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Title: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on August 03, 2016, 10:43:36 pm
Is Jordan Walker the little brother of Ahmad? I think I remember seeing instagram videos of him working out with Ahmad in Pritchard when he was still in junior high. Looks like he already has a handful of offers as a rising junior. Hope we land him.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/jordan-walker-nj
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on August 04, 2016, 08:57:26 am
Looks like a lot of programs have him on their radar
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on August 26, 2016, 12:52:24 pm
According to Pat Lawless, 2018s Samba Diallo, Charles Pride, Frankie Policelli and Savion Lewis have made unofficial visits in the last few days, and per Adam Zagoria of SNY, JB made an offer to Pride. Here's some video on him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guvIFD2bwSU
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on August 26, 2016, 01:20:16 pm
According to Pat Lawless, 2018s Samba Diallo, Charles Pride, Frankie Policelli and Savion Lewis have made unofficial visits in the last few days, and per Adam Zagoria of SNY, JB made an offer to Pride. Here's some video on him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guvIFD2bwSU

Just for the record, SBU had already also made offers to both Diallo and Policelli.  I haven't seen any indication that Lewis has been offered yet, but he looks like a terrific prospect, as well.

In general, from what I've seen, Coach B. has been very aggressive in his recruiting to date, and has made some offers to outstanding talents for '17, '18 and '19 already.  The question will be, is he able to get any of them to come to SBU.  For example, Ohio State has already offered at least 3 of the same recruits that Coach Boals is pursuing.  If he can pick off one or two who are also in the sites of higher level conferences he will have done excellently.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on August 26, 2016, 02:38:28 pm
According to Pat Lawless, 2018s Samba Diallo, Charles Pride, Frankie Policelli and Savion Lewis have made unofficial visits in the last few days, and per Adam Zagoria of SNY, JB made an offer to Pride. Here's some video on him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guvIFD2bwSU

Just for the record, SBU had already also made offers to both Diallo and Policelli.  I haven't seen any indication that Lewis has been offered yet, but he looks like a terrific prospect, as well.

In general, from what I've seen, Coach B. has been very aggressive in his recruiting to date, and has made some offers to outstanding talents for '17, '18 and '19 already.  The question will be, is he able to get any of them to come to SBU.  For example, Ohio State has already offered at least 3 of the same recruits that Coach Boals is pursuing.  If he can pick off one or two who are also in the sites of higher level conferences he will have done excellently.

Ah, didn't know that about those two. I see now we have 44 offers out for the next three years per verbalcommits. Means little, of course, other than the coaching staff being aggressive.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Tml on August 26, 2016, 08:53:25 pm
Boals is like a contemporary version of Gene Hackman in Hoosiers.  He's seems totally Ohio hokey but I really dig his enthusiasm.  It may take awhile but the vibe is good and I think it means the program just notched up long term.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on August 28, 2016, 01:29:56 am
So far I'm very pleased with coach Boals and the way he seems to go about things. The big test though is the 2017 class. Lets see if he can land some solid recruits before the fall signing period.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on December 31, 2016, 06:14:56 pm
I was just checking verbalCommits out of curiosity and wow... We have 33 open offers for 2018... That's too many, don't you all think? Does coach really know all these players well to offer them scholarship?
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on December 31, 2016, 06:15:26 pm
This thread should be sticky too. Thanks
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on December 31, 2016, 08:54:04 pm
Maybe its the shot gun approach
Title: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on January 13, 2017, 10:22:06 pm
Figured I would get this thread started. This is huge class for Stony Brook as the team currently has 6 Juniors on the roster they'll be replacing these guys. That said the coaching staff has really hit the ground running with a reported 34 offers out according to verbal commits (http://verbalcommits.com/schools/stony-brook).

Most recently the offered Brandon Stone and I really hope we land this kid.

http://www.hudl.com/profile/5084116/brandon-stone

I can't believe he doesn't already have a slew of high major offers.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on January 14, 2017, 09:30:02 am
  Now that's what we need. I'm sure he will grow a bit between now and when he graduates .  Sign him as early as possible.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on January 14, 2017, 10:16:04 am
Figured I would get this thread started. This is huge class for Stony Brook as the team currently has 6 Juniors on the roster they'll be replacing these guys. That said the coaching staff has really hit the ground running with a reported 34 offers out according to verbal commits (http://verbalcommits.com/schools/stony-brook).

Most recently the offered Brandon Stone and I really hope we land this kid.

http://www.hudl.com/profile/5084116/brandon-stone

I can't believe he doesn't already have a slew of high major offers.

I agree that Coach B. has certainly been aggressive with offers for this class.  The good news is that many of the kids that he's going after appear to be a step up from what SBU has pursued in the past (with rare exceptions, of course).  On the other hand, the quality of these players makes it a lower probability for the Seawolves to actually end up with them.  This kid Brandon Stone is a good example.

Yes, he would be an outstanding get.  But, the likelihood is low.  While he has no major conference offers to date, he has already expressed desires to perhaps play for West Virginia or Pitt, and will be visiting both shortly.  So, maybe this explains why Boals is going after so many candidates for this class, including several excellent bigs--see Nance, Alexander, Forrester.  He probably figures that all he needs are one or two unexpected terrific hits across all positions (a la Warney).

Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on January 14, 2017, 07:30:21 pm
This kid ill probably wind up in a Power 5 school for sure but you never know what drives hem .
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on January 14, 2017, 07:44:26 pm
This kid ill probably wind up in a Power 5 school for sure but you never know what drives hem .

Yeah this is why I like that Boals seems to be casting a wide net. The more recruits you talk to and offer, the more likely you'll find a kid that isn't a conference snob and likes the idea of being a big fish in a small pond.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on January 14, 2017, 09:09:57 pm
Dwayne Cohill, the 57th ranked player in the 2018 class according to ESPN, liked a tweet about our win today (see attachment). Now I think it's unlikely we actually land Cohill, but it's awesome to see Stony Brook is still on his radar despite all the high major offers he holds.

I love what the coaching staff is doing on the recruiting trail.

(http://)
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: SBU9191 on January 21, 2017, 11:55:35 am
Anyone know anything about Samba Diallo?  4 star recruit that SBU has a scholarship offer out to and he doesn't have any offers from high-major schools. 

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/samba-diallo
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on January 21, 2017, 05:46:37 pm
I haven't heard of him until you mentioned. Got couple of A10 offers though.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on January 21, 2017, 06:40:59 pm
 A 4 Star  recruit would be great in the AE . We keep going after  at high level recruits all we need is one maybe two  to  make things happen at this level . Gotta love our recruiting attitude .
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on March 09, 2017, 12:22:06 pm
A 4 Star  recruit would be great in the AE . We keep going after  at high level recruits all we need is one maybe two  to  make things happen at this level . Gotta love our recruiting attitude .

Well looks like we have an offer to another 4 star recruit. Tavon Jones. Will be hard to convince him to come here, he already has Big East offer from Seton Hall.. and probably will get more major offers. But agree with you that we gotta love the recruiting attitude. Coach Boals has tweeted few times since joining Stony Brook, that recruits should find the best fit.. highest level isn't always best fit... over 1400 transfers in last 2 years!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on March 09, 2017, 03:09:48 pm
All it will take is one 5 or 4 star kid to show up . Build a supporting cast around him and we are in good shape.  It also bodes well for the program going forward . Get one maybe second kid signs up. I like that Boals is aiming high with his recruits hopefully he lands a big fish.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 09, 2017, 10:33:57 pm
All it will take is one 5 or 4 star kid to show up . Build a supporting cast around him and we are in good shape.  It also bodes well for the program going forward . Get one maybe second kid signs up. I like that Boals is aiming high with his recruits hopefully he lands a big fish.

Says every low major in the country. Yet the blue-chippers still don't choose 'em.

Maybe we can land an occasional high-major (local) kickback or a high school senior who wants to stay close to home, but even that is unrealistic. Long Island isn't exactly a hotbed. Nevertheless, I like that Boals is aiming high and that he found significant contributors at major programs from outside the area.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on March 23, 2017, 11:44:28 am
This summer will be one of the most important recruiting class.. We will have 5 people graduating next year. And Boals now have one year under his belt and now knows the AE landscape. Doesn't have to divide his attention between moving to a new place with family, getting to know the current players, finding assistant coaches, recruiting for 2017, learning about the school, facilities, opponents, scheduling etc like last summer. Looking forward to see how Boals does with his next batch of recruitment.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on July 10, 2017, 08:47:26 am
Coach Boals tweeted out a #Turn Up bitmoji last night: https://twitter.com/JeffBoals/status/884206342919135232

Last fall, Boals tweeted out an excited bitmoji every time a recruit gave Stony Brook a verbal commitment. It could mean anything, but keep an eye out for recruiting news.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on July 10, 2017, 10:15:28 am
Can only mean a good thing down the road . 
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on July 10, 2017, 10:27:15 am
And now this from coach Weber https://twitter.com/Coach_Weber/status/884416261316378625

"Just heard huge news for @StonyBrookMBB that has me FIRED UP!! Let's keep it rolling baby!! #WeAreSeawolves 🔴🔵🌊🐺🏀‼️‼️"

I wouldn't be surprised if they're alluding to the new assistant coach to replace coach Chapman who took a job at Northern Illinois.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on July 10, 2017, 03:13:55 pm
We either signed a 4 or 5 star recruit  or maybe Boals hired his old boss from Ohio State  who was cut loose a few months ago.  Speculation is always fun ,
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on July 10, 2017, 03:46:26 pm
Miles Latimer is going to be a seawolf!

https://twitter.com/Mles30/status/884498385478332417

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/miles-latimer
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on July 10, 2017, 05:14:09 pm
We either signed a 4 or 5 star recruit  or maybe Boals hired his old boss from Ohio State  who was cut loose a few months ago.  Speculation is always fun ,

We could only wish, with the 4 or 5 star recruit!!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on July 24, 2017, 05:32:35 pm
Write up on the Oladipo Skills Academy includes the following on Miles Latimer "6. Stony Brook will place Miles Latimer on the American East postseason all-first team. A tremendous addition for Jeff Boals' program, Latimer has the chance to carry the baton for the Seawolves over the next few years."

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/evans-takeaways-ten-predictions-from-the-oladipo-skills-academy
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on July 24, 2017, 08:16:23 pm
Sweet  now lets sign another  big man or two!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on July 25, 2017, 06:30:31 am
Sweet  now lets sign another  big man or two!

I would love to see SB sign a 6'10" PF who can control the post. Another Warney but taller....
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on July 27, 2017, 09:42:25 am
Write up on the Oladipo Skills Academy includes the following on Miles Latimer "6. Stony Brook will place Miles Latimer on the American East postseason all-first team. A tremendous addition for Jeff Boals' program, Latimer has the chance to carry the baton for the Seawolves over the next few years."

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/evans-takeaways-ten-predictions-from-the-oladipo-skills-academy

Heck of a find, sbufan. You too, Coach!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on July 27, 2017, 11:03:26 am
Looking forward to this kids arrival  could be a game changer
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on August 07, 2017, 01:25:25 pm
The Stony Brook elite camp is this Saturday. Does anyone know how it works? Is it invite only to Stony Brook recruits?
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on August 10, 2017, 12:14:47 pm
So quiet in the recruiting front. Any more updates on 2018 recruitment? I think still 3 more spots left.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on August 10, 2017, 03:27:50 pm
So quiet in the recruiting front. Any more updates on 2018 recruitment? I think still 3 more spots left.

4 scholarships left still, but I agree that it's been quiet lately. I'm hoping they'll have some recruits on campus this weekend for the elite camp.

Hard to know who the staff is focusing on but I'm hoping they can land Souleymane Koureissi. He visited the campus back in the spring, but has since picked up a slew of new offers.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on August 10, 2017, 04:57:39 pm
We could use a big guy  in the range of 6'8 or taller that can shoot and rebound.  We are loaded with guards  and small forwards . Time for at least  1 big kid  who can play to sign up.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on August 10, 2017, 05:23:53 pm
We could use a big guy  in the range of 6'8 or taller that can shoot and rebound.  We are loaded with guards  and small forwards . Time for at least  1 big kid  who can play to sign up.

There are a good many that have been offered for 2018 (I count 12 currently).  The big men are always in high demand, as there are fewer available.  The Seawolves certainly have some very good candidates, but are facing serious competition to land them.  I'll also be looking forward to seeing how the current new freshman (Anthony Ochefu) pans out.   
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: steveoh on August 14, 2017, 01:43:21 pm
Seems like we just beat out UMass for a 7 ft big man. Welcome Alex Christie.

No idea how good he is (then again, the America East doesn't really get good seven footers), but we could use some height.

https://twitter.com/alex_christie21/status/897146976160145411

https://verbalcommits.com/players/alex-christie



Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on August 14, 2017, 01:57:40 pm
Seems like we just beat out UMass for a 7 ft big man. Welcome Alex Christie.

No idea how good he is (then again, the America East doesn't really get good seven footers), but we could use some height.

https://twitter.com/alex_christie21/status/897146976160145411

https://verbalcommits.com/players/alex-christie


WOW, very impressive. Rivals has him at 2*.. Trying to find some videos of him..
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: VA_Seawolf on August 14, 2017, 02:15:55 pm
A big man is always a great get!! Glad he chose to come here. As mentioned we could use the size and I'm sure Boals will be able to develop him.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on August 14, 2017, 02:18:08 pm
Alex Christie played his last year at this elite college basketball prep school called (MacDuffie pre school) and they apparently were very high on him coming in. He is huge. 7'0" 260 pounds. He looks strong and they say he is a very good runner and jumper .

http://www.canadianballers.com/news_article/show/675421-the-macduffie-school-land-7-footer-alex-christie
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on August 14, 2017, 02:24:39 pm
big news and looking forward to seeing him.  i have noticed that we are thin on bigs coming into the program over the next few classes.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on August 14, 2017, 03:08:52 pm
It's hard to judge Christie's capabilities due to the lack of video available, but it certainly sounds like his upside should be substantial.  He will probably be a project that Coach B. will take on with relish.  Given the unknowns with this, and in light of the recent disappointing experience with Alonzo Campbell, I'd still like to see the Seawolves nail down another big man for '18.  There are still 3 open roster spots for next season, and we have offers out to a number of impressive PFs.  But, of course, the competition for them is fierce.

Welcome aboard Alex!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on August 14, 2017, 03:53:25 pm
Read the article  and he seems like a good student also which is important.  Hopefully he can play and at  7 foot block shots.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on August 15, 2017, 11:42:34 am
Notwithstanding some very good recruiting lately, I've noticed a very disturbing trend.  SBU often goes up against Hofstra for good talent.  Some of those players that both schools recruit are fiercely recruited by other schools as well, even including more reputed mid-majors and even some high majors.  In the past week alone, both Jared Rhoden and Samba Diallo (both highly rated recruits) have narrowed their candidate lists for their commitment decisions.  In both cases, the Seawolves were removed from consideration.  Not all that surprising, you might say.  However, Hofstra remained on the list in each case--WHY?

I've attended games at both schools, and grew up on LI.  There is no doubt in my mind that SBU's facilities and academics are head and shoulders above Hofstra's.  Furthermore, Hofstra's record was anything but stellar last season.  Somehow, we must get the word out forcefully that if you're a well-rated recruit, would consider a lesser hailed conference than others that have offered, and are willing to look at Long Island--the choice should overwhelmingly be SBU over Hofstra!!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on August 15, 2017, 11:58:51 am
Notwithstanding some very good recruiting lately, I've noticed a very disturbing trend.  SBU often goes up against Hofstra for good talent.  Some of those players that both schools recruit are fiercely recruited by other schools as well, even including more reputed mid-majors and even some high majors.  In the past week alone, both Jared Rhoden and Samba Diallo (both highly rated recruits) have narrowed their candidate lists for their commitment decisions.  In both cases, the Seawolves were removed from consideration.  Not all that surprising, you might say.  However, Hofstra remained on the list in each case--WHY?

I've attended games at both schools, and grew up on LI.  There is no doubt in my mind that SBU's facilities and academics are head and shoulders above Hofstra's.  Furthermore, Hofstra's record was anything but stellar last season.  Somehow, we must get the word out forcefully that if you're a well-rated recruit, would consider a lesser hailed conference than others that have offered, and are willing to look at Long Island--the choice should overwhelmingly be SBU over Hofstra!!

If SB would to ever move their Basketball program into the A-10, that would all change..
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on August 15, 2017, 12:30:57 pm
Yeah, I get that, Hammer.  But, that's not a reasonable expectation for the near term.  There must be another option that could result in some improvement re: this situation.  By the way, I checked out the remaining open offers for 2018, and found that there are 7 or 8 additional recruits that have open offers from both Hofstra and SBU.  Need some good ideas NOW!!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on August 15, 2017, 03:07:31 pm
I think  Hofstra plays on the notion they are an elite school when in fact  they are not.  Add to that  the difference in conferences the CAA is stronger all around than the AE and it may be a convincer for some kids.  I do like our coaching staffs scheduling this year . We cant complain about an easy OOC schedule with  Hofstra, Brown, St Francis -Pa and Norfolk St at home . Then on the road with  Rutgers, Providence , Columbia and UConn . Add Maryland as a neutral court game in the Coliseum . That should be attractive to a lot of players.  Scheduling could be the difference maker going forward to reach some top talent  in future seasons.   We still have 3 or 4 games to post on this years  schedule .  If we can keep getting high level games and maybe repeat trips to the Coliseum or back to  MSG  that could be a key to high level talent.  So far  I'm impressed with our two newcomers so far .
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on August 16, 2017, 09:52:26 am
Notwithstanding some very good recruiting lately, I've noticed a very disturbing trend.  SBU often goes up against Hofstra for good talent.  Some of those players that both schools recruit are fiercely recruited by other schools as well, even including more reputed mid-majors and even some high majors.  In the past week alone, both Jared Rhoden and Samba Diallo (both highly rated recruits) have narrowed their candidate lists for their commitment decisions.  In both cases, the Seawolves were removed from consideration.  Not all that surprising, you might say.  However, Hofstra remained on the list in each case--WHY?

I've attended games at both schools, and grew up on LI.  There is no doubt in my mind that SBU's facilities and academics are head and shoulders above Hofstra's.  Furthermore, Hofstra's record was anything but stellar last season.  Somehow, we must get the word out forcefully that if you're a well-rated recruit, would consider a lesser hailed conference than others that have offered, and are willing to look at Long Island--the choice should overwhelmingly be SBU over Hofstra!!

It's impressive that Hofstra made the cut, but I'm not too concerned. At least not yet. We don't know how much focus the staff was placing Rhoden and Diallo, and according to verbal commits we're still involved with some several high level commits.

What's strange to me is that Pikiell's staff almost never competed with Hofstra whereas now Boals seems to have a lot of overlap. I'm not sure if Boals is aiming higher, or if he has similar AAU contacts as Mihalich
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on August 17, 2017, 12:45:18 am
Interesting point raised re recruiting competition with Hofstra. Hofstra plays against teams from mid-Atlantic and Carolinas as opposed to New England. Also CAA already has a good reputation as a mid major conference; many still don't realize how much it has been weakened by departures. May be the advisers to recruits think it's still the same old conference with stellar mid-major teams like VCU and GMU etc.

Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on August 17, 2017, 04:35:38 am
Interesting point raised re recruiting competition with Hofstra. Hofstra plays against teams from mid-Atlantic and Carolinas as opposed to New England. Also CAA already has a good reputation as a mid major conference; many still don't realize how much it has been weakened by departures. May be the advisers to recruits think it's still the same old conference with stellar mid-major teams like VCU and GMU etc.

I have been saying since day one when we moved from the Big South to the CAA, SB needs to move all sports out of the AE and into the CAA.. Some people feel it's a waste of time and would only be a lateral because both conferences are one bid leagues... I disagree with that assessment.. I think the level of competition is tougher in the CAA as a whole for all sports then the AE. If you are looking for better athletes, the CAA is where we belong. Not the AE.. My opinion..
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on August 17, 2017, 10:49:40 am
Interesting point raised re recruiting competition with Hofstra. Hofstra plays against teams from mid-Atlantic and Carolinas as opposed to New England. Also CAA already has a good reputation as a mid major conference; many still don't realize how much it has been weakened by departures. May be the advisers to recruits think it's still the same old conference with stellar mid-major teams like VCU and GMU etc.

The last two years have actually been pretty good for the CAA in terms of RPI. As a conference, they were 9th overall in 2015-16, and 11th in 2016-17. However, they have been a one-bid league in each of the last six years, dating back to the VCU/GMU/ODU year when VCU made the Final Four.

Travel to the CAA schools would be a grind/fortune for all sports.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chrissy D. on August 17, 2017, 11:24:21 am
Hammer this has been explained a few times. SB wanted to mive all sports to CAA but were blocked by a couple of schools with Hofstra being one of them. Since Hofstra doesnt have football anymore they couldnt stop that move.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on August 17, 2017, 11:38:49 am
Hammer this has been explained a few times. SB wanted to mive all sports to CAA but were blocked by a couple of schools with Hofstra being one of them. Since Hofstra doesnt have football anymore they couldnt stop that move.

Just curious. Can Hofstra and others still block SB from making the leap, if so, why.. Why would they??
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on August 17, 2017, 11:42:46 am
They could if they wanted to .  I think Hofstra feels a little threatened with SBU . Hofstra enrollment is dropping to almost under 10k students . A few years ago it was nearly 15k but  cost (42,000) a year and the area the campus is may be working against them .
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on August 17, 2017, 12:15:09 pm
They could if they wanted to .  I think Hofstra feels a little threatened with SBU . Hofstra enrollment is dropping to almost under 10k students . A few years ago it was nearly 15k but  cost (42,000) a year and the area the campus is may be working against them .

WOW. I didnt know that about Hofstra enrollment . Maybe they need to lower the cost of their admissions, too.. It is my understanding Hofstra not cheap to get in.. But what gives Hofstra the right to block another institution from participating in their sports conference just because they feel threaten? Makes no sense and it should not be allowed. I would think the CAA commissioner would have a lot to say about that as well.. It's not like SB isn't already affiliated with the CAA, so it should just be a matter of fitting us in schedule wise rather than having a school vote..
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: VA_Seawolf on August 17, 2017, 04:31:12 pm
I've said it before and I'll stick by it, I'm not high on the CAA. It's simply another one bid league and a more competitive one at that. We're better off being a game or two away from a tourney appearance yearly in the AE, then losing in the first round of a more competitive CAA tournament. Until it becomes a multibid league again I'm not interested. The A10 is a different animal though. The CAA will be even weaker once JMU leaves for an FBS all sports conference. Perhaps then we'll get the call along with Albany,but IDK if we should bite then. It's not a worthwhile move if you ask me.


The CAA has 10 members, usually conferences require a 2/3rds or 3/4ths vote to admit a new member. Hofstra alone can't block us, but if another school like say Northeastern joined them out of fear of regional competition, and then College of Charleston didn't want to add another member up north, those three together could have been enough to end our consideration. It's not hard to form a coalition against schools like this. Serves them right though. Hofstra can stay in a dying CAA. I could see them coming back to the AE begging (along with Delaware) once JMU leaves the CAA.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on August 17, 2017, 05:11:24 pm
I've said it before and I'll stick by it, I'm not high on the CAA. It's simply another one bid league and a more competitive one at that. We're better off being a game or two away from a tourney appearance yearly in the AE, then losing in the first round of a more competitive CAA tournament. Until it becomes a multibid league again I'm not interested. The A10 is a different animal though. The CAA will be even weaker once JMU leaves for an FBS all sports conference. Perhaps then we'll get the call along with Albany,but IDK if we should bite then. It's not a worthwhile move if you ask me.


The CAA has 10 members, usually conferences require a 2/3rds or 3/4ths vote to admit a new member. Hofstra alone can't block us, but if another school like say Northeastern joined them out of fear of regional competition, and then College of Charleston didn't want to add another member up north, those three together could have been enough to end our consideration. It's not hard to form a coalition against schools like this. Serves them right though. Hofstra can stay in a dying CAA. I could see them coming back to the AE begging (along with Delaware) once JMU leaves the CAA.

I still disagree. Do you realize the AE is constantly always at the bottom as far as conference strength is concern!!!! I would think SB could attract better athletes if their sports programs played in the CAA. You have no idea if JMU is going to move up to the CAA anytime soon. I see SH wanting SB to move up to FBS before JMU does...
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: VA_Seawolf on August 17, 2017, 05:54:32 pm
I still disagree. Do you realize the AE is constantly always at the bottom as far as conference strength is concern!!!! I would think SB could attract better athletes if their sports programs played in the CAA. You have no idea if JMU is going to move up to the CAA anytime soon. I see SH wanting SB to move up to FBS before JMU does...


The AE isn't the best, but it can get better. Our league is poised to be quite good this year. I still don't see the value in hopping from a single one bid league to another. Better athletes could be a reason to move, but is there proof we'd be able to recruit any better in the CAA as opposed to the AE? The downsides of the CAA are the increased travel and sports like Lacrosse may take a hit in that league.

If we did move to the CAA however, it's likely we wouldn't be alone. Albany I'm almost certain would tag along which would make the jump a bit more attractive.

Heilbron can want to take us to FBS, but there's no chance in Hell we move to FBS before JMU. JMU already has the facilities, stadium, and winning tradition to be attractive to an FBS conference TODAY. They turned the Sun Belt down a few years ago and are arguably a more attractive school than ODU for a conference. They're the next team out the door and when they're gone, expect significant changes to the CAA.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on August 18, 2017, 11:45:24 am
I still disagree. Do you realize the AE is constantly always at the bottom as far as conference strength is concern!!!! I would think SB could attract better athletes if their sports programs played in the CAA. You have no idea if JMU is going to move up to the CAA anytime soon. I see SH wanting SB to move up to FBS before JMU does...


The AE isn't the best, but it can get better. Our league is poised to be quite good this year. I still don't see the value in hopping from a single one bid league to another. Better athletes could be a reason to move, but is there proof we'd be able to recruit any better in the CAA as opposed to the AE? The downsides of the CAA are the increased travel and sports like Lacrosse may take a hit in that league.

If we did move to the CAA however, it's likely we wouldn't be alone. Albany I'm almost certain would tag along which would make the jump a bit more attractive.

Heilbron can want to take us to FBS, but there's no chance in Hell we move to FBS before JMU. JMU already has the facilities, stadium, and winning tradition to be attractive to an FBS conference TODAY. They turned the Sun Belt down a few years ago and are arguably a more attractive school than ODU for a conference. They're the next team out the door and when they're gone, expect significant changes to the CAA.

Our average home attendance last year (3,221) would have put us ahead of three A-10 teams Ė Duquesne, Fordham and LaSalle, all perennial doormats Ė and just behind George Washington, which ranked 11th in the 14-team conference. The arena, while beautiful, does cap in the low 4,000s, but a media friend told me that the A-10 "would trade La Salle for Stony Brook tomorrow if it could."

In the CAA, we would've ranked third behind UNCW and C of C. Our attendance is double what Hofstra, Towson, Northeastern and Elon get, and TRIPLE what Drexel drew. Two years ago, we'd have been second.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on August 18, 2017, 12:09:46 pm
I still disagree. Do you realize the AE is constantly always at the bottom as far as conference strength is concern!!!! I would think SB could attract better athletes if their sports programs played in the CAA. You have no idea if JMU is going to move up to the CAA anytime soon. I see SH wanting SB to move up to FBS before JMU does...


The AE isn't the best, but it can get better. Our league is poised to be quite good this year. I still don't see the value in hopping from a single one bid league to another. Better athletes could be a reason to move, but is there proof we'd be able to recruit any better in the CAA as opposed to the AE? The downsides of the CAA are the increased travel and sports like Lacrosse may take a hit in that league.

If we did move to the CAA however, it's likely we wouldn't be alone. Albany I'm almost certain would tag along which would make the jump a bit more attractive.

Heilbron can want to take us to FBS, but there's no chance in Hell we move to FBS before JMU. JMU already has the facilities, stadium, and winning tradition to be attractive to an FBS conference TODAY. They turned the Sun Belt down a few years ago and are arguably a more attractive school than ODU for a conference. They're the next team out the door and when they're gone, expect significant changes to the CAA.

Our average home attendance last year (3,221) would have put us ahead of three A-10 teams Ė Duquesne, Fordham and LaSalle, all perennial doormats Ė and just behind George Washington, which ranked 11th in the 14-team conference. The arena, while beautiful, does cap in the low 4,000s, but a media friend told me that the A-10 "would trade La Salle for Stony Brook tomorrow if it could."

In the CAA, we would've ranked third behind UNCW and C of C. Our attendance is double what Hofstra, Towson, Northeastern and Elon get, and TRIPLE what Drexel drew. Two years ago, we'd have been second.

Do I smell an expansion of IFCU in the future??? Now thats asking a bit much!!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: VA_Seawolf on August 18, 2017, 02:25:22 pm
I still disagree. Do you realize the AE is constantly always at the bottom as far as conference strength is concern!!!! I would think SB could attract better athletes if their sports programs played in the CAA. You have no idea if JMU is going to move up to the CAA anytime soon. I see SH wanting SB to move up to FBS before JMU does...


The AE isn't the best, but it can get better. Our league is poised to be quite good this year. I still don't see the value in hopping from a single one bid league to another. Better athletes could be a reason to move, but is there proof we'd be able to recruit any better in the CAA as opposed to the AE? The downsides of the CAA are the increased travel and sports like Lacrosse may take a hit in that league.

If we did move to the CAA however, it's likely we wouldn't be alone. Albany I'm almost certain would tag along which would make the jump a bit more attractive.

Heilbron can want to take us to FBS, but there's no chance in Hell we move to FBS before JMU. JMU already has the facilities, stadium, and winning tradition to be attractive to an FBS conference TODAY. They turned the Sun Belt down a few years ago and are arguably a more attractive school than ODU for a conference. They're the next team out the door and when they're gone, expect significant changes to the CAA.

Our average home attendance last year (3,221) would have put us ahead of three A-10 teams Ė Duquesne, Fordham and LaSalle, all perennial doormats Ė and just behind George Washington, which ranked 11th in the 14-team conference. The arena, while beautiful, does cap in the low 4,000s, but a media friend told me that the A-10 "would trade La Salle for Stony Brook tomorrow if it could."

In the CAA, we would've ranked third behind UNCW and C of C. Our attendance is double what Hofstra, Towson, Northeastern and Elon get, and TRIPLE what Drexel drew. Two years ago, we'd have been second.

Do I smell an expansion of IFCU in the future??? Now thats asking a bit much!!

IFCU wouldn't need an expansion for a while. The building is sufficient for most conferences as things stand right now. The only way i see that change is if The American (AAC) or one of the big boy conferences starts considering SBU for inclusion and that would be many years down the line if ever.

I'd love to hear more from this media source though. The A10 is always rumored to be losing Dayton, Richmond, VCU, Umass, and others to various conferences. We could definitely back-fill nicely if some spots open up. Look towards the A10 guys, I couldn't give a **** about the CAA (all-sports).
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on August 18, 2017, 05:39:38 pm
I would take it.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on August 31, 2017, 01:34:23 pm
Tyree Pickron is visiting Stony Brook September 7 through 9 https://twitter.com/PatLawless_/status/902682930799140864

He also set his college announcement date as September 15. I think he would be a great addition.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on September 04, 2017, 10:20:22 pm
https://twitter.com/Mles30/status/904858977003036673
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on September 05, 2017, 09:32:10 am
https://twitter.com/Mles30/status/904858977003036673

Good find. I like how well he uses his left.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on September 06, 2017, 04:00:51 pm
https://twitter.com/Mles30/status/904858977003036673

Good find. I like how well he uses his left.

Agreed. looks like he has a nice bball iq too.

In other news, Tyree Pickron is visiting this weekend. I think he would be a great addition.

https://twitter.com/DelgrecoWilson/status/891695071585738752
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on September 14, 2017, 09:32:21 pm
Tyree Pickron is scheduled to announce his commitment tomorrow. Would love to add to this class.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on September 15, 2017, 10:55:56 am
Fingers crossed he likes what he saw at SBU.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on September 15, 2017, 01:56:06 pm
most of those schools on his radar look like direct competitors of ours- qpac, hartford, etc.

the one that stands out to me is bowling green.  bball aside, i'd consider their larger picture to be a different idea than the rest of the pack.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on September 15, 2017, 02:30:04 pm
most of those schools on his radar look like direct competitors of ours- qpac, hartford, etc.

the one that stands out to me is bowling green.  bball aside, i'd consider their larger picture to be a different idea than the rest of the pack.

Reportedly he's narrowed the list down to SBU, QPAC and Bowling Green.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on September 15, 2017, 02:43:59 pm
And he picked Quinnipiac. Bummer
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Tml on September 15, 2017, 09:08:34 pm
SB has two freshman PGs, a commitment from another and a boatload of wings. They don't really play with a traditional 2.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on September 18, 2017, 07:13:12 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=4YKhz0Wd9cc

https://twitter.com/RealCoachQ/status/908860513026760704

Mickey Pearson was on an official visit to Stony Brook visit. Would be a great addition.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on September 18, 2017, 08:13:58 pm
He would be a great pick up !
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on September 18, 2017, 08:16:45 pm
nice jumper for 6'7''
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on September 26, 2017, 11:27:35 am
Mickey Pearson has official visits scheduled for St. Louis and Bradley. So far he has taken officials to Wofford and Stony Brook. I believe players are allowed to take 5 official visits, so presumably Stony Brook is in the top 5.

https://twitter.com/endless_motor/status/911351220354285568
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on September 27, 2017, 08:33:19 am
Doesn't seem to be a big-time athlete. More a 4 than a 3.

If we're in a conversation with A-10 and MVC schools, this coaching staff and administration has already seen the fruits of their labor.


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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on October 03, 2017, 10:26:03 am
I spent the 10 bucks to read this article on Frankie Policelli https://nychoops.rivals.com/news/policelli-talks-transfer-recruitment

The most interesting to part to Stony Brook fans is posted below

A versatile weapon who can play and thrive at multiple positions on the floor, while also being a great student off the court as well, Policelli said on Friday night that he has lined up an official visit to George Washington on October 8th, and that he will also try and visit Fordham and Stony Brook at some point, though he stressed that he isn't in any rush to make his final decision.

"I don't really know. It's all when it feels right," Policelli explained. "Whether I commit now or I commit later it's really about having it feel right to me."


Love that hes planning a visit to Stony Brook, but it sounds like he might wait for the spring period to sign.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on October 03, 2017, 11:23:21 am
I spent the 10 bucks to read this article on Frankie Policelli https://nychoops.rivals.com/news/policelli-talks-transfer-recruitment

The most interesting to part to Stony Brook fans is posted below

A versatile weapon who can play and thrive at multiple positions on the floor, while also being a great student off the court as well, Policelli said on Friday night that he has lined up an official visit to George Washington on October 8th, and that he will also try and visit Fordham and Stony Brook at some point, though he stressed that he isn't in any rush to make his final decision.

"I don't really know. It's all when it feels right," Policelli explained. "Whether I commit now or I commit later it's really about having it feel right to me."


Oh man. I know that predicament well, SBU Fan!

Verbal Commits has Policelli at 6-8/155. Gotta eat, son!

Love that hes planning a visit to Stony Brook, but it sounds like he might wait for the spring period to sign.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on October 03, 2017, 11:39:54 am
Worth noting that Policelli is a top 150 recruit according to Rivals
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: VA_Seawolf on October 03, 2017, 11:59:32 am
Worth noting that Policelli is a top 150 recruit according to Rivals

Have we ever gotten someone like that?? Was Warney rated that highly?
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on October 03, 2017, 04:51:06 pm
I spent the 10 bucks to read this article on Frankie Policelli https://nychoops.rivals.com/news/policelli-talks-transfer-recruitment

The most interesting to part to Stony Brook fans is posted below

A versatile weapon who can play and thrive at multiple positions on the floor, while also being a great student off the court as well, Policelli said on Friday night that he has lined up an official visit to George Washington on October 8th, and that he will also try and visit Fordham and Stony Brook at some point, though he stressed that he isn't in any rush to make his final decision.

"I don't really know. It's all when it feels right," Policelli explained. "Whether I commit now or I commit later it's really about having it feel right to me."


Oh man. I know that predicament well, SBU Fan!

Verbal Commits has Policelli at 6-8/155. Gotta eat, son!

Love that hes planning a visit to Stony Brook, but it sounds like he might wait for the spring period to sign.

Sounds like a long shot!!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Tml on October 03, 2017, 06:49:36 pm
Worth noting that Policelli is a top 150 recruit according to Rivals

Have we ever gotten someone like that?? Was Warney rated that highly?

No even close.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on October 05, 2017, 01:48:47 pm
https://twitter.com/AdamFinkelstein/status/915976755353194497

Policelli will be visiting during homecoming. Let's goooo
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on October 08, 2017, 05:53:24 pm
6-6 SG Jules Moor 2018 Seawolves

https://mobile.twitter.com/jules_moor/status/917132298058960896
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Wolfie_MD on October 08, 2017, 06:53:13 pm
Hargrave connection starting to pay dividends- our assistant coach Thornton will hopefully be an asset.

Moore looks like an athletic wing. In a couple of years this team will be running all over the court. I'm really excited about this team's future.

I'm really interested to see what our PG situation will develop into. We have tons of athletes all over the floor which will be exciting.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on October 09, 2017, 07:10:02 am
Some video on him ...

https://youtu.be/V4lclu9jyA4
https://youtu.be/XQNOYgKBUPI


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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on October 09, 2017, 01:00:26 pm
  Another great signing.   The future of this team is bright .
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on October 10, 2017, 10:07:40 am
On his Hargrave profile ...

"Loves to listen to Thelonious Monk, John Coltrane, Dave Brubeck and Charles Mingus to relax during down time"

Different kinda kid, wouldn't you say?

Talent-wise, he seems a little fringy from my perspective, but the post-grad year should help and the coaches can evaluate these guys better than I can.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on October 10, 2017, 01:49:25 pm
those are good artists, classics in their space, and i must say, shows some maturity on his part!

otherwise- i like the commitment.  maybe im alone on this one, but im more concerned with our bigs.  we are dominant when we have great talent in the paint, whether it's warney or brenton or joyner, etc.  also, the AE is a league where 1/2/3 talent can pile up; not so much in the 4/5.  VT has presence inside and so they win.  so i love what we are doing there, but show me the bigs!!!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: steveoh on October 10, 2017, 02:46:09 pm
With recruits, I always look to see what other schools offered to see what level they're at. Hopefully our RPIs are in the same ballpark or better.

Jules Moor held offers from IUPUI and St. Francis (PA). I actually thought IUPUI was better than what their RPI says, but they've been bad recently, as have St. Francis. Also, you never know what offers he would have received as the season went on. He might be on the verge of breaking out.

Either way, we're excited to have you on the team, Jules.

#InBoalsWeTrust
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on October 11, 2017, 10:38:21 pm
We are going to need more length in 2018.. With only Ochefu on the roster, Alex Christie is a great addition. But still need more. Hopefully Tre King (another Hargrave connection) and Alanzo Frink (Roselle/Warney connection) are seriously considering SB.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on October 20, 2017, 06:28:32 am
Talking about length, we recently offered Jeffrey Otchere, a JuCo 6-10 center

http://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/920695729420623873

Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on October 20, 2017, 09:11:30 am
Talking about length, we recently offered Jeffrey Otchere, a JuCo 6-10 center

http://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/920695729420623873
Would that offer be for this season?
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on October 20, 2017, 09:27:37 am
i was confused too... says he was at delaware state, but verbalcommits has him listed as a RS freshman this year, but that he's at garden city CC.  he's not on the roster, but why go to CC, in kansas, when you're from the bronx, if youre not on the team???

we need bigs, however this freshman class is shaping up to be a monster.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on October 20, 2017, 11:14:22 am
I agree it's confusing. May be he was comittitted to Delaware st but ended up playing at garden city CC. I don't know why or how. And VC has conflicting report stating both this year and 2018. I think 2018 is more correct. And if he does accept our offer, he will at the best be backing up Alex Christie. A 6-10 with talent usually doesn't play in CC. Still we need bigs next year besides Christie.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on November 08, 2017, 11:41:53 am
https://twitter.com/AyalewAdam/status/928296315561357313?s=17

Miles Latimer signs NLI :)
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 08, 2017, 12:00:25 pm
thanks.  looks like victor potter's offer list right now is just SB and Quinnipiac.  also o'connell has offers from just SB and Columbia.  would be nice to get either or both!

soriano and somerville intrigue me too... dont know enough about them though.

Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on November 08, 2017, 12:14:43 pm
I hope we can bring in Frankie Policelli. But he is keep adding high major offers.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 08, 2017, 12:22:30 pm
isnt 155lbs a red flag at 6'9''?  for this position???

i'd also like to see us get rombley, considering who the other offers are from.  abaev not so sure.

Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on November 08, 2017, 01:30:42 pm
isnt 155lbs a red flag at 6'9''?  for this position???

i'd also like to see us get rombley, considering who the other offers are from.  abaev not so sure.

He is 6-8, 215lb now. Plays more small forward position. Not back to the basket. His teammate at LuHi Donatasi Kupsas also looks pretty good talent.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 08, 2017, 01:33:16 pm
ive noticed kupsas is getting big attention. 

i forgot that HS kids grow!

i think the twitter feed said he's 6'9'' now.  either way, at that height, id think we'd want to use him back to the basket no? 
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on November 08, 2017, 01:33:59 pm
Sorry forgot to provide the link

http://www.syracuse.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/06/new_series_new_hartfords_frankie_policelli_navigates_college_basketball_recruiti.html
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on November 08, 2017, 01:35:58 pm
ive noticed kupsas is getting big attention. 

i forgot that HS kids grow!

i think the twitter feed said he's 6'9'' now.  either way, at that height, id think we'd want to use him back to the basket no?

I guess thatís why we probably wonít get him. In AE he has PF/C height. But in high major he will probably play his natural position.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 08, 2017, 02:12:30 pm
agreed- we are saying the same.  GO SB
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on November 08, 2017, 03:43:12 pm
Jules Moor is "officially a Seawolf."

https://twitter.com/jules_moor/status/928344341348745216
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on November 08, 2017, 07:19:40 pm
Anymore updates or surprises today?
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 10, 2017, 03:53:57 pm
we knew this already, but VerbalCommits is reporting that Christie signed: https://verbalcommits.com/schools/stony-brook

Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on November 13, 2017, 11:15:01 am
All three signed NLI:
http://www.stonybrookathletics.com/news/2017/11/11/mens-basketball-three-sign-in-boals-second-recruiting-class.aspx

So, where does this leave us in terms of schollies? I think 2 more spots left. Are we going to fill up the rest with experienced JUCO, or should we expect another Freshman?
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on November 13, 2017, 11:42:48 am
All three signed NLI:
http://www.stonybrookathletics.com/news/2017/11/11/mens-basketball-three-sign-in-boals-second-recruiting-class.aspx

So, where does this leave us in terms of schollies? I think 2 more spots left. Are we going to fill up the rest with experienced JUCO, or should we expect another Freshman?

Alex Christie is 7'-0". Thats great but can he shoot?.  We've been around the AE long enough to know how 7'0" who come here dont always pan out. I am not saying that is the case with Alex.. I would like to see Boals go after some more bigs, who can rebound and not afraid to pound the boards..
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on November 13, 2017, 12:05:36 pm
I’m pretty high on Alex. Boals can polish him to be a good mid major center.

The Canadian native is a mountain of a man who is typically listed at 7-feet tall and has dramatically improved his conditioning within the last year since arriving at MacDuffie. This spring he played consistent minutes on a BABC team that extended their natinoal record for consecutive appearances at the Nike Peach Jam.

Christie is a true big man who brings the type of size that will be nearly unmatched in the America East Conference along with good footwork and soft hands.


https://newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/christie-is-america-east-bound
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on November 13, 2017, 12:59:42 pm
All three signed NLI:
http://www.stonybrookathletics.com/news/2017/11/11/mens-basketball-three-sign-in-boals-second-recruiting-class.aspx

So, where does this leave us in terms of schollies? I think 2 more spots left. Are we going to fill up the rest with experienced JUCO, or should we expect another Freshman?

I'm pretty high on these three. Latimer committed to us before the July signing period so he doesn't have as much hype as he probably should, but he's a really nice get. Jules Moor scored 23 points against huntington prep the other night and is looking like a steal. Also really encouraged because he has a similar profile to Jordan Mackenzie (no apparent offers in high school, and only a couple when he got to Hargrave) and that seems to be really working out for us. Christie is huge with a college ready frame. I think he won't have to fill up the stat sheet to have a significant impact on the game.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 13, 2017, 08:00:38 pm
Any time I hear we have a 7 footer coming to SBU I get a smile on my face. Sure they don't always pan out, but you can't coach size. Great to hear.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on November 15, 2017, 09:56:51 am
Some Jules Moor highlights from Hargrave

https://twitter.com/TakeMyTalent/status/930605227887202304
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on November 15, 2017, 05:45:12 pm
2018 F Nick Alikakos had an unofficial visit to Stony Brook. Originally 2017, uncommitted from Navy and now in prep school.

https://twitter.com/jmverlin/status/929835009506271232?s=17
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on December 04, 2017, 02:13:17 pm
It's interesting that Hassan Ceesay, who plays at Olaniyi's alma mater, Newark East Side, has an offer from us (per VC). Ceesay will be the top dog at ESHS with Elijah doing his thing over here. He was 2nd team All-Group 4 last year; Olaniyi made 1st team.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on December 04, 2017, 04:40:39 pm
If he is anything like Elijah he is a keeper .  That kid came to play and has shown it .
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on December 07, 2017, 02:56:59 pm
Some highlights of Miles Latimer. Your first impression will be "his hair is terrible" but then I think you'll see he's an athletic, high-energy kid. I like the passion.

https://twitter.com/HoopMajor/status/938815530454134785
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on December 07, 2017, 03:39:18 pm
Some highlights of Miles Latimer. Your first impression will be "his hair is terrible" but then I think you'll see he's an athletic, high-energy kid. I like the passion.

https://twitter.com/HoopMajor/status/938815530454134785

He also looks like he has a high bball iq which you can never have too much of. If he didn't commit before the July recruiting period, Latimer would have a lot more hype.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on December 13, 2017, 10:13:00 pm
It's interesting that Hassan Ceesay, who plays at Olaniyi's alma mater, Newark East Side, has an offer from us (per VC). Ceesay will be the top dog at ESHS with Elijah doing his thing over here. He was 2nd team All-Group 4 last year; Olaniyi made 1st team.

That was quick. Ceesay committed to Stony Brook!

https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/941140574786039808
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on December 13, 2017, 10:30:11 pm
It's interesting that Hassan Ceesay, who plays at Olaniyi's alma mater, Newark East Side, has an offer from us (per VC). Ceesay will be the top dog at ESHS with Elijah doing his thing over here. He was 2nd team All-Group 4 last year; Olaniyi made 1st team.

That was quick. Ceesay committed to Stony Brook!

https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/941140574786039808
I can't find any other schools offering Hassan. IS he really that good of a guard?
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on December 14, 2017, 06:34:48 am
I can't find any other schools offering Hassan. IS he really that good of a guard?

I remember thinking he was good last year when I was following Olaniyi. He dislocated his knee last March so he missed the major recruiting periods in April and July where kids get most of their offers.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on December 14, 2017, 08:38:41 am
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/4887213/5721e1670c5e681224bc37fc
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on January 02, 2018, 11:50:33 am
Not sure where to put this..... For all the people who say it makes no sense to move SB into the CAA and it is a waste of time!.. I say bologna. The CAA conference is ahead of the AE by a fairly good margin, and usually is every year.. Some people say the CAA is still a one bid league and it would only be a lateral. This is true but the CAA is knocking on the door of an at large conference.. If UA and SB make that improvable move into the CAA I think that will help the CAA to become a better conference, well, UA will help more than us lately. But I think you guys get the idea.

The AE is ranked #23 out of #32 conferences and the CAA is ranked #14...


https://herosports.com/rankings/college-basketball     
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 03, 2018, 06:02:46 pm
Not sure where to put this..... For all the people who say it makes no sense to move SB into the CAA and it is a waste of time!.. I say bologna. The CAA conference is ahead of the AE by a fairly good margin, and usually is every year.. Some people say the CAA is still a one bid league and it would only be a lateral. This is true but the CAA is knocking on the door of an at large conference.. If UA and SB make that improvable move into the CAA I think that will help the CAA to become a better conference, well, UA will help more than us lately. But I think you guys get the idea.

The AE is ranked #23 out of #32 conferences and the CAA is ranked #14...


https://herosports.com/rankings/college-basketball     

Us and Albany would make the conference better, but it would do little to get the league an at-large bid so let's kill that idea right now.

What would make the CAA expand right now and who is to say Hofstra, Northeastern, etc. don't move to kill the expansion like they did last time? Only reason they expand is if JMU and/or Delaware go FBS and they're looking to backfill. The programs that made the CAA a multi-bid conference are mostly in the A10 now and that league ain't budging until Dayton, St. Louis, VCU, and/or Umass are all gone. At 14 they have no reason to make a move right now.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on January 08, 2018, 11:38:29 am
Worth noting: Donatas Kupsas, a PF from LuHi, has removed us from consideration. His list is down to Fordham, Hofstra and, you guessed it, Weber State.

Supposedly we're still in the mix for his teammate, stringy southpaw Frankie Policelli, but I think we're a darkhorse at best for him. Dayton, Cincinnati, VCU, and many others on his list.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on January 08, 2018, 12:07:16 pm
Worth noting: Donatas Kupsas, a PF from LuHi, has removed us from consideration. His list is down to Fordham, Hofstra and, you guessed it, Weber State.

Supposedly we're still in the mix for his teammate, stringy southpaw Frankie Policelli, but I think we're a darkhorse at best for him. Dayton, Cincinnati, VCU, and many others on his list.

Thanks for that update, checkmate. I wont hold my breath with expecting Policelli neither. We are up against some pretty strong mid major schools..
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on January 08, 2018, 03:45:32 pm
The AE isn't exactly a place these kids want to play in .  Sounds like two high mid major talents and we will probably lose both .
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 08, 2018, 07:55:56 pm
I can't fault a kid for looking at AAC and A10 schools over the AE. You expect that.


Losing kids to Fordham, Hofstra, and Weber St.?? Now that stings.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Wolfie_MD on January 09, 2018, 12:02:22 am
Policelli looks like he could be a stud at the AE level- would love to see him at Stony Brook. Great height and ball-handling combination.

There's something to be said to being the focus of this team. Will see- Boals has pulled in some good talent the last couple years.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on January 09, 2018, 11:14:04 am
Worth noting: Donatas Kupsas, a PF from LuHi, has removed us from consideration. His list is down to Fordham, Hofstra and, you guessed it, Weber State.

Supposedly we're still in the mix for his teammate, stringy southpaw Frankie Policelli, but I think we're a darkhorse at best for him. Dayton, Cincinnati, VCU, and many others on his list.

Thanks for that update, checkmate. I wont hold my breath with expecting Policelli neither. We are up against some pretty strong mid major schools..

Aaaaand Kupsas is going to Weber State. https://twitter.com/Kupsas13/status/950547476867698688. Different strokes, different folks, I guess.

I like this kid Tre King who's down at Hargrave with Moor. He may be out of our league, but maybe the HMA connection and the chance to play with a teammate sways his opinion somehow. Whatever we do with the last scholarship, we have to bulk up. Right now, we're looking at a hardly used sophomore (Ochefu) and a freshman (Christie) in the paint next year.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on January 09, 2018, 04:27:59 pm
Another big body will help for sure.  So a high talent goes to Weber State out in the middle of nowhere to play basketball .  Don't understand that at all considering Fordham and Hofstra  are at least in an urban area.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on January 10, 2018, 08:44:37 am
I don't know much about him, but I'm hoping we can land Jeffrey Otchere. Junior College kid and former Canisius and Delaware State commit with three years of eligibility left.
 Hhttp://www.verbalcommits.com/players/jeffrey-otchere
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on January 10, 2018, 10:56:09 am
Jeff Otchere is a better option than any 2018 SBU recruit regardless of position. Past recruit or current. His upside is higher than Warney's was.
He leads the entire country in blocks on the JUCO level. His defense is considerably ahead of his offense, he'd shatter the Block record. His motor is tremendous. Plays hard every single possession. Freakish athlete. Stands 6'11 with a 7'5 wingspan.Primetime Run and jump athlete. Kid can switch onto guards and perimeter players in pick and roll and contain them with no issue. He plays in the Jayhawk confernce in Juco (Top 3 juco conference in the land). That's where assistant coach Geno Ford used to go and get all those Juco studs while he was the head man at Bradley.
The kids offense (Jump shot,Feel and Pace,ball handling) need big improvement. But his defense is something you NEVER see in the AE.
He's got offers from all over the country now but really would love to see him be a Seawolf.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on January 10, 2018, 11:05:09 am
From what I've gathered by speaking to people in the know. OTCHERE is a late bloomer with only 3 or 4 years of basketball experience,Grew 10 inches in High school. Born and raised in Bronx,NY. Attended a prep school for a post grad year to get his grades in order (15-16 season). Committed to Delaware state and attended during the 16-17 year. Didn't Qualify so he had to Prop 48/Redshirt there that year. Decided to head to Juco for a year and compete as a Redshirt Freshman ,leave with an AA degree and have 3 years at D1. From all accounts he's a quiet to himself kind of kid, that just gets after it.

Here's Film: https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=4s&v=kMaR7-K6pJw
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 10, 2018, 11:20:14 am
10 seconds of film was all i needed.  where do i sign up?  can i take this kid out to dinner and tell him all the benefits of going to SB?

i've been aware of him on our radar but didnt know much, so this is useful information, thanks Ball.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 10, 2018, 11:24:38 am
sorry just wanted to add- he plays in the paint with an aggressive, almost violent intensity, reminiscent of warney.  it's exactly what we need inside.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on January 10, 2018, 11:35:12 am
I've been told Boals and Ford are all over that kid and that he isn't so enamored by bigger schools coming after him. He's got 15 plus offers, some WAC and A10 level stuff, and being in that Juco conference, doing what he does and having the upside he has it's only a matter of days/weeks before Big12,SEC,PAC 12 get on him.
Don't know how exactly SBU gets that potential Stud to come back home, but being a late bloomer and not being in awe of big name programs has been a recipe in the past for some special players to end up at lower level D1's.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 10, 2018, 11:45:13 am
looking at the list- id have to think that our likely competition is NMSU, fordham, southern miss, ODU.  and only one is even close to local.

i note that as it stands- there are virtually no bigs in his way in the next three seasons.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on January 10, 2018, 11:46:12 am
Great info  on this recruit if we can land him .  That is just what we need up front  . A couple years dominating in the paint again and off the glass .
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on January 10, 2018, 11:56:47 am
Super Aggressive with a super motor. If anyone remembers 2015 recruit that attended high school in Long Island
Named Cheick Diallo, think Diallo(Motor Wise) with less refined offense/feel but same level of defense, with a higher upside and more physical gifts.
You don't see guys like that in America East.
With development under Boals, this guy would be shooting 3s by Junior year. That's Scary.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on January 10, 2018, 02:00:57 pm
From what I've gathered by speaking to people in the know. OTCHERE is a late bloomer with only 3 or 4 years of basketball experience,Grew 10 inches in High school. Born and raised in Bronx,NY. Attended a prep school for a post grad year to get his grades in order (15-16 season). Committed to Delaware state and attended during the 16-17 year. Didn't Qualify so he had to Prop 48/Redshirt there that year. Decided to head to Juco for a year and compete as a Redshirt Freshman ,leave with an AA degree and have 3 years at D1. From all accounts he's a quiet to himself kind of kid, that just gets after it.

Here's Film: https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=4s&v=kMaR7-K6pJw
Sign him up Boals. Do what you have to do to get this kid. He would be a instant POY and SB would be knocking on the door of the NCAA for 3 years with him in the paint..
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on January 10, 2018, 02:07:56 pm
Super Aggressive with a super motor. If anyone remembers 2015 recruit that attended high school in Long Island
Named Cheick Diallo, think Diallo(Motor Wise) with less refined offense/feel but same level of defense, with a higher upside and more physical gifts.
You don't see guys like that in America East.
With development under Boals, this guy would be shooting 3s by Junior year. That's Scary.

I'm getting a woody just thinking about what if!!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on January 10, 2018, 04:32:49 pm
From what I've gathered by speaking to people in the know. OTCHERE is a late bloomer with only 3 or 4 years of basketball experience,Grew 10 inches in High school. Born and raised in Bronx,NY. Attended a prep school for a post grad year to get his grades in order (15-16 season). Committed to Delaware state and attended during the 16-17 year. Didn't Qualify so he had to Prop 48/Redshirt there that year. Decided to head to Juco for a year and compete as a Redshirt Freshman ,leave with an AA degree and have 3 years at D1. From all accounts he's a quiet to himself kind of kid, that just gets after it.

Here's Film: https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=4s&v=kMaR7-K6pJw

Thanks for all the info Ballhard! Those highlights are absurd, really exciting upside. I hope he comes to Stony Brook.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on January 10, 2018, 07:14:29 pm
I agree the guy has a limitless ceiling.
Potential POY and DPOY type.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on January 10, 2018, 07:42:46 pm
10 seconds of film was all i needed.  where do i sign up?  can i take this kid out to dinner and tell him all the benefits of going to SB?

i've been aware of him on our radar but didnt know much, so this is useful information, thanks Ball.

LOL. Same! He can stay at my house! Or become my son!

When I read Ballís assessment that he had higher upside than Warney, I thought maybe he had a screw loose. But MY GOD, that kid is ruthless!


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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 10, 2018, 08:00:12 pm
agreed, agreed, agreed.

blocks galore on that film.  blocks are one of those things, where it may not cause a turnover like a steal, or gain a possession like a rebound, but they are demoralizing for the shooter, removes an attempt, gets the crowd riled up. 
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 10, 2018, 08:36:47 pm
If we can get him, great, but as mentioned, he'll probably be on the radar of the power conference schools soon if he's that good. He can pretty much choose wherever he wants to go. Unless you've heard him say something that indicates he likes SBU, I wouldn't get my hopes up too high.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on January 11, 2018, 04:56:44 am
10 seconds of film was all i needed.  where do i sign up?  can i take this kid out to dinner and tell him all the benefits of going to SB?

i've been aware of him on our radar but didnt know much, so this is useful information, thanks Ball.

LOL. Same! He can stay at my house! Or become my son!

When I read Ballís assessment that he had higher upside than Warney, I thought maybe he had a screw loose. But MY GOD, that kid is ruthless!


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I'd think my elevator doesn't go all the way up as well LOL, til I watch the film.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on February 09, 2018, 02:21:55 pm
I'm looking forward to seeing the kid Latimer get here. At first, I thought "this guy isn't even starting for his HS team as a senior?!?!?" but then you see that the team's ranked fourth in the country and he has blue-chippers in front of him, and it makes me appreciate that he has a definitive role with the team. Every day in practice is a good test.

https://twitter.com/CapitolHoops/status/957375642475036672

Just in the backcourt ...
Trevor Keels ('21) Ė freshman who has an offer from Wake Forest
Jeremy Roach ('20) Ė 5 star
Anthony Harris ('19) Ė 4 star
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: OldSeawolf on February 10, 2018, 10:25:08 am
Re: Otchere, not to be a downer, but how often does the AE get a "player' with that kind of size to come to our conference?  Especially with the sophisticated recruiting element of today.  Certainly not never, but very rarely - Coppenrath (at 6'9""), Warney (at 6'8"), Reggie Lewis (at 6'7"), Malik Rose (at 6'7"), and Vin Baker (at 6'11"), are definitely the exceptions to that rule over the last 30+ years.

If I'm recruiting him to SBU, I'm being totally straight with the kid and try to sell him on the following "package":

1) Convince him going to the NBA is a very remote possibility (that is, be straight with him);
2) Emphasize that if he excels in the AE, he's certainly got a shot at playing in Europe;
3) He's going to get a 1st class education at SBU, which will set him up for life;
4) He's going to get a helluva lot of minutes right out of the gate, if he comes to SBU, as opposed to other schools;
5) He can be the fulcrum and the magnet that draws future recruits, of a potential dynasty at SBU;  won't be the same elsewhere;
6) Trips to the big dance from a mid-major always get good press;
7) You will be playing close to home - great for friends and family to see you live;     
8) Sell him on our beautiful arena;
9) Mention how our past grads have played professionally;
10) Ask him if that shiny, new Lexus parked in Grad Chem, belongs to anyone he knows?  ;D

P.S. Ignore that sinister smiley face on # 8 (couldn't get rid of it via edit for some reason)
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on February 10, 2018, 12:48:18 pm
4,5,9 are what we have going.  point to PT and warney's trailblazing.  he could be the next full court meelz.  now go get em.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: steveoh on February 12, 2018, 12:33:57 pm
Miles Latimer is shooting 80% from the charity stripe this season.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/allmetsports/2017-winter/paul-vi-catholic/boys-basketball/?utm_term=.a5692de03641

Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on February 12, 2018, 12:56:43 pm
We need all the help we  can get in that department . 80% is more than excellent for any team.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: OldSeawolf on February 12, 2018, 02:43:23 pm
Miles Latimer is shooting 80% from the charity stripe this season.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/allmetsports/2017-winter/paul-vi-catholic/boys-basketball/?utm_term=.a5692de03641

Sorry that's 16% higher than the current team's average; not acceptable.   ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on February 17, 2018, 02:51:34 pm
Latimer is an A10 caliber kid who would be on the All rookie team after competing there his freshman year.He's always played with 5 star talent in AAU (Team takeover) and HS (Paul IV). So he's always come off the bench. He could start on many of the other teams in DC. This is a kid that may make a summer league roster some day and earn a few hundred thousand bucks a year playing in Europe. He's that good and attending SBU will allow him to Florish greatly. If Latimer didn't commit before attending Oladipo camp last July where 100 MM-HM coaches were
He'd be on his way to an A10 or Big East school.He dominated the competition there, a lot of top 100 kids were there and he out played many of them. He's one of the best recruiting steals on the East coast.

SBU's perimeter attack will be one of the best in the AE next season. Yeboah,Elijah,Cornish,Latimer
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on February 17, 2018, 02:53:17 pm
4,5,9 are what we have going.  point to PT and warney's trailblazing.  he could be the next full court meelz.  now go get em.
You should be on the coaching staff. You'd probably land Otchere
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on February 17, 2018, 07:53:06 pm
Latimer is an A10 caliber kid who would be on the All rookie team after competing there his freshman year.He's always played with 5 star talent in AAU (Team takeover) and HS (Paul IV). So he's always come off the bench. He could start on many of the other teams in DC. This is a kid that may make a summer league roster some day and earn a few hundred thousand bucks a year playing in Europe. He's that good and attending SBU will allow him to Florish greatly. If Latimer didn't commit before attending Oladipo camp last July where 100 MM-HM coaches were
He'd be on his way to an A10 or Big East school.He dominated the competition there, a lot of top 100 kids were there and he out played many of them. He's one of the best recruiting steals on the East coast.

SBU's perimeter attack will be one of the best in the AE next season. Yeboah,Elijah,Cornish,Latimer

Post more often, Ball. This is encouraging info that we need to hear more of.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on February 18, 2018, 08:23:19 am
Hassan Ceesay is also a steal. Not as big a steal as Latimer though. Had Ceesay not gotten hurt before AAU last year, he'd be an A10 commit at minimum. Everyone who was sniffing around fell back from the kid due to injury. His former HS teammate is a steal for Stony Brook currently as a frosh. He could of went to Dayton. Well Ceesay has a higher ceiling than Elijah due to his natural stroke. Kid can put up points in bunches.
Next years team should have legitimate floor spacing if everyone is healthy.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on February 18, 2018, 11:07:58 am
This is great info .   I think next year will be the turn around year for us getting back on the winning ways.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on February 18, 2018, 11:32:34 am
Article on Otchere's recruitment. Sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders and isn't simply looking for the biggest school.

http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/02/18/2018-juco-center-jeffrey-otchere-talks-recruiting-development/
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on February 18, 2018, 12:26:22 pm
Article on Otchere's recruitment. Sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders and isn't simply looking for the biggest school.

http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/02/18/2018-juco-center-jeffrey-otchere-talks-recruiting-development/
Looks like a far fetch landing Otchere. If so, then i would be shocked!!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on February 18, 2018, 01:15:55 pm
The young man did say he's cutting his list down very soon. If SBU makes the final cut Coach B needs to go all in on him. Recruit him ultra hard til then.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on February 21, 2018, 10:36:43 am
Otchere is blowing up. Washington State just offered the kid.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on February 21, 2018, 11:12:48 am
im much more doubtful now. 

better hope christie is ready to go.  or perhaps another transfer but i dont see one on the radar.  yet.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on February 21, 2018, 02:53:25 pm
im much more doubtful now. 

better hope christie is ready to go.  or perhaps another transfer but i dont see one on the radar.  yet.

I watched that video for about five seconds and figured he wasn't coming. He looks to be an incredible defensive force, which you don't see much of in this league.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on February 21, 2018, 03:14:52 pm
Sal Nuhu of the Bronx,NY over at Hutchinson CC needs to be recruited. 6'8 4/5 with long arms. Can hit a face up J and score near the rim. Blocks shots and can defend in the high post and perimeter somewhat. Not sure what his recruitment looks like but he's making impact on a top Juco team in the country and he's from NY
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on February 21, 2018, 03:44:07 pm
We can only hope at this point that a decent big for the AE is on the radar .  Ochefu is 6'8 and Christi is 7 ft. need a 6'10 type in there to balance things .  Someone who is defensively minded but could give us 10-12 points in a game.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on February 21, 2018, 04:27:08 pm
Sal Nuhu of the Bronx,NY over at Hutchinson CC needs to be recruited. 6'8 4/5 with long arms. Can hit a face up J and score near the rim. Blocks shots and can defend in the high post and perimeter somewhat. Not sure what his recruitment looks like but he's making impact on a top Juco team in the country and he's from NY

Thanks for keeping us up to date with potential recruits and who's who on SB radar!!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on February 21, 2018, 04:40:13 pm
not that i think all info on the web is right... but why does this say he is 6'5'' and 22???

http://www.ncsasports.org/mens-basketball-recruiting/new-york/bronx/taft-educational-campus/sal-nuhu

i think he is 6'5'' and his wingspan is 6'8''.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on February 22, 2018, 09:22:48 am
Chairman, that profile was created before 2013. Nuhu didn't enter Juco until 2016, hence why he's finishing at Juco in 2018. He's 6'8 I've seen him play in person. Back in 2012 while he was a student at Taft HS he was 6'5.
His wingspan is more in the neighborhood of 7 feet.
Hutchinson won the national JUCO championship last season and looks to make another run this year.Nuhu was an important piece to last years Chip team at Hutch.  He backed up Shakur Pinder who is a stud at UNLV right now and won National Juco player of the year. Kid is battle tested. And yes he is 22 years old. Won't have any maturity issues.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on February 22, 2018, 09:50:36 am
i just wasnt sure if the 22 was locked in time or updated, meaning, you normally don't grow three inches after 22.

either way- very helpful.

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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on February 22, 2018, 10:02:41 am
Gotcha, You Make a lot of sense.
Nuhu was a teen when that profile was made. He's 22 now.
Just did further research he is 10th all time in blocked shots at Hutchinson CC.
That juco has been a high major breeding ground the past 20-25 years ,so that's pretty impressive in my opinion.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on February 22, 2018, 10:54:47 am
We can only hope at this point that a decent big for the AE is on the radar .  Ochefu is 6'8 and Christi is 7 ft. need a 6'10 type in there to balance things .  Someone who is defensively minded but could give us 10-12 points in a game.

I thought Almonacy wouldn't be on the team after last year. I believe it to be even more likely now with Cornish, McKenzie and (probably) Long back, and with Ceesay and Latimer on their way.

Any movement would open up a much needed roster spot.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: OldSeawolf on February 22, 2018, 11:22:15 am
We can only hope at this point that a decent big for the AE is on the radar .  Ochefu is 6'8 and Christi is 7 ft. need a 6'10 type in there to balance things .  Someone who is defensively minded but could give us 10-12 points in a game.

I thought Almonacy wouldn't be on the team after last year. I believe it to be even more likely now with Cornish, McKenzie and (probably) Long back, and with Ceesay and Latimer on their way.

Any movement would open up a much needed roster spot.

Are Ceesay and Latimer considered to be point guard material?   Neither Cornish or McKenzie are starting point material, IMO.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on February 22, 2018, 12:22:35 pm
Cornish is a stud if he could harness his athleticism. He will get a lot better over the summer, I wouldn't count him out. Latimer can help some with Bball handling duties.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: OldSeawolf on February 22, 2018, 12:33:05 pm
Cornish is a stud if he could harness his athleticism. He will get a lot better over the summer, I wouldn't count him out. Latimer can help some with Bball handling duties.

Don't disagree with his athleticism - next to Saintel, probably the 2nd most athletic guy on team currently.  However, he needs to slow the game down, be a lot more prudent and judicious in his decision making, and as you state, harness that athleticism.  He is out of control currently more than he is in control.  Looking forward to seeing this Latimer kid.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: guest282 on February 22, 2018, 01:11:43 pm
We can only hope at this point that a decent big for the AE is on the radar .  Ochefu is 6'8 and Christi is 7 ft. need a 6'10 type in there to balance things .  Someone who is defensively minded but could give us 10-12 points in a game.

I thought Almonacy wouldn't be on the team after last year. I believe it to be even more likely now with Cornish, McKenzie and (probably) Long back, and with Ceesay and Latimer on their way.

Any movement would open up a much needed roster spot.

Are Ceesay and Latimer considered to be point guard material?   Neither Cornish or McKenzie are starting point material, IMO.

I think McKenzie could be a solid starting PG and is already showing signs as a freshman. I suspect his outside shot will get there. In general, I think overall the team will take a step forward next year and even Boals is learning.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on February 22, 2018, 01:13:05 pm
We can only hope at this point that a decent big for the AE is on the radar .  Ochefu is 6'8 and Christi is 7 ft. need a 6'10 type in there to balance things .  Someone who is defensively minded but could give us 10-12 points in a game.

I thought Almonacy wouldn't be on the team after last year. I believe it to be even more likely now with Cornish, McKenzie and (probably) Long back, and with Ceesay and Latimer on their way.

Any movement would open up a much needed roster spot.

Are Ceesay and Latimer considered to be point guard material?   Neither Cornish or McKenzie are starting point material, IMO.

I think McKenzie could be a solid starting PG and is already showing signs as a freshman. I suspect his outside shot will get there. In general, I think overall the team will take a step forward next year and even Boals is learning.

I just dont see that with McKenzie. How many points did he have yesterday? I feel like he doesnt belong in Div1..Div 2 or 3 yes..
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on February 22, 2018, 01:17:03 pm

I just dont see that with McKenzie. How many points did he have yesterday? I feel like he doesnt belong in Div1..Div 2 or 3 yes..

He had 6 assists in 22 minutes yesterday. He just needs to work on his three ball, and he will have a very solid career at Stony Brook.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on February 22, 2018, 01:34:13 pm
Cornish is a stud if he could harness his athleticism. He will get a lot better over the summer, I wouldn't count him out. Latimer can help some with Bball handling duties.

Don't disagree with his athleticism - next to Saintel, probably the 2nd most athletic guy on team currently.  However, he needs to slow the game down, be a lot more prudent and judicious in his decision making, and as you state, harness that athleticism.  He is out of control currently more than he is in control.  Looking forward to seeing this Latimer kid.
I think you're absolutely right, hopefully he improves over the summer. Some guys make a big jump over the summer. Hope he's one of them.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on February 22, 2018, 02:54:46 pm
A lot of good discussion and analysis here.  And you guys certainly seem to know what you're talking about. 

So, let me ask you this.  What has diminished Almonacy and Garcia so dramatically in Coach B's mind?  Neither one of them even gets to take off his warmup jersey any more!   Almonacy was certainly a stud out of high school, and even broke Kuphak's school record!!  There was every expectation he would be Woodhouse's heir-apparent.  What the hell happened?  And, from my observations, Garcia should be a real asset, and has a good Div I body.  I think he would be great at this level!!

Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on February 22, 2018, 03:01:56 pm
A lot of good discussion and analysis here.  And you guys certainly seem to know what you're talking about. 

So, let me ask you this.  What has diminished Almonacy and Garcia so dramatically in Coach B's mind?  Neither one of them even gets to take off his warmup jersey any more!   Almonacy was certainly a stud out of high school, and even broke Kuphak's school record!!  There was every expectation he would be Woodhouse's heir-apparent.  What the hell happened?  And, from my observations, Garcia should be a real asset, and has a good Div I body.  I think he would be great at this level!!

Your guess is as good as mine, gold with Almonacy. As far as Garcia not seeing the floor very often is understandable. He is a raw as an onion. Hopefully next year he improves..
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: OldSeawolf on February 22, 2018, 03:13:49 pm
A lot of good discussion and analysis here.  And you guys certainly seem to know what you're talking about. 

So, let me ask you this.  What has diminished Almonacy and Garcia so dramatically in Coach B's mind?  Neither one of them even gets to take off his warmup jersey any more!   Almonacy was certainly a stud out of high school, and even broke Kuphak's school record!!  There was every expectation he would be Woodhouse's heir-apparent.  What the hell happened?  And, from my observations, Garcia should be a real asset, and has a good Div I body.  I think he would be great at this level!!

Great question, re:Almonacy.  For the life of me, I cannot understand Boals' decision not to play him.  Maybe there's a problem between them.  Almonacy is always supportive on the bench, and yesterday was the first time that I actually saw disappointment in his face, when the teams were shaking hands after the game.  If there was a game to use him, yesterday's game at UMBC was the game.  The turnover barrage in the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half at point (Cornish, McKenzie, and UC) was horrendous - and they could have used a ball control person at that point.   I am as bewildered as you.

Garcia has not shown me anything.  Every time he was in he was either dropping passes or taking wild, forced shots.  For a guy whose nickname is "buckets", I have not been impressed.   Maybe he was trying to hard, trying to make up for lost time, and maybe a summer camp is what he needs to be ready for next year.

Or maybe Boals just has a really short leash for guys he didn't recruit himself.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on February 22, 2018, 08:32:40 pm
We can only hope at this point that a decent big for the AE is on the radar .  Ochefu is 6'8 and Christi is 7 ft. need a 6'10 type in there to balance things .  Someone who is defensively minded but could give us 10-12 points in a game.

I thought Almonacy wouldn't be on the team after last year. I believe it to be even more likely now with Cornish, McKenzie and (probably) Long back, and with Ceesay and Latimer on their way.

Any movement would open up a much needed roster spot.

Are Ceesay and Latimer considered to be point guard material?   Neither Cornish or McKenzie are starting point material, IMO.

I think McKenzie could be a solid starting PG and is already showing signs as a freshman. I suspect his outside shot will get there. In general, I think overall the team will take a step forward next year and even Boals is learning.

I just dont see that with McKenzie. How many points did he have yesterday? I feel like he doesnt belong in Div1..Div 2 or 3 yes..

This board has a few people who cite point totals when talking about point guards. Very puzzling. They can't be a total zero in terms of their offensive ability, but if they lead the offense and take care of the ball, I'm fine with them putting up a bagel. Mac showed some more aggressiveness in the last couple games, which is much needed. He was timid the first half of the season. His issue now is his perimeter shot and staying on the floor.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on February 22, 2018, 08:42:38 pm
A lot of good discussion and analysis here.  And you guys certainly seem to know what you're talking about. 

So, let me ask you this.  What has diminished Almonacy and Garcia so dramatically in Coach B's mind?  Neither one of them even gets to take off his warmup jersey any more!   Almonacy was certainly a stud out of high school, and even broke Kuphak's school record!!  There was every expectation he would be Woodhouse's heir-apparent.  What the hell happened?  And, from my observations, Garcia should be a real asset, and has a good Div I body.  I think he would be great at this level!!

Great question, re:Almonacy.  For the life of me, I cannot understand Boals' decision not to play him.  Maybe there's a problem between them.  Almonacy is always supportive on the bench, and yesterday was the first time that I actually saw disappointment in his face, when the teams were shaking hands after the game.  If there was a game to use him, yesterday's game at UMBC was the game.  The turnover barrage in the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half at point (Cornish, McKenzie, and UC) was horrendous - and they could have used a ball control person at that point.   I am as bewildered as you.

Garcia has not shown me anything.  Every time he was in he was either dropping passes or taking wild, forced shots.  For a guy whose nickname is "buckets", I have not been impressed.   Maybe he was trying to hard, trying to make up for lost time, and maybe a summer camp is what he needs to be ready for next year.

Or maybe Boals just has a really short leash for guys he didn't recruit himself.

I'm surprised that Almonacy hasn't seen the floor whatsoever, but I just think it comes down to him being a tweener. He's not a good enough distributor to play the 1 and he's too small to play the 2, particularly on the defensive end. UC isn't really the prototypical 2, but he's more built, more aggressive going to the goal and is tough on D. I like Mike as a spot-up shooter but don't see him as much more than that at this level. As for your comment on him being disappointed, I think the word is disinterested. He just looks disinterested. There's no fire at all.

Agree on Garcia to this point, particularly in year two under Boals. And in his first game, I thought maybe he was a third or fourth scorer for conference play. With he and Mike, I thought maybe Boals was giving him an extended break like he did McKenzie midseason, but now I'd be surprised if we saw him the rest of the way. I'll give Garcia a longer leash.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: guest282 on February 22, 2018, 11:00:34 pm
A lot of good discussion and analysis here.  And you guys certainly seem to know what you're talking about. 

So, let me ask you this.  What has diminished Almonacy and Garcia so dramatically in Coach B's mind?  Neither one of them even gets to take off his warmup jersey any more!   Almonacy was certainly a stud out of high school, and even broke Kuphak's school record!!  There was every expectation he would be Woodhouse's heir-apparent.  What the hell happened?  And, from my observations, Garcia should be a real asset, and has a good Div I body.  I think he would be great at this level!!

Great question, re:Almonacy.  For the life of me, I cannot understand Boals' decision not to play him.  Maybe there's a problem between them.  Almonacy is always supportive on the bench, and yesterday was the first time that I actually saw disappointment in his face, when the teams were shaking hands after the game.  If there was a game to use him, yesterday's game at UMBC was the game.  The turnover barrage in the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half at point (Cornish, McKenzie, and UC) was horrendous - and they could have used a ball control person at that point.   I am as bewildered as you.

Garcia has not shown me anything.  Every time he was in he was either dropping passes or taking wild, forced shots.  For a guy whose nickname is "buckets", I have not been impressed.   Maybe he was trying to hard, trying to make up for lost time, and maybe a summer camp is what he needs to be ready for next year.

Or maybe Boals just has a really short leash for guys he didn't recruit himself.

I'm surprised that Almonacy hasn't seen the floor whatsoever, but I just think it comes down to him being a tweener. He's not a good enough distributor to play the 1 and he's too small to play the 2, particularly on the defensive end. UC isn't really the prototypical 2, but he's more built, more aggressive going to the goal and is tough on D. I like Mike as a spot-up shooter but don't see him as much more than that at this level. As for your comment on him being disappointed, I think the word is disinterested. He just looks disinterested. There's no fire at all.

Agree on Garcia to this point, particularly in year two under Boals. And in his first game, I thought maybe he was a third or fourth scorer for conference play. With he and Mike, I thought maybe Boals was giving him an extended break like he did McKenzie midseason, but now I'd be surprised if we saw him the rest of the way. I'll give Garcia a longer leash.

I would like to have seen more of Garcia. I though he looked pretty good in the Albany game (8 pts?) and then he disappeared to the bench. But in fairness to Boals, who do you sit? The only person I could think of is Sekunda, but he's a solid defender who helps spread the floor on offense and I keep hoping he will have a lights out game from three. Maybe he's saving it for the tournament.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on February 26, 2018, 10:12:20 am
weve got an offer out to carlos dotson, a juco center from the anderson / college of central florida. https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/carlos-dotson
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on February 26, 2018, 10:16:55 am
http://www.cfpatriots.net/sports/mbkb/2017-18/bios/dotson_carlos_bxh9

http://www.autrojans.com/sports/mbkb/2016-17/bios/dotson_carlos_wryl

nagging ankle injury and redshirt: http://www.jucorecruiting.com/news_article/show/806479

Quote
Dotson: Scoring with my back to the basket is my biggest strength.  I have multiple moves that I can go to in the post and confident around the basket. I also do a good job of rebounding the basket on both ends.



https://www.hudl.com/video/3/2192677/5721be250c5e68122491a5e4
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on February 26, 2018, 10:18:08 am
 He seems a little small at 6'7 to play center.   I would have hoped for 6'8 or little larger but if he can score nd rebound we can take him .
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on February 26, 2018, 10:20:38 am
that's what im thinking too- at this point, with our hopes resting on ochefu and christie, we simply need more bigs.  even if an inch or two short, if he can play with his back to the hoop (in the AE!) he'll find success and provide us some much needed muscle.  also for whatever it's worth he's heavier than warney, so his 6'7'' may play more like a 6'8'' or 6'9''.  maybe.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on February 26, 2018, 11:00:33 am
I don't like going to the well too often with jucos, but we're going to be very young and thin inside next year. That Dotson is averaging 13 and 8 at a good juco is encouraging. Not a shot blocker, NOT a free throw shooter, but he looks to have pretty good agility and some polish on the offensive end. I'll bet he'd become a crowd favorite.

He's retweeting the news about our offer, so that's a positive. He also seems like a religious kid, which we'll take also.

Video on him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK5APaWCtCI
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on February 26, 2018, 12:39:04 pm
thanks- i like that he uses his body in the post.  he creates separation and it gets him room for a putback.  we should get him.  he's not afraid to play physical.

PS i think he's a lefty and there's value in that, especially for a big
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Moveitfred on February 26, 2018, 02:56:31 pm
thanks- i like that he uses his body in the post.  he creates separation and it gets him room for a putback.  we should get him.  he's not afraid to play physical.

PS i think he's a lefty and there's value in that, especially for a big

Just as long as he didn't get the memo that 6'7" dudes at SBU get to shoot as many 3's as they want...   :)
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on February 26, 2018, 11:59:18 pm
Dotson would be a good get. Kid has a huge chip on his shoulder also. Was looked over by D1's and went D2 outta HS. He's put his work at the D2 level and Juco level(High level Juco)now looking to impact the D1 level. Which he will. Knowing why a kid plays and what they are playing for is a big part of evaluating a guy for me. A kid with that kind of backstory and drive WON'T LOSE.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on February 27, 2018, 10:20:44 am
Motivation on and off the court can be huge .  Warney  was like  that . Sometimes he started off slow then took off as the game progressed always  looking ahead.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on February 27, 2018, 10:28:56 am
i remember after bad plays/fouls, warney would get in someone's face.  even mcgrew, puriefoy, etc.  while some might see that as rude, it was leadership.  and we all know- you cant attain leadership without backing it up on the court.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on February 28, 2018, 01:09:01 pm
Stony Brook visited Otchere yesterday https://twitter.com/Sean__Bock/status/968306369085485056

I'm still holding out hope..
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on February 28, 2018, 04:26:55 pm
If we  get this kid it would be earth shattering for our program .  Add into the mix with some of the freshmen we have coming in  e could be on the map for the NCAA next spring .
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 01, 2018, 05:15:44 am
Latimer is already the best commitment in the AE. If Otchere becomes a seawolf, it's the best recruiting class in the conference by a nice margin.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on March 01, 2018, 05:52:40 am
Latimer is already the best commitment in the AE. If Otchere becomes a seawolf, it's the best recruiting class in the conference by a nice margin.

I just watched Otchere video. If Boals actually lands this stud he would probably go down as the best recruit the AE has ever seen..

http://verbalcommits.com/players/jeffrey-otchere
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on March 01, 2018, 05:56:46 am
Latimer is already the best commitment in the AE. If Otchere becomes a seawolf, it's the best recruiting class in the conference by a nice margin.

50% FT shooter. Cant expect much better than that from a big

http://www.gobroncbusters.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/bios/otchere_jeff_19o3?view=gamelog&pos=sh
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 01, 2018, 08:26:40 am
Latimer is already the best commitment in the AE. If Otchere becomes a seawolf, it's the best recruiting class in the conference by a nice margin.

I just watched Otchere video. If Boals actually lands this stud he would probably go down as the best recruit the AE has ever seen..

http://verbalcommits.com/players/jeffrey-otchere

There aren't a lot of huge mid-majors on this list here, but overall quite a bit of competition.  I don't think our current year's record helps us in terms of landing him.  If we could somehow pull a rabbit out of the hat, and get to the AE Championship game, this might help.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 01, 2018, 09:33:22 am
Latimer is already the best commitment in the AE. If Otchere becomes a seawolf, it's the best recruiting class in the conference by a nice margin.

50% FT shooter. Cant expect much better than that from a big

http://www.gobroncbusters.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/bios/otchere_jeff_19o3?view=gamelog&pos=sh
When you look a little deeper at the Stat breakdown the kid shot a lot better at the line during second semester of school than first semester. Over 10% better.  Points to in season improvement.
Checked out block stats and he finished with the most total blocks nationally.
Almost 4 blocks per game in 14.5 minutes per game. Coaches would kill for that kind of rim protection.
Fouls seem to hinder him for right now! 

I think Boals and the staff are smart enough to know when they are gonna miss on a kid and pull back on recruiting them and wasting resources. Frankie Pollicelli is an example of that.
If it's this late and SBU is flying all the way to Kansas for this kid then I'd think there is something there.
When a kid has 20 plus offers he picks and chooses who he wants to have dialogue and engage with.
Regardless of New Mexico State,Washington State,Utah State,Portland and schools like that being involved, SBU's staff visiting him this late is a really good sign.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 01, 2018, 09:37:22 am
Latimer is already the best commitment in the AE. If Otchere becomes a seawolf, it's the best recruiting class in the conference by a nice margin.

I just watched Otchere video. If Boals actually lands this stud he would probably go down as the best recruit the AE has ever seen..

http://verbalcommits.com/players/jeffrey-otchere
I think is Boals lands him that he'll have a chance to be AE's best shot blocker ever.

Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on March 01, 2018, 10:00:51 am
Latimer is already the best commitment in the AE. If Otchere becomes a seawolf, it's the best recruiting class in the conference by a nice margin.

50% FT shooter. Cant expect much better than that from a big

http://www.gobroncbusters.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/bios/otchere_jeff_19o3?view=gamelog&pos=sh
When you look a little deeper at the Stat breakdown the kid shot a lot better at the line during second semester of school than first semester. Over 10% better.  Points to in season improvement.
Checked out block stats and he finished with the most total blocks nationally.
Almost 4 blocks per game in 14.5 minutes per game. Coaches would kill for that kind of rim protection.
Fouls seem to hinder him for right now! 

I think Boals and the staff are smart enough to know when they are gonna miss on a kid and pull back on recruiting them and wasting resources. Frankie Pollicelli is an example of that.
If it's this late and SBU is flying all the way to Kansas for this kid then I'd think there is something there.
When a kid has 20 plus offers he picks and chooses who he wants to have dialogue and engage with.
Regardless of New Mexico State,Washington State,Utah State,Portland and schools like that being involved, SBU's staff visiting him this late is a really good sign.

Man.. All we can do is hope he decides to come to SB to further his education. Is there a deadline for his recruiting. How much time do we have to land him.

Thanks for all your insights..
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 01, 2018, 11:52:49 am
Latimer is already the best commitment in the AE. If Otchere becomes a seawolf, it's the best recruiting class in the conference by a nice margin.

50% FT shooter. Cant expect much better than that from a big

http://www.gobroncbusters.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/bios/otchere_jeff_19o3?view=gamelog&pos=sh
When you look a little deeper at the Stat breakdown the kid shot a lot better at the line during second semester of school than first semester. Over 10% better.  Points to in season improvement.
Checked out block stats and he finished with the most total blocks nationally.
Almost 4 blocks per game in 14.5 minutes per game. Coaches would kill for that kind of rim protection.
Fouls seem to hinder him for right now! 

I think Boals and the staff are smart enough to know when they are gonna miss on a kid and pull back on recruiting them and wasting resources. Frankie Pollicelli is an example of that.
If it's this late and SBU is flying all the way to Kansas for this kid then I'd think there is something there.
When a kid has 20 plus offers he picks and chooses who he wants to have dialogue and engage with.
Regardless of New Mexico State,Washington State,Utah State,Portland and schools like that being involved, SBU's staff visiting him this late is a really good sign.

Man.. All we can do is hope he decides to come to SB to further his education. Is there a deadline for his recruiting. How much time do we have to land him.

Thanks for all your insights..
I'm right with you.

"As of now, Otchere hasnít trimmed his list and is keeping his options open. In March, heíll try and cut it down to five schools and is looking to make a decision in April or May. Otchere will have three years of eligibility left when he enrolls in a division one program in the fall."

That was from that Zagsblog article posted in here not to long ago.
Link: http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/02/18/2018-juco-center-jeffrey-otchere-talks-recruiting-development/

This month would be great with a run at the AE title and SB being in Otchere's final 5
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on March 01, 2018, 03:33:32 pm
Latimer is already the best commitment in the AE. If Otchere becomes a seawolf, it's the best recruiting class in the conference by a nice margin.

50% FT shooter. Cant expect much better than that from a big

http://www.gobroncbusters.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/bios/otchere_jeff_19o3?view=gamelog&pos=sh
When you look a little deeper at the Stat breakdown the kid shot a lot better at the line during second semester of school than first semester. Over 10% better.  Points to in season improvement.
Checked out block stats and he finished with the most total blocks nationally.
Almost 4 blocks per game in 14.5 minutes per game. Coaches would kill for that kind of rim protection.
Fouls seem to hinder him for right now! 

I think Boals and the staff are smart enough to know when they are gonna miss on a kid and pull back on recruiting them and wasting resources. Frankie Pollicelli is an example of that.
If it's this late and SBU is flying all the way to Kansas for this kid then I'd think there is something there.
When a kid has 20 plus offers he picks and chooses who he wants to have dialogue and engage with.
Regardless of New Mexico State,Washington State,Utah State,Portland and schools like that being involved, SBU's staff visiting him this late is a really good sign.

Man.. All we can do is hope he decides to come to SB to further his education. Is there a deadline for his recruiting. How much time do we have to land him.

Thanks for all your insights..
I'm right with you.

"As of now, Otchere hasnít trimmed his list and is keeping his options open. In March, heíll try and cut it down to five schools and is looking to make a decision in April or May. Otchere will have three years of eligibility left when he enrolls in a division one program in the fall."

That was from that Zagsblog article posted in here not to long ago.
Link: http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/02/18/2018-juco-center-jeffrey-otchere-talks-recruiting-development/

This month would be great with a run at the AE title and SB being in Otchere's final 5

Sounds like if he doesnt get an offer from a high major and only mid major offers, Otchere likes Fordham.. Or Wichita State.. Cant blame him one bit going out West!!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on March 01, 2018, 03:43:55 pm
I'm right with you.

"As of now, Otchere hasnít trimmed his list and is keeping his options open. In March, heíll try and cut it down to five schools and is looking to make a decision in April or May. Otchere will have three years of eligibility left when he enrolls in a division one program in the fall."

That was from that Zagsblog article posted in here not to long ago.
Link: http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/02/18/2018-juco-center-jeffrey-otchere-talks-recruiting-development/

This month would be great with a run at the AE title and SB being in Otchere's final 5

Sounds like if he doesnt get an offer from a high major and only mid major offers, Otchere likes Fordham.. Or Wichita State.. Cant blame him one bit going out West!!

Zags Blog has a new york city focus and probably asked about Fordham since it's in the Bronx. I think the big takeaway is that he wants to make an impact and play right away, which we can offer with the graduation of Petrus and Sturdivant leaving a big void down low. Boals can also talk up his experience coaching NBA players Evan Turner, D'angelo Russell, and Jared Sullinger while at Ohio State. I'm not confident we can land him, but it seems within reason.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on March 01, 2018, 03:58:26 pm
Sounds like if he doesnt get an offer from a high major and only mid major offers, Otchere likes Fordham.. Or Wichita State.. Cant blame him one bit going out West!!


  A couple of points:  1st, I think you intended to cite Otchere's interest in Washington State (not Wichita State).  2nd, and certainly far more interesting, is the apparent fact that neither Fordham nor Washington State have any open scholarship slots left for this coming season.  So, in either case, a current player would have to leave to create an opening.

Just for the record, although I certainly agree that Otchere would be an excellent get, I could certainly live with attracting either Carlos Dotson, Eli Abaev or Alanzo Frink.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on March 01, 2018, 04:12:31 pm
Sounds like if he doesnt get an offer from a high major and only mid major offers, Otchere likes Fordham.. Or Wichita State.. Cant blame him one bit going out West!!


  A couple of points:  1st, I think you intended to cite Otchere's interest in Washington State (not Wichita State).  2nd, and certainly far more interesting, is the apparent fact that neither Fordham nor Washington State have any open scholarship slots left for this coming season.  So, in either case, a current player would have to leave to create an opening.

Just for the record, although I certainly agree that Otchere would be an excellent get, I could certainly live with attracting either Carlos Dotson, Eli Abaev or Alanzo Frink.

No, I stand corrected.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/02/18/2018-juco-center-jeffrey-otchere-talks-recruiting-development/
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 01, 2018, 07:18:09 pm
I'm right with you.

"As of now, Otchere hasnít trimmed his list and is keeping his options open. In March, heíll try and cut it down to five schools and is looking to make a decision in April or May. Otchere will have three years of eligibility left when he enrolls in a division one program in the fall."

That was from that Zagsblog article posted in here not to long ago.
Link: http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/02/18/2018-juco-center-jeffrey-otchere-talks-recruiting-development/

This month would be great with a run at the AE title and SB being in Otchere's final 5

Sounds like if he doesnt get an offer from a high major and only mid major offers, Otchere likes Fordham.. Or Wichita State.. Cant blame him one bit going out West!!

Zags Blog has a new york city focus and probably asked about Fordham since it's in the Bronx. I think the big takeaway is that he wants to make an impact and play right away, which we can offer with the graduation of Petrus and Sturdivant leaving a big void down low. Boals can also talk up his experience coaching NBA players Evan Turner, D'angelo Russell, and Jared Sullinger while at Ohio State. I'm not confident we can land him, but it seems within reason.

The bit about immediate playing time has to be a huuuuuge selling point. He could come in and almost be guaranteed 25-30 minutes a night for the next three years. I wonder why he doesnít see that kind of burn at GCCC.

Maybe foul trouble - eek. 11 minutes in each of the last two games, 5 fouls and 4 fouls. Whatever. Take the good with the bad.

Letís get Jameel on the phone with him. Of the schools who are after him, who has a more decorated big, a freakin USA Basketball POY, like we do with Warney?


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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 01, 2018, 07:33:06 pm
Speaking of Jameel, what is Mark Cubanís problem? Jameel is tearing it up in G and Mavs are going nowhere. Why isnít he playing in Dallas yet?
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Moveitfred on March 01, 2018, 09:34:48 pm
Speaking of Jameel, what is Mark Cubanís problem? Jameel is tearing it up in G and Mavs are going nowhere. Why isnít he playing in Dallas yet?

With these stories circulating about the bottom teams purposefully losing this year, maybe that's exactly the problem...Jameel is too good and might contribute to the Mavs winning games!  :) ???
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on March 02, 2018, 12:30:50 am
Speaking of Jameel, what is Mark Cubanís problem? Jameel is tearing it up in G and Mavs are going nowhere. Why isnít he playing in Dallas yet?

With these stories circulating about the bottom teams purposefully losing this year, maybe that's exactly the problem...Jameel is too good and might contribute to the Mavs winning games!  :) ???

Warney needs to get out of the Maverick affiliate, Texas Legends and move someplace else. He is not under any contract with them and is going nowhere fast.. Look at all the money he lost hanging around the G league, hopping for an invite up.. He should have just gone over to the Asian league, the highest paying international BB league, and if you are really that good the NBA will find you. Warney probably lost close to a Million Dollars already hanging around with the G league, Legends..
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on March 02, 2018, 12:35:16 am
Speaking of Jameel, what is Mark Cubanís problem? Jameel is tearing it up in G and Mavs are going nowhere. Why isnít he playing in Dallas yet?


Because Cuban is a POS, blood, money hungry lier. I really wish he moves on from the G league and go over seas..
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 02, 2018, 05:04:32 am
Speaking of Jameel, what is Mark Cubanís problem? Jameel is tearing it up in G and Mavs are going nowhere. Why isnít he playing in Dallas yet?

With these stories circulating about the bottom teams purposefully losing this year, maybe that's exactly the problem...Jameel is too good and might contribute to the Mavs winning games!  :) ???
Hammertime, your whole statement is so spot on.
Warney has missed out on a BIG BAG chasing the NBA dream
Warney needs to get out of the Maverick affiliate, Texas Legends and move someplace else. He is not under any contract with them and is going nowhere fast.. Look at all the money he lost hanging around the G league, hopping for an invite up.. He should have just gone over to the Asian league, the highest paying international BB league, and if you are really that good the NBA will find you. Warney probably lost close to a Million Dollars already hanging around with the G league, Legends..
Hammertime, you are spot on. Warney has missed out on a Big bag of $$, chasing the NBA dream.
Warney's biggest drawback is that he isn't a Floor spacer nor is he a dynamic pick and roll defender. To get that call up it's not about IF YOU PRODUCE, more about HOW YOU PRODUCE.
Less productive guys are getting call ups but they fit the current NBA game better. 7-10 years ago Warney would of been called up by now
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 02, 2018, 05:24:29 am
I'm right with you.

"As of now, Otchere hasnít trimmed his list and is keeping his options open. In March, heíll try and cut it down to five schools and is looking to make a decision in April or May. Otchere will have three years of eligibility left when he enrolls in a division one program in the fall."

That was from that Zagsblog article posted in here not to long ago.
Link: http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/02/18/2018-juco-center-jeffrey-otchere-talks-recruiting-development/

This month would be great with a run at the AE title and SB being in Otchere's final 5

Sounds like if he doesnt get an offer from a high major and only mid major offers, Otchere likes Fordham.. Or Wichita State.. Cant blame him one bit going out West!!

Zags Blog has a new york city focus and probably asked about Fordham since it's in the Bronx. I think the big takeaway is that he wants to make an impact and play right away, which we can offer with the graduation of Petrus and Sturdivant leaving a big void down low. Boals can also talk up his experience coaching NBA players Evan Turner, D'angelo Russell, and Jared Sullinger while at Ohio State. I'm not confident we can land him, but it seems within reason.

The bit about immediate playing time has to be a huuuuuge selling point. He could come in and almost be guaranteed 25-30 minutes a night for the next three years. I wonder why he doesnít see that kind of burn at GCCC.

Maybe foul trouble - eek. 11 minutes in each of the last two games, 5 fouls and 4 fouls. Whatever. Take the good with the bad.

Letís get Jameel on the phone with him. Of the schools who are after him, who has a more decorated big, a freakin USA Basketball POY, like we do with Warney?


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Juco's not a big mans game. Very guard oriented.
For comparison sake, it's a 6'10 Juco big named Jehthro Tshisumpa Mbiya from San Jacinto Central College. Kid is committed to Mississippi State. His averages were 8.3 PPG and 6.5 RPG in 20 minutes per game. He'also averaged 3.8 blocks per game. Otchere's Scoring and Rebounding averages are slightly under the Mbiya kids averages and his blocks per game average was the same while he played 6 minutes more per game than Otchere and this kid is a transfer from Arizona State who then went Juco for this past season and is now headed to Mississippi State.
Otchere has more Total blocks than Mbiya.
I bring Mbiya into the equation because its an example of how gifted bigs don't get off in juco,but also to say SB is in the running for a kid who is a better defender than Power 5 conference bigs.
Otchere's offense needs to round out and he needs to be more disciplined to not get in foul trouble. I've watched a few Garden City games on YouTube and that's been my conclusion.
Also he has a STUD Freshman big man at his Juco, From New Jersey 6'8 kid averaging 17 and 9. Potent offensive player. Name is Jamir Thomas. Maybe SB lands otchere in 2018 and gets his teammate in 2019. That would be outrageous. Thomas is a better offensive option than Otchere and plays more.  Kid can space the court with shooting and bang inside with a 245 pound frame and nimble feet.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 02, 2018, 07:15:37 am
Otchere's offense is mostly Drop off passes that he turns into explosive dunks or finishes with a power lay up or gets contact to go to the line.8 out of 10 times that's the result he gets on dribble drive and dump off.(Garden City Guards don't dump off enough). On pick and roll he can catch and finish. He dives to hard after setting a screen. His feet are so quick that he can slip a screen faster a defense can call it out which would cause all kinds of havoc with a steady guard handling it. He can also screen and rescreen faster than 99% of bigs due to those cat quick feet. Picture getting screened on your left and before you can turn your head the same guy is screening you on your right, you'll be stuck. And the ball handler you're defending is barreling down the lane while Otchere is rolling to the rim. He's a great vertical spacer in the mold a guy like Jarrett Allen from the Brooklyn Nets. You can Lob it up to him in transition, halfcourt or broken plays. The guards at Garden City have lobbed the ball up to him maybe 5 times all season in the games I've seen. And I've spotted over 20 scenarios where a simple on- line lob would of resulted in 2 points for them. His right hand jump hook on the baseline or going middle is respectable. He seals hard too. His guards give him the ball 3 out of every 10 times he seals his man. I feel his right hand jump hook is reliable enough that I'd give it to him every time he has a guy sealed really well. This jump hook is a catch and go up jump hook or a one dribble then go up Jump hook. He doesn't take a lot of dribbles and seems like he isn't confident in putting the ball on the ground. Lots of room for growth there. With his quickness, if he could face up and put it on the floor, it would be scary. Guys with his foot speed almost exclusively face up. His skill set does not allow him to do so currently. He needs to improve his left hand also. If he goes over his right shoulder he still likes to favor his right hand. Not a good thing. Remember how good warney was going over that right shoulder with his left hand!! Otchere's reach is so high that very few people on any level of basketball would be able to block it. He's taken 2 mid range jumpers in all the games I've watched and no 3's. He shot in the 30's from the line in the first half of the year shot in the 50's from the line the second half of the year. You can visibly see some tweaks in his approach to the free throw line in the second half of his season. That's a great sign. Means the kid took some coaching and implemented it during a season. His offense also includes put backs. I believe of his 5 rebounds per game. 2 were offensive. Let's remember that's at 15 minutes per game. Give him 25 minutes per and that's 4 offensive rebounds he'll get. He converts half of his offensive rebounds.Sometimes in the putback dunk variety. He also offensive rebounds then kicks it out to reset the O. His quick feet once again help him in this department. He doesn't also get inside position but his agility and motor allows him to track the ball when his teammates miss. He'll need to get position then track the ball at the next level but there is something there.
If he free throw production can continue going upward. He may be able to shoot 60% for a season. Whatever tweaks he's been making are bringing results. Which leads me to believe he can become a respectable Mid range jump shooter in the next couple of years. Free throw improvement typically indicates a player can improve as a shooter overall. That's Pretty much Otchere's current offensive game, His offensive upside and why he produces the way he does now.

If Otchere were a Seawolf for the upcoming Albany game tomorrow and played 20 minutes I could see him putting up better numbers than he does in Juco because Boals would make sure he touched the ball more.
He'd run a lob play or 2 for him. He'd get him in pick and rolls diving to the rim, a kid like McKenzie would be looking for him and find him a lot better than his current Juco teammates do.
He'd get 2 rim running buckets off long misses that a guard rebounds. Rim running baskets are automatic for guys that gifted. 2 rim running baskets may be underestimating but not trying to go overboard. He'd get 1 offensive putback. Thats with his ability today just a better surrounding cast and more touches and more playing time.
After a full summer with a college staff there is no telling the kind of impact he'd be able to make from Day 1 if he puts on Red and white.

His defensive acumen speaks for itself. He'd be the best defender in the AE today.
Scary part is Otchere can get better there also. He stands up on the perimeter a lot. Takes bad angles at times, his physical gifts allow him to recover. Times he does sit in a stance even guards have a hard time getting past him.Also he doesn't block shots with his left hand much, if he did he'd stop reaching across himself with his right hand and collecting silly fouls in the process. There is still major upside to his defense and that's his calling card.

If Otchere becomes a Seawolf and continues improving over the summer and becomes less foul prone I could envision a season like this for him as Sophomore:
25 minutes per, 12-14 Points Per, 8 Rebounds Per, 4 blocks Per, 1 steal per
55% FT, 60% FG

Favorite for DPOY in the AE

Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Moveitfred on March 02, 2018, 07:39:40 am
Warney probably lost close to a Million Dollars already hanging around with the G league, Legends..

Yep, from where I sit that's exactly what I think, too. There is obviously a very short window of time these players can make money playing a game, and of course the related possibility of taking care of that money and what it could do for you later in life....

Cannot help but draw the parallel to Coppenwrath, who I thought did exactly the right thing by going overseas right away.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 02, 2018, 07:44:18 am
Wow Ballhard, some excellent analysis here.  Definitely whetting our appetite on this kid.  I sure hope we land him.

Sounds like you might be a scout for a living too.  Keep up the great works with the analysis!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 02, 2018, 07:50:35 am
Warney probably lost close to a Million Dollars already hanging around with the G league, Legends..

Yep, from where I sit that's exactly what I think, too. There is obviously a very short window of time these players can make money playing a game, and of course the related possibility of taking care of that money and what it could do for you later in life....

Cannot help but draw the parallel to Coppenwrath, who I thought did exactly the right thing by going overseas right away.

Yeah, I've said the same with Warney in the past.  Not sure about $ 1 MM forfeited over the last 2 years, but easily $ 300k/year over the last 2.  But even a 10-day contract pales in comparison in what he could make overseas.  I agree with BallHard in what he may be missing, but it looks like he's expanded his game a bit with that 18-20 foot jumper.  He's such a good kid - I hope he's seeing the big picture clearly, as his biological clock is ticking here, and hope he's being given solid advice.  Of course, still holding out hope that Dallas does him a solid and offer him a 10-day before the season ends.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Moveitfred on March 02, 2018, 08:04:12 am

 He'd get him in pick and rolls diving to the rim, a kid like McKenzie would be looking for him and find him a lot better than his current Juco teammates do.


Great point. Depending on if Boals can land a player like this in the next couple of years might be the difference between McKenzie being a forgettable Seawolf vs that guy we won't forget as the (probably non-scoring) quarterback who took us back to the NCAAs.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 02, 2018, 08:40:13 am
Wow Ballhard, some excellent analysis here.  Definitely whetting our appetite on this kid.  I sure hope we land him.

Sounds like you might be a scout for a living too.  Keep up the great works with the analysis!
Haha lol Thanks my man.Wish I were a scout. I coach very very low level AAU. D2- D3 type kids. But I keep up with what's going on with 5 star prospects and so on. Keep up with the draft, Dleague, European and Australian ball( Great hoops down under). Read a lot of Nba writer Evals and have been blessed enough to hold convos and get to know some real heavy hitters on the corporate side of hoops. In my spare time I watch a lot of film. High school,AAU,JUCO,D1,D2,D3,Pro game and women's College. Kind of how I have an Idea why the great Jameel Warney isn't getting his proper acclaim. From what I've gathered it's because he isn't a "switch type" in pick and roll which is 60% of most teams offense. Half of the time you've got to switch in today's NBA. Picture Warney switching onto John Wall, Dame Lillard,Kyrie,Lou Will,Westbrook,Kyle Lowry and so on. Undersized bigs like Trevor Booker don't have that issue. And he does what Warney can do on offense and is more athletic for comparison sake of two 6'7 guys that play in the Front Court. If Warney were a 3 point Threat some NBA team may look past his perimeter defense shortcomings.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 02, 2018, 08:42:31 am
Warney probably lost close to a Million Dollars already hanging around with the G league, Legends..

Yep, from where I sit that's exactly what I think, too. There is obviously a very short window of time these players can make money playing a game, and of course the related possibility of taking care of that money and what it could do for you later in life....

Cannot help but draw the parallel to Coppenwrath, who I thought did exactly the right thing by going overseas right away.
Going Across water is almost always better than playing in the Gleague. Gleaguers get small compensation.Warney would of gotten 200K at minimum coming out of College across water.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on March 02, 2018, 08:51:22 am
Wow Ballhard, some excellent analysis here.  Definitely whetting our appetite on this kid.  I sure hope we land him.

Sounds like you might be a scout for a living too.  Keep up the great works with the analysis!
Haha lol Thanks my man.Wish I were a scout. I coach very very low level AAU. D2- D3 type kids. But I keep up with what's going on with 5 star prospects and so on. Keep up with the draft, Dleague, European and Australian ball( Great hoops down under). Read a lot of Nba writer Evals and have been blessed enough to hold convos and get to know some real heavy hitters on the corporate side of hoops. In my spare time I watch a lot of film. High school,AAU,JUCO,D1,D2,D3,Pro game and women's College. Kind of how I have an Idea why the great Jameel Warney isn't getting his proper acclaim. From what I've gathered it's because he isn't a "switch type" in pick and roll which is 60% of most teams offense. Half of the time you've got to switch in today's NBA. Picture Warney switching onto John Wall, Dame Lillard,Kyrie,Lou Will,Westbrook,Kyle Lowry and so on. Undersized bigs like Trevor Booker don't have that issue. And he does what Warney can do on offense and is more athletic for comparison sake of two 6'7 guys that play in the Front Court. If Warney were a 3 point Threat some NBA team may look past his perimeter defense shortcomings.

Very good observation, Ball. I also see with Warney he is not a fast dribbler. When Warney rebounds the ball he always looks for a guard to take the ball up court. Keep an eye on that.. AS far as his long ball. Warney never attempted a 3 ball at SB and that is why I think he got over looked in the NBA draft.. However, he is making 3 pointers this season. If he can do that on a consistence basis, like you say I think some team might over look a couple of his deficits..
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: ry1nik on March 02, 2018, 08:54:16 am
Warney probably lost close to a Million Dollars already hanging around with the G league, Legends..

Yep, from where I sit that's exactly what I think, too. There is obviously a very short window of time these players can make money playing a game, and of course the related possibility of taking care of that money and what it could do for you later in life....

Cannot help but draw the parallel to Coppenwrath, who I thought did exactly the right thing by going overseas right away.
Going Across water is almost always better than playing in the Gleague. Gleaguers get small compensation.Warney would of gotten 200K at minimum coming out of College across water.
Heís been on the cusp of an NBA slot so itís a case of taking one step back to potentially take two steps forward. He still has a number of good earning years ahead to play in Europe if the NBA door closes.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 02, 2018, 09:19:20 am
Wow Ballhard, some excellent analysis here.  Definitely whetting our appetite on this kid.  I sure hope we land him.

Sounds like you might be a scout for a living too.  Keep up the great works with the analysis!
Haha lol Thanks my man.Wish I were a scout. I coach very very low level AAU. D2- D3 type kids. But I keep up with what's going on with 5 star prospects and so on. Keep up with the draft, Dleague, European and Australian ball( Great hoops down under). Read a lot of Nba writer Evals and have been blessed enough to hold convos and get to know some real heavy hitters on the corporate side of hoops. In my spare time I watch a lot of film. High school,AAU,JUCO,D1,D2,D3,Pro game and women's College. Kind of how I have an Idea why the great Jameel Warney isn't getting his proper acclaim. From what I've gathered it's because he isn't a "switch type" in pick and roll which is 60% of most teams offense. Half of the time you've got to switch in today's NBA. Picture Warney switching onto John Wall, Dame Lillard,Kyrie,Lou Will,Westbrook,Kyle Lowry and so on. Undersized bigs like Trevor Booker don't have that issue. And he does what Warney can do on offense and is more athletic for comparison sake of two 6'7 guys that play in the Front Court. If Warney were a 3 point Threat some NBA team may look past his perimeter defense shortcomings.

Very good observation, Ball. I also see with Warney he is not a fast dribbler. When Warney rebounds the ball he always looks for a guard to take the ball up court. Keep an eye on that.. AS far as his long ball. Warney never attempted a 3 ball at SB and that is why I think he got over looked in the NBA draft.. However, he is making 3 pointers this season. If he can do that on a consistence basis, like you say I think some team might over look a couple of his deficits..
Really good stuff by you as well. I didn't take note of the fact that he doesn't handle the ball at all. Which is another thing NBA teams would want. Yes he has expanded his range. Like you said it will need to be on the consistent basis
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on March 02, 2018, 10:26:40 am
http://texas.gleague.nba.com/news/2017-2018-season-already-big-success-coach-mackinnon/
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on March 02, 2018, 10:37:32 am
http://texas.gleague.nba.com/news/2017-2018-season-already-big-success-coach-mackinnon/

We can only pray he gets that call!!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 02, 2018, 10:39:14 am
http://texas.gleague.nba.com/news/2017-2018-season-already-big-success-coach-mackinnon/

Nice article, thanks for sharing.  Unfortunately, I think the one telling statement in this article reinforces what BallHard has been saying - the fact that there have been 6 call-ups this season before Warney.  I still hold out hope, would love the kid to be given a chance, and realize his dream.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 02, 2018, 10:47:19 am
I'm right with you.

"As of now, Otchere hasnít trimmed his list and is keeping his options open. In March, heíll try and cut it down to five schools and is looking to make a decision in April or May. Otchere will have three years of eligibility left when he enrolls in a division one program in the fall."

That was from that Zagsblog article posted in here not to long ago.
Link: http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/02/18/2018-juco-center-jeffrey-otchere-talks-recruiting-development/

This month would be great with a run at the AE title and SB being in Otchere's final 5

Sounds like if he doesnt get an offer from a high major and only mid major offers, Otchere likes Fordham.. Or Wichita State.. Cant blame him one bit going out West!!

Zags Blog has a new york city focus and probably asked about Fordham since it's in the Bronx. I think the big takeaway is that he wants to make an impact and play right away, which we can offer with the graduation of Petrus and Sturdivant leaving a big void down low. Boals can also talk up his experience coaching NBA players Evan Turner, D'angelo Russell, and Jared Sullinger while at Ohio State. I'm not confident we can land him, but it seems within reason.

The bit about immediate playing time has to be a huuuuuge selling point. He could come in and almost be guaranteed 25-30 minutes a night for the next three years. I wonder why he doesnít see that kind of burn at GCCC.

Maybe foul trouble - eek. 11 minutes in each of the last two games, 5 fouls and 4 fouls. Whatever. Take the good with the bad.

Letís get Jameel on the phone with him. Of the schools who are after him, who has a more decorated big, a freakin USA Basketball POY, like we do with Warney?


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Juco's not a big mans game. Very guard oriented.
For comparison sake, it's a 6'10 Juco big named Jehthro Tshisumpa Mbiya from San Jacinto Central College. Kid is committed to Mississippi State. His averages were 8.3 PPG and 6.5 RPG in 20 minutes per game. He'also averaged 3.8 blocks per game. Otchere's Scoring and Rebounding averages are slightly under the Mbiya kids averages and his blocks per game average was the same while he played 6 minutes more per game than Otchere and this kid is a transfer from Arizona State who then went Juco for this past season and is now headed to Mississippi State.
Otchere has more Total blocks than Mbiya.
I bring Mbiya into the equation because its an example of how gifted bigs don't get off in juco,but also to say SB is in the running for a kid who is a better defender than Power 5 conference bigs.
Otchere's offense needs to round out and he needs to be more disciplined to not get in foul trouble. I've watched a few Garden City games on YouTube and that's been my conclusion.
Also he has a STUD Freshman big man at his Juco, From New Jersey 6'8 kid averaging 17 and 9. Potent offensive player. Name is Jamir Thomas. Maybe SB lands otchere in 2018 and gets his teammate in 2019. That would be outrageous. Thomas is a better offensive option than Otchere and plays more.  Kid can space the court with shooting and bang inside with a 245 pound frame and nimble feet.

I see it with Otchere, but on video, Thomas didn't jump out at this stud like you suggest. His production in HS and now at GCCC is undeniable Ė another double-double last night. Wide body, physical, skilled offensively, but not an explosive athlete nor a big-time defender. He committed to D-II Felician out of HS but ended up at GCCC and has put up big-time numbers. For me, it's hard to tell what that means. GCCC's all-conference guys haven't exactly shown up at premier D-I programs and been stars Ė West Alabama, a deep bench guy at UIC, Rio Grande, etc etc. He's produced everywhere he's gone so maybe he's Cori Spencer.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 02, 2018, 12:24:40 pm
http://texas.gleague.nba.com/news/2017-2018-season-already-big-success-coach-mackinnon/
Great article. I hope Warney's dream comes true.He knocking right on the door
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 02, 2018, 12:48:46 pm
I'm right with you.

"As of now, Otchere hasnít trimmed his list and is keeping his options open. In March, heíll try and cut it down to five schools and is looking to make a decision in April or May. Otchere will have three years of eligibility left when he enrolls in a division one program in the fall."

That was from that Zagsblog article posted in here not to long ago.
Link: http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/02/18/2018-juco-center-jeffrey-otchere-talks-recruiting-development/

This month would be great with a run at the AE title and SB being in Otchere's final 5

Sounds like if he doesnt get an offer from a high major and only mid major offers, Otchere likes Fordham.. Or Wichita State.. Cant blame him one bit going out West!!

Zags Blog has a new york city focus and probably asked about Fordham since it's in the Bronx. I think the big takeaway is that he wants to make an impact and play right away, which we can offer with the graduation of Petrus and Sturdivant leaving a big void down low. Boals can also talk up his experience coaching NBA players Evan Turner, D'angelo Russell, and Jared Sullinger while at Ohio State. I'm not confident we can land him, but it seems within reason.

The bit about immediate playing time has to be a huuuuuge selling point. He could come in and almost be guaranteed 25-30 minutes a night for the next three years. I wonder why he doesnít see that kind of burn at GCCC.

Maybe foul trouble - eek. 11 minutes in each of the last two games, 5 fouls and 4 fouls. Whatever. Take the good with the bad.

Letís get Jameel on the phone with him. Of the schools who are after him, who has a more decorated big, a freakin USA Basketball POY, like we do with Warney?


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Juco's not a big mans game. Very guard oriented.
For comparison sake, it's a 6'10 Juco big named Jehthro Tshisumpa Mbiya from San Jacinto Central College. Kid is committed to Mississippi State. His averages were 8.3 PPG and 6.5 RPG in 20 minutes per game. He'also averaged 3.8 blocks per game. Otchere's Scoring and Rebounding averages are slightly under the Mbiya kids averages and his blocks per game average was the same while he played 6 minutes more per game than Otchere and this kid is a transfer from Arizona State who then went Juco for this past season and is now headed to Mississippi State.
Otchere has more Total blocks than Mbiya.
I bring Mbiya into the equation because its an example of how gifted bigs don't get off in juco,but also to say SB is in the running for a kid who is a better defender than Power 5 conference bigs.
Otchere's offense needs to round out and he needs to be more disciplined to not get in foul trouble. I've watched a few Garden City games on YouTube and that's been my conclusion.
Also he has a STUD Freshman big man at his Juco, From New Jersey 6'8 kid averaging 17 and 9. Potent offensive player. Name is Jamir Thomas. Maybe SB lands otchere in 2018 and gets his teammate in 2019. That would be outrageous. Thomas is a better offensive option than Otchere and plays more.  Kid can space the court with shooting and bang inside with a 245 pound frame and nimble feet.

I see it with Otchere, but on video, Thomas didn't jump out at this stud like you suggest. His production in HS and now at GCCC is undeniable Ė another double-double last night. Wide body, physical, skilled offensively, but not an explosive athlete nor a big-time defender. He committed to D-II Felician out of HS but ended up at GCCC and has put up big-time numbers. For me, it's hard to tell what that means. GCCC's all-conference guys haven't exactly shown up at premier D-I programs and been stars Ė West Alabama, a deep bench guy at UIC, Rio Grande, etc etc. He's produced everywhere he's gone so maybe he's Cori Spencer.
Thomas has been a knucklehead. Academically he wouldn't qualify for D1 but he would for D2 which is why he committed there in high school. He played high level AAU ball in high school with the NJ PLAYAZ and wasn't a bench warmer.  Had he took care of his grades and attitude in high school. We wouldn't be having this discussion. As for former Garden City players production once they go D1 i'd attribute that more to the GCCC program and how they prepare kids for the rigors of D1 ball. But the kids are actually talented. In JUCO the best states are Florida,Texas and Kansas. When a player is putting up numbers in Kansas Juco ball. He can play. 3 of the top 25 ranked Jucos this season are in the same conference Otchere and Thomas compete in. They faced each team twice. Thomas had big outings in 4 of those 6 total games. He put 27 pts and 15 rebs on Hutchinson CC in a competitive game with a final score 68-64. Hutch is one of the top 25 teams and has high majors on their roster every year. His stats are legit.
He isn't an explosive athlete but he's a sneaky athlete.If he trims some he'd be a better athlete.
As you stated he's skilled offensively. Those skills are allowing him to kill legit Juco comp. If his off the court stuff is a thing of the pass he's one to snag.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 02, 2018, 09:00:46 pm
https://youtu.be/LxapHl4O_qk

Some recent footage of Alanzo Frink (among others). Definitely some glimpses but I finished wanting to see more from him. Roselle Catholic is no joke, but still, he looked like about the eighth best player on the floor - just not active enough on the glass or defensively for me. Give me the Omoruyi kid in a couple years though!


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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 03, 2018, 01:07:50 am
https://youtu.be/LxapHl4O_qk

Some recent footage of Alanzo Frink (among others). Definitely some glimpses but I finished wanting to see more from him. Roselle Catholic is no joke, but still, he looked like about the eighth best player on the floor - just not active enough on the glass or defensively for me. Give me the Omoruyi kid in a couple years though!


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You're spot on with your evaluation
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on March 03, 2018, 06:58:37 am
https://youtu.be/LxapHl4O_qk

Some recent footage of Alanzo Frink (among others). Definitely some glimpses but I finished wanting to see more from him. Roselle Catholic is no joke, but still, he looked like about the eighth best player on the floor - just not active enough on the glass or defensively for me. Give me the Omoruyi kid in a couple years though!


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From this game I was not impressed with Alanzo Frink.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 03, 2018, 11:21:11 am
https://youtu.be/LxapHl4O_qk

Some recent footage of Alanzo Frink (among others). Definitely some glimpses but I finished wanting to see more from him. Roselle Catholic is no joke, but still, he looked like about the eighth best player on the floor - just not active enough on the glass or defensively for me. Give me the Omoruyi kid in a couple years though!


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From this game I was not impressed with Alanzo Frink.

Is it me, or was that a Naz Reid highlight reel????
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 03, 2018, 01:57:27 pm
https://youtu.be/LxapHl4O_qk

Some recent footage of Alanzo Frink (among others). Definitely some glimpses but I finished wanting to see more from him. Roselle Catholic is no joke, but still, he looked like about the eighth best player on the floor - just not active enough on the glass or defensively for me. Give me the Omoruyi kid in a couple years though!


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From this game I was not impressed with Alanzo Frink.

Is it me, or was that a Naz Reid highlight reel????
Yes that was the Mcdonalds All American stud
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 07, 2018, 10:55:45 am
Ball, you know anything about this kid Brad Bundschuh from Gill St. Bernard's? I liked what I saw from him Ė good build, good athlete for a big guy, bangs inside, and can step out and shoot it. I know he's out with a concussion but seems like he has some ability.

https://youtu.be/0_amp5pLErw
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 07, 2018, 11:25:22 am
https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/brad-bundschuh
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on March 07, 2018, 11:44:23 am
Looks like a good one.  Big and can shoot inside and out . Like his size at 6'9 and broad .  Good for AE bigs.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on March 07, 2018, 11:55:48 am
Ball, you know anything about this kid Brad Bundschuh from Gill St. Bernard's? I liked what I saw from him Ė good build, good athlete for a big guy, bangs inside, and can step out and shoot it. I know he's out with a concussion but seems like he has some ability.

https://youtu.be/0_amp5pLErw

I dont see where SB offered this kid
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 07, 2018, 12:16:17 pm
Ball, you know anything about this kid Brad Bundschuh from Gill St. Bernard's? I liked what I saw from him Ė good build, good athlete for a big guy, bangs inside, and can step out and shoot it. I know he's out with a concussion but seems like he has some ability.

https://youtu.be/0_amp5pLErw

I dont see where SB offered this kid

They haven't but it doesn't mean they can't. These guys know infinitely more than I do, but he looks like a quality big.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 07, 2018, 02:03:25 pm
Kid looks good.   What a crazy (in a good sense) facility they were play in, huh?
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 08, 2018, 06:03:41 am
Ball, you know anything about this kid Brad Bundschuh from Gill St. Bernard's? I liked what I saw from him Ė good build, good athlete for a big guy, bangs inside, and can step out and shoot it. I know he's out with a concussion but seems like he has some ability.

https://youtu.be/0_amp5pLErw
Checkmate, he's is underrated in my opinion. First thing is he's been well coached. The Gill St.Bernards coach is one of the best in Tri state area. Kid knows what being accountable is all about.
He's High IQ player also, every kid on Gill's team has to have an IQ. Even the water boy and towel boy must have an IQ. Everything you said he is, is accurate and it translates to this level easily. On the defensive end he hasn't completely figured it out but he tries.

Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 08, 2018, 06:09:12 am
Kid looks good.   What a crazy (in a good sense) facility they were play in, huh?
Beautiful place for a day of hoops.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on March 08, 2018, 08:36:37 am
Certainly, everything that's been said about this kid Brad Bundschuh sounds terrific.  So, what's the likely reason that he hasn't received more offers (including from SBU)?
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 08, 2018, 09:48:27 am
Certainly, everything that's been said about this kid Brad Bundschuh sounds terrific.  So, what's the likely reason that he hasn't received more offers (including from SBU)?
I'd think the reason is relationship based. The whole Gill St.Bernard team plays AAU for Sina Basketball Academy. Their HS coach is Mergin Sina. So literally these kids play for the same guy 12 months a year. HS &a AAU. Coach Sina has a HUGE influence on where these kids end up attending college. No school is getting a player that's under Coach Sina's guidance without building a relationship with him and his staff. Recruiting the kid and his parents will only get you but so far because they will lean on Coach Sina for advise when it all boils down.
Having Relationships is the biggest key in recruiting, in my opinion.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 08, 2018, 10:11:58 am
Ball, you know anything about this kid Brad Bundschuh from Gill St. Bernard's? I liked what I saw from him Ė good build, good athlete for a big guy, bangs inside, and can step out and shoot it. I know he's out with a concussion but seems like he has some ability.

https://youtu.be/0_amp5pLErw
Checkmate, he's is underrated in my opinion. First thing is he's been well coached. The Gill St.Bernards coach is one of the best in Tri state area. Kid knows what being accountable is all about.
He's High IQ player also, every kid on Gill's team has to have an IQ. Even the water boy and towel boy must have an IQ. Everything you said he is, is accurate and it translates to this level easily. On the defensive end he hasn't completely figured it out but he tries.

It's tough to get a true feel for what a guy brings to the table with these highlight reels. I'll watch a lot of baseball vids and will see the shortstop throw a seed across the diamond that one time, but what about the ball in the dirt before that and the misplayed grounder afterward? Body language, effort, consistency, that's all stuff you can't make a determination on in a one-minute video. Obvious but I try not to draw too many conclusions. It's all so doctored.

There's definitely some good things to see here with Bundschuh. I like his actions. Like Latimer, with the talent that GSB has, I don't know that they're ever feeding Bundschuh the ball over and over, but he looks competent around the rim and like he's been shooting jumpers all his life. I don't think he's an oaf/project. VC says he has offers from Eastern Kentucky and St. Francis, and I also read that he went on unofficial visits to Lehigh, Marist and Cornell Ė so I think he could hack it here academically.

As I said before, the coaches know much more about the game than I do. They could have seen him a bunch of times and already crossed him off the list. On the surface, from this novice, he looks like a kid who could help out.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 09, 2018, 01:03:22 pm
Otchere has SBU in his final 5 schools of consideration according to this tweet:
https://twitter.com/sean__bock/status/972165533972955136?s=21
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 09, 2018, 01:12:33 pm
Otchere has SBU in his final 5 schools of consideration according to this tweet:
https://twitter.com/sean__bock/status/972165533972955136?s=21

LETíS GOOOOOO.

What an odd assortment of schools.


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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 09, 2018, 01:13:16 pm
Jucorecruiting twitter page just tweeted out the same thing
https://twitter.com/jucorecruiting/status/972168685036195840?s=21
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 09, 2018, 01:17:03 pm
Otchere has SBU in his final 5 schools of consideration according to this tweet:
https://twitter.com/sean__bock/status/972165533972955136?s=21

LETíS GOOOOOO.

What an odd assortment of schools.


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I agree, id like to see if we can get a visit or if he will visit one of the bigger schools in Utah State(Mountain west conf) or Washington State (Pac12) fall in love and commit.
Surprised Iona or New Mexico State isn't in there.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 09, 2018, 01:21:41 pm
yes, an odd collection of schools...

based on nothing other than rosters... he'd have less competition at SB than some others....
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 09, 2018, 02:18:10 pm
yes, an odd collection of schools...

based on nothing other than rosters... he'd have less competition at SB than some others....

The playing time has to be a major factor for us to have a shot. We are in the weakest conference of the lot by far.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on March 09, 2018, 03:36:27 pm
I did a little check re: SBU's completion for this kid and came up with some interesting (and encouraging) data.  This is what I found using info from Verbal Commits, whom I've always found to be reasonably reliable.

-- Utah State: Currently no remaining open scholly slots for next season, so getting Otchere would necessitate someone leaving

-- Washington State: Same as above

-- Youngstown State: Same as Utah State's situation, and already have a 3* Center in that class

-- Fordham: Currently reported as already being oversubscribed by 1 scholly player for next season.  Getting Otchere would require 2 players to leave.

-- What all this means is that the Seawolves are the only one of his candidate schools that is in position totake him on without anyone transferring.  Certainly, no guarantee, but undeniably beneficial.

Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 09, 2018, 03:39:27 pm
It's ALL about playing time.  If he can be "guaranteed" to play a lot in the bigger conferences, we don't have a shot.  Proximity probably will play a secondary role in his decision.   Time for Coach Boals to trap and put on the full court press.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 09, 2018, 03:58:28 pm
could we have better timing???

get him seats behind the dallas bench against NYK/brooklyn so he can see warney in uniform.  then out to campus for a wkd.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on March 09, 2018, 04:40:59 pm
COB brilliant idea !   If  all these teams have a full scholarship rosters already at best he would be a walk on and not interested.  I think Boals  can guarantee him playing time easily since we have no experienced bigs .  Lets see what develop just as long as he doesn't turn into a dud when he gets here.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on March 09, 2018, 05:28:50 pm
I did a little check re: SBU's completion for this kid and came up with some interesting (and encouraging) data.  This is what I found using info from Verbal Commits, whom I've always found to be reasonably reliable.

-- Utah State: Currently no remaining open scholly slots for next season, so getting Otchere would necessitate someone leaving

-- Washington State: Same as above

-- Youngstown State: Same as Utah State's situation, and already have a 3* Center in that class

-- Fordham: Currently reported as already being oversubscribed by 1 scholly player for next season.  Getting Otchere would require 2 players to leave.

-- What all this means is that the Seawolves are the only one of his candidate schools that is in position totake him on without anyone transferring.  Certainly, no guarantee, but undeniably beneficial.



If only we can talk to these kids to see what they are thinking .. Fingers crossed..
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on March 09, 2018, 07:33:01 pm
COB brilliant idea !   If  all these teams have a full scholarship rosters already at best he would be a walk on and not interested.  I think Boals  can guarantee him playing time easily since we have no experienced bigs .  Lets see what develop just as long as he doesn't turn into a dud when he gets here.

From what I can tell, he does have the ability to be a decent scorer, but his real strength is on defense--he's a monster shot blocker and excellent rebounder.  His worst trait--wait for it--he's an absolute abysmal free throw shooter.  Therefore, he certainly would fit in well with Seawolves history.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 09, 2018, 07:57:42 pm
I'd pay less attention to Scholarship availability and look more at the depth at position. Guys like him a coach clears space for. Also coaches anticipate transfers yearly.
None the less judging by the list of 5 and the quotes he gave in that Zagsblog article about "playing time and development" I like the Seawolves chances.
I'm already imagining McKenzie being with the steady hand in pick and roll with Otchere.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on March 09, 2018, 08:07:08 pm
With all due respect  Warney wasn't much in his first year  either certainly not NBA caliber for sure. . He developed over time , lost weight improved his shooting and the rest is history . I just hope this kid shows up . Feed him under the basket, let him rebound and block shots just intimidate everyone. 
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on March 10, 2018, 05:36:55 am
COB brilliant idea !   If  all these teams have a full scholarship rosters already at best he would be a walk on and not interested.  I think Boals  can guarantee him playing time easily since we have no experienced bigs .  Lets see what develop just as long as he doesn't turn into a dud when he gets here.

From what I can tell, he does have the ability to be a decent scorer, but his real strength is on defense--he's a monster shot blocker and excellent rebounder.  His worst trait--wait for it--he's an absolute abysmal free throw shooter.  Therefore, he certainly would fit in well with Seawolves history.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) So true..
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on March 10, 2018, 04:32:39 pm
Just catching up on this. Great news and great timing with respect to Warney's call up. Stony Brook may be a mid-major but you can still get the NBA from here.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 19, 2018, 12:15:36 am
It's unlikely but not impossible to see us vying for a Pitt transfer. Nine of them have asked for their release. http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22811223/jared-wilson-frame-pittsburgh-panthers-top-scorer-granted-release
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on March 20, 2018, 08:18:51 pm
Can't find much regarding his current recruiting, but I would to see Boals and co. land Nick Alikakos, a former Navy commit doing a post grad year at the hill school. Boals, Weber, and Goldstein are all following him on twitter so i assume we're involved. Looks like a solid stretch four that can give the team some size and stretch the floor. Get him and Otchere and we're cooking with gas for 18-19!

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/3518344/5a3f1aed90eeb30ae4313dfe
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 20, 2018, 09:15:21 pm
Looks like Alanzo Frink from Roselle Catholic picked up a few high major offers. Iíll bet that rules us out, which Iím not that upset about.

In other news, Aaron Calixte is leaving Maine to do a grad year elsewhere. We aren't likely in the conversation, but at least don't have to deal with him. Good player.

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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 21, 2018, 02:46:37 pm
Frink is getting recruited way above his actual level
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 21, 2018, 06:36:12 pm
Frink is getting recruited way above his actual level

At least on video, he looks like one of those guys who looks really good in a uniform. Didnít do it for me otherwise though.


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Title: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 24, 2018, 09:22:29 am
Hereís to it being everything heís looking for! Itís times like this when you love having the new arena.

https://twitter.com/sean__bock/status/977535045434003456?s=21

With the whole team having left, I wonder if Pitt is in play for him.

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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 24, 2018, 11:46:52 am
Word on the street is Hurley is going to go after him. Maybe he likes SBU so much that he Commits few days after the visit.
If he doesn't commit soon and goes to visit Washington State and Uconn gets involved as a anticipated then forget about it.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on March 24, 2018, 12:18:56 pm
This kid is probably a very longshot for us. But who knows maybe he wants to be a big fish in a small pond.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 24, 2018, 12:43:04 pm
Otchere was named defensive player of the year in his conference and led the country in blocks according to this tweet  https://twitter.com/sean__bock/status/977583282547253249?s=21
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on March 24, 2018, 01:53:22 pm
Otchere was named defensive player of the year in his conference and led the country in blocks according to this tweet  https://twitter.com/sean__bock/status/977583282547253249?s=21

Do we have a reasonable shot at getting this kid
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on March 24, 2018, 01:59:16 pm
I hope the staff can work some magic this weekend!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 24, 2018, 03:37:43 pm
This is a huge test on Coach Boals' ability to recruit big fish.  Get him Jeff!  New arena, alumnus just made NBA, UMBC beat # 1, Ohio St Top assistant, etc, etc, etc.  The deck is about as stacked as it could be right now.  I agree, push the big fish in a small pond angle all the way, in addition to the above. 

This was Pikiell's mgmt team strength, which clearly overshadowed his X's and O's, but in the big picture, it is his recruiting that got us on the map.  This is a defining moment for Coach Boals, IMO.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 24, 2018, 03:45:06 pm
Otchere was named defensive player of the year in his conference and led the country in blocks according to this tweet  https://twitter.com/sean__bock/status/977583282547253249?s=21

Do we have a reasonable shot at getting this kid

If we are on his short list and heís making an official visit this weekend - after someplace else - Iíd say we do.


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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on March 24, 2018, 04:05:38 pm
Old Seawolf I agree land this kid  along with Lattimore already signed and we have some decent talent coming in .  Still have one more scholarship to give but  get this kid to say yes first.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 24, 2018, 04:30:41 pm
This is a huge test on Coach Boals' ability to recruit big fish.  Get him Jeff!  New arena, alumnus just made NBA, UMBC beat # 1, Ohio St Top assistant, etc, etc, etc.  The deck is about as stacked as it could be right now.  I agree, push the big fish in a small pond angle all the way, in addition to the above. 

This was Pikiell's mgmt team strength, which clearly overshadowed his X's and O's, but in the big picture, it is his recruiting that got us on the map.  This is a defining moment for Coach Boals, IMO.
Could not of said that any better
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 24, 2018, 04:32:49 pm
Old Seawolf I agree land this kid  along with Lattimore already signed and we have some decent talent coming in .  Still have one more scholarship to give but  get this kid to say yes first.
Lattimer is already the best recruit in the AE, Seawolves get Otchere then we may be talking best class in the AE
in the last 5 years
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on March 26, 2018, 04:46:35 pm
I've been checking twitter and this page frantically hoping to see some news on Otchere. At what point do he's passing on SBU and going elsewhere?
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 26, 2018, 06:59:57 pm
Can't find much regarding his current recruiting, but I would to see Boals and co. land Nick Alikakos, a former Navy commit doing a post grad year at the hill school. Boals, Weber, and Goldstein are all following him on twitter so i assume we're involved. Looks like a solid stretch four that can give the team some size and stretch the floor. Get him and Otchere and we're cooking with gas for 18-19!

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/3518344/5a3f1aed90eeb30ae4313dfe
Totally overlooked this post. Whoa that kid looks good. Only watched A minute of film and his offensive skill set jumps out immediately. He's a decent athlete, with mobility. Has court vision with size. Ability to put it on the deck a little and hit 3's
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on March 26, 2018, 07:33:34 pm
I have heard his name before.  He would be a keeper t 6'8 shooting 3s like that . Can only wait and see what these kids decide .
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 27, 2018, 12:34:05 am
Can't find much regarding his current recruiting, but I would to see Boals and co. land Nick Alikakos, a former Navy commit doing a post grad year at the hill school. Boals, Weber, and Goldstein are all following him on twitter so i assume we're involved. Looks like a solid stretch four that can give the team some size and stretch the floor. Get him and Otchere and we're cooking with gas for 18-19!

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/3518344/5a3f1aed90eeb30ae4313dfe
Totally overlooked this post. Whoa that kid looks good. Only watched A minute of film and his offensive skill set jumps out immediately. He's a decent athlete, with mobility. Has court vision with size. Ability to put it on the deck a little and hit 3's

And he works out with Ochefu. https://twitter.com/ballbeyond/status/974026047309144064?s=21

I like him less than you guys do but I think heíd be a solid add. Love the energy and handle for a big guy. However, I worry about the jumper with the awkward release, and I didnít see much in that video with his back to the basket (or at all defensively).


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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 27, 2018, 04:21:32 am
Can't find much regarding his current recruiting, but I would to see Boals and co. land Nick Alikakos, a former Navy commit doing a post grad year at the hill school. Boals, Weber, and Goldstein are all following him on twitter so i assume we're involved. Looks like a solid stretch four that can give the team some size and stretch the floor. Get him and Otchere and we're cooking with gas for 18-19!

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/3518344/5a3f1aed90eeb30ae4313dfe
Totally overlooked this post. Whoa that kid looks good. Only watched A minute of film and his offensive skill set jumps out immediately. He's a decent athlete, with mobility. Has court vision with size. Ability to put it on the deck a little and hit 3's

And he works out with Ochefu. https://twitter.com/ballbeyond/status/974026047309144064?s=21

I like him less than you guys do but I think heíd be a solid add. Love the energy and handle for a big guy. However, I worry about the jumper with the awkward release, and I didnít see much in that video with his back to the basket (or at all defensively).


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Him working out with Ochefu should be a positive. I'm not that bothered by his awkward release due to his size and ability to create space with his handle. On spot up shots his release would be even less of an issue because he wouldn't be guarded when its passed out to him.
I like the series of moves Ochefu put together in that workout. They all look fluid also. Kid is going to be really effective next season.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 27, 2018, 01:04:57 pm
WE DID IT! WELCOME JEFF!!

https://twitter.com/sean__bock/status/978678774161182720?s=21


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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 27, 2018, 01:13:54 pm
cant open twitter... is it what i think???!?!??!?!!
Title: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 27, 2018, 01:18:16 pm
cant open twitter... is it what i think???!?!??!?!!

Per Sean Bock ...

6-foot-11 Garden City CC (KS) center Jeffrey Otchere has committed to Stony Brook, a source told ZagsBlog.

Otchere chose the Seawolves over New Mexico State, Washington State, Santa Clara, and Iona. Can play right away and has 3 years left of eligibility.

 For a refresher ...

https://youtu.be/kMaR7-K6pJw

Trying not to anoint him already. Minutes were fairly limited in juco, certainly for a reason other than ďhe had guys in front of him.Ē


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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 27, 2018, 01:20:28 pm
game changer.  we can compete with vermont with guys like him, christie, and ochefu in the paint.

does that leave one more scholarship (almonacy's)?  let's go get a 2.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 27, 2018, 01:38:21 pm
The Seawolves will be exciting to watch next year on both ends of the floor
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 27, 2018, 01:40:19 pm
game changer.  we can compete with vermont with guys like him, christie, and ochefu in the paint.

does that leave one more scholarship (almonacy's)?  let's go get a 2.

Iíd love a 3/4 who you can stick in the corner to knock down threes, but can also get on the glass. Petras, Ty and Saintel all collected their fair share, so we have to fortify that, particularly with how raw our front line will be. The Navy kid seems to fit the mold.


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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on March 27, 2018, 01:46:33 pm
Lets gooooooo!!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 27, 2018, 02:08:04 pm
VC has it updated, verbal: https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/jeffrey-otchere
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 27, 2018, 02:09:49 pm
updated again, now it says scholarship.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 27, 2018, 02:24:35 pm
If this sticks, congrats to Jeff Boals (and staff) for getting the job done!

VC still has it as a "verbal commit" as of this post's timestamp.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 27, 2018, 02:27:13 pm
More on Otchere and his Junior college season impact
http://gobroncbusters.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/releases/20180325jqnu71
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: steveoh on March 27, 2018, 02:36:28 pm
HOLY MOLY! Great job Coach Boals!

https://twitter.com/Sean__Bock/status/978678774161182720

@Sean__Bock
6-foot-11 Garden City CC (KS) center Jeffrey Otchere has committed to Stony Brook, a source told ZagsBlog. Otchere chose the Seawolves over New Mexico State, Washington State, Santa Clara, and Iona. Can play right away and has 3 years left of eligibility.

Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on March 27, 2018, 04:29:43 pm
Holy cow!!!! I can't believe he chose SB over a power 5 conference.  Good catch coach B.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on March 27, 2018, 04:38:23 pm
Ballhard.. thanks for keeping us up to date with this kid. You followed this kid for a long time..
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 27, 2018, 06:22:53 pm
As significant contributors and graduates of the same class, might we call Olaniyi, Ochefu and Otchere the O Line?


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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on March 27, 2018, 06:27:38 pm
Would it be safe to say Otchere is/could be the next Jamel Warney??
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Wolfie_MD on March 27, 2018, 07:43:17 pm
Dude averaged >3 blocks a game at JuCo. He's got a 7'6 wingspan...suffice to say, I'm excited to see him hit the court with us. I know its JuCo but watching those highlights he is clearly a beast defensively. I have no idea how his offensive game will translate but he will be a monster on the glass and in the paint which will serve huge dividends.

C- Otchere
F- Ochefu
F- Yeboah
G- Latimer
G- Olaniyi

Would be miles ahead of the lineup this year IMHO.

Still gotta fill out that roster and get depth.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on March 27, 2018, 07:52:08 pm
WOW and Holy Cow  what a lineup in November! .
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on March 27, 2018, 07:53:36 pm
1 more scholarship to fill .
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 27, 2018, 07:55:42 pm
sure, a lot to prove (as some havent worn the scarlet & gray yet) but, yes, a lot to look forward to!

we couldve used nyama this year.  we showed some heart without him.  now, next year, we are replacing:

donohoe, UC, sekunda (the deuce), almonacy
with moor, latimer, ceesay

sturdy, saintel, petras
with otchere, christie

this is an upgrade, i think. GO SB
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on March 27, 2018, 08:04:51 pm
I expect this new team  to excel  this year if Boals  can get them to mesh. All the pieces are in place for 20 wins -size, skill and experience in Ochefu, Yeboah and Olanyini add Ottchere upfront and Lattimor quite a starting  five for AE team .
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Tml on March 27, 2018, 08:39:42 pm
From the vids, this guy looks like the real deal. What a coup for JB.    ;)

Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Wolfie_MD on March 27, 2018, 09:26:34 pm
Coach just posted this on Twitter- not sure what it means but it sounds like he's excited by Otchere locking down the paint. I think he'll be easily the best interior defender we have had since Warney. Sturdivant/Petras just didn't have the defensive skillset low in the post to dominate. I can't wait to see him start with us- nice to see a hometown kid return to NY too!

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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 27, 2018, 10:12:49 pm
Would it be safe to say Otchere is/could be the next Jamel Warney??

Might be a little presumptive to say that he is.


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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 27, 2018, 11:15:18 pm
Hammertime..... Thank you for your kind words.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 27, 2018, 11:17:27 pm
Would it be safe to say Otchere is/could be the next Jamel Warney??
Yes it is safe to say that. His defense from the beginning should be better than Warney's was.
His offense, not so much yet.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on March 28, 2018, 06:59:58 am
http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/02/18/2018-juco-center-jeffrey-otchere-talks-recruiting-development/
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 28, 2018, 09:31:55 am
http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/02/18/2018-juco-center-jeffrey-otchere-talks-recruiting-development/

Nice article.....the key quote, "ďSomewhere I will make an impact by playing a lot,Ē
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 28, 2018, 10:06:22 am
NBA perhaps???
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on March 28, 2018, 10:23:35 am
Looking at the strength of the roster for next season, I'm thinking that it is going to be extremely tough for Coach B. to find reasonable minutes for all of them that deserve it.  I'm guessing that there may be a couple of redshirts, and perhaps even a thought of saving the one remaining scholly for next year (that is unless a another commit comes in soon that just can't be passed up). 

Thoughts????
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 28, 2018, 10:25:56 am
this past year was by committee except for maybe yeboah and then late, ola.

i made an argument somewhere in feb that if we are going to do this, leverage the depth.  play fast paced.  half court press.  run teams into the ground, create upsets, all while filling seats.

but yes, you are correct.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 28, 2018, 10:48:48 am
Looking at the strength of the roster for next season, I'm thinking that it is going to be extremely tough for Coach B. to find reasonable minutes for all of them that deserve it.  I'm guessing that there may be a couple of redshirts, and perhaps even a thought of saving the one remaining scholly for next year (that is unless a another commit comes in soon that just can't be passed up). 

Thoughts????

I would assume Boals will be playing 10 again, like he did this year.  Not sure if Long or Garcia fit in his plans at all so playing time might be limited for them or non-existant. Maybe we'll see 1 or 2 redshirts.  It's going to be a real young team, so I can see minutes doled out in the low 20's for a bunch of them, with Yeboah and Olayini getting more (if they can stay on the court).  Having more talent is a good problem, and you never know where the injury bug may take you.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: iBOsbu on March 28, 2018, 01:15:29 pm
Exciting addition to the team. Canít wait to see all the new comers gel along with returners, as Boals continue to shape the team.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on March 28, 2018, 01:51:59 pm
  As good as he is now he is still kind of a diamond in the rough as was Warney when he first arrived .  Develop  him especially on offense and you have true NBA prospect .  Going to be a quick fast moving game next year with him in the middle.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: ThegreatK on March 28, 2018, 02:21:13 pm
Seawolf Nation, I am Jeff Otchere's Mentor. This thread displays how magnificent of a fanbase SB has. I'd like to let it be known that assistant coach Bryan Weber is a recruiting ace. He did the heavy lifting in the recruitment of Jeff along with Coach Boals. You guys have a young gifted ambitious coach/recruiter in Weber.
Stony Brook was always intriguing to him for many reasons: Location, Guys at his position graduating,young core, incoming recruits, Boals experience with guys who ended up being Pro's from his time at OSU,Boals player Freedom, Weber's likability, and the strength and conditioning coaches results. Your Strength coach is better than many high major strength coaches. Credit to Boals for bringing him in.
Bigger schools/programs were attractive but level didn't matter to him.
Stony Brook made more sense than the New Mexico State, Washington State and Old Dominion's of the world. Though those programs may have more "style points" next to their names. There is nothing wrong with Blazing your own trail. Jeff's excited to get to Campus and get to work. I am excited to see how special the team will be.
I truly believe the pieces are intact to win an America East title.
Reading through this thread I can tell these are some Miles Lattimer skeptics. Let's get this straight, he's NO JOKE. I see the best of the best prospects since I'm  part of an EYBL program and Miles doesn't look out of place among those types. He's always been back up on teams with Blue chip recruits.
Lattimer isn't a steal. It's a Highway robbery. He's that good. He's the AE rookie of the year in 2019.He's another recruit Weber got in early on.
Yeboah will be an AE First- team guy and potential POY, Elijah Olaniyi who is another recruit Bryan Weber did the heavy lifting on, will be much better than he already is.His work ethic is off the charts.He'll be an all Conference guy,no doubt about it.
I'm not low on McKenzie or Cornish. I'm Optimistic about both.
Anthony Ochefu showed flashes of what he can be this season, with a year of experience under his belt now. Watch out!
Hassan Ceesay(Another Weber Recruit) is another steal if his knee heals as expected. Being childhood friends with Olaniyi makes his transition to college that much easier. Which is a very undervalued variable.
These are the things Jeff and I saw that made SBU intriguing. He felt he could fit right into what's already there along with what's coming in and there is a serious chance to win the league as early as next season.
The Seawolves will be Well coached talented,big,long,athletic,skilled and balanced.
Title: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on March 28, 2018, 02:30:26 pm
Seawolf Nation, I am Jeff Otchere's Mentor. This thread displays how magnificent of a fanbase SB has. I'd like to let it be known that assistant coach Bryan Weber is a recruiting ace. He did the heavy lifting in the recruitment of Jeff along with Coach Boals. You guys have a young gifted ambitious coach/recruiter in Weber.
Stony Brook was always intriguing to him for many reasons: Location, Guys at his position graduating,young core, incoming recruits, Boals experience with guys who ended up being Pro's from his time at OSU,Boals player Freedom, Weber's likability, and the strength and conditioning coaches results. Your Strength coach is better than many high major strength coaches. Credit to Boals for bringing him in.
Bigger schools/programs were attractive but level didn't matter to him.
Stony Brook made more sense than the New Mexico State, Washington State and Old Dominion's of the world. Though those programs may have more "style points" next to their names. There is nothing wrong with Blazing your own trail. Jeff's excited to get to Campus and get to work. I am excited to see how special the team will be.
I truly believe the pieces are intact to win an America East title.
Reading through this thread I can tell these are some Miles Lattimer skeptics. Let's get this straight, he's NO JOKE. I see the best of the best prospects since I'm  part of an EYBL program and Miles doesn't look out of place among those types. He's always been back up on teams with Blue chip recruits.
Lattimer isn't a steal. It's a Highway robbery. He's that good. He's the AE rookie of the year in 2019.He's another recruit Weber got in early on.
Yeboah will be an AE First- team guy and potential POY, Elijah Olaniyi who is another recruit Bryan Weber did the heavy lifting on, will be much better than he already is.His work ethic is off the charts.He'll be an all Conference guy,no doubt about it.
I'm not low on McKenzie or Cornish. I'm Optimistic about both.
Anthony Ochefu showed flashes of what he can be this season, with a year of experience under his belt now. Watch out!
Hassan Ceesay(Another Weber Recruit) is another steal if his knee heals as expected. Being childhood friends with Olaniyi makes his transition to college that much easier. Which is a very undervalued variable.
These are the things Jeff and I saw that made SBU intriguing. He felt he could fit right into what's already there along with what's coming in and there is a serious chance to win the league as early as next season.
The Seawolves will be Well coached talented,big,long,athletic,skilled and balanced.

Great K, fantastic post. Thank you for the insight into the recruiting process and your perspective on the program. Iím sure there was a lot to consider, but now that a decision was made, you all can exhale a little bit and look ahead to next fall. I expect Jeff will find it to be the perfect place for him to thrive, in the arena and the classroom. Iím so glad to hear that he felt comfortable committing to this environment with these people around him. Thatís including us, the Seawolf yahoos who are THRILLED to have him on board.


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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: ThegreatK on March 28, 2018, 02:51:39 pm
Seawolf Nation, I am Jeff Otchere's Mentor. This thread displays how magnificent of a fanbase SB has. I'd like to let it be known that assistant coach Bryan Weber is a recruiting ace. He did the heavy lifting in the recruitment of Jeff along with Coach Boals. You guys have a young gifted ambitious coach/recruiter in Weber.
Stony Brook was always intriguing to him for many reasons: Location, Guys at his position graduating,young core, incoming recruits, Boals experience with guys who ended up being Pro's from his time at OSU,Boals player Freedom, Weber's likability, and the strength and conditioning coaches results. Your Strength coach is better than many high major strength coaches. Credit to Boals for bringing him in.
Bigger schools/programs were attractive but level didn't matter to him.
Stony Brook made more sense than the New Mexico State, Washington State and Old Dominion's of the world. Though those programs may have more "style points" next to their names. There is nothing wrong with Blazing your own trail. Jeff's excited to get to Campus and get to work. I am excited to see how special the team will be.
I truly believe the pieces are intact to win an America East title.
Reading through this thread I can tell these are some Miles Lattimer skeptics. Let's get this straight, he's NO JOKE. I see the best of the best prospects since I'm  part of an EYBL program and Miles doesn't look out of place among those types. He's always been back up on teams with Blue chip recruits.
Lattimer isn't a steal. It's a Highway robbery. He's that good. He's the AE rookie of the year in 2019.He's another recruit Weber got in early on.
Yeboah will be an AE First- team guy and potential POY, Elijah Olaniyi who is another recruit Bryan Weber did the heavy lifting on, will be much better than he already is.His work ethic is off the charts.He'll be an all Conference guy,no doubt about it.
I'm not low on McKenzie or Cornish. I'm Optimistic about both.
Anthony Ochefu showed flashes of what he can be this season, with a year of experience under his belt now. Watch out!
Hassan Ceesay(Another Weber Recruit) is another steal if his knee heals as expected. Being childhood friends with Olaniyi makes his transition to college that much easier. Which is a very undervalued variable.
These are the things Jeff and I saw that made SBU intriguing. He felt he could fit right into what's already there along with what's coming in and there is a serious chance to win the league as early as next season.
The Seawolves will be Well coached talented,big,long,athletic,skilled and balanced.

Great K, fantastic post. Thank you for the insight into the recruiting process and your perspective on the program. Iím sure there was a lot to consider, but now that a decision was made, you all can exhale a little bit and look ahead to next fall. I expect Jeff will find it to be the perfect place for him to thrive, in the arena and the classroom. Iím so glad to hear that he felt comfortable committing to this environment with these people around him. Thatís including us, the Seawolf yahoos who are THRILLED to have him on board.


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Checkmate, Thank you for your kind words. Jeff is pumped to be part of SBU's program and family.
Go Seawolves!!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: ThegreatK on March 28, 2018, 03:00:25 pm
  As good as he is now he is still kind of a diamond in the rough as was Warney when he first arrived .  Develop  him especially on offense and you have true NBA prospect .  Going to be a quick fast moving game next year with him in the middle.
You hit it on the nail. His offensive game needs to be rounded out. His physical gifts and rim protection will put him on the radar. Him being in the back will allow the rest of the guys to be more aggressive defensively on the perimeter, which will result in a lot more transition scores. Will be exciting to watch.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 28, 2018, 03:07:03 pm
Seawolf Nation, I am Jeff Otchere's Mentor. This thread displays how magnificent of a fanbase SB has. I'd like to let it be known that assistant coach Bryan Weber is a recruiting ace. He did the heavy lifting in the recruitment of Jeff along with Coach Boals. You guys have a young gifted ambitious coach/recruiter in Weber.
Stony Brook was always intriguing to him for many reasons: Location, Guys at his position graduating,young core, incoming recruits, Boals experience with guys who ended up being Pro's from his time at OSU,Boals player Freedom, Weber's likability, and the strength and conditioning coaches results. Your Strength coach is better than many high major strength coaches. Credit to Boals for bringing him in.
Bigger schools/programs were attractive but level didn't matter to him.
Stony Brook made more sense than the New Mexico State, Washington State and Old Dominion's of the world. Though those programs may have more "style points" next to their names. There is nothing wrong with Blazing your own trail. Jeff's excited to get to Campus and get to work. I am excited to see how special the team will be.
I truly believe the pieces are intact to win an America East title.
Reading through this thread I can tell these are some Miles Lattimer skeptics. Let's get this straight, he's NO JOKE. I see the best of the best prospects since I'm  part of an EYBL program and Miles doesn't look out of place among those types. He's always been back up on teams with Blue chip recruits.
Lattimer isn't a steal. It's a Highway robbery. He's that good. He's the AE rookie of the year in 2019.He's another recruit Weber got in early on.
Yeboah will be an AE First- team guy and potential POY, Elijah Olaniyi who is another recruit Bryan Weber did the heavy lifting on, will be much better than he already is.His work ethic is off the charts.He'll be an all Conference guy,no doubt about it.
I'm not low on McKenzie or Cornish. I'm Optimistic about both.
Anthony Ochefu showed flashes of what he can be this season, with a year of experience under his belt now. Watch out!
Hassan Ceesay(Another Weber Recruit) is another steal if his knee heals as expected. Being childhood friends with Olaniyi makes his transition to college that much easier. Which is a very undervalued variable.
These are the things Jeff and I saw that made SBU intriguing. He felt he could fit right into what's already there along with what's coming in and there is a serious chance to win the league as early as next season.
The Seawolves will be Well coached talented,big,long,athletic,skilled and balanced.

strong opening post.  strong.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 28, 2018, 03:16:42 pm
Yes, awesome post, theGreatK!  Some great confirming info, and some new stuff too for us.  As a fan, don't see or hear much about Mr. Weber's recruiting efforts and our strength coach, so just great to hear that perspective from someone on the inside.  If we can stay healthy, some great years ahead of us, no doubt!  We'll see you down at the games, and on this wonderful communication media!  Congrats to you and Jeff!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: ThegreatK on March 28, 2018, 03:47:30 pm
Yes, awesome post, theGreatK!  Some great confirming info, and some new stuff too for us.  As a fan, don't see or hear much about Mr. Weber's recruiting efforts and our strength coach, so just great to hear that perspective from someone on the inside.  If we can stay healthy, some great years ahead of us, no doubt!  We'll see you down at the games, and on this wonderful communication media!  Congrats to you and Jeff!
Thank you OldSeawolf, Weber's recruiting efforts have to be some of the best on the East coast. Your strength coach, George Greene is as good as it gets. I've spoken with strength coaches from ACC programs before and Greene is better. He's a basketball specific strength coach. In some big time programs they have strength coaches with football backgrounds. Those programs are typically high on injuries. Your post players body transformation was tremendous Year to year. Being nearly 7 feet, you'll need a great strength coach who has tried and true results. Coach Green has that. 
Some great years are surely ahead!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on March 28, 2018, 04:54:19 pm
Welcome to the Board, ThegreatK!  Love your insights.  Hope you'll stay active on the forum.  You've certainly whetted our appetites for next season!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on March 28, 2018, 05:45:36 pm
Welcome ThegreatK, thank you for your insight into the recruiting process of Otchere.Love your thorough breakdown.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on March 28, 2018, 06:49:53 pm
Welcome Thegreatk and thank you for your insight.  Jeff is going to be an  asset to our team right away and only get better cant wait to see hi play.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on March 29, 2018, 04:16:53 am
Seawolf Nation, I am Jeff Otchere's Mentor. This thread displays how magnificent of a fanbase SB has. I'd like to let it be known that assistant coach Bryan Weber is a recruiting ace. He did the heavy lifting in the recruitment of Jeff along with Coach Boals. You guys have a young gifted ambitious coach/recruiter in Weber.
Stony Brook was always intriguing to him for many reasons: Location, Guys at his position graduating,young core, incoming recruits, Boals experience with guys who ended up being Pro's from his time at OSU,Boals player Freedom, Weber's likability, and the strength and conditioning coaches results. Your Strength coach is better than many high major strength coaches. Credit to Boals for bringing him in.
Bigger schools/programs were attractive but level didn't matter to him.
Stony Brook made more sense than the New Mexico State, Washington State and Old Dominion's of the world. Though those programs may have more "style points" next to their names. There is nothing wrong with Blazing your own trail. Jeff's excited to get to Campus and get to work. I am excited to see how special the team will be.
I truly believe the pieces are intact to win an America East title.
Reading through this thread I can tell these are some Miles Lattimer skeptics. Let's get this straight, he's NO JOKE. I see the best of the best prospects since I'm  part of an EYBL program and Miles doesn't look out of place among those types. He's always been back up on teams with Blue chip recruits.
Lattimer isn't a steal. It's a Highway robbery. He's that good. He's the AE rookie of the year in 2019.He's another recruit Weber got in early on.
Yeboah will be an AE First- team guy and potential POY, Elijah Olaniyi who is another recruit Bryan Weber did the heavy lifting on, will be much better than he already is.His work ethic is off the charts.He'll be an all Conference guy,no doubt about it.
I'm not low on McKenzie or Cornish. I'm Optimistic about both.
Anthony Ochefu showed flashes of what he can be this season, with a year of experience under his belt now. Watch out!
Hassan Ceesay(Another Weber Recruit) is another steal if his knee heals as expected. Being childhood friends with Olaniyi makes his transition to college that much easier. Which is a very undervalued variable.
These are the things Jeff and I saw that made SBU intriguing. He felt he could fit right into what's already there along with what's coming in and there is a serious chance to win the league as early as next season.
The Seawolves will be Well coached talented,big,long,athletic,skilled and balanced.

Even more reasons for me to renew more 3 season tickets for the up and coming season. You just made my decision a lot easier. To be fair and honest, after 8 years as a season ticket holder I was going to let them go and just buy a couple tickets  and go to a few games. Like when we play UA, Vermont.. 

Welcome aboard and keep us up to date with breaking news please....
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: ThegreatK on March 29, 2018, 09:09:52 am
Seawolf Nation, I am Jeff Otchere's Mentor. This thread displays how magnificent of a fanbase SB has. I'd like to let it be known that assistant coach Bryan Weber is a recruiting ace. He did the heavy lifting in the recruitment of Jeff along with Coach Boals. You guys have a young gifted ambitious coach/recruiter in Weber.
Stony Brook was always intriguing to him for many reasons: Location, Guys at his position graduating,young core, incoming recruits, Boals experience with guys who ended up being Pro's from his time at OSU,Boals player Freedom, Weber's likability, and the strength and conditioning coaches results. Your Strength coach is better than many high major strength coaches. Credit to Boals for bringing him in.
Bigger schools/programs were attractive but level didn't matter to him.
Stony Brook made more sense than the New Mexico State, Washington State and Old Dominion's of the world. Though those programs may have more "style points" next to their names. There is nothing wrong with Blazing your own trail. Jeff's excited to get to Campus and get to work. I am excited to see how special the team will be.
I truly believe the pieces are intact to win an America East title.
Reading through this thread I can tell these are some Miles Lattimer skeptics. Let's get this straight, he's NO JOKE. I see the best of the best prospects since I'm  part of an EYBL program and Miles doesn't look out of place among those types. He's always been back up on teams with Blue chip recruits.
Lattimer isn't a steal. It's a Highway robbery. He's that good. He's the AE rookie of the year in 2019.He's another recruit Weber got in early on.
Yeboah will be an AE First- team guy and potential POY, Elijah Olaniyi who is another recruit Bryan Weber did the heavy lifting on, will be much better than he already is.His work ethic is off the charts.He'll be an all Conference guy,no doubt about it.
I'm not low on McKenzie or Cornish. I'm Optimistic about both.
Anthony Ochefu showed flashes of what he can be this season, with a year of experience under his belt now. Watch out!
Hassan Ceesay(Another Weber Recruit) is another steal if his knee heals as expected. Being childhood friends with Olaniyi makes his transition to college that much easier. Which is a very undervalued variable.
These are the things Jeff and I saw that made SBU intriguing. He felt he could fit right into what's already there along with what's coming in and there is a serious chance to win the league as early as next season.
The Seawolves will be Well coached talented,big,long,athletic,skilled and balanced.

Even more reasons for me to renew more 3 season tickets for the up and coming season. You just made my decision a lot easier. To be fair and honest, after 8 years as a season ticket holder I was going to let them go and just buy a couple tickets  and go to a few games. Like when we play UA, Vermont.. 

Welcome aboard and keep us up to date with breaking news please....
Thank you for the warm welcome to the board by you and all the other great seawolf supporters.
Glad you're holding on to your season tickets. I think it will be well worth it. Stony Brook will have the most talented roster in the America East on paper. All the pieces are are in place to put serious pressure on everyone else in this league. Something we also looked at is teams who finished above SBU in the standings, graduate a bulk of their production. Vermont has a Stud in Lamb who'll just be a junior but they basically lose everyone else. UMBC loses their Dynamite backcourt which is irreplaceable.Albany loses Travis Charles and the boys upfront. While everyone loses their big guns, SBU returns their big gun(Yeboah), the best young gun in the conference(Olaniyi),brings in the next best young gun(Lattimer), has a steady hand at the 1 in McKenzie who doesn't turn it over, and he'll be even better with more talent around him with his game being predicated on feeding guys and taking care of possessions. Steady, heady guards like that flourish more when you surround them with more horses. Cornish is as explosive as they come and has moments where he looks like a Mid major plus guard. I really believe in his talent. When you look at his "good moments" he does top shelf stuff. Just need him having more of those moments which he will. Jules Moore is a recruit who's been battle tested on the prep school level. While attending the prestigious Hargrove Military academy ,he plays against all the nationally  ranked prep schools in America night in and night out. He isn't coming from a traditional neighborhood high school. 
All of that is what Jeff wanted to be a part of. Not to mention, on the visit Jeff said it was clear that the guys on the team were Hoopers and workers. On college visits you can get a vibe for how much of a true basketball player guys on the team really are. Do guys go and play pick-up with each other? Do guys go and do repitions of Drills?
The answer to those questions when it comes to the SBU program is YES.
Half of the Power 5 schools in America can't say the same about the players in their program. This is a fact that I know first hand.
Which speaks Volumes about the Cluture Boals and his Staff have developed.
If you aspire to be a high level player, you place yourself in that kind of environment.
In my opinion, from all angles there is a nice recipe for for the Seawolves to run the tables legitimately.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 30, 2018, 06:51:49 am
adrian nelson: http://sbufan.createaforum.com/stony-brook-basketball/what-would-you-do-with-the-last-roster-spot/msg22142/#msg22142
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: GoSeawolves on March 30, 2018, 08:42:02 am
Seawolf Nation, I am Jeff Otchere's Mentor. This thread displays how magnificent of a fanbase SB has. I'd like to let it be known that assistant coach Bryan Weber is a recruiting ace. He did the heavy lifting in the recruitment of Jeff along with Coach Boals. You guys have a young gifted ambitious coach/recruiter in Weber.
Stony Brook was always intriguing to him for many reasons: Location, Guys at his position graduating,young core, incoming recruits, Boals experience with guys who ended up being Pro's from his time at OSU,Boals player Freedom, Weber's likability, and the strength and conditioning coaches results. Your Strength coach is better than many high major strength coaches. Credit to Boals for bringing him in.
Bigger schools/programs were attractive but level didn't matter to him.
Stony Brook made more sense than the New Mexico State, Washington State and Old Dominion's of the world. Though those programs may have more "style points" next to their names. There is nothing wrong with Blazing your own trail. Jeff's excited to get to Campus and get to work. I am excited to see how special the team will be.
I truly believe the pieces are intact to win an America East title.
Reading through this thread I can tell these are some Miles Lattimer skeptics. Let's get this straight, he's NO JOKE. I see the best of the best prospects since I'm  part of an EYBL program and Miles doesn't look out of place among those types. He's always been back up on teams with Blue chip recruits.
Lattimer isn't a steal. It's a Highway robbery. He's that good. He's the AE rookie of the year in 2019.He's another recruit Weber got in early on.
Yeboah will be an AE First- team guy and potential POY, Elijah Olaniyi who is another recruit Bryan Weber did the heavy lifting on, will be much better than he already is.His work ethic is off the charts.He'll be an all Conference guy,no doubt about it.
I'm not low on McKenzie or Cornish. I'm Optimistic about both.
Anthony Ochefu showed flashes of what he can be this season, with a year of experience under his belt now. Watch out!
Hassan Ceesay(Another Weber Recruit) is another steal if his knee heals as expected. Being childhood friends with Olaniyi makes his transition to college that much easier. Which is a very undervalued variable.
These are the things Jeff and I saw that made SBU intriguing. He felt he could fit right into what's already there along with what's coming in and there is a serious chance to win the league as early as next season.
The Seawolves will be Well coached talented,big,long,athletic,skilled and balanced.
I cannot tell you how happy I am to see that Jeff decided to attend Stony Brook and thank you for the insight! The university has been growing so fast and is becoming the center of sports on long island. I am a small business owner and bought season tickets 5 years ago, more of a way to give back to my community because Stony Brook has been doing such great things. I attended the first game I was hooked! I was not even a college basketball fan, when SB won the AE tournament it was one of the best sporting events i have ever been to. Also thanks to chairman of the board and the other people that constantly contribute to the blog. I am not the most knowledgeable basketball fan so I read and learn from you guys.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: ThegreatK on March 30, 2018, 09:39:07 am
Seawolf Nation, I am Jeff Otchere's Mentor. This thread displays how magnificent of a fanbase SB has. I'd like to let it be known that assistant coach Bryan Weber is a recruiting ace. He did the heavy lifting in the recruitment of Jeff along with Coach Boals. You guys have a young gifted ambitious coach/recruiter in Weber.
Stony Brook was always intriguing to him for many reasons: Location, Guys at his position graduating,young core, incoming recruits, Boals experience with guys who ended up being Pro's from his time at OSU,Boals player Freedom, Weber's likability, and the strength and conditioning coaches results. Your Strength coach is better than many high major strength coaches. Credit to Boals for bringing him in.
Bigger schools/programs were attractive but level didn't matter to him.
Stony Brook made more sense than the New Mexico State, Washington State and Old Dominion's of the world. Though those programs may have more "style points" next to their names. There is nothing wrong with Blazing your own trail. Jeff's excited to get to Campus and get to work. I am excited to see how special the team will be.
I truly believe the pieces are intact to win an America East title.
Reading through this thread I can tell these are some Miles Lattimer skeptics. Let's get this straight, he's NO JOKE. I see the best of the best prospects since I'm  part of an EYBL program and Miles doesn't look out of place among those types. He's always been back up on teams with Blue chip recruits.
Lattimer isn't a steal. It's a Highway robbery. He's that good. He's the AE rookie of the year in 2019.He's another recruit Weber got in early on.
Yeboah will be an AE First- team guy and potential POY, Elijah Olaniyi who is another recruit Bryan Weber did the heavy lifting on, will be much better than he already is.His work ethic is off the charts.He'll be an all Conference guy,no doubt about it.
I'm not low on McKenzie or Cornish. I'm Optimistic about both.
Anthony Ochefu showed flashes of what he can be this season, with a year of experience under his belt now. Watch out!
Hassan Ceesay(Another Weber Recruit) is another steal if his knee heals as expected. Being childhood friends with Olaniyi makes his transition to college that much easier. Which is a very undervalued variable.
These are the things Jeff and I saw that made SBU intriguing. He felt he could fit right into what's already there along with what's coming in and there is a serious chance to win the league as early as next season.
The Seawolves will be Well coached talented,big,long,athletic,skilled and balanced.
I cannot tell you how happy I am to see that Jeff decided to attend Stony Brook and thank you for the insight! The university has been growing so fast and is becoming the center of sports on long island. I am a small business owner and bought season tickets 5 years ago, more of a way to give back to my community because Stony Brook has been doing such great things. I attended the first game I was hooked! I was not even a college basketball fan, when SB won the AE tournament it was one of the best sporting events i have ever been to. Also thanks to chairman of the board and the other people that constantly contribute to the blog. I am not the most knowledgeable basketball fan so I read and learn from you guys.
You are right, Stony seems to be trending upward. Your season tickets shall greatly come in handy this upcoming season. Hopefully Jeff can help boost the sports profile of Stony Brook and assist providing that magical feeling you speak of when the team you root for hoist the conference title. That's the goal. 2019 is Stony's year!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on March 31, 2018, 12:28:06 pm
Has anybody followed G/F B J Saliba from Hackensack High School?  Videos and stats on this kid are terrific!  Yet, SBU, apparently is the only school that has offered.  Anyone know why?  Is there an academic issue?  If not, I think he would be a steal!!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on April 03, 2018, 03:18:59 pm
adrian nelson: http://sbufan.createaforum.com/stony-brook-basketball/what-would-you-do-with-the-last-roster-spot/msg22142/#msg22142

Heading to Northern Kentucky instead.


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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on April 03, 2018, 03:38:05 pm
Per JUCORecruiting on Twitter, PF Eli Abaev, who we've offered according to VC, will be making official visits to Milwaukee, Austin Peay, Green Bay and Gardner-Webb this month after visiting Washington State back in September. He averaged 9.1 ppg and 9.8 rpg for Eastern Florida State this season. Long story short, it doesn't sound like we're on his short list.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on April 03, 2018, 04:59:57 pm
Keep plugging away or just hold the extra scholarship till next season .
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on April 03, 2018, 10:27:45 pm
Alanzo Frink to South Carolina. Hope Frank Martin can get the most out of him.

https://www.prepcircuit.com/news_article/show/904092



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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on April 04, 2018, 04:45:07 pm
Just keeping tabs on Frankie Policelli. He recently picked up an offer from Maryland, which joins a long list of Power 5/mid-major programs to offer him. He's seen us up close and personal, but I can't imagine him making it to us, even though he'd be a good fit for our roster. I won't cross him off until he crosses us off.

http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2018/04/syracuse_basketball_early_2018_bracketology.html
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on April 06, 2018, 10:09:45 am
We're out of the running for juco big man Carlos Dotson.

https://twitter.com/Carlos_Dotson/status/981699392506867712

R.i.P grandpa
‏@Carlos_Dotson
Final 3(NO ORDER)🙏🏽 : FAU , Western Carolina , Radford
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on April 11, 2018, 01:01:34 pm
Tre King from Hargrave is going elsewhere. We had offered him.

https://twitter.com/verbalcommits/status/984100297751445504?s=21


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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 11, 2018, 05:40:01 pm
SEAWOLVES SIGN OTCHERE, CEESAY TO NLIS
The pair will join Jules Moor, Miles Latimer and Alex Christie as the Seawolves' newcomers for the 2018-19 season.
http://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2018/4/11/mens-basketball-seawolves-sign-otchere-ceesay-to-nlis.aspx

ceesay has some nice corner threes!  and well otchere is otchere.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 18, 2018, 05:17:43 pm
abaev to... austin peay???

id still like to see us land a 2 or rombley.  preston and saliba have no other offers.  we could have a chance at dallas watson or weatherspoon. 
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on April 23, 2018, 09:19:43 pm
Policelli to Dayton. We were a longshot but just closing the book on it.


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Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on April 24, 2018, 10:21:28 am
Maybe we get a transfer with D1 experience. The new rules on transfers let them play right away . Just hoping .
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 24, 2018, 10:24:47 am
let's get rombley.  our competition right now is canisius and RMU, both of which have 4-5 forwards to compete with.  maybe he's holding out for other offers, i dunno.  anyone have intel?
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on April 24, 2018, 11:34:39 am
Maybe we get a transfer with D1 experience. The new rules on transfers let them play right away . Just hoping .

The NCAA has discussed not having to sit a year, but at this point, anyone who transfers in from another four-year school would have to sit a year. Unless of course they've graduated, which is all the rage these days.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on May 03, 2018, 11:21:54 am
Ball, you know anything about this kid Brad Bundschuh from Gill St. Bernard's? I liked what I saw from him Ė good build, good athlete for a big guy, bangs inside, and can step out and shoot it. I know he's out with a concussion but seems like he has some ability.

https://youtu.be/0_amp5pLErw

Just as an update, Bundschuh is going to SMU Ė not sure if it's for hoops or not.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on May 03, 2018, 01:52:21 pm
I just wonder if Boals is just going to sit on the scholarship until next season and not offer it to anyone.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on May 05, 2018, 04:13:44 pm
I just wonder if Boals is just going to sit on the scholarship until next season and not offer it to anyone.

Here's your answer:  Makale Forman has just committed to SBU.  He's a transfer UT Chatanooga, and will have to sit one to play 2 years,

Here's a little more background on Foreman.  Note the Hargrave ( by now a reliable SBU source) connection, which provides some insight into how Coach B. may have found this kid:

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/sports/college/story/2016/oct/26/utc-basketball-freshmforemshoots-well-and-fea/394177/

Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on May 05, 2018, 04:51:30 pm
Sounds like a good pick up for us .  We have him for two years that's great.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on May 07, 2018, 10:00:50 am
I just wonder if Boals is just going to sit on the scholarship until next season and not offer it to anyone.

Here's your answer:  Makale Forman has just committed to SBU.  He's a transfer UT Chatanooga, and will have to sit one to play 2 years,

Here's a little more background on Foreman.  Note the Hargrave ( by now a reliable SBU source) connection, which provides some insight into how Coach B. may have found this kid:

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/sports/college/story/2016/oct/26/utc-basketball-freshmforemshoots-well-and-fea/394177/

So even though he'll be sitting out, this is our last 2018-19 scholarship, correct?

I'm curious what else he brings to the table besides experience and shotmaking (both of which we'll take, mind you). On the surface, he doesn't appear to be a penetrator, playmaker or elite defender.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Ballhard000 on May 09, 2018, 10:43:13 am
Better than any guard SBU would recruit in 2019 which would be the year he's eligible til 2021. Gives us way more of a sure thing in the backcourt as Cornish exits. Won't be a learning curve due to him being a D1 player for 2 years. Will have a year to sit out, work with Greene in the weight room. Get used to Boals and his teammates. This pick up could be huge. Everyone seems to be fiesting on the transfer market. SB got in on the fun.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on May 15, 2018, 02:08:50 pm
foreman officially signs. https://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/stony-brook

so he sits a year, right?
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on May 15, 2018, 03:17:42 pm
foreman officially signs. https://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/stony-brook

so he sits a year, right?

Out for next season, in uniform for the next two.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on August 31, 2018, 04:10:52 pm
O.K.  I really hesitate to ask this question, because I know that I'm really, really going to feel stupid when one of you gives me the answer.  But, here goes anyway!!

In the new team photo that has just appeared on the Twitter feeds, there are 14 players shown.  To my knowledge, there are only 13 on the roster.  I even checked the roster on the official website, just to make sure.  I realize that the new players don't have warmup jerseys with their correct numbers, since they probably aren't available yet.  That said, I do believe I recognize them anyway.  But, I am stumped by no. 14 in the photo.  Who the heck is he--anew walk-on that we haven't heard about??? :o :o :o
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on August 31, 2018, 07:24:08 pm
I did the same thing sbugold. I'm guessing it's Nicolas Aubry from Chaminade HS. He's listed as a men's basketball commitment on Newsday, but I've never been able to find much information on him. I can't even find a nicolas aubry on the chaminade mens basketball roster.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on August 31, 2018, 07:59:56 pm
If it I Aubry he is a keeper .  6'7 240 lbs  and 28 points a game in summer league play . Native of Port Jefferson an played at Chaminade .   He might  fill a scholarship when Cornish graduates. Boals seems like to them big up front .
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: laxnation on August 31, 2018, 08:43:17 pm
If it I Aubry he is a keeper .  6'7 240 lbs  and 28 points a game in summer league play . Native of Port Jefferson an played at Chaminade .   He might  fill a scholarship when Cornish graduates. Boals seems like to them big up front .
Looks more like a DII or DIII player.
https://youtu.be/uy9HHLi8NWo
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on September 01, 2018, 10:33:34 am
Good catch, subfan!!  He does seem to be the guy, and numerous sites confirm that he's coming to the Seawolves.  But, this kid is a real mystery.  I checked back on Chaminade's box score for the last two seasons, and Aubry is nowhere to be found.  How did Coach B. stumble onto him?  He looks like he may need to shed a few pounds, and doesn't seem to move as fluidly as most at this level.  There's got to be an interesting story here; sure like to hear it!

Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Seawolf97 on September 01, 2018, 12:01:24 pm
Looks like a good pick up for us . Shoots the  three and can drive to the basket and also block shots.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: steveoh on September 04, 2018, 03:10:26 pm
I don't know where you all are getting your information from, but my internet tells me that Nicolas Aubry is a French priest who accompanied Pierre Dugua, Sieur de Monts to Acadia in 1604. No high school stats available.

So we've got that going for us, which is nice.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbufan on September 04, 2018, 03:37:32 pm
I'm with you Steveoh; I can't find much of anything on him playing basketball. It looks like he was a nice volleyball player at Chaminade though. My guess is that he's new to basketball and Boals and co brought him in as a low risk high upside
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Checkmate on September 04, 2018, 04:36:14 pm
Eh. I'm guessing he's just a big body who can body up with Christie and Ochefu in practice. Best case scenario, he gives them a breather in the game and has five fouls to use.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on November 01, 2018, 12:06:02 pm
Just noticed that walk-on Chaminade F Nick Aubry has officially been added to the Seawolves' roster.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Hammertime on November 01, 2018, 12:56:51 pm
Just noticed that walk-on Chaminade F Nick Aubry has officially been added to the Seawolves' roster.

Do we know anything about him?
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 01, 2018, 01:18:03 pm
https://stonybrookathletics.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=5908

https://www.ncsasports.org/mens-basketball-recruiting/new-york/mineola/chaminade-high-school/nicolas-aubry
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 06, 2018, 04:09:38 pm
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With six new players on the team, it will be  interesting to see how team chemistry develops throughout the season. The Seawolves also have two walk-ons: Quari Alleyne and Nick Aubrey. Additionally, at 7í0Ē, Alex Christie, alongside UVM center Jake Lorenzo, is the tallest person in the conference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdSaP8i-o4Q
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: sbugold on November 06, 2018, 04:58:53 pm
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With six new players on the team, it will be  interesting to see how team chemistry develops throughout the season. The Seawolves also have two walk-ons: Quari Alleyne and Nick Aubrey. Additionally, at 7’0”, Alex Christie, alongside UVM center Jake Lorenzo, is the tallest person in the conference.

When did this Quari Alleyne thing happen?  Never saw anything about it previously, and he doesn't appear on the website roster--even though the team plays its first game tonight!!  Any background on him, other than the video (e.g. stats, writeups)?  It all seems so odd this late in the recruiting process.
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 06, 2018, 05:03:15 pm
yeah.  all i found was that he writes for the Press.  hence the article!
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 12, 2019, 10:58:30 pm
is this unusual?  three on the radar from LuHi: https://twitter.com/LuHiBasketball/status/1058909013331591169
Title: Re: 2018 Recruiting
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 13, 2019, 03:23:47 am
is this unusual?  three on the radar from LuHi: https://twitter.com/LuHiBasketball/status/1058909013331591169

When we're as good as we are right now?? Not at all! Recruits will definitely want to come here when they see what we're doing. Granted many of them will want to go play against better competition in stronger conferences which is a different debate...