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Title: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 01, 2011, 09:49:00 am
This is the game thread for the Stony Brook vs Liberty game @ LaValle Stadium on November 19th (3:30PM). Since there is talk about this game already in other threads in anticipation of this huge game, possibly the "Big South Championship Game" (FCS Autobid), if everything goes as .I decided to make the thread early.

Lets make a good discussion and put our thoughts in for the Big South game of the year

Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: sbufan on November 01, 2011, 10:49:58 am
We have to make sure that students show up and get loud. Take advantage of playing at home.

Inside man, is there anything planned for this game to try and get more fans in attendance?
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: jcmanson on November 01, 2011, 11:12:23 am
Looking forward to it. I made the trek to LI 2 years ago. I don't think I will do the same this year, unfortunately.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: aredd33 on November 01, 2011, 01:26:28 pm
Will the game being right before Thanksgiving hurt attendance a lot?
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Redwyn on November 01, 2011, 01:51:55 pm
Doubtful. Classes run till Wed. Not really a good idea for a lot of students to jump ship that week.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 01, 2011, 04:12:51 pm
Many of us have midterms right before thanksgiving. I don't think people will leave home early.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: aredd33 on November 01, 2011, 05:44:46 pm
Oh okay, I just assumed Friday would be the last day of classes.  I didn't realize that the students had class till that Wednesday.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: InsideMan on November 02, 2011, 10:57:46 am
The student tailgate that was originally planned for October 29th has been rescheduled for the November 19th.  There will be free food for all students outside Gate 2. 

Remember you can text "wolfie" to 313131 to receive updates every 2 weeks on all of the student events.

We will be doing a big push to get students out for what potentially could be a Big South Championship game.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 02, 2011, 12:16:35 pm
Yes the school definitely has to put more effort in trying to built the football culture. Its not that students dislike the sport, or lack the the interest in following the seawolves. Its a problem of awareness. Many are not aware about the football game. Many others don't go because they don't want to be the loners in empty stands.

The LU vs SB game should be a 7k+ attendance game considering what will be at stake!
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: SleepySmurf on November 04, 2011, 01:01:21 pm
SHHH!! Its too soon to talk about this game and the "potential big south championship game."  Let's not look past CSU and GW.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Seawolf97 on November 04, 2011, 10:28:09 pm
Exactly  1 game at a time.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 05, 2011, 01:22:47 pm
I wouldn't say its too early. Ok fine, We can talk about it after 4PM this afternoon if we beat CSU... Losing to GWU wont make a difference if we win today

Also, we are fans, not the coach or the team. We can give opinions and talk about the future anytime! ;)
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Seawolf97 on November 05, 2011, 08:44:15 pm
On to GWU!   Both us and Liberty took care of business  today.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 06, 2011, 09:31:47 pm
For those that have Facebook and have a bit of time:

Lets spread the word about the game. Each game has an event page made by Stony Brook athletics. Invite all your friends related to Stony Brook University. Lets make it happen. Awareness is key

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=178367022214742
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Sly Fox on November 07, 2011, 10:38:02 am
Glad to see you guys working to make this into an event.

Will the fact that the game is televised hurt or help attendance on Long Island?
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: sbufan on November 07, 2011, 11:04:14 am
I don't think so. The primary cable provider on Long Island is Cablevision and they don't offer ESPN3, so I think most of us don't have access to the feed. I assume we don't have the Flames Sports Network either.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Knucklehead on November 07, 2011, 03:53:33 pm
ESPN3 is an internet outlet and is not on cable or Satelite in most cases.  Peolpe would be able to watch on the net though.  The feed on ESPN 3 will be the Flames Sports Net feed, but no there are no other outlets up your way. 

I am so psyched for this game and will be there.  In my opinion this is one of the biggest games in the history of LU football and our guys will be amped.  I actually think we played down a little the last 2 weeks because they were already looking forward to this game.  It's a lot more complicated of course, but I like to boil it down to: your run game vs our run d and our pass game vs your pass d.  I like our chances.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: sbufan on November 07, 2011, 04:40:57 pm
Yeah the main internet provider (at least my internet provider) is also cablevision, and they haven't made a deal for espn3 yet.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 07, 2011, 05:07:49 pm
For those in SBU they can watch ESPN3 for free but obviously makes more sense to attend the game and support the team. By the way, Seawolves Night Live tonight. Check it out at 7 in wusb.fm/listen ... Coach Priore, Pikiell, and O'Boyle are probably going to give their weekly chat
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Seawolf97 on November 07, 2011, 09:41:43 pm
  I'm hoping the weather is good and we should have a good turn out.   Against  Coastal we had 1619 die hard fans in a feezing gale.  Looking forward to it.

Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: jcmanson on November 08, 2011, 08:33:31 am
Knuckle, no doubt about it, this IS Liberty's biggest game in school history. Not one of the biggest games. It's the biggest.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 08, 2011, 08:50:36 am
Seawolf97:

I'll say 500 diehards were there, the rest were payed tickets but didn't attend. I was there and no way there was 1600 people there that night. The game against liberty should have about 5k, that would be a success for SB
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Knucklehead on November 09, 2011, 08:41:14 am
Yea Manson, I think you are right.  It's hard because I've been around for so long, but this feels huge.  I don't think there are superlatives that are too big for either team to describe this game.  Hey SBU fans, where does this game rank for you in SBU Football history?  Just curious.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: sbufan on November 09, 2011, 10:20:20 am
I would have to guess that the last two games against Liberty have been Stony Brook's biggest games to this point. I believe the 2009 season finale was our first win against a ranked opponent. Last year we controlled our own destiny heading down to Lynchburg and all we had to do was not let up however many points so that was a big game/disappointment for us. I would say this years game is the biggest because we are playing at home for our first playoff spot.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Knucklehead on November 09, 2011, 10:23:45 am
2 undefeated teams undefeated in conference who have split the past 2 years both playing for their first ever spot in the playoffs.  How could it get better than this?
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: jaghatai on November 09, 2011, 07:20:23 pm
Liberty has an awful lot of pressure on them too.  Their senior class hasnt made the playoffs yet, and if they don't make it this year, it could only be considered a massive disappointment (Brown, Summers, Chapman, Bevins, and Larsson are all-conference seniors, and they've won 4 straight conference championships).

Stony Brook has some pressure, but not as much as they do.  I'm hoping that works in our favor.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Knucklehead on November 13, 2011, 03:26:37 pm
I can't stop thinking about this game.  I can't wait to see the Flames back on the field up in LI.  I think this team will be rested and ready to roll.  Let's move this week.  This will be an epic battle.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 13, 2011, 09:03:05 pm
with our chance to get our third championship of the year this next saturday. Men's soccer just pulled it off. Football has to the same. Women Cross Country has done it every year. This has been a good start for Seawolves sports. Lets keep it going!
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Knucklehead on November 13, 2011, 11:26:43 pm
Our Men's soccer guys knocked off #9 CCU on Friday and then GW today to win the Big South!  What's the forecast up there for Saturday?  Do I need my long Johns?
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Sly Fox on November 14, 2011, 09:58:23 am
I'd pack the Long Johns either way.  The win blows at funny angles up there on long Island.

By the way, MASN is carrying the game live so folks with DirecTv will have this one in their living rooms.  It still is a Flames Sports Network production being carried there as well.  I wouldn't be shocked to hear that one of the local or regional channels picks it up as well.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Knucklehead on November 14, 2011, 10:17:26 am
Go to this link for a very fair preview article from the LU FCS beat  writer here in Lynchburg.  http://www2.newsadvance.com/sports/2011/nov/14/liberty-stony-brook-delving-numbers-ar-1458363/?referer=None&shorturl=http://bit.ly/s6rLVj (http://www2.newsadvance.com/sports/2011/nov/14/liberty-stony-brook-delving-numbers-ar-1458363/?referer=None&shorturl=http://bit.ly/s6rLVj)

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Just six days remain until kickoff on Long Island for the Big South championship game between Liberty and Stony Brook. As far as I can tell, this marks the first time that two Big South teams have been undefeated heading into the final game of the season. And one thing is for certain this time: Thereís no consolation prize involved. No one gets a share of the title this year without winning this game, and thatís great for the conference.

Whatís on the line? Obviously, a spot in the FCS playoffs. The winner gets in, the loser goes home. To reiterate, neither team will get to seven Division I wins without winning this game, so neither will be in play for an at-large berth. I know, I know. Itís a suggestion, not a requirement. Well, Iím suggesting that no FCS team has ever received an at-large bid without getting to seven DI wins, and that wonít change this year.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ry1nik on November 14, 2011, 10:38:36 am
It's mind boggling that in the new FCS Coaches' poll, Liberty is ranked #15 and SBU is not even receiving votes.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Knucklehead on November 14, 2011, 10:43:42 am
Relax, the poll desn't come out till this afternoon.  They update the records over the weekend so it looks new but it's not.   My guess is we will be 15, 16 and you guys will be around 20-23.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Sly Fox on November 14, 2011, 10:46:48 am
And the coaches poll is nearly universally panned as a complete joke.  No one pays attention to that one.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: sbufan on November 14, 2011, 11:08:37 am
Go to this link for a very fair preview article from the LU FCS beat  writer here in Lynchburg.  http://www2.newsadvance.com/sports/2011/nov/14/liberty-stony-brook-delving-numbers-ar-1458363/?referer=None&shorturl=http://bit.ly/s6rLVj (http://www2.newsadvance.com/sports/2011/nov/14/liberty-stony-brook-delving-numbers-ar-1458363/?referer=None&shorturl=http://bit.ly/s6rLVj)

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Just six days remain until kickoff on Long Island for the Big South championship game between Liberty and Stony Brook. As far as I can tell, this marks the first time that two Big South teams have been undefeated heading into the final game of the season. And one thing is for certain this time: Thereís no consolation prize involved. No one gets a share of the title this year without winning this game, and thatís great for the conference.

Whatís on the line? Obviously, a spot in the FCS playoffs. The winner gets in, the loser goes home. To reiterate, neither team will get to seven Division I wins without winning this game, so neither will be in play for an at-large berth. I know, I know. Itís a suggestion, not a requirement. Well, Iím suggesting that no FCS team has ever received an at-large bid without getting to seven DI wins, and that wonít change this year.

I think a lot of those numbers are misleading. For whatever it's worth, Priore thought that Gardner Webb had the best run defense that we would see outside of Buffalo and Utep.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Seawolf97 on November 14, 2011, 11:39:05 am
Looks like the stage is set.  Even the long range weather outlook  seems promising.  For what it's worth  could be  near 60 and clear Saturday afternoon. Perfect football weather!
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 14, 2011, 01:16:56 pm
weather looks good so far. This will be a great game. Hoping that a lot of LU fans come out and makes this more of a real championship in which both fan bases are in great numbers.

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As of now, I am waiting for the Poll and wondering if there is any chance that the big south can have two ranked teams. I doubt it, but it surely would be great for the upcoming game.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ry1nik on November 14, 2011, 01:29:14 pm
The FCSNow.com poll has the 'Wolves at 26, LIberty at 15.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 14, 2011, 01:33:05 pm
TSN Poll has liberty at #16, and Stony Brook receiving 135 votes but not ranked. My hopes of having two ranked teams for the upcoming game wont happen.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Redwyn on November 14, 2011, 07:03:10 pm
TSN Poll has liberty at #16, and Stony Brook receiving 135 votes but not ranked. My hopes of having two ranked teams for the upcoming game wont happen.

What do you mean? The AnyGivenSaturday.com Poll (the only really decent one in FCS) has SBU at #25. Both teams - at least in my eyes - are ranked going into Saturday.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?100180-AGS-Top-25-Week-11-Poll-Results
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 14, 2011, 07:08:38 pm
I though the The Sports Network poll was the most followed one. I know there is hundreds of polls and some include SBU in the top 25 but I've seen TSN used widely and they still don't have us ranked.

Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Redwyn on November 14, 2011, 07:14:02 pm

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I though the The Sports Network poll was the most followed one. I know there is hundreds of polls and some include SBU in the top 25 but I've seen TSN used widely and they still don't have us ranked.


TSN is generally regarded as a horrible poll by those in the know, Sports Network as well. Neither police their poll as well as AnyGivenSaturday, and big FCS fans ignore the Coaches Poll completely.

In my eyes, the only true poll is AGS.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 14, 2011, 07:24:09 pm
I'll take that into consideration next time I look at the polls Redwyn. I don't know much about the reliability of the Polls. Thanks for the info.

Lets spread the word on the game guys. We need everyone out there this November 19th! Seriously!
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: sbufan on November 14, 2011, 09:56:21 pm
I really don't understand why Liberty is ranked so far ahead of us. Robert Morris isn't a better win than Lafayette.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Sly Fox on November 14, 2011, 10:26:30 pm
Polls are primarily based on reputation.  Liberty has earned some respect in recent years and SBU is earning it right now.  I think you'll find yourselves very pleasantly surprised by how you are treated by pollsters next year if you win on Saturday.  We're paying attention and seeing that you guys deserve a ranking.  Not everyone follows the Big South as closely as we do.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: jcmanson on November 15, 2011, 09:06:51 am
Liberty has been ranked just about every week from the past 4 seasons. What has that gotten us? Nothing. We would gladly trade in all of our rankings, including our current one, for a win Saturday. At this level, rankings mean very, very little.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ry1nik on November 15, 2011, 09:31:56 am
With your QB and top receiver graduating this year, are expectations high for next year (staying in the Top 20) or are Liberty fans preparing for a let down?
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: sbufan on November 15, 2011, 10:57:51 am
I know we have possibly the biggest game in Stony Brook history coming up, but the 2012 Stony Brook team is going to be NICE. I think we return 16 starters and something like 35 players from our two deep.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: jcmanson on November 15, 2011, 11:22:30 am
Our expectations will stay high. We fully expect to compete for and win another conference championship next year. Yes we lose alot at our skill positions - QB, 3 of our top 4 WRs, TE, but we also return most everything else. All of our RBs will be back. 4 of 5 starting OLine, 9 of our 11 starters on Defense. Our understudy at QB is a RJR and has had a lot of snaps over his career. He's been Mike Brown's backup for 3 years now. We also have 2 QBs redshirting this year. One is "the next Mike Brown" and the other is a tall, big white kid who turned down a scholly offer to Wake and other BCS programs. It will be an interesting battle to see who wins the full time job next year and moving forward.

Our conference schedule next year:
SBU - home
GW - home
CSU - home
As you all know we haven't lost at home in conference since 2006. We don't plan on starting anytime soon. I don't see either GW or CSU coming in and beating us. You guys will be a challenge, but with us at home I like our chances. Just look at the results from your previous 2 trips to Lynchburg.

CCU - away
VMI - away
PC - away
CCU will always be tough down on the beach. I'm not worried about VMI. And PC will be solid, but we will still be favored and should win.

Hard to say we won't expect to win another conference championship even if we are in a reloading type of year. A lot of people said 2009 would be the year to knock us off.

Anyways, there's plenty of time to talk about next year during the offseason. Huge game for both teams and the conference coming up on Saturday. I've heard it referred to as the biggest game in conference history.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: jcmanson on November 15, 2011, 11:28:26 am
By my count, Liberty returns 14 starters and 30 from the 2 deep.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ry1nik on November 15, 2011, 11:41:29 am
I'd like to see both Liberty and SB on fire next year so the other gets an at-large bid. It's going to take both teams losing no more than two games each, but even with one or more BCS opponents on the schedule, it's possible.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: sbufan on November 15, 2011, 11:48:52 am
I honestly think the conference is only going to get better. I think coach Nichol's is doing a great job at Presbyterian and expect them to just get better every year as they continue to add scholarships and settle in D1A football. I think Gardner Webb is only going to get better next year as Dickerson has another year to put his system in place. Coastal has been very good in the past and there's no reason why they can't be that good again. I definitely think the Big South can be a two bid league next year.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: jcmanson on November 15, 2011, 12:20:10 pm
Liberty's OOC schedule next year will be very difficult:
@ Wake Forest
vs Lehigh (Patriot League champ 2 years running)
vs Norfolk St (MEAC champ)
another game which hasn't been confirmed yet against an FCS power

If we come through all of that plus conference play with only 2 losses I'll be doing cartwheels.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: sbufan on November 15, 2011, 01:30:39 pm
Liberty's OOC schedule next year will be very difficult:
@ Wake Forest
vs Lehigh (Patriot League champ 2 years running)
vs Norfolk St (MEAC champ)
another game which hasn't been confirmed yet against an FCS power

If we come through all of that plus conference play with only 2 losses I'll be doing cartwheels.

The last game is against richmond right? And then the 5th out of conference would be a d2? I'd expect you guys to go 3 and 2 out of conference with that schedule and then one loss in the big south and hopefully you would get an at large.

Stony Brook 2012 ooc looks like this
@Army
@Marshall or Cincinatti I forget which
Central connecticut
Colgate

I think 2012 will be a special team for Stony Brook. I think 1 out of conference loss is a real possibility. The big loss to graduation is Jackolski who without question is a special player, but I think Cruz will step into that role quite nicely. Cruz has 330 yards (averaging 11.1 ypc) and 4 touchdowns in his 30 carries this season. With 4 offensive lineman and all of our tight ends/fullbacks returning, I don't think the running game will miss a beat. Essington comes back with more experience and veteran recievers in Norrell and Gush.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ry1nik on November 15, 2011, 01:40:45 pm
Regarding Jackolski (maybe this  belongs in another thread)ó he may in fact have a shot at the NFL. He's a bit undersized for a running back, but his speed (I heard 4.3) and his stats could get him selected...at least on special teams.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 15, 2011, 01:57:31 pm
Guys, why are we getting so ahead of ourselves. We have the biggest game in the Big South conference season four days away and ya are already talking about next year!! Relax!!! Lets enjoy the moment. lol

I think the time is perfect to make our picks for saturday:

SB 42 - LU 38

GO SEAWOLVES!!!!!

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(I've come to the conclusion that in order for this conference to get two bids, every league team will have to face at least two top FCS teams to increase its level of play... or that SB and Liberty both go 9-2 or 8-3 which is unlikely due to the early season guarantee games. SB and LU are quality teams but we need the respect conference-wide in order to justify our at-large berth eligibility)
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ry1nik on November 15, 2011, 02:05:24 pm
OK e-, I'll return to the game, but still regarding Jackolskió Last year Liberty stopped kicking to him because he burned them a few times on kickoff/punts...including for a touchdown. It'll be interesting to see if they give him a chance this year, or start off kicking out of bounds from the start.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Knucklehead on November 15, 2011, 02:23:55 pm
We do not play Richmond until 2013 and 2014.  The Mystery team is going to be awesome I hear.

Anyway I guess we are making picks now.  I hadn't given the score a lot of thought till now.  I am not sure why everyone feels that the RBs that a lesser LU defense held down pretty well last year are going to go nuts.  Don't forget that LU's run D may be the best you have faced all year based on the stats.  I think they will get some good yards but they will not go as nuts as they have for the last few weeks.  I think this game comes down to us being tight enough in the passing game that you guys have to ruly on the run which we will slow down significantly.  Then it comes down to Mike Brown and company with our Passing offense and Mike Brown and company with our run game. 

I think some folks who thought LU would beat SBU a few weeks ago are now reading too much into the last few weeks for both LU and SBU and some are flip flopping.  Liberty was very banged up in those 2 games and played down to their opponets and WON.  SBU was mostly healthy and took care of business handily.  Let's not forget that LU was an all american kicker shy of beating JMU and likely Lehigh.  I believe we have the better all around team as I did at the start of the season.

We are where we thought we would be with both undefeated in conference, and I can't wait for this game!

I say we end up with: Liberty - 42 SBU 28 
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 15, 2011, 02:36:30 pm
Honestly. I just threw my score in there. I didn't think much of it. My only requirement was that Stony Brook played out to be the winner. Everything else i skipped! lol

Thats the awesomeness of picks right there!

As you said, it all depends how much LU contains Stony Brook's running offense. Depending how that goes, we might have to use more of our passing game. Even though I like the passing game better than early in the season, much improved, its obvious that relying on the passing game will get us out of comfort zone . For a team that has been running all season long to have to switch up in the last game is not the best that can happen...

Still, Im confident that the outcome will be favorable for Stony Brook and that Liberty wont be as successful as last year defending against this. I can see it in my eyes already as hundreds rush the field after the Big win (similar to sundays Soccer Championship victory) for our Football program. hehehe

Btw, Knucklehead thanks for being here, it adds to the discussion. Makes it more interesting.

Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: jcmanson on November 15, 2011, 02:49:24 pm
Our All-American Kicker has been hurt off and on since the JMU game. Since then we've used our backup kicker for all kickoffs. He doesn't have nearly the leg of Matt Bevins. He generally gets the ball to the 10-15 and to be honest our kickoff coverage has been suspect all year. I really hope we gameplan well for this facet of the game as it could be huge.

Also, our kick returner, Kevin Fogg, leads the country with 3 kickoff returns for touchdowns. Both teams are top 5 in the country in kickoff returns and may be #1 and #2.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Knucklehead on November 15, 2011, 02:51:55 pm
You are welcome and JC is right.  And please tell me if you win it will be more than hundreds rushing the field.   How many do you expect to be there.  I'm coming!
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: jcmanson on November 15, 2011, 03:05:25 pm
They had "hundreds" rush the field in 2009 when they beat us.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 15, 2011, 03:36:45 pm
well. The attendance should be 4-8k. Close to the average attendance which is 5k. But not many people rush the field. I'm one of the crazy one that rushes the field in any win that can be "deemed" significant, usually 100-200 other ones join. I know many criticize those that rush the field for any game, But I enjoy it, its fun and its something different. And this is surely a special game for Stony Brook football.

btw JC, I wasn't in the 2009 game so I don't know if you are being sarcastic or not... How was that game? did you attend it?
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: jcmanson on November 15, 2011, 03:46:12 pm
I don't have a problem with people rushing the field in meaningful games. This certainly is a meaningful game. There's no problem with whoever wins and their fans rushing the field.

Yes I was at the game in 09. It was a very evenly contested ball game. Exciting except for the outcome. I was not being sarcastic. SBU fans rushed the field at the end. That's fine. That was your first win over a ranked opponent.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: sbufan on November 15, 2011, 04:03:06 pm
Liberty's run defense numbers are inflated for two reasons: They only gave up 8 yards rushing against Kentucky Wesleyan and they haven't played Stony Brook. If you take those two factors out of the equation Liberty looks like the fifth best run defense behind Utep, Buffalo, Brown, and Gardner Webb, and only just ahead of CCU and Lafayette. No one has stopped Stony Brook from running the ball this season, and it hasn't mattered how many players were in the box. Our passing game is seriously underrated, and I think they'll surprise you as well.

I think both teams defenses have trouble stopping the opposing offense, but the turnover margin will favor Stony Brook. Stony Brook wins by two scores.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: sbufan on November 15, 2011, 04:06:21 pm
I'm thinking around 6k thousand fans. It won't draw as many students as homecoming, but I'm hoping a championship game will draw more local fans than a season opener against Brown.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: risch on November 15, 2011, 09:17:26 pm
Stony Brook's passing game hasn't really been tested that much.  But I believe it's solid, especially considering it will be Brevi's last game.  And last time we beat liberty, I was in the band so i couldn't rush, but nothing it stopping me this year
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Seawolf97 on November 15, 2011, 09:22:07 pm
Go for it !
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: sbufan on November 16, 2011, 12:59:44 am
Emory Hunt likes Stony Brook to win
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck4QMgklisI
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Knucklehead on November 16, 2011, 08:44:50 am
Emory who?

And if you want to join us LU fans as we rush the field, go for it.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ry1nik on November 16, 2011, 08:56:12 am
All good-natured joshing aside, neither side should feel overly optimistic about the outcome of the game. While a case could be made that the two teams are evenly matched, a case could also be made that Liberty looks a little better on paper (and I'm a Seawolf). But that "little better" is neutralized by SB's home field advantage. The game is a toss up. Any win by more than 10 points would be a surprise to me.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Sly Fox on November 16, 2011, 09:18:36 am
I agree wholeheartedly, ry1nik.  I have no idea what to expect outside of a tight ballgame like we saw twonyears ago at LaValle.

As for Emory, I love the pic of him in the old USL gear.  I'm not sure whether he knows Big South football but if he went to school in Lafayette he knows Cajun food.  If younare ever passing through Lafayette on I-10, Prejeans is a must stop.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Knucklehead on November 16, 2011, 09:39:33 am
I guess where I'm coming from is I have seen both teams quite a bit, and if anyone wins by 2 scores it will be LU.  We have a very explosive offense, aggressive defense, and the #1 kick returner in the nation. 
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: jcmanson on November 16, 2011, 09:45:13 am
I agree with your post ry1nik. If Liberty was at home, I would feel very confident. Being on the road makes it much more of a toss-up in my mind. And like you said I do believe Liberty is the better team on paper. What does that mean for Saturday? Nothing. It should be a great game.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: sbufan on November 16, 2011, 09:52:44 am
I actually think Stony Brook is the better team , but it evens out because Liberty matches up well against Stony Brook. I think it's going to come down to turnovers, and I think Liberty will turn the ball over more.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Knucklehead on November 16, 2011, 12:30:10 pm
FCS beat writer Chris Lang on Twitter:
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Funny how one game skews stats. Stony Brook was +6 in turnovers vs. G-Webb, +7 in its other nine games.
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Liberty was -5 in turnovers against N.C. State but is +4 in its other nine games.

So again stop putting so much weight on the last few games either way.  This will be a great one.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Knucklehead on November 16, 2011, 12:44:39 pm
Also just saw this from Lang as well, WOW:

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Another wow stat: Stony Brook hasn't attempted a field goal in its last five games and hasn't made a field goal since September.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: sbufan on November 16, 2011, 12:48:43 pm
Teams have to stop Stony Brook in the red zone for them to attempt a field goal.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: risch on November 16, 2011, 01:07:47 pm
And Skiffy is stony brook's all time points leader.  He's a shitty punter, but a damn good field goal kicker.  (just overlook the brown game)
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Knucklehead on November 16, 2011, 01:22:16 pm
thought you guys might like this very fair breakdown.
http://www2.newsadvance.com/sports/2011/nov/16/stony-brook-liberty-matchup-breakdown-ar-1463518/ (http://www2.newsadvance.com/sports/2011/nov/16/stony-brook-liberty-matchup-breakdown-ar-1463518/)

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Seven matchups. Three go to Stony Brook. Three go to Liberty. One push. Tough game to pick, for sure.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: sbufan on November 16, 2011, 02:17:19 pm
I'm pretty jealous of the coverage you guys get with Chris Lang.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: jcmanson on November 16, 2011, 02:25:24 pm
Yeah Chris is great
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Knucklehead on November 16, 2011, 04:27:42 pm
the best there is!
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 17, 2011, 01:37:39 pm
Sports Network Released an article of the showdowns on Saturday!

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2%2Fmisc%2Fshapiro%2Farchive%2Fshapiro_11_17_2011.htm
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: InsideMan on November 17, 2011, 02:14:07 pm
Ticket sales are at an all-time high.  We are anticipating a homecoming kind of crowd.

-One student will leave the game with a FREE TUITION
-One student will leave the game with a FREE MEAL PLAN
-One student will have the chance to drive home in a 2012 Toyota Camry.

Students can sign up at the tailgate from 1-3
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Knucklehead on November 17, 2011, 02:41:14 pm
Here are the regional/national TV/radio options for the game:

ESPN3.com - National Coverage
 (Web-based internet stream from ESPN)
 Game Will be Carried Live

MASN - Local/Regional Coverage
 Game Will be Carried Live
 Direct TV - Channel 640
 Dish Network - Channel 432

JCTV - National Coverage
 Game Will be Carried on a Delayed Basis

Christian Television Network - Regional Coverage
 Game Will be Carried Live

Additional Live Coverage:
 WFMZ - Channel 69 (Philadelphia, Pa.)
 

For those in Lynchburg, it's on RTV13.2 and WTLU
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 17, 2011, 03:05:48 pm
InsideMan, I'm glad to hear that ticket sales are high. I gotta buy one for my gf coming over. This will be even a better game if we can have a great turnout from both teams.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 17, 2011, 03:10:28 pm
Some press coverage by Newsday:

http://www.newsday.com/sports/college/college-football/stony-brook-faces-must-win-game-1.3327514
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: rogers3 on November 17, 2011, 08:11:06 pm
I'm really excited about this game; I wouldn't be at all surprised by LU being looked at as the underdog here, but for the first time in a long time, we will see a Big South go to the playoffs with some real potential for advancement.  SB is a fun team to watch on the highlight reels and I, like most LU fans are looking for a close, well played game.  It is also refreshing to have a final game that can result in something positive and know that our players aren't going to assume that the opponent will lay down for them.  There have been too many letdowns like that in the past.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Seawolf97 on November 17, 2011, 09:58:23 pm
Agreed  -this is going to be a good one. Looks like the weather will be cool but clear. Probably around 55-58 at kick off.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: aseawolf on November 18, 2011, 03:03:55 pm
National coverage on the NY Times website:
http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/18/in-big-south-final-game-means-something-again/

Predictions? Where does everyone stand on this one?
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 18, 2011, 03:37:56 pm
good coverage by NYT
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 18, 2011, 03:48:21 pm
Well... The day we have all been waiting for is almost here.

Tomorrow I will tail-gate, dress in red, and be another Seawolf out there hoping the best for our team to win it all!

My pick stands at: 42-38

It seems to me that there will be a good amount of people in attendance. Through word of mouth I've heard students talking about it and that means there's awareness. If there's awareness that usually means a good turnout.

Go Seawolves!
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 18, 2011, 08:04:55 pm
Coach Priore releases his 12th letter:

http://www.goseawolves.org/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/111811aaa.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 19, 2011, 06:42:35 pm
congrats to SB football- nice win today!!!
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 19, 2011, 07:12:51 pm
Big South champs. Go Seawolves. Best football atmosphere ever here at the Brook! 8-3, 6-0!!!!
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 19, 2011, 07:45:50 pm
ecasado- you called 42-38, not far off!!!
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 19, 2011, 08:12:19 pm
yeah. Fairly close. I expected a closer game. 42 has been the Stony Brook mark all season long. I'll take 41 though. We are champs. A huge step for Stony Brook football. the future is bright. We are competitive in the FCS, six years ago when we first offered scholarships we dreamed of this day. Today we are here


Stony Brook football is here to stay. The support from Long Islanders today was huge. Hopefully we can get a Stony Brook vs Albany (Both conference champions) here at Stony Brook next weekend!
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: jaghatai on November 19, 2011, 09:12:53 pm
My thoughts...

Special teams was huge for both sides.  In the first half Liberty wouldn't kick anywhere near Jackolski, and it led to short fields.

SBU's secondary in the first half was taken by surprise by the speed of the Liberty WR/RB's.  They took some really bad lines, and it made things rough.  At halftime, they made a few adjustments, and started running a deeper zone, which slowed down the air attack (slightly, but it was enough).

Another adjustment was when SBU started using Brock as a nickel corner.  That was a wrinkle which was able to shut down the third WR, and took away a few route options.  One of those routes was a hot read that made Brown pull the ball down on the play where he lost the first fumble.

Chris Summers (#1) is a beast.  This game would have been over in the first half if he wasn't there.

The 2 fumbles both were caused by great hustle plays where the first defender was able to hold him up, and two or three defenders came in sniping for the ball.  Those were the two biggest plays in the game.

In 20+ years of watching football, I've never seen a facemask penalty called against a QB.  That had to be the weirdest call I've seen.

Great game, both teams played their hearts out, and in the end, the team that made less mistakes ended up winning.  A few breaks go the other way and this ends up completely differently.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 19, 2011, 09:29:20 pm
with all due respect to our previous quarterback. But personally I think Essington has been the best thing that has happened to Stony Brook this year. Of course, I didn't want Coulter to end his days with an injury. But Essington got the chance he needed to prove he can play. He has done a great Job this year. Well deserved!
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: sbufan on November 19, 2011, 09:43:18 pm
I was very surprised to see Brock in our Nickel package. I just read on flamefans someone suggest that we were the more talented team. I don't think that's the case. I think we take advantage of the talent we have. We lose the game today if we don't have Brock and Miguel playing on special teams, and Brock playing both sides of the ball. We have some great talent and some great coaches that capitalize on the talent available.

Essington is talented and I think he's only going to get better. I wish he had redshirted last year because I think he's going to prove to be very good player for us (if he's not already).
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: sbufan on November 19, 2011, 09:47:33 pm
To be clear though, we have terrific talent everywhere and I think we can surprise some teams in the playoffs. I just don't think we're necessarily more talented than Liberty.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 19, 2011, 09:54:18 pm
SBU has a chance for a second round in the FCS in my eyes. I believe we can do it! One game at a time!

I'm so proud of what SBU is accomplishing this year. Last year was the year of heartbreaks. This year we are pulling to the next level. I hope we can continue the trend the rest of the year
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 19, 2011, 09:56:11 pm
Every time Liberty dropped back for a pass, there always seemed to be receivers open.  It was getting frustrating that we were either in a soft zone or couldnt cover m2m.  Its not surprising Liberty has been at the top of this league for so many years now.

So whats next?  Selection show tomorrow?  Game next saturday?  Possibly home?  I think there's about 14 conferences in FCS, not sure all get an auto bid, im sure there's some at large bids, etc.  Can someone fill me in on this?
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 19, 2011, 10:12:04 pm
7,896 fans only? todays game look more packed that Homecoming.

I'm currently updating some wikipedia stuff. Just found out that Stony Brook surpassed its overall season attendance with 30,763. For the first time since opening year we gathered more than 27,000 people to our games. Thats always good. Average attendance was 5,102

Something to be proud of. Little by little we getting there.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 19, 2011, 10:29:39 pm
actually- found this- might be helpful: http://www2.newsadvance.com/sports/2011/nov/13/projecting-fcs-playoff-field-one-week-out-ar-1456521/

this too: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/11/19/in-fcs-huddle-fcs-playoff-field-comes-into-focus/
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: sbufan on November 19, 2011, 10:54:07 pm
Here's one prediction http://www.sportsnetwork.com/fcs/FCS_Bracket.pdf

However, I think there's a really good chance that we host Albany next weekend. We will almost definitely have to play next weekend before going to one of the top 4 seeds.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 20, 2011, 01:31:23 am
one more question: Are we finally going to crack the Coaches Poll and Sports Network poll?
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: ry1nik on November 20, 2011, 09:27:29 am
I hope we do get Albany, SBUfan. For most of the season, Albany was actually receiving more votes in various polls than SB...go figure. It would be nice to put that to bed.
Title: Re: 2011: Game 11 - SBU vs Liberty 11/19 (BSC Auto-bid)
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 20, 2011, 10:02:37 am
SB draws Albany!!!!  Start a new thread?