio, the launch of the Blue Hen Collective, powered by Student-Athlete NIL (SANIL), which also runs collectives at Penn State, Rutgers, Wake Forest, and George Washington, among other schools. The Blue Hen Collective is an exciting new way for businesses and fans to support the success of our student-athletes and teams in the NIL era."
Post by: Accelerator on March 26, 2023, 12:46:44 pm
FAU was founded in 1961. They are located an hour away from Miami, which has many pro sports. They moved to D1 in 1994. They are now in the Final Four and will be moving to the AAC next year.
I don't want to hear any more bogus excuses from Heilbron and his cronies when you have an example of a school that is forging their own history right now. Compare and contrast and it just makes us look even more pathetic.
Post by: factorykitten on March 27, 2023, 11:38:00 am
Tykei's off to the Elite Eight and KState is the odds-on favorite to win that region now. However, he got a DNP-CD in last night's overtime game. I wonder if that's it for him.
So, as long as Nowell is healthy, Kansas State rolls Florida Atlantic to get to the Final 4.
If you know you could have gotten 30+ mins/game playing for SBU in your last eligible year VERSUS sitting on the bench and getting a front-row seat and guaranteeing that you get to the Final 4, which do you do in retrospect?
I am pretty sure he was getting paid at KState and that was probably the motivater for him to make that move. SB is far behind on NIL and Heilbron and Emerich arent smart enough to get much going with it.
It's infuriating how horrible Heilbron has band with NIL.
Guys ... it's Stony Brook basketball. It's a college sport in a pro town. Do you think any of these other CAA teams have boosters pouring in? Northeastern? Delaware? William & Mary? Do we have elite players with major social media followings? We and a million other mid-major schools have a long way to go.
The AD at Stony Brook ruined the program. You have heilbrons' can't do attitude and that is a recipe for continued failure. SB needs an ad with a vision and a plan. Like Fiore. If that is your attitude then i guess stony brook has peaked and the program will never be anything more than a suffolk section xi level with your lofty goals.
Post by: Hammertime on March 27, 2023, 11:55:14 am
Tykei's off to the Elite Eight and KState is the odds-on favorite to win that region now. However, he got a DNP-CD in last night's overtime game. I wonder if that's it for him.
So, as long as Nowell is healthy, Kansas State rolls Florida Atlantic to get to the Final 4.
If you know you could have gotten 30+ mins/game playing for SBU in your last eligible year VERSUS sitting on the bench and getting a front-row seat and guaranteeing that you get to the Final 4, which do you do in retrospect?
I am pretty sure he was getting paid at KState and that was probably the motivater for him to make that move. SB is far behind on NIL and Heilbron and Emerich arent smart enough to get much going with it.
It's infuriating how horrible Heilbron has band with NIL.
Guys ... it's Stony Brook basketball. It's a college sport in a pro town. Do you think any of these other CAA teams have boosters pouring in? Northeastern? Delaware? William & Mary? Do we have elite players with major social media followings? We and a million other mid-major schools have a long way to go.
The AD at Stony Brook ruined the program. You have heilbrons' can't do attitude and that is a recipe for continued failure. SB needs an ad with a vision and a plan. Like Fiore. If that is your attitude then i guess stony brook has peaked and the program will never be anything more than a suffolk section xi level with your lofty goals.
Well, after talking your boy, Rob E this past season, SBU is very comfortable and happy with being lofty
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 27, 2023, 12:41:50 pm
Connecticut back in the Elite8 after a 10 year absence. As a UConn fan I think this team has what it takes to win it all
Congrats! UConn advances to Final Four!! You must be ecstatic. Best thing they have done for themselves was recognizing UConn is bball school, and ditching P5 football dream, and going back home to Big East from bad fit AAC.
PS good job repping us on holylandofhoops :)
That was one of heck of a game. Uconn is firing in all cylinders.
The wife and I went to Legends-33rds St to watch with the UConn fans. Packed house.
Oh, how I wish that Stony Brook could at least make a Round of 32 someday! Give us something, anything!!
Post by: ibosbu on March 27, 2023, 01:25:35 pm
Connecticut back in the Elite8 after a 10 year absence. As a UConn fan I think this team has what it takes to win it all
Congrats! UConn advances to Final Four!! You must be ecstatic. Best thing they have done for themselves was recognizing UConn is bball school, and ditching P5 football dream, and going back home to Big East from bad fit AAC.
PS good job repping us on holylandofhoops :)
That was one of heck of a game. Uconn is firing in all cylinders.
The wife and I went to Legends-33rds St to watch with the UConn fans. Packed house.
Oh, how I wish that Stony Brook could at least make a Round of 32 someday! Give us something, anything!!
Rooting for them to win it all.
Post by: ibosbu on March 27, 2023, 01:30:52 pm
https://caasports.com/index.aspx?path=stony_brook
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 27, 2023, 02:52:09 pm
thanks for the heads up.
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 27, 2023, 04:10:18 pm
Post by: ibosbu on March 27, 2023, 06:34:17 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 29, 2023, 11:10:54 am
Post by: guest410 on March 29, 2023, 11:49:16 am
Old friend John Gallagher lands on his feet after the Hartford debacle, taking the Manhattan job. Good hire. I always thought he got a lot out of his teams and recruited well.
The players do NOT like the hire. https://www.midmajormadness.com/2023/3/28/23660299/manhattan-reportedly-hires-former-hartford-coach-john-gallagher-as-new-head-coach
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 29, 2023, 12:14:06 pm
Post by: guest410 on March 29, 2023, 02:07:54 pm
I can take him or leave as a coach, but he was able to recruit well and get the most out of his guys at Hartford. I went to the Hartford-SBU semi game (right before everything got shut down for Covid), and had the pleasure of sitting next to Gallagher's cousin during that game. Th guy was biased, but he couldn't stop raving about cuz as a coach during the game. A game we shouldn't have lost at home, of course.
I was at that game and talked to him after the win. Really nice guy from what I could tell. Felt bad went Hartford decided to go DIII.
Post by: nyrfan1013 on March 30, 2023, 01:46:44 pm
Post by: steveoh on March 30, 2023, 02:01:32 pm
Post by: nyrfan1013 on March 30, 2023, 02:08:29 pm
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 30, 2023, 05:45:43 pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 31, 2023, 01:11:10 am
Just some food for thought.
FAU was founded in 1961. They are located an hour away from Miami, which has many pro sports. They moved to D1 in 1994. They are now in the Final Four and will be moving to the AAC next year.
I don't want to hear any more bogus excuses from Heilbron and his cronies when you have an example of a school that is forging their own history right now. Compare and contrast and it just makes us look even more pathetic.
Couldn't have put it better.
Post by: Hammertime on April 01, 2023, 05:41:16 am
Just some food for thought.
FAU was founded in 1961. They are located an hour away from Miami, which has many pro sports. They moved to D1 in 1994. They are now in the Final Four and will be moving to the AAC next year.
I don't want to hear any more bogus excuses from Heilbron and his cronies when you have an example of a school that is forging their own history right now. Compare and contrast and it just makes us look even more pathetic.
Indeed.. SBU does not want to be an FAU. They don’t care about sports. I was told last year by Rob E. Associate AD, that SBU football will never go FBS and the school has no interest in getting better. They are quite comfortable where things are right now, And this coming from an employee of SBU.
Post by: Knicksbu99 on April 01, 2023, 06:58:29 pm
Post by: factorykitten on April 02, 2023, 09:18:25 pm
Just some food for thought.
FAU was founded in 1961. They are located an hour away from Miami, which has many pro sports. They moved to D1 in 1994. They are now in the Final Four and will be moving to the AAC next year.
I don't want to hear any more bogus excuses from Heilbron and his cronies when you have an example of a school that is forging their own history right now. Compare and contrast and it just makes us look even more pathetic.
SBU is a suny school and the bar is low. As long as they get to collect their paychecks, they will be happy.
Indeed.. SBU does not want to be an FAU. They don’t care about sports. I was told last year by Rob E. Associate AD, that SBU football will never go FBS and the school has no interest in getting better. They are quite comfortable where things are right now, And this coming from an employee of SBU.
Post by: ibosbu on April 03, 2023, 11:56:49 pm
Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 04, 2023, 12:27:43 am
Congratulations @ecasadoSBU and UConn. I think it’s about time we call them blue blood?
Oh man. What a game!!!!!!!!!!! Still out here hanging out in 33rd Street. What a great time.
Well... I dont know. UConn ties the Duke Blue Devils... if that isn't blue blood... then what is?
Post by: NJ Seawolf on April 04, 2023, 12:49:23 am
You can't go wrong with NJ hoops- there is something special about hoops in this state. Hurley is a product of this basketball culture
The next Stony Brook coach would be smart to aggressively go after talent in the Garden State
Post by: Checkmate on April 04, 2023, 11:04:40 am
Congratulations @ecasadoSBU and UConn. I think it’s about time we call them blue blood?
Oh man. What a game!!!!!!!!!!! Still out here hanging out in 33rd Street. What a great time.
Well... I dont know. UConn ties the Duke Blue Devils... if that isn't blue blood... then what is?
That's a really good, really well coached team. Fun to watch.
Titles the last 25 years ...
5 - UConn
3 - North Carolina
3 - Duke
2 - Kentucky
2 - Kansas
2 - Villanova
2 - Florida
Others: Baylor, Louisville, Virginia, Syracuse, Maryland, Michigan State
Of note:
0 - Indiana
0 - UCLA
0 - Gonzaga
What's amazing is that, in that time, the championship team with the most losses in the season were UConn (9; 2011), UConn (8; 2014) and UConn (8; 2023). And then there are years where they didn't even make the tournament. Their last tournament victory prior to this season was back in 2016.
The last couple months they sure looked like the best team in the country though. A real feather in the cap for the Big East. Its demise was greatly exaggerated.
"We were tied with the national runner-up with three minutes to go" is a great line for Kelsey to have in his pocket. The Larson three at 53-53 was just abominable. 10-4 SDSU run to end it.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 04, 2023, 11:15:22 am
Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 04, 2023, 11:45:48 am
The Connecticut athletic department was in shambles during its stay in the AAC. Now they have stabilized their football program while in Independence and have championship winning basketball back in Storrs.
Obviously Connecticut is in a different level to Stony Brook....
With that said, I do think that Stony Brook has the infrastructure, reputation, and resources to engineer a similar athletic turnaround at the mid-major level to compete well in the top tier of the CAA to get us back into the NCAA FCS/Tournament. We just need the right heads leading this athletic department. We need good leaders that have a vision and the swagger to carry it out. Right now we just have losers that are happy with the status quo.
If we can get this athletic department consistently at the top of CAA Football/Basketball we can some day aspire to some sort of FBS/A-10 alignment. For now, we gotta keep dreaming and hope someone with power is reading this board
Post by: nyrfan1013 on April 04, 2023, 12:27:21 pm
Post by: Hammertime on April 04, 2023, 03:23:41 pm
The Big East has a stronghold in the Northeast in top tier college basketball. Even if the UConn coach/fanbase doesn't admit it.... the reality is that rejoining the Big East powered up Connecticut to be back where is at today. Those that left are paying the price of having to co-exist with the Carolina centered ACC (see Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, ND)
The Connecticut athletic department was in shambles during its stay in the AAC. Now they have stabilized their football program while in Independence and have championship winning basketball back in Storrs.
Obviously Connecticut is in a different level to Stony Brook....
With that said, I do think that Stony Brook has the infrastructure, reputation, and resources to engineer a similar athletic turnaround at the mid-major level to compete well in the top tier of the CAA to get us back into the NCAA FCS/Tournament. We just need the right heads leading this athletic department. We need good leaders that have a vision and the swagger to carry it out. Right now we just have losers that are happy with the status quo.
If we can get this athletic department consistently at the top of CAA Football/Basketball we can some day aspire to some sort of FBS/A-10 alignment. For now, we gotta keep dreaming and hope someone with power is reading this board
That FBS/ A-10 pipe dream is long gone
Post by: ibosbu on April 05, 2023, 05:49:44 am
Aaron Estrada has entered the transfer portal
That’s a big blow for them. He is going to his 4th school!
But that’s how the new system is now. Everyone needs to adjust. Transfer portal Giveth, Transfer portal Taketh away.
I personally hated the previous transfer rules. Players had to sit out a year. Coaches had too much power on players. Players had to stick it out at unfair situations.
But I’m starting to hate the new rules too. Too easy to transfer. No roster continuity. Personally I think players should be allowed maximum two transfers including grad transfer.. no sitting out. If a player is not happy after second transfer at third school, it’s likely the player is making bad decisions or will likely never be happy.
Post by: ibosbu on April 05, 2023, 06:03:45 am
If we can get this athletic department consistently at the top of CAA Football/Basketball we can some day aspire to some sort of FBS/A-10 alignment. For now, we gotta keep dreaming and hope someone with power is reading this board
In my opinion A10 has lost its luster. I could be wrong. It’s not the 3-bids/4-bids league it used to be. It’s a 1-bid league now, may be 2-bids in certain years. CAA is not that behind A10. We don’t need to move to A10 anymore to achieve high level basketball. With right leadership it is certainly possible while staying in CAA.
And FBS/CAA is also as feasible as FBS/A10 if we want to go in FBS route (long long way to FBS). High level College Football in northeast is not practical in my opinion. We can try what UMass is doing but it’s a lost cause. But we can focus on basketball and can definitely do wonder with our program. Again with right leadership.
Post by: nyrfan1013 on April 05, 2023, 09:10:10 am
Aaron Estrada has entered the transfer portal
That’s a big blow for them. He is going to his 4th school!
But that’s how the new system is now. Everyone needs to adjust. Transfer portal Giveth, Transfer portal Taketh away.
I personally hated the previous transfer rules. Players had to sit out a year. Coaches had too much power on players. Players had to stick it out at unfair situations.
But I’m starting to hate the new rules too. Too easy to transfer. No roster continuity. Personally I think players should be allowed maximum two transfers including grad transfer.. no sitting out. If a player is not happy after second transfer at third school, it’s likely the player is making bad decisions or will likely never be happy.
Schools he’s already heard from - Alabama
Temple
Texas Tech
Arkansas
Seton Hall
Arizona
Cincinnati
Florida State
Kansas State
Washington State
NC State
Ole Miss
Tennessee
Georgetown
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 05, 2023, 09:21:51 am
Aaron Estrada has entered the transfer portal
That’s a big blow for them. He is going to his 4th school!
But that’s how the new system is now. Everyone needs to adjust. Transfer portal Giveth, Transfer portal Taketh away.
I personally hated the previous transfer rules. Players had to sit out a year. Coaches had too much power on players. Players had to stick it out at unfair situations.
But I’m starting to hate the new rules too. Too easy to transfer. No roster continuity. Personally I think players should be allowed maximum two transfers including grad transfer.. no sitting out. If a player is not happy after second transfer at third school, it’s likely the player is making bad decisions or will likely never be happy.
excellent post. hard to disagree with any of it.
agreed that umass is a cautionary tale in FBS football. though, part of me also thinks you have to dream it to do it. but then again, SBU doesnt have the infrastructure/support to be successful at FBS, because it cannot do it at FCS.
so why us? you'd think if anything, BC, Cuse, or even UConn would acheive success.
Post by: Checkmate on April 05, 2023, 11:05:02 am
Aaron Estrada has entered the transfer portal
That’s a big blow for them. He is going to his 4th school!
But that’s how the new system is now. Everyone needs to adjust. Transfer portal Giveth, Transfer portal Taketh away.
I personally hated the previous transfer rules. Players had to sit out a year. Coaches had too much power on players. Players had to stick it out at unfair situations.
But I’m starting to hate the new rules too. Too easy to transfer. No roster continuity. Personally I think players should be allowed maximum two transfers including grad transfer.. no sitting out. If a player is not happy after second transfer at third school, it’s likely the player is making bad decisions or will likely never be happy.
excellent post. hard to disagree with any of it.
agreed that umass is a cautionary tale in FBS football. though, part of me also thinks you have to dream it to do it. but then again, SBU doesnt have the infrastructure/support to be successful at FBS, because it cannot do it at FCS.
so why us? you'd think if anything, BC, Cuse, or even UConn would acheive success.
I can speak to UMass. I have to say that I have enjoyed being at the top tier of football (albeit at the very bottom of that tier). We play at Auburn and at Penn State this year, we're at Georgia and Mississippi State and actually host Missouri next year, so on and so on. The rest of the schedule's filled with teams from the MAC, service academies, other independents, etc. It's nice seeing our name on the ticker and at least dreaming about playing in a bowl game someday. I thought that day would be a lot sooner, but here we are. What has stunted our growth is that the facilities, particularly the stadium, are well behind just about everywhere else. It doesn't help that Massachusetts is far from a fertile recruiting territory. And we've had many many years that weren't just bad. They were horrible. The fan base hasn't grown in 20 years. We had 12,000 fans at a I-AA playoff game our championship year. We probably averaged about 10,000 fans a game last year, in an upgraded stadium against better competition. Western Mass just isn't this college football bastion.
Much like Long Island. Nevertheless – and without regard for budget – I'm for it. I've enjoyed it.
I think that UMass football was further along when making the move than Stony Brook is currently. I personally can't see it happening, but if it did, I'd get behind it.
Re: the transfer portal, everybody in the world has already graduated so there would have been unprecedented movement anyway, but the NIL stuff makes the west even wilder.
Post by: Checkmate on April 06, 2023, 03:37:42 pm
https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1644015657401348097
Reminds of the time Joe Cremo went from Albany to Villanova when they were perennial title contenders.
Post by: nyrfan1013 on April 08, 2023, 08:27:40 am
NEWS: 2023 four-star guard Isaiah Coleman tells me he has requested to be released from his NLI to College of Charleston and will reopen his recruitment. @TiptonEdits
Post by: Hammertime on April 08, 2023, 09:33:02 am
Seen on Twitter this morning -
NEWS: 2023 four-star guard Isaiah Coleman tells me he has requested to be released from his NLI to College of Charleston and will reopen his recruitment. @TiptonEdits
Maybe he wants to play for the greatest, Geno Ford!!!
Post by: Checkmate on April 09, 2023, 07:20:40 am
Post by: Checkmate on April 11, 2023, 09:27:40 am
Charleston kept the pipeline going from D-II West Liberty, reeling in 6-5/200 F Bryce Butler, who averaged 22 and 8 this year, shooting 59 percent from the field, including 43 percent from deep. He helped West Liberty win 33 games before falling to Nova Southeastern in the D-II title game, and played alongside Pat Robinson III and Dalton Bolon at West Lib previously. I have to think that being a feeder school for D-Is is a positive recruiting tool for these D-IIs.
I read earlier than 20 percent of Division I players are now in the transfer portal, and we still have a month to go.
Also worth noting, A&T hired Monte Ross as its new head coach. He was a longtime HC at Delaware, and most recently was on the Temple staff that got let go.
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 11, 2023, 10:18:51 am
I read earlier than 20 percent of Division I players are now in the transfer portal, and we still have a month to go.
I'm sorry, but this free agency in College Basketball is way out of hand. What % of college BBall players go onto having a viable pro career? It's no longer about education for these college athletes.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 11, 2023, 11:54:28 am
Post by: Hammertime on April 11, 2023, 03:45:53 pm
I read earlier than 20 percent of Division I players are now in the transfer portal, and we still have a month to go.
I'm sorry, but this free agency in College Basketball is way out of hand. What % of college BBall players go onto having a viable pro career? It's no longer about education for these college athletes.
Blame the NCAA for this. I remember years ago when this topic was being discussed. Everybody on here thought it was a great idea for athletes to transfer at will. Most responses at the time were. "If coaches can just pick up and leave why can't athletes do the same? I held my ground by saying it would be a bad idea and set bad examples. I still feel that way and athletes need to suck it up and compete harder if they want to be starters for any school. Well, just look at the total disaster this turned into being.
Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 11, 2023, 06:27:02 pm
Perhaps, what should be considered is that after a 2nd transfer the next one requires a one-year gap in athletics
Post by: ibosbu on April 11, 2023, 11:35:08 pm
I still think student athletes should have the freedom to transfer as they wish. If regular students can transfer as many time as they want to different institutions so should student athletes. Everyone in the college sports world is able to move around freely. Why limit the student athlete if you are not going to limit the movement of everyone else involved (coaches, admins, A.D, etc)?
Perhaps, what should be considered is that after a 2nd transfer the next one requires a one-year gap in athletics
I mentioned earlier in this thread that “I personally hated the previous transfer rules. Players had to sit out a year. Coaches had too much power on players. Players had to stick it out at unfair situations. But I’m starting to hate the new rules too. Too easy to transfer. No roster continuity.”
I have been thinking about a fair system and my idea:
— all players should have one free transfer with no sitting out. It would give the players a chance to change scenery for better personal fit (or $$$ in this age of NIL).
— some players will get a second free transfer with no sitting out only if there’s one of the following two conditions: 1) there’s a coaching change due the coach leaving or getting fired, and 2) grad student transfer.
— all other second/third transfers will require a sitting out but no need for permission from coach or school. This will prevent coaches abusing their power. This will also force the players to make a wiser and informed decision when making the first free transfer. Also Coaches/programs can’t just poach a player and start benefiting right away. So transfer rate will reduce.
Post by: ibosbu on April 11, 2023, 11:39:54 pm
Charleston kept the pipeline going from D-II West Liberty, reeling in 6-5/200 F Bryce Butler, who averaged 22 and 8 this year, shooting 59 percent from the field, including 43 percent from deep. He helped West Liberty win 33 games before falling to Nova Southeastern in the D-II title game, and played alongside Pat Robinson III and Dalton Bolon at West Lib previously. I have to think that being a feeder school for D-Is is a positive recruiting tool for these D-IIs.
May be NEC could be a feeder league for us ;D
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 12, 2023, 09:19:40 am
yet, it's not. it feels like the NCAA couldnt pick a side. wonder if it gets worse or better.
Post by: Knicksbu99 on April 12, 2023, 10:29:43 pm
Post by: ibosbu on April 12, 2023, 10:48:42 pm
Post by: Accelerator on April 12, 2023, 11:20:22 pm
Post by: Hammertime on April 13, 2023, 06:04:03 am
We could have Jim Simons, but what the hell has he done for us? I've never seen him make a single athletic donation and he could be to us what Phil Knight was to Oregon. What a waste of a potential resource.
Simons hates sports. He is a mathematic genius and only cares about higher education, not sports. But I get what you are saying. If he was a sports guy first. This school would be FBS by now with a 25,000-seat stadium, with no Priore or Heilbron.
Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 13, 2023, 08:36:17 am
We could have Jim Simons, but what the hell has he done for us? I've never seen him make a single athletic donation and he could be to us what Phil Knight was to Oregon. What a waste of a potential resource.
Hold it Hold it. Simons has been hugeeeeee for the University. Maybe not athletics. But for the academic side of things he donated for that shiny math building across the street from the arena (behind Physics/Math Complex) and then he made a substantial donation to Stony Brook Medical School (renamed Renaissance after his company).
Let's give credit where credit is due.
Stony Brook University is academically more competitive thanks to donors like Simons.
Now, what we need are donors like Simons that LIKE Athletics also. That we lack!
Post by: nyrfan1013 on April 13, 2023, 08:46:24 am
Guess he’s done coaching
Post by: guest410 on April 13, 2023, 09:30:20 am
We could have Jim Simons, but what the hell has he done for us? I've never seen him make a single athletic donation and he could be to us what Phil Knight was to Oregon. What a waste of a potential resource.
Hold it Hold it. Simons has been hugeeeeee for the University. Maybe not athletics. But for the academic side of things he donated for that shiny math building across the street from the arena (behind Physics/Math Complex) and then he made a substantial donation to Stony Brook Medical School (renamed Renaissance after his company).
Let's give credit where credit is due.
Stony Brook University is academically more competitive thanks to donors like Simons.
Now, what we need are donors like Simons that LIKE Athletics also. That we lack!
If I'm not mistaken, he's donated north of $300 million to Stony Brook, and that was in a roughly 5-year span around the start of 2010. Sucks that he doesn't like athletics but his money has helped boost the profile of the school, which in turn made the school move up the rankings, and made my degree just a little more valuable to outsiders.
Post by: ibosbu on April 13, 2023, 09:56:25 am
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 13, 2023, 10:20:24 am
but the opposite can also be true- yes, this is stating the obvious- elevating the athletic profile will then in turn improve our academic reputation. it just does.
a good year in FB/bball invites more applications, better students, more revenue, more alums contributing, tv contracts, ads, etc.
did kids from LI ever go to northwestern SC? they do now, at clemson. kids from LI never went to bama, but now they apply. FGC? same story.
ever hear of gonzaga? kids now connect flights in denver just to attend college near idaho- yes, idaho.
Post by: ibosbu on April 13, 2023, 10:31:28 am
but the opposite can also be true- yes, this is stating the obvious- elevating the athletic profile will then in turn improve our academic reputation. it just does.
a good year in FB/bball invites more applications, better students, more revenue, more alums contributing, tv contracts, ads, etc.
100%. Villanova is an excellent case point. It was a regional college accepting 50%. Over the last decade with basketball success and exposure, it now has become more selective…accepting 25% as application number soaring. Donations pouring in. It’s a national university now. Ranking is shooting up.
https://www.inquirer.com/news/villanova-basketball-academics-championship-more-selective-20220401.html?outputType=amp
Post by: Accelerator on April 13, 2023, 11:55:07 am
Post by: Hammertime on April 13, 2023, 12:29:22 pm
True. Didn't mean to dismiss Simons' mathematical contributions, which are valuable to the academic reputation of Stony Brook, was speaking solely in terms of athletics with my disappointment in him. He could have at least tossed us one measly bone over the years instead of the absolute zero he's done so far. And there's no telling how much his potential athletic donations could raise the profile of the school.
I used to think that as well. A few Million bucks donated from Renaissance technology is a spot in a 55 galling drum…
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 13, 2023, 01:38:22 pm
True. Didn't mean to dismiss Simons' mathematical contributions, which are valuable to the academic reputation of Stony Brook, was speaking solely in terms of athletics with my disappointment in him. He could have at least tossed us one measly bone over the years instead of the absolute zero he's done so far. And there's no telling how much his potential athletic donations could raise the profile of the school.
this is an important post.
because it highlights the same issue we've been discussing since the inception (2012) of this forum. if an undergrad, who later hits it big, had a positive experience at SB, maybe through athletics, then they're more inclined to help out in the future.
but if you have no one on campus on the weekends, and then no one watching games, they have very little affinity for the U and will contribute but not to athletics.
it's all the same issue really. http://sbufan.createaforum.com/around-stony-brook/making-sb-better-idea-thread-2-0/
Post by: ibosbu on April 15, 2023, 08:34:49 am
Let’s get him. Worth just to see the reaction from their fans.
Post by: Hammertime on April 15, 2023, 01:54:31 pm
https://twitter.com/theportalreport/status/1646938055662510194?s=46&t=DoORW5uXHIKRnGVemkrkbg
Let’s get him. Worth just to see the reaction from their fans.
I dont recall seeing SBU name on that list
Post by: nyrfan1013 on May 06, 2023, 12:03:23 pm
Post by: Checkmate on May 08, 2023, 01:44:44 pm
Our MTE opponents of late have included FIU, Eastern Washington, Texas A&M Corpus Christi, UT Rio Grande Valley, North Dakota State, so not terrific. That said, it was pretty sweet to beat the latter three in successive days back in 2019. I think we're at least on the outskirts of the discussion being in the CAA.
Post by: Checkmate on June 22, 2023, 11:00:41 pm
https://twitter.com/marksingelais/status/1672005093938397186?s=46&t=_0k7SEdo93-_6CvjA-r49w
Post by: OldSeawolf on June 23, 2023, 06:01:00 am
Old friend/foe Will Brown has a new home.
https://twitter.com/marksingelais/status/1672005093938397186?s=46&t=_0k7SEdo93-_6CvjA-r49w
It was rumored many times that he was pretty locked in to remaining in the Albany area due to family. I think this confirms that.
Post by: nyrfan1013 on August 03, 2023, 05:04:56 pm
So sad. Prayers and condolences to the family.
Post by: Checkmate on August 11, 2023, 10:57:59 am
https://www.wbaltv.com/article/towson-university-basketball-player-charged-****-june-2022/44789462
Post by: nyrfan1013 on September 30, 2023, 10:11:00 am
Bryant head coach Jared Grasso is on a leave of absence, school spokesman told @TheMessenger. Spokesman said it’s a “personal matter.”
Hope all is well with him. Was actually excited to see him when they play stony brook. He was a name I read a lot when people wanted Geno out
Post by: nyrfan1013 on October 04, 2023, 10:58:12 am
Post by: Accelerator on October 08, 2023, 12:25:43 am
https://x.com/goodmanhoops/status/1707911073054040500?s=46&t=ut9CrGyfRAKsKxkxEQCqog
Bryant head coach Jared Grasso is on a leave of absence, school spokesman told @TheMessenger. Spokesman said it’s a “personal matter.”
Hope all is well with him. Was actually excited to see him when they play stony brook. He was a name I read a lot when people wanted Geno out
Not looking good for Grasso.
"UPDATE #2
Multiple sources indicated Grasso’s leave of absence was a university decision. There is reportedly an ongoing investigation into inappropriate behavior by the Bryant head coach.
It’s unclear whether or not Grasso will return to the sidelines, but the sources we’ve spoken to could not rule out possible termination.
This is a developing story. Stay tuned for more updates." https://burnerball.com/sources-bryants-grasso-taking-leave-of-absence/
Then...
"According to a report from GoLocal, Bryant College head men’s basketball coach Jared Grasso was arrested by Smithfield, RI police on October 1st, and charged with “Failure to Stop for Accident Resulting in Damage to Vehicle.” Grasso is due for arraignment on Oct. 24 in Third Division District Court.
The arrest occurred two days after Grasso was placed on leave by the university. This incident appears to be unrelated to the current leave." https://hoopdirt.com/bryants-grasso-arrested/
Post by: OldSeawolf on October 08, 2023, 08:37:55 am
https://x.com/goodmanhoops/status/1707911073054040500?s=46&t=ut9CrGyfRAKsKxkxEQCqog
Bryant head coach Jared Grasso is on a leave of absence, school spokesman told @TheMessenger. Spokesman said it’s a “personal matter.”
Hope all is well with him. Was actually excited to see him when they play stony brook. He was a name I read a lot when people wanted Geno out
Not looking good for Grasso.
"UPDATE #2
Multiple sources indicated Grasso’s leave of absence was a university decision. There is reportedly an ongoing investigation into inappropriate behavior by the Bryant head coach.
It’s unclear whether or not Grasso will return to the sidelines, but the sources we’ve spoken to could not rule out possible termination.
This is a developing story. Stay tuned for more updates." https://burnerball.com/sources-bryants-grasso-taking-leave-of-absence/
Then...
"According to a report from GoLocal, Bryant College head men’s basketball coach Jared Grasso was arrested by Smithfield, RI police on October 1st, and charged with “Failure to Stop for Accident Resulting in Damage to Vehicle.” Grasso is due for arraignment on Oct. 24 in Third Division District Court.
The arrest occurred two days after Grasso was placed on leave by the university. This incident appears to be unrelated to the current leave." https://hoopdirt.com/bryants-grasso-arrested/
Wow, what a rise and fall. He was a real up-and-comer too.
Post by: Checkmate on October 19, 2023, 02:39:27 pm
News report: https://turnto10.com/news/local/police-release-bodycam-of-investigation-into-bryant-basketball-coachs-alleged-hit-and-run-north-smithfield-police-oct-19-2023
Full footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm49wSy6W1A
Short clip: https://x.com/danielcoates_6/status/1715053230898454726?s=20
Ridiculous line: https://x.com/StoolCBB/status/1715053962036981813?s=20
Post by: ry1nik on October 19, 2023, 04:27:53 pm
Post by: Accelerator on October 19, 2023, 06:52:12 pm
Post by: Checkmate on October 23, 2023, 10:27:29 am
Post by: NJ Seawolf on October 23, 2023, 10:40:18 am
Post by: nyrfan1013 on October 23, 2023, 10:44:08 am
Stunner. Merrimack and Sacred Heart leaving the NEC for the MAAC. Merrimack jumping ship in record time and joining a real solid conference; can't really blame them. I'm not sure how many times the NEC can backfill by dipping into the D-II ranks.
According to one of those burner twitters who have been right lately they just tweeted
@TheArmChairAD - All I can say is I hear the floodgates may not be finished for the NEC and the CAA is not done expanding yet
Now they are saying possibly Fairfield to the CAA in the future
Post by: Checkmate on October 24, 2023, 10:48:47 am
As expected, Lunardi's preseason bracketology has Charleston as the lone CAA representative, earning a 13 seed. It's just one slot higher than Vermont as the AE automatic qualifier.
The CAA has had five different tournament champions in the last five years. Charleston is the popular pick right now, but I think them falling back to the pack is definitely in play.
Post by: ibosbu on October 24, 2023, 01:22:43 pm
Post by: Checkmate on October 24, 2023, 03:19:27 pm
https://uncwsports.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule/2023-24
Siddle is very high on this year's team and links that to the difficulty they had scheduling ... but come on. We can't complain (as much) after seeing this.
Post by: Knicksbu99 on October 24, 2023, 05:31:22 pm
Post by: Accelerator on October 24, 2023, 06:18:05 pm
Post by: Checkmate on October 27, 2023, 02:29:20 pm
For the 2024 NIT, conference regular season champions that do not win their conference tournament or are not otherwise selected to the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Championship will not receive an automatic bid to the NIT. Instead, the NIT will guarantee two teams (based on the NET rankings) from each of six conferences (Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and Southeastern). The top two teams in the NET rankings not qualifying for the NCAA men’s basketball tournament from each conference, regardless of won-loss record, will be selected. Additionally, the 12 teams automatically selected will be guaranteed the opportunity to host a game in the first round of the NIT.
Once the 12 automatic qualifying schools have been selected, the NIT Committee will select the 20 best teams available to complete the tournament’s 32-team field. Based on the NIT Committee’s evaluation, the best four teams of the 20 at-large teams selected will complete the 16 first round hosts, with deference given to the “first four teams out” of the Division I Men’s Basketball Championship, as determined by the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball. Additional teams from the six conferences with AQs are eligible to be selected as at-large teams and can be selected as hosts.
Post by: Checkmate on November 06, 2023, 11:51:21 am
Post by: Checkmate on November 06, 2023, 07:41:22 pm
Post by: Accelerator on November 07, 2023, 12:26:43 am
Also, they're ranked #20 in football right now.
And if you care about soccer, they upset #1 UCF there too.
It is completely depressing to watch them do what they do while we're stuck with Heilbron's non-results.
Post by: Checkmate on November 07, 2023, 09:47:27 am
James Madison just upset #4 Michigan State.
Also, they're ranked #20 in football right now.
And if you care about soccer, they upset #1 UCF there too.
It is completely depressing to watch them do what they do while we're stuck with Heilbron's non-results.
Hoops beat Virginia a couple years ago too. The coach said on the Field of 68 podcast that it's very difficult to get local power conference teams to play them now. We saw scores like 122-59, 84-31, 98-45 and 107-28 yesterday, so good for Michigan State for scheduling them.
The JMU campus is unreal, it's a nice little town, and the facilities are terrific. I also think it's a prime area for a ramped-up athletics program, with no real pro affiliation and a pretty fertile area for talent.
I look at the path for their recent football coaches. Cignetti was an assistant at Pitt, NC State and Alabama before taking a Division II and FCS job and then landing at JMU. Mike Houston's history wasn't anything particularly special but can't argue with 28-2 in two seasons at JMU. He's at ECU now. And then Everett Withers was a coach for three pro teams and programs like Louisville, Texas and Ohio State before landing in Harrisonburg.
But why examine other teams when we're just so blessed to have Priore? I wonder if Lawton wishes he was still here rather than being the second leading rusher for an undefeated ranked JMU team.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 07, 2023, 11:09:01 am
Post by: NJ Seawolf on November 07, 2023, 12:25:44 pm
This is all on our AD and his lack of vision.
Together we transform!
Post by: Checkmate on November 10, 2023, 09:43:17 pm
West Virginia 65
Nice scalp on an otherwise dismal day for the conference. 30 points from the coach's kid. Monmouth put up a good fight against a decent George Mason team in their opener too.
Post by: Knicksbu99 on November 10, 2023, 10:10:46 pm
Post by: Checkmate on November 14, 2023, 09:45:31 pm
Big one Thursday. Vermont v Charleston in Myrtle Beach.
Post by: sbupatriots on November 16, 2023, 09:05:46 am
Post by: Knicksbu99 on November 16, 2023, 12:50:30 pm
Post by: Hammertime on November 16, 2023, 01:01:39 pm
Charleston has been poor shooting the three this year but especially Policelli 3-17. Weird to see him not really do any of the post game that I felt made him so effective last year he almost exclusively has shot threes this year.
policelli has zero points so far and is way off his game. 3 fouls, so far as well
Post by: Knicksbu99 on November 16, 2023, 01:28:25 pm
Post by: Hammertime on November 16, 2023, 01:28:41 pm
Post by: Hammertime on November 16, 2023, 01:31:50 pm
Post by: Accelerator on November 16, 2023, 01:43:32 pm
Outscored 23-7 in the final 5 minutes.
Post by: Knicksbu99 on November 16, 2023, 01:48:01 pm
Post by: Checkmate on November 16, 2023, 02:03:22 pm
Vermont's reign has been ridiculous, although Lowell has at least stepped up to challenge them the last few years.
I can't wait to retire so I can randomly travel to random tournaments for random 11:30am tipoffs.
If I have it right, here's the CAA's record against the A-10 over the last few years ...
2021-22: 7-7
2022-23: 7-4
2023-24: 0-8
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 16, 2023, 02:58:19 pm
Post by: Checkmate on November 18, 2023, 09:28:08 pm
Not to dwell on it, but the AE has wins over FAU, Georgia Tech, Charleston and Saint Louis.
We got a nice one today, I guess, with Hampton beating FGCU, but the only name win that I can see is Monmouth over West Virginia.
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 19, 2023, 10:18:17 am
The AE looks stronger and has a significantly better winning percentage so far.
that's basically the worst outcome for Stony Brook: Leaving a league where it was easier to get to the tournament (less teams) and now that league is also better in the RPI. (There is any NET release yet)
I'm all for the CAA. But I'm starting to get worried!
Post by: Hammertime on November 19, 2023, 12:13:06 pm
Another year of the AE looking better than the CAA. Crazy. I think the tables have turned.
The AE looks stronger and has a significantly better winning percentage so far.
that's basically the worst outcome for Stony Brook: Leaving a league where it was easier to get to the tournament (less teams) and now that league is also better in the RPI. (There is any NET release yet)
I'm all for the CAA. But I'm starting to get worried!
Go back and look at the recent additions to the CAA. That is all you need to know
Post by: Checkmate on November 19, 2023, 08:48:14 pm
It was a pretty good teams-we-lost-to weekend, with Nebraska beating Oregon State and the Johnnies knocking off a good Utah team. Yes, we are reaching.
Post by: sbupatriots on November 19, 2023, 09:23:33 pm
Monmouth and Hampton, both new, actually have our two best wins. Of course, A&T is one of the worst teams in America and neither we nor Campbell has done much.
It was a pretty good teams-we-lost-to weekend, with Nebraska beating Oregon State and the Johnnies knocking off a good Utah team. Yes, we are reaching.
I know it doesnt mean a whole lot but according to Kenpom, weve had the 18th toughest strength of schedule in the country so far. Hopefully these 20 point losses are a "not as bad as it looks" situation.
Post by: sbupatriots on November 20, 2023, 09:01:29 pm
Post by: Knicksbu99 on November 28, 2023, 01:31:38 pm
Post by: sbupatriots on December 02, 2023, 03:07:29 pm
Post by: Accelerator on December 02, 2023, 06:27:06 pm
And one humiliating loss at home to an NEC team!
Post by: Checkmate on December 02, 2023, 09:56:38 pm
https://x.com/hardwiredsports/status/1731133801600827711?s=20
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 03, 2023, 10:13:54 am
Check out how Vermont beat Yale ... absolute madness ...
https://x.com/hardwiredsports/status/1731133801600827711?s=20
Watching Vermont overcome a 5 point deficit to Yale with 3.8 seconds left, almost makes you forget about our loss to Wagner as not being that bad......almost.
Post by: ry1nik on December 03, 2023, 02:27:10 pm
Post by: Checkmate on December 04, 2023, 10:30:29 am
Geno's going to lean on the SOS for a while, but it holds little weight when you lose to Wagner at home, and barely squeak by Rider. And the injury part of it, when you're talking about one key piece, is a shaky argument when Yale was without Knowling, St. John's was without Luis, Wagner was without Moore (their minutes leader), and oh by the way, we've turned it over 14 times in each of our losses to them the last three years, two on our home floor.
Post by: factorykitten on December 04, 2023, 11:24:39 am
NET rankings are out. We come in at #320, ahead of only Hampton and UNC A&T, and, for what it's worth, ahead of only NJIT if we were still in the AE.
Geno's going to lean on the SOS for a while, but it holds little weight when you lose to Wagner at home, and barely squeak by Rider. And the injury part of it, when you're talking about one key piece, is a shaky argument when Yale was without Knowling, St. John was without Luis, Wagner was without Moore (their minutes leader), and oh by the way, we've turned it over 14 times in each of our losses to them the last three years, two on our home floor.
should gino be extended? rumor is he has been.
Post by: Accelerator on December 04, 2023, 01:03:07 pm
Buffalo is 360. Out of 362. Holy sh*t.
Post by: Checkmate on December 06, 2023, 04:31:31 pm
The conference helps of course, but what a difference it makes to have these private schools and a talent-rich state at your fingertips. Long Island just isn't a hotbed for basketball or football for that matter.
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 06, 2023, 04:51:47 pm
Post by: factorykitten on December 06, 2023, 04:58:09 pm
That’s Pikiell’s strength: recruiting. He’s also a great ambassador for the school that employs him. Mediocre game coach, imo. But the first 2 items, definitely are the reason he landed where he did and is getting paid what he is. How he convinced Warney to stick around for 4 years still boggles the mind.
"How he convinced Warney to stick around" Warney didnt need to be convinced he had great relationships with coach pikiell and coach young and still does today. Its a credit to the character of those people.
Post by: Hammertime on December 06, 2023, 05:35:15 pm
That’s Pikiell’s strength: recruiting. He’s also a great ambassador for the school that employs him. Mediocre game coach, imo. But the first 2 items, definitely are the reason he landed where he did and is getting paid what he is. How he convinced Warney to stick around for 4 years still boggles the mind.
"How he convinced Warney to stick around" Warney didnt need to be convinced he had great relationships with coach pikiell and coach young and still does today. Its a credit to the character of those people.
The best thing that could happen to this university is, if Warney, when he retires from pro ball, reaches out to SBU and offer to coach. Start off as assistant coach, then after a few years elevate to HC. I just dont know if this school wants Warney or if Warney wants them.
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 06, 2023, 05:56:48 pm
That’s Pikiell’s strength: recruiting. He’s also a great ambassador for the school that employs him. Mediocre game coach, imo. But the first 2 items, definitely are the reason he landed where he did and is getting paid what he is. How he convinced Warney to stick around for 4 years still boggles the mind.
"How he convinced Warney to stick around" Warney didnt need to be convinced he had great relationships with coach pikiell and coach young and still does today. Its a credit to the character of those people.
It may very well be, but at the end of the day, you have to do what’s best for you. Pikiell certainly did that. Not sure Warney did. I agree with Hammer that SBU should do Warney a solid by adding him to coaching staff. More importantly though, Pikiell should offer Warney a coaching position; much of Pikiell’s on-court success at SBU and his subsequent offer at Rutgers was directly attributable to Warney.
Post by: Chairman of the Board on December 06, 2023, 06:28:53 pm
Post by: factorykitten on December 06, 2023, 06:32:08 pm
That’s Pikiell’s strength: recruiting. He’s also a great ambassador for the school that employs him. Mediocre game coach, imo. But the first 2 items, definitely are the reason he landed where he did and is getting paid what he is. How he convinced Warney to stick around for 4 years still boggles the mind.
"How he convinced Warney to stick around" Warney didnt need to be convinced he had great relationships with coach pikiell and coach young and still does today. Its a credit to the character of those people.
It may very well be, but at the end of the day, you have to do what’s best for you. Pikiell certainly did that. Not sure Warney did. I agree with Hammer that SBU should do Warney a solid by adding him to coaching staff. More importantly though, Pikiell should offer Warney a coaching position; much of Pikiell’s on-court success at SBU and his subsequent offer at Rutgers was directly attributable to Warney.
Jameel is enjoying a great pro career in S Korea. Im sure when hes done playing he'll have plenty of options. The things you point out are all good things. Loyalty was rewarded for coach pikiell and for Jameel. Jameel is very loyal to coach pikiell and is at Rutgers all the time in the off season. He never comes back to stony brook and i dont blame him.
Post by: Checkmate on December 29, 2023, 09:45:41 am
Hofstra at (44) St. John's
UNCW at (66) Arkansas
Delaware vs (53) Princeton
Monmouth at (25) Oklahoma
UNC A&T at (102) George Mason
Northeastern at (238) Rhode Island
I'd sign up for 2-4 right now, maybe even 1-5.
We're just 4-11 against the A-10 this year. I expected a little better. We have a third crack at URI, having already logged double-digit wins with Charleston and Delaware.
Post by: Checkmate on December 29, 2023, 03:56:39 pm
https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status/1740738579092107620
If UMass left, that would drop the A-10 to 14 teams, and you wonder if they'd stand pat or try to bring in two teams to get to 16. If it's the latter, the CAA has a few attractive non-football options that would fit right in, i.e. Hofstra, Charleston, UNCW and Towson.
Edit: Towson obviously has football but I think would be a candidate for hoops if permitted to stay in the CAA for football.
Post by: Curious George on December 29, 2023, 06:22:03 pm
Pretty credible source has UMass as the "top option" to move to the CUSA, joining Kennesaw State and Delaware, who have already committed. Scrapping some longtime regional rivalries to go up against Liberty, Western Kentucky, UTEP, etc., in all sports makes me quite ill.Towson football would remain in the CAA like Richmond?
https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status/1740738579092107620
If UMass left, that would drop the A-10 to 14 teams, and you wonder if they'd stand pat or try to bring in two teams to get to 16. If it's the latter, the CAA has a few attractive non-football options that would fit right in, i.e. Hofstra, Charleston, UNCW and Towson.
Post by: factorykitten on December 30, 2023, 11:47:24 am
Pretty credible source has UMass as the "top option" to move to the CUSA, joining Kennesaw State and Delaware, who have already committed. Scrapping some longtime regional rivalries to go up against Liberty, Western Kentucky, UTEP, etc., in all sports makes me quite ill.
https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status/1740738579092107620
If UMass left, that would drop the A-10 to 14 teams, and you wonder if they'd stand pat or try to bring in two teams to get to 16. If it's the latter, the CAA has a few attractive non-football options that would fit right in, i.e. Hofstra, Charleston, UNCW and Towson.
Edit: Towson obviously has football but I think would be a candidate for hoops if permitted to stay in the CAA for football.
Stony brook should have tried really hard to get into the A10 instead of the CAA for all but football or just drop football and put all of there resources into basketball programs.
Post by: ecasadoSBU on December 30, 2023, 01:03:40 pm
Pretty credible source has UMass as the "top option" to move to the CUSA, joining Kennesaw State and Delaware, who have already committed. Scrapping some longtime regional rivalries to go up against Liberty, Western Kentucky, UTEP, etc., in all sports makes me quite ill.
https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status/1740738579092107620
If UMass left, that would drop the A-10 to 14 teams, and you wonder if they'd stand pat or try to bring in two teams to get to 16. If it's the latter, the CAA has a few attractive non-football options that would fit right in, i.e. Hofstra, Charleston, UNCW and Towson.
Edit: Towson obviously has football but I think would be a candidate for hoops if permitted to stay in the CAA for football.
Stony brook should have tried really hard to get into the A10 instead of the CAA for all but football or just drop football and put all of there resources into basketball programs.
Nah man. Dropping football should not be an option! No Seawolves fan should be supporting that
We should just hold steady. If smaller schools can fund FCS football we definitely can also.
Let's keep funding our program and growing the following/facilities slow and steady. I get a feeling that when all hell breaks loose in the NCAAs Stony Brook's overall reputation and size will help keep it afloat.
We just have to wait patiently.
We see more and more school making desperation moves that make no sense. UMass has been making dumb moves for the past two decades now...
Lets keep and grow our regional rivalries, keep traveling costs low, continue to build our facilities. So that when s#!t hit the fan we can survive the seismic shift.
Whatever is happening on College athletics right now is not sustainable. Something has to break. And when it breaks we need to make sure that we are in somewhat a position of strength to make the best move possible.
Post by: sbupatriots on December 30, 2023, 02:24:08 pm
Post by: factorykitten on December 30, 2023, 02:28:00 pm
Pretty credible source has UMass as the "top option" to move to the CUSA, joining Kennesaw State and Delaware, who have already committed. Scrapping some longtime regional rivalries to go up against Liberty, Western Kentucky, UTEP, etc., in all sports makes me quite ill.
https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status/1740738579092107620
If UMass left, that would drop the A-10 to 14 teams, and you wonder if they'd stand pat or try to bring in two teams to get to 16. If it's the latter, the CAA has a few attractive non-football options that would fit right in, i.e. Hofstra, Charleston, UNCW and Towson.
Edit: Towson obviously has football but I think would be a candidate for hoops if permitted to stay in the CAA for football.
Stony brook should have tried really hard to get into the A10 instead of the CAA for all but football or just drop football and put all of there resources into basketball programs.
Nah man. Dropping football should not be an option! No Seawolves fan should be supporting that
We should just hold steady. If smaller schools can fund FCS football we definitely can also.
Let's keep funding our program and growing the following/facilities slow and steady. I get a feeling that when all hell breaks loose in the NCAAs Stony Brook's overall reputation and size will help keep it afloat.
We just have to wait patiently.
We see more and more school making desperation moves that make no sense. UMass has been making dumb moves for the past two decades now...
Lets keep and grow our regional rivalries, keep traveling costs low, continue to build our facilities. So that when s#!t hit the fan we can survive the seismic shift.
Whatever is happening on College athletics right now is not sustainable. Something has to break. And when it breaks we need to make sure that we are in somewhat a position of strength to make the best move possible.
You cant grow facilities any slower than they do here under heilbron. there wont be new locker rooms for at least 5-10 years if lucky. what fans see looks good but what players and recruits see when they come here is different behind the scenes. I woundnt want to see sb lose football but with no interest thanks to heilbron if it doesnt get any better in the next three years they should drop it. put that money into basketball. while everyone likes to say sb has the largest budget blah blah blah that's just to cover operating expenses every year. i am sure they are not getting any money from the CAA and they cant raise money so take what they can raise and put it into basketball and if you make it to the tournamnet you are rewarded with a big payday.
im surprised no one is bothered by the news that Geno as more or less already quietly been extended. thats news.
Post by: Accelerator on December 30, 2023, 02:43:57 pm
They're 1-11 and their only win was against a D3 school. They just lost at home to Niagara.
Post by: Accelerator on January 03, 2024, 05:09:38 pm
Post by: ecasadoSBU on January 03, 2024, 05:17:22 pm
At least we're not Buffalo.
They're 1-11 and their only win was against a D3 school. They just lost at home to Niagara.
That's really sad considering how good Buffalo was a few years ago during the Bobby Hurley-Nate Oats era.
They started to derail with the Jim Whitesell hire and now have bottomed out with George.
Coaching is everything in College Basketball and for our schools is very difficult $$$$ to keep them.
Post by: sbupatriots on February 01, 2024, 08:59:18 am
Post by: Checkmate on February 08, 2024, 08:36:00 am
St. John’s: 2-4
Duquesne: 2-4
Nebraska: 1-7 (0-7 B1G)
Michigan State: 1-5
That’s 6-20.
Home/neutral record: 51-15.
Post by: sbupatriots on February 08, 2024, 07:51:01 pm
Post by: Accelerator on February 08, 2024, 09:23:06 pm
Post by: sbupatriots on February 08, 2024, 10:10:53 pm
Post by: ry1nik on February 09, 2024, 07:01:18 am
CAA now has 8 teams in the 100s on Kenpom. AE only has 2. The depth in this league is impressive.The conference RPI of the AE is two spots higher than the CAA. The AE has one team with an RPI 300 or worse, the CAA has five. The CAA is not the step up that was expected in basketball or football.
Post by: Checkmate on February 09, 2024, 10:25:16 am
I do think that being a CAA member means that bottom half teams in the A-10 or AAC would pick up the phone to talk to you about playing a game at your place, you're playing a few national TV games, which supports your pitch when trying to bring in recruits. If a recruit has to choose between Towson and UMBC, Monmouth and NJIT, or Northeastern and like a BU, I feel like we win those battles. Finances, travel and proximity aside, if you offered the nine AE teams a spot in the CAA just based on the talent/exposure of the programs, all nine would jump in my opinion.
Granted, I don't think the conference's trajectory is ideal. JMU left, Delaware's out soon, who knows what's next? I could see Charleston or UNCW being attractive to other conferences, and vice versa. I do like the regional nucleus of us, Hofstra, Northeastern, Drexel and Monmouth, and maybe we can include Towson in that – certainly qualified competitively. That said, I don't see much of a difference between Hampton, Elon, William & Mary, etc., and the lower-end teams in the AE. We're still just a one-bid league, only with more teams to climb over.
I will say that I'm enjoying it more, and the games feel more important.
Post by: Knicksbu99 on February 09, 2024, 12:26:55 pm
Post by: Checkmate on February 12, 2024, 08:59:42 pm
https://twitter.com/JakeShindel/status/1757220675079549420
Post by: Checkmate on February 15, 2024, 09:58:03 pm
https://x.com/mid_madness/status/1758324747736113297?s=20
Post by: Accelerator on February 15, 2024, 11:17:36 pm
That ending was crazy, Campbell missed 3 FTs in the double bonus to make it happen. They were up 85-80 with 17 seconds left. I would have preferred Campbell win because now we have to deal with Monmouth and we could have used that extra game of protection in the standings.
Post by: NJ Seawolf on February 15, 2024, 11:56:08 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on February 16, 2024, 06:04:50 am
Absolutely bonkers finish to the Monmouth/Campbell game. Rice from 40! Two banked threes in a four-second span.
https://x.com/mid_madness/status/1758324747736113297?s=20
Crazy finish. Bad news, good news. Monmouth is going to be flying high against us on Saturday, but we are back ahead of Campbell, and determine our own destiny to break tie with Monmouth.
Post by: Checkmate on February 16, 2024, 09:52:06 am
https://fmupatriots.com/boxscore.aspx?path=wbball&id=11048
Post by: sbupatriots on February 17, 2024, 09:37:51 pm
Post by: Checkmate on February 26, 2024, 03:37:12 pm
. Yeah, but really, not happening.https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1762198328673006013
Post by: Accelerator on February 26, 2024, 03:48:21 pm
MAC is at odd number now and if anything, we'd be gunning for a spot there instead of the A10 as a football school.
Post by: Knicksbu99 on February 27, 2024, 11:33:35 am
Post by: OldSeawolf on February 27, 2024, 12:56:37 pm
Post by: Accelerator on February 28, 2024, 04:36:37 pm
Post by: Checkmate on February 28, 2024, 04:48:04 pm
Man, even the CAA (19) is ranked higher than the MAC (24) in KenPom conferences right now.
UMass basketball enthusiasts are not pleased. In the KenPom ratings, you can list off seven A-10 schools before you reach Akron at #100, and another three A-10s before reaching a second MAC team. Does Frank Martin skip town? Can they recruit at the same level? I dunno. I'm skeptical.
Here's a good rundown of what it all means for the program. All you need to know is that UMass Lowell is in a better basketball conference than UMass. On Saturday, they had their best crowd in years .... YEARS (7,000+) ... and this news broke two days later. Brutal.
https://www.masslive.com/umassfootball/2024/02/umass-move-to-mac-is-brutal-blow-to-its-mens-basketball-program-vautour.html
Post by: Checkmate on February 28, 2024, 11:08:56 pm
In other news, poor CBSSN has Elon/William & Mary tomorrow night, not Hofstra/UNCW or Stony Brook/Drexel. Not the greatest exhibition of CAA hoops.
Post by: Checkmate on February 29, 2024, 11:16:24 am
Among them:
Charleston
Vermont
UMass Lowell
https://www.midmajormadness.com/2024/2/29/24086292/umass-departure-for-mac-opens-door-for-potential-atlantic-10-realignment
Post by: ibosbu on February 29, 2024, 11:44:44 am
Post by: OldSeawolf on February 29, 2024, 12:01:05 pm
An interesting read from Mid-Major Madness. They list five programs who should be strongly considered as additions to the A-10, all speculative as I don't think it was authored by a real insider. Yet there's a lot of sense to it.
Among them:
Charleston
Vermont
UMass Lowell
https://www.midmajormadness.com/2024/2/29/24086292/umass-departure-for-mac-opens-door-for-potential-atlantic-10-realignment
Can definitely see Charleston on the move. Not Vermont (they seem to love their niche basketball in the cold upper northeast) and UML (too new to D1 and not a lot of notoriety yet).
Post by: Checkmate on March 17, 2024, 06:51:02 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 17, 2024, 07:03:31 pm
Post by: sbupatriots on March 18, 2024, 12:10:05 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 18, 2024, 12:26:36 pm
Dstone Dubar from Hofstra has entered the portal as a grad transfer. Assume he will get big time high major interest. 6'6" and shot 40% from 3.
Let's see how many all-conference players are still in the league in November. Of the 2022-23 awardees, seven played in the CAA this year, five transferred up, and three graduated. Of this year's group, five are done (Rice, Thomas, TSM, Phillips, Thompson), Williams and Dubar are already in the portal, and three may consider that route too once Alabama's through with them this week. We'll see if Charleston's still with us next year anyway.
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 18, 2024, 01:50:28 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 19, 2024, 02:01:58 pm
It's crazy that this is just about the kind of activity we can expect every offseason until further notice. There are still some people using the extra year they picked up from COVID.
Seth Towns is in his eighth year of college basketball and will be playing tonight for Howard in their tournament game against Wagner. He made his collegiate debut on November 11, 2016. :o
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 19, 2024, 02:07:40 pm
Geez. There goes Jyare Davis. Trey Moss from W&M too.
It's crazy that this is just about the kind of activity we can expect every offseason until further notice. There are still some people using the extra year they picked up from COVID.
It's really crazy, and I personally don't like what the portal, in conjunction with NIL, has created. If I want professional, I'll watch the NBA. It's getting a bit ridiculous..........I'm flooded with Verbal Commits in my feed today, and can't keep up with all of this upheaval.
Post by: sbu1991 on March 19, 2024, 07:35:23 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 20, 2024, 06:17:25 am
Looking at the teams in the CIT, it would not surprise me if SB was invited but declined.I'm sure SBU could have played in the CBI or CIT (whatever it's called now), but given that we were banged up, and given that a lot of guys are done (including possibly some bench guys), it probably made no sense to take part. Perhaps if we had a lot of returnees, it would have made more sense. I think Pitino and St. John's felt the same way about the NIT.
Post by: sbupatriots on March 20, 2024, 12:59:36 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 22, 2024, 08:33:44 pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 22, 2024, 09:47:43 pm
vermont hung around a while with duke. CoC not so great against bama.
Post by: ibosbu on March 22, 2024, 09:53:27 pm
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 22, 2024, 11:13:59 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 23, 2024, 08:26:58 am
Post by: EastCoastMD on March 23, 2024, 11:52:47 am
Post by: Checkmate on March 23, 2024, 01:21:05 pm
The CAA hasn't earned a tournament win since JMU in 2013 when they were a 16 seed and beat LIU in the play-in game. Entering the tournament, they were 20-14 in a year when the CAA was ranked 18th among all conferences. This year, I feel like we would've gotten a 15 had we made it, but maybe the First Four? And a few bucks with a win?
Post by: NJ Seawolf on March 23, 2024, 04:13:08 pm
No way an AE program can poach an Ivy coach. I know there was a lot of complaining early on, but the CAA is just a much better situation.
Post by: ry1nik on March 23, 2024, 05:26:57 pm
That W&M hire shows the gap between the AE and CAAYet, both the CAA and AE are one-bid leagues with a 13 seed. What sounds good doesn’t always work out in reality
No way an AE program can poach an Ivy coach. I know there was a lot of complaining early on, but the CAA is just a much better situation.
Post by: nyrfan1013 on March 25, 2024, 01:44:59 pm
Post by: nyrfan1013 on March 25, 2024, 01:48:22 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 25, 2024, 04:03:11 pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 25, 2024, 04:19:31 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 25, 2024, 05:45:27 pm
Post by: Checkmate on March 27, 2024, 08:41:26 am
Remaining All-CAA members:
Trazarien White, UNCW (1st)
Anthony Dell'Orso, Campbell (2nd)
Reyne Smith, Charleston (2nd)
Landon Glasper, UNC A&T (3rd)
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 27, 2024, 09:28:57 am
With Brzovic and now Burnham gone from Charleston, I wonder if they've been told that Kelsey's taking another job (i.e. Louisville). They've won 58 games the last two years, it's an exciting brand of basketball, and he's a great front man for a program. I could see it. Or they're just like everybody else seeing what kind of $$ they can get or how high on the food chain they can climb. I'd say maybe a little better but not much.
Remaining All-CAA members:
Trazarien White, UNCW (1st)
Anthony Dell'Orso, Campbell (2nd)
Reyne Smith, Charleston (2nd)
Landon Glasper, UNC A&T (3rd)
Apparently, Kelsey is in competition with Pitino's Kid (New Mexico) and Holloway (Seton Hall) for the Louisville job. Also, rumors that Kelsey is being courted by FAU. His stock has gone way up.
Post by: Checkmate on March 27, 2024, 11:15:37 am
With Brzovic and now Burnham gone from Charleston, I wonder if they've been told that Kelsey's taking another job (i.e. Louisville). They've won 58 games the last two years, it's an exciting brand of basketball, and he's a great front man for a program. I could see it. Or they're just like everybody else seeing what kind of $$ they can get or how high on the food chain they can climb. I'd say maybe a little better but not much.
Remaining All-CAA members:
Trazarien White, UNCW (1st)
Anthony Dell'Orso, Campbell (2nd)
Reyne Smith, Charleston (2nd)
Landon Glasper, UNC A&T (3rd)
Apparently, Kelsey is in competition with Pitino's Kid (New Mexico) and Holloway (Seton Hall) for the Louisville job. Also, rumors that Kelsey is being courted by FAU. His stock has gone way up.
Kelsey infamously spurned the Minutemen years ago, citing "personal reasons." He just signed an extension at Charleston for pretty good money ($1.1M) but if he's to leave a great situation there for Louisville, for three times the salary in a major conference and down the river from where he grew up, I have to think would be attractive to him. The bar is low right now too.
Edit: Pitino’s staying at UNM so maybe Kelsey?
Post by: Accelerator on March 27, 2024, 12:12:51 pm
https://x.com/goodmanhoops/status/1773018379118346473?s=46&t=7_xD-zNd-dcmap9guZlWEQ
Post by: Checkmate on March 27, 2024, 12:52:48 pm
Post by: sbufan on March 27, 2024, 04:20:56 pm
Post by: EastCoastMD on March 27, 2024, 05:43:29 pm
Next year is going to be interesting. Perhaps Stony Brook might be at a major advantage for next year --as crazy as that thought would have been a few months ago
Post by: sbufan on March 27, 2024, 08:28:08 pm
Holy cow. The offseason of college basketball might be crazier than the 4 professional sports leagues combined.
Next year is going to be interesting. Perhaps Stony Brook might be at a major advantage for next year --as crazy as that thought would have been a few months ago
Right? I feel like we're in a great place with only Muratori transferring.
This is so far, and not to jinx anything
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 28, 2024, 10:57:00 am
i dont know that we can do that so consistently with a new squad. there was some luck in there too. GO SB
Post by: EastCoastMD on March 28, 2024, 12:39:35 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 28, 2024, 12:43:49 pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 28, 2024, 02:03:11 pm
Post by: Accelerator on March 29, 2024, 09:57:20 pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 30, 2024, 10:34:59 pm
Post by: EastCoastMD on March 31, 2024, 12:33:38 pm
Post by: Checkmate on April 01, 2024, 10:11:12 am
This feels like an A-10 level hire. We'll see if that comes to be. Charleston had another big year, and the A-10 got an at-large and won two games in the tournament, so the stock for both is high.
Wherever it is, Mack is pretty much starting from scratch, with every notable player having hit the portal, including Smith and Scott, who joined Kelsey at Louisville.
Post by: factorykitten on April 01, 2024, 08:59:18 pm
Mack new coach for CoC. 5 year deal. As good as Kelsey was, this is an upgrade. Expect them load up on replacement talent quickly. They don’t mess around.
They have over a million dollars every year in NIL. I dont think sb's nil is even close to $175000.
Post by: Accelerator on April 02, 2024, 04:18:38 pm
Mack can get a bonus of $150,000 for making the NCAA Tournament."
https://twitter.com/kevinlive5/status/1775244642264477869?s=61&t=6Bx3tD-mSTjm4jbTxJLP_g
Post by: Knicksbu99 on April 02, 2024, 06:53:15 pm
Post by: drexeldragons10 on April 04, 2024, 09:01:28 am
With Brzovic and now Burnham gone from Charleston, I wonder if they've been told that Kelsey's taking another job (i.e. Louisville). They've won 58 games the last two years, it's an exciting brand of basketball, and he's a great front man for a program. I could see it. Or they're just like everybody else seeing what kind of $$ they can get or how high on the food chain they can climb. I'd say maybe a little better but not much.
Remaining All-CAA members:
Trazarien White, UNCW (1st)
Anthony Dell'Orso, Campbell (2nd)
Reyne Smith, Charleston (2nd)
Landon Glasper, UNC A&T (3rd)
Smith left for Louisville. White likely to leave UNCW as well (though has not entered portal yet). Brzovic announced yesterday he is returning to CofC.
Post by: Checkmate on April 04, 2024, 10:47:35 am
I can't blame anybody for it.
Accounting for Smith's departure and Brzovic's return, we're holding at four for all-conference returnees. I have to think White and Dell'Orso are being courted.
Post by: sbufan on April 04, 2024, 12:11:34 pm
It's crazy out there. AJ Storr, who we had delusions of getting when he entered the portal last year, is in the portal again and evidently turned down $750,000 from Kansas because he's looking for $1M.
I can't blame anybody for it.
Accounting for Smith's departure and Brzovic's return, we're holding at four for all-conference returnees. I have to think White and Dell'Orso are being courted.
Can't imagine these NIL sums are sustainable long term. My expectations: Rich donors are excited to play GM because now they're allowed to. BUT, most teams are going to underperform - most seasons end in disappointment. And these donors are spending their own money and getting nothing in return, not even a name on a building.
Post by: EastCoastMD on April 04, 2024, 02:18:05 pm
Post by: Curious George on April 06, 2024, 02:44:05 pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 09, 2024, 09:54:34 am
Post by: Checkmate on April 09, 2024, 11:27:25 am
It'll be cool to see what some of these guys can do at a high major. We saw what Estrada was able to do with his opportunity at Bama; he more than held his own. Smith and Scott are already locked in at Louisville, and a few others ought to end up in high-profile places.
Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 12, 2024, 02:47:49 am
congrats ecasado on another huge UConn victory. there's a team that knows how to pass the ball. also good execution with two bigs in foul trouble for most of the second half.
Amazing run. Pure dominance. Balanced team with so many different weapons. We were fortunate to catch the 1st/2nd Rd @ Barclays.
I Had plans to watch the Championship Game with the wife at Legends NYC... Instead I was stuck watching while stuck in traffic driving down the Adirondack Northway. 5 hours delay heading down from Plattsburgh, NY. Incredible the amount of people that traveled up to watch the total eclipse. Totally worth it though
Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 12, 2024, 02:51:20 am
"A CofC official confirms Chris Mack's contract is for 5 years worth $1.1 million per year
Mack can get a bonus of $150,000 for making the NCAA Tournament."
https://twitter.com/kevinlive5/status/1775244642264477869?s=61&t=6Bx3tD-mSTjm4jbTxJLP_g
Crazy to think Mack had the perfect job at Xavier (his alma mater) and decided to jump to Louisville in hopes of a rebuild.
Post by: Checkmate on April 15, 2024, 09:18:25 pm
Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 16, 2024, 10:38:48 am
I just hope that the league lands good players from the major programs that are looking for more playing time.
Post by: Checkmate on April 18, 2024, 01:11:31 pm