Seawolves Fans
Athletics => SBU Football => Topic started by: sbufan on October 31, 2011, 10:13:25 am
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I know we're heading into November with a possible Big South Championship on the line so this isn't the best time to be looking into future seasons, but I think we should have a thread keeping track of future opponents.
2012 (I know I'm missing an FBS game. Marshall? We will most likely pay another d2 for a home game. For the last game I would like to schedule a home and away series with UNH, but would very much like to have any CAA team on the schedule. This is just wishful thinking though)
@Army
Central Connecticut
Colgate
@ Liberty
@Coastal
@Presbyterian
Gardner Webb
Charleston Southern
VMI
2013
@BC
@Buffalo
@Colgate
Brown
2014
@Cincy
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I hope we can quit playing DII teams. Its time to schedule DI the whole season. Teams that people have heard of. I know we want the extra home game. But maybe we can get an extra home-away series instead of playing a DII team like St.Anselm
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Also, I really like the Central Connecticut game. We should schedule more local teams (albany, UNH, Maine, Monmouth,etc) like that and continue the two FBS per season.
The BC game is awesome. I will travel up to Boston to see that one for sure. Tough team
Like the Army game. Its a game we can drive up to watch.
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On other boards Colgate will visit StonyBrook in 2012 and we will travel to Colgate in 2013. Also Brown will return to StonyBrook in 2013.
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I love the brown series. It's always a really close matchup between our schools, and its given us some of the most exciting games I've ever seen here. I also like the CCSU series geographically, but the last time we played them, it was just a slaughter.
Both of these schools have also brought good crowds and marching bands. I'd love to see both series continue.
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Any good rumors on who our last two games will be against in 2012?
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I Have no clue... I just want the schedule to be released already!!!
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Just saw on twitter that Stony Brook fans can expect to see the 2012 football schedule early next week. Can't wait.
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You said next week. I'm still waiting anxiously. I hope it gets released any day now!!
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Can only hope no D2 teams for a home game.
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Hopefully no D-2 after such a great season. We need a stronger schedule if we want to be taken seriously this upcoming season. A St.Anselm type team wont do...
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Just heard for 2012:
Pace
CCSU
@Cuse
@Army
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pace... oh c'mon... god sakes
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This should be the last year of filling in the Hofstra slot, so moving forward our schedule should get better.
I like what I see for 2012. The 'Cuse and Army games are your typical FBS games. They are big names, look great on paper, aren't exactly great teams, but should beat us. If we can keep it close it's awesome. If we can sneak a win, thats spectacular.
Colgate, Pace, and CCSU are very winnable games, and the conference schedule is standard.
That gives us 9 very winnable games out of 11. Given everything, I still believe that to get in the playoffs we either need to win the conference, or if we lose a game in conference, we'd need to beat one of the FBS teams to get an at-large berth. Going to be another fun year!
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Syracuse and Army are two good FBS teams to schedule specially cuz they are higher chances of them being on TV. Thats a smart move by Stony Brook. I'm sure that the Cuse game should be broadcasted at least regionally most likely on SNY. The Army game also has chances of being carried on TV, maybe MSG or MSG+ considering the recent success of Stony Brook football and the popularity of Army football. Both games can be attended by our fan base in more significant numbers than if it was at Florida (USF) or Texas (UTEP). Good move by Stony Brook.
In my eyes, the only blemish is the Pace game. We need to schedule Division I all games if we want to be taken serious nationally. The Big South in general needs a stronger schedule and scheduling teams like Pace doesn't help. Despite me disliking the Pace, I will have to say that I prefer that over a team like St.Anselm. Pace is local, so that helps. Pace is widely known in the metro area and may drag a few extra fans into the game considering the St.Anselm game was less than half full...who that hell knows St.Anselm?
Hopefully by 2013 we can have a all-Division I schedule, that'll be a huge move and would continue the upward trajectory of SB Football. Stony Brook football is looking bright and its on a good path. Go Seawolves
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All army games were on TV:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Army_Black_Knights_football_team
Thats a good thing
All Cuse games were on TV:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Syracuse_Orange_football_team
Thats two TV games for almost for sure in the regular season. We haven't had a TV game since USF in 2010.
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Damn, I just had a burst of excitement for the upcoming season. It f'cking sucks that we have to wait so long for SB football.
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I don't see the Pace game as a problem. If SB has to rely on an at-large berth (hope they don't), then I think a lack of LOSSES instead of total wins against FCS teams carries more weight. It shouldn't, but the committee seems to penalize losses more than it rewards wins. A win against either Syracuse or Army is possible (Sam Houston is rated higher than both of them). A game against Pace would give the Wolves somewhat of a bye week. Win an FCS game, lose no more than two games in total, and they would get in.
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I don't see the Pace game as a problem. If SB has to rely on an at-large berth (hope they don't), then I think a lack of LOSSES instead of total wins against FCS teams carries more weight. It shouldn't, but the committee seems to penalize losses more than it rewards wins. A win against either Syracuse or Army is possible (Sam Houston is rated higher than both of them). A game against Pace would give the Wolves somewhat of a bye week. Win an FCS game, lose no more than two games in total, and they would get in.
The FCS Playoff Committee has not relied on any "threshold" of any sort EXCEPT for a hard 7-D1 win threshold. Given our cupcake schedule and 2 FBS opponent mandate, we cripple ourselves in this area - basically requiring an undefeated FCS OOC and an FBS win to qualify for the playoffs. Given that there are 3 brand new FCS programs that are D1 counters looking for opponents (including local Rhode Island program Bryant), there should have been no problem finding a replacement for Hofstra years in advance. This was a total failure by the administration in my eyes.
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Pace ? Are they a D2 or a D3 ? Syracuse is a good pick up and we knew about Army.
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Stony Brook wants to play two FBS games a year. I assume this is to help recruiting, build the "brand", and bring in money. But they want to balance out the schedule so they're going to pay two teams to come to lavalle. This year it's CCSU and Pace. NEC teams our cheap to pay for money games because they're not FBS counters (don't offer enough scholarships to count towards bowl eligibility), and similarly D2's are even cheaper because they don't count towards FCS playoff eligibility. The football program doesn't generate enough revenue to afford to bring in two D1's at the moment, so we'll most likely have a D2 on the schedule for the foreseeable future.
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Love the Cuse and Army games though
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Checked Pace's 2012 schedule - they will be here on 9/8. They are a D2 program .
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schedule released by newsday:
http://www.newsday.com/sports/college/stony-brook/stony-brook-to-play-syracuse-army-in-2012-1.3496668
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I'll tell you, Syracuse fans are downright ignorant. They are bashing the Seawolves over at their board. I weighed in-- you may want to also.
http://blog.syracuse.com/orangefootball/2012/02/post_146.html
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isn't syracuse football trashy? they sucked for a while now for the exception of that meaningless pinstripe bowl win...
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i checked the blog... sounds like a lo of frustration from the fans... that wat happens when your team can't compete in the fbs year in year out... I don't blame them for their ignorance... Soon enough they will know about us!!!!!!
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Is it possible that the reason that Stony Brook chose to have no Bye-week is because they assuming to reach they playoff and want a bigger break?
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No bye week is a function of the conference schedule. Technically, our "bye week" is Nov 17.
Our conference has 7 teams, so each week, one conference team has a "bye". Last year, Coastal had the "last bye", Liberty "second to last", etc.
We're the champs (awesome), so we get the "last bye", which is Nov 17. We could have tried to fill that with a non-conference game, but thats a really tough slot to fill.
I love the idea of a bye week going into the playoffs, or even better, if we can dominate, we could end up with two bye weeks going into the playoffs...
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Just read on the Buffalo News that SBU will play at Buffalo again, in 2013.
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That soon enough will be our new rivalry. good that we playing them. Stony is making a smooth transition to the MAC east. Its all planned out and we don't even realize... hahahaha.j/k
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It only makes sense we play the Bulls. The two biggest of the state schools should compete against each other. So 2013 sizes up as Buffalo and Boston College. Good schedule again !
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Just checked and we are at Buffalo 9/14/2013 and Boston College . So no specualtion next year about FBS teams unless we play 3 -LOL
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yeah. i saw it in the news article... i think those are two regional fbs teams that we should play. good move by SBU. We should continue scheduling more regional FBS teams.
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Love it. Props to the athletic department for landing regional opponents for the next two years with a one bcs game each year and one somewhat winnable game each year.
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So a good part of our 2013 schedule seems in place .
Home - Brown plus three Big South games
Away - Boston College, Buffalo, Colgate and three Big South games. I think 2013 is a 12 game season for FCS programs . We have 10 already .
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The Brook is getting some ink...
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2%2Fwriters%2Finfcshuddle%2Farchive%2Fhaley_4_7_2012.htm
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Good info as usual JoeWillie. Write it down now the Brook beats Army and we tailgait all day.
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Wasn't Cincy on the schedule at some point?
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I saw not long ago that we still have a game scheduled with Cincy, but I can't remember if it was 2013 or 2014. It should still be in the works though.
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Boston College and Buffalo will be on our schedule in 2013. So I'm guessing Cincy and a team to be announced will be on our schedule in 2014. Like the press by the way.
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I'm glad Cincy vs SBU is still in the plans.
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post/_/id/34010/time-to-beef-up-nonconference-schedules
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Some folks said this would happen. Hopefully Cincy doesnt buy us out and reschedule someone else. It is not so much getting a win for them now as getting a quality win or close loss.
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For 2012, i think we can reasonably go 9-2 this year.
Date Opponent / Event Location Time / Result
Sat., Sep. 1 vs. Central Connecticut Stony Brook, N.Y. 6:00 p.m. ET
Sat., Sep. 8 vs. Pace Stony Brook, N.Y. 6:00 p.m. ET
Sat., Sep. 15 at Syracuse TV Syracuse, N.Y. 4:00 p.m. ET
Sat., Sep. 22 vs. Colgate Stony Brook, N.Y. 6:00 p.m. ET
Sat., Sep. 29 at Army TV West Point, N.Y. 12:00 p.m. ET
Sat., Oct. 6 vs. Charleston Southern Stony Brook, N.Y. 6:00 p.m. ET
Sat., Oct. 13 at Coastal Carolina * TV Conway, S.C. TBA
Sat., Oct. 20 vs. Gardner-Webb * Stony Brook, N.Y. 4:00 p.m. ET
Sat., Oct. 27 at Presbyterian * TV Clinton, S.C. 1:00 p.m. ET
Sat., Nov. 3 vs. VMI * Stony Brook, N.Y. 6:00 p.m. ET
Sat., Nov. 10 at Liberty * Lynchburg, Va. 3:30 p.m. ET
Army beat NW last year, but otherwise had gaping holes in its defense. That game could be a track meet for us. It might really be the best team we play during the regular season.
Cuse has us in between USC and Minnesota. Last year they beat Wake and surprisingly beat up WVU in the dome. Otherwise, losses to every team in the Big East. It looks like they really struggle on the road, but we play them inside the Dome.
Liberty is always a good game so that one i think will be unpredictable, especially down in Lynchburg. Coastal might be a threat this year too, we travel to them in mid-Oct.
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How does this affect our future non conference scheduling? The plan while SBU was in the Big South was to play 2 FBS games a year, but 2 money games plus an 8 game CAA schedule would make it very difficult to get to the required 7 wins for at large consideration. Also, we are rumored to already have 4 games scheduled for 2013: @Buffalo, @BC, @Colgate, and Brown. If true I'm guessing we'll buy our way out of Colgate contract to balance our home and away games in 13.
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You are probably right. But I think next year is an FCS 12 game season if we want it. So maybe Colgate will be a go. Good news no D2 programs to beat up !
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I believe I also heard of the 12 game season. Just like the FBS
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Priore announces in the Big South Weekly teleconference that we are playing Uconn in 2014. Was this previously known?
http://www.goseawolves.org/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/091112aaa.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
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Just listened in on the conference call. We have UConn and Temple coming up . The Owls are another Big East school. I guess Cincy dropped us for 2014 or we backed out for local powers. Pretty cool any way you look at it.
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Just listened in on the conference call. We have UConn and Temple coming up . The Owls are another Big East school. I guess Cincy dropped us for 2014 or we backed out for local powers. Pretty cool any way you look at it.
Is 2014 a 12 game schedule year? Perhaps we have 3?
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We won't be playing 3 div 1 teams, 2 is usually the limit. If we do play 12 gms do not be suprised if they do keep a div 2 team on the schedule, it would mean an extra home game. With the two D1 road games that would leave us w/4 conf home gms and 4 road gms. Whether they play 11 or 12 gms those would probably be lesser comp teams at home. While they continue to grow the program they are going to want at least 5 or 6 home gms a year. As far as strength of schedule goes they are playing 2 D1 teams a year and 8 CAA conf gms so that is plenty, with that you need to have a few easy wins cause you can't count on winning those D1 gms.
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Redwyn: Just listened to the link for the Coach's conference radio call and heard the mention of Temple. If Stony Brook plays Temple at the Linc I would definitely be able to bring 50 fans to the game, minimum.
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It seems like SB football wiki page has wrong information in regard to future schedules.
2013: OOC @Boston college, @Buffalo and @Colgate. Brown's future schedule does not have us for 2013.
2014: OOC Cincinnati; Temple does not have us for next three years in their future ooc schedule. Couldn't find UConn's 2014 schedule anywhere though.
Are we playing a total of 11 or 12 games in 2013?
How will 11 members, 8 games CAA scheduling look/work?
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Maybe the games got pushed back. From our understanding those games were scheduled. We'll find out in a few months
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As for the CAA schedule we should play 4 CAA teams at home. Two from the CAA North and two from the South. Same with our CAA road games two northern teams and two south. The CAA is not naming North- South Divisions . So unofficially -
North - Stonybrook, Albany, Maine, UNH and Rhode Island.
South- Villanova, Towson, Delaware. James Madison, Richmond and William & Mary.
I will try and verify that Brown game for next year
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We now know for sure that we will be playing Richmond @ SBU.
They have their schedule out already.. cant wait to see ours!
http://www.richmondspiders.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=26800&ATCLID=205828419
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Someone wrote on another forum:
"With an 11-team CAA and keeping a 8-game conference schedule, I assume the CAA is using the old BigTen model.
Each team is assigned 2 "rivals" which would be played every year, and you would skip a pair opponents from the remaining 8 teams for a 2-year period."
Who could be our assigned rivals? Hopefully Albany and UNH, but most probably Albany and URI based on approximity.
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Such an odd way to do it. I actually think the new B1G model is better; split to two divisions, play your division (which in turn creates rivalries), rotate around the other side of the league.
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I just hope we have an away game @Towson.. Its the only game I can go to within an hour from montgomery county, MD.
And hopefully can catch one game @SBU during one of my regular NY visits.
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no game against UD;
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20121218/SPORTS07/121218014/UD-announces-2013-football-schedule
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Well the article say's that fcs teams will be allowed to play 12 regular season gms in 2013 and 14 because of an extra weekend in the calender between labor day and thanksgiving. That might mean an extra non conference home gm for SBU, hopefully not against a D-2 team.
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Ouch. I would've love to have Albany and Delaware at home. I guess not...
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this is the 2013 schedule so far:
8/31:
9/7:
9/14: @Buffalo
9/21:
9/28: @Colgate
10/5:
10/12:
10/19:
10/26:
11/2:
11/9: Richmond
11/16:
11/23: Albany
??/??: @ Boston College
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this is the 2013 schedule so far:
8/31:
9/7:
9/14: @Buffalo
9/21:
9/28: @Colgate
10/5:
10/12:
10/19:
10/26: New Hampshire
11/2:
11/9: Richmond
11/16:
11/23: Albany
??/??: @ Boston College; probably 9/7
UNH will be a big home game. They are good.
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thanks for the schedule update. as other schools release their schedules, we ca piece together SBU's schedule. Richmond will be a challenging game also.
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just search twitter for #caafb once a day and you will find a tons of information :)
btw, SBathletics said "we will release our schedule when we announce our incoming recruiting class in early february".
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I believe they are getting some JC commits starting today.
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This will probably be the toughest schedule we ever played. Good test for us though as long as no D-2 schools show up.
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I'm glad Albany (from what i see above) will be at home and our last game. That means we probably will have atleast two guaranteed sellout crowds (Homecoming+ Albany)... Fantastic!!!
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Gotta renovate those Season tickets by the way. This upcoming season is gonna be great!!!!!!
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This is the 2013 schedule so far:
8/31: @ Boston College
9/7:
9/14: @Buffalo
9/21:
9/28: @Colgate
10/5:
10/12:
10/19:
10/26: New Hampshire
11/2:
11/9: Richmond
11/16:
11/23: Albany
Greg Logan confirms on twitter about Boston College FB opener on 8/31. Tough two away games to start the season!
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Did the Brown game fallout of our schedule? wikip wasn't too far off
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We are not playing any IVY League teams next two years at least. Check out page2 (they play 10 games schedule):
http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/sports/fball/2012-13/media_guide/12fbguide-Intro.pdf
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So far a great schedule. Playing two FBS foes once again! Awesome. Winnable games!
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Yes! Exciting schedule. FBS games are definitely winnable. They both had losing seasons. As of now Sagarin has this ranking:
123 Boston College (2-10)
128 Stony Brook (10-3)
137 Buffalo (4-8)
They also might ignite regional rivalry and more interest. These two games will also provide good preparation for tough CAA schedule. In Big South there was only one tough team, Liberty. In CAA we will play UNH and Richmond.. probably also Towson and JMU. Much tougher schedule than Big South.
Great to end with Albany! This will be our constant fixture each year. Rivalry week. We will host the game every other year.
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Costal carolina is another tough big south team. they showed a lot of talent this year. i can't wait to see the S/B vs B/C game. Looks like me and the family will be making the trip up North !!!!
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Love that we got Buffalo back. While I agree it is a winable game they did steamroll us 2 years ago.
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They did. Reignite the SUNY Showdown!!!
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thanks for the updates, very exciting news on the schedule.
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Just a note. Army came from behind and beat Boston College this year at Army. We all know how we did up at West point. BuffaloGotta have hope. did beat us pretty bad 35-7 but Coulter was hurt that day and Essington came in the next week. It was Coulters last game. So maybe two FBS wins in 2013 ?
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Our team was different back them. we did get beat pretty easily by Buffalo but I think our program is more more established and our team Believes that they could win FBS games like they did against Army. Buffalo is consistently a terrible team in the FBS and I'm sure we can pull the "upset".
Boston College would probably be a more difficult task but not impossible. The Brook is a top team in the FCS and these upsets will happen more often.
Its amazing how our schedule keeps getting better and better. Look back to 2005-07 and the difference is huge
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Our team was different back them. we did get beat pretty easily by Buffalo but I think our program is more more established and our team Believes that they could win FBS games like they did against Army. Buffalo is consistently a terrible team in the FBS and I'm sure we can pull the "upset".
Don't be fooled, though. We had arguably the toughest schedule in the MAC and at one point the 5th most difficult in FBS. Georgia (obvious). NIU (Orange Bowl), Kent St (would have also made the Orange Bowl if they had won the MAC), and 4 other bowl teams. UConn on the road was a tough, close loss. We beat the 4 teams we should have. It will be more manageable to make bowl eligibility in 2013 (SBU, UConn, EMU, UMass, Ohio, BGSU at home, Ohio St, Baylor, Toledo, Kent St, Miami, WMU on the road).
The key for us next season is losing just 12 Sr's, with only 2 Offensive starters gone. 16 starters and all special-teamers return. All QB's who played return as will 97% of rushing yards, 99.7% of receiving yards, 100% of points scored, and 15 of our top 20 tacklers. Oliver our RB who burned your D will be a Sr. Khalil Mack, soon an NFL draft pick who was a 1-man pass-rush against your OL, will be a Sr. In comparison, your Seawolves will have many more unknowns and holes to fill in your 2-deep.
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We can both play that game though recovering hillbilly. Stony Brook will have 4 of 5 of its starting offensive linemen back from the last matchup where Stony Brook ran for 184 yards when these kids were only freshman and sophomores. Imagine what they'll do to Buffalo next year when the offensive line is all grown and blocking for a former all Big Ten back.
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Hillbilly sounds like a desperate man and very nervous. Why else would he be posting on this SBU Fan Forum ?? S/B will put a whooping on Buffalo next year just like they did to Army and very close to beating orange. Every year S/B Football team gets better, bigger and stronger. Look out Buffalo, Seawolves Football team is not that little kid in the park. They are for real and 2012 season proved it !!! :P :P :P
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This is the 2013 schedule so far:
8/31: @ Boston College
9/7:
9/14: @Buffalo
9/21:
9/28: Towson
10/5:
10/12:
10/19:
10/26: New Hampshire
11/2:
11/9: Richmond
11/16:
11/23: Albany
@Colgate ???
Both Colgate and Towson is scheduled to play us on 9/28. I guess Towson is the correct schedule.
http://www.towsontigers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=101455&SPID=12497&DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=205844951&DB_OEM_ID=21300
http://www.gocolgateraiders.com/sports/2010/9/6/FB_0906103621.aspx?path=football
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No desperation here. I signed up here months ago mostly to talk reallignment. I've been a main booster for SBU to become a MAC FB only member for a while on the MAC message boards. UB's leadership & AD have a great relationship with SBU, far more than the other doctoral SUNYs.
No smack here regarding our games, just analysis. We return just about all our key pieces, including those sophs who dominated in 2011. You were able to run for 1 qtr, but we adjusted and held you to no drive over 4 plays until we brought in our 2nd team. With all the loses in your passing game what are the other playmakers who would keep a superior MAC defense off balance? Are Negron and Coxson capable of taking on a top MAC pass D that returns all in our 2-deep? On top of finding other WRs & TEs who could handle more than FCS? So many ?'s on offense, and replacing Skiffington and some great defenders, to get started on upset talk for an FBS team on the upswing who dominated 2 years prior.
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So another SUNY Rivalry begins to grow. We should play each other in other sports besides football. I know the Bulls visited SBU for a soccer match. How did that work out ? Was it 4-1 or 4-0 SBU on top.? Anyway September is quite a ways off -we will be ready.
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Yep a bad year for us soccer-wise with our HC taking a leave of absence & the interim not installing strong D. Fired him and hiring anew, a dire need since we had been top 25 & play in a league with Akron and WVU.
We play UA and BU on occassion, but never in MBB. Our AD really avoids AE and NEC contests for RPI purposes which is too bad.
It is great playing pay games to SBU for the reasons stated. Plus, we get better crowds for SBU, Colgate, and Lehigh, than we have for FCS programs from farther locales. I'd expect UAlbany to give us a call too now that they will be full-scholly. They love facing SBU the Evil Empire, so having a shot at the hot-shot THE State U of NY, makes them salivate.
Grata to you for the CAA and scheduling. No FCs fan can ever knock you for NEC/Big South ties now. It's not easy but worth it. UB was an Indy program playing YSU, Ill St, UConn, UMass, Maine, & Hofstra most seasons, and had a rough go of it. But the crowds and excitement for those teams were totally worth it.
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RecoveringHillbilly is a great guy, he's been around for a while and from then looks of it he is a proud Buffalo fan... He does have a point when he says it wont be an easy task beating Buffalo. But I do think that our team will be more prepared this time around and the fact that they wont have to be the first to get a victory against an FBS team is also a positive. I wish we can fast forward to September and find out!!
This definitely can be a good rivalry. The largest two SUNYs in opposite ends of the state competing against each other. Sounds awesome already!
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RHillibilly, question for you: I don't know how long you've been around UB, but has the move to FBS football made a difference in terms of student morale, retention, and applications? Many would argue that the primary purpose of college athletics is (or should be) to improve the academic experience by improving the student experience. There may also be some benefit wrt recruiting faculty and gaining alumni support (though most FBS programs lose money for the school). We've had some debate on this board re. whether it's a good idea for SBU to go FBS and probably be a mediocre FBS program for many years w/o any chance for a top national ranking, OR remain FCS and be a consistently Top 15 team and regular candidate for a national championship (without losing money). I've advocated the top-level FCS option. Some others think bigger is better....although as I said it could mean a string of losing seasons for a while (which has been UB's experience and probably same for UMass). Just curious what you and others at UB think about the actual effect (not just personal preference) of UB's move to FBS.
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RHillibilly, question for you: I don't know how long you've been around UB, but has the move to FBS football made a difference in terms of student morale, retention, and applications? Many would argue that the primary purpose of college athletics is (or should be) to improve the academic experience by improving the student experience. There may also be some benefit wrt recruiting faculty and gaining alumni support (though most FBS programs lose money for the school). We've had some debate on this board re. whether it's a good idea for SBU to go FBS and probably be a mediocre FBS program for many years w/o any chance for a top national ranking, OR remain FCS and be a consistently Top 15 team and regular candidate for a national championship (without losing money). I've advocated the top-level FCS option. Some others think bigger is better....although as I said it could mean a string of losing seasons for a while (which has been UB's experience and probably same for UMass). Just curious what you and others at UB think about the actual effect (not just personal preference) of UB's move to FBS.
I totally agree there. Unless there is any chance of upgrading to one of the top 5 BCS conferences like ACC or Big 12 (for which there is no realistic chance), I just dont see the allure of moving up to FBS and playing in one of the bottom conferences with losing seasons. We will never have the budget or the local/alumni passion and support that those southern and mid-western BCS programs have. And to me, those programs have lost their soul to money making anyway. And besides the top 5 dor 10 bowls, rest of the bowls are meaningless imo.
College sports should be about college experience and I am happy with competing for FCS national championship than playing for meaningless bowl game that no one cares about. (MBB is a different topic though, and I think we can definitely generate good local support and a realistic chance of becoming a major player in the northeast region and joining a conference like A10 oneday).
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For starters, I really have to admit I LOVE the schedule. It's going to be difficult, with a lot of winnable games (and at the same time, a lot of loseable games too).
The thing I'm most psyched about is that we've got a bunch of away games that we can reasonably travel to. Don't get me wrong, the Big South stadiums in October were a blast, but the 8-10 hour travel time each trip was a killer. Looks like i'm travelling a bunch this fall!
It's going to be a bit of a reloading season. I think that Buffalo is going to be the roughest game on the slate, but while I'm not expecting a win, I'm also not expecting a blowout.
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I have alot of respect for our Hill Biily friend from UB. I truly hope just a little rivalry develops through football. I went to Buffalo St about 100 years ago and UB was always our bigger cousin. Never did beat them in hoops. Hopefully the little rivalry I saw at the time between Buff State and UB develops between SBU and UB. It is great school by the way. Even bigger now than it was when I lived up there.
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I was an undergrad during UB's 1-AA days so I've seen the program from both sides. We were destined for a return to 1-A/FBS. We had played in the University Division in the 60's and sent guys to the pros. But when SUNY banned athletic scholrships in '78 we had to battle all through the 80's to reverse that move. It stunted our AD development waiting that long. When we moved to 1-AA (straight from D3) our AD budget was ~$5M so there were many growing pains. But there were usually decent crowds of 4k-7K and some good times like beating YSU/Tressel the year after they won the title.
But spirit was tough to find. Budget cuts under Pataki led to regular arguments that football should not be funded over academic programs. We had a doughnut-hole of alumni support, with alums who had been around in the 50's and 60's loving the move, but very little support from the D3/non-football era of alumni. But our leaders back then knew being AAU and the largest public in NY/New England meant we belonged. We went after the MAC and it was a unanimous vote. The commish back then had a UB connection and touted our institutional profile and access to Upstate NY markets.
It was rough being a fan a decade ago when we had bad hires and inept AD's. But when we finally won the MAC you could see why it was all worth it. The local sports radio who only talked Bills/Sabres suddenly got sick of the Bill's losing and started talking up UB. Local and national media really became interested in Turner Gill and our past, which would never happen if FCS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXuX1GsQ-ZQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXuX1GsQ-ZQ)
And that season began to show the potential of our market and alumni, and why FBS is worth everything. We have 70K alums living in WNY and 210K+ overall so:
*The MAC title game win against Ball St stands as the most-watched game between two MAC programs ever
*We sold our full allotment of 10K bowl tix. And of the 40K who attended the game, ~30K were supporting Buffalo
*"The University at Buffalo’s loss to UConn on Saturday afternoon in the International Bowl was a local ratings hit. The game on ESPN2 averaged a 16.5 rating, representing 16.5 percent of Western New York homes. To put that in perspective, UB’s afternoon game on cable outrated San Diego’s overtime victory over Indianapolis (16.2) on Channel 2, the local NBC affiliate. It also outrated Arizona’s earlier win over Atlanta (12.6)" -Alan Pergament, Buffalo News
*"Time Warner Cable reported that the game drew the largest local cable broadcast audience in four years" (Per UB Athletics)
Only FCS fans see smaller bowls as minor. Nearly all draw better ratings and attendance than the FCS final. Exposure is everything and it helped our AD brand and school spirit obviously soared. There was nothing minor about this environment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoVwV8nm0o4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoVwV8nm0o4)
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RHillbilly, I appreciate the thoughtful response. You are obviously passionate about Bulls football. I guess I was trying to bait you into saying that FBS is not all some claim it to be, but you didn't take the bait. I don't doubt that school spirit was boosted during UB's lone winning season, but I see a losing record in 13 of the 14 years that UB has been FBS, with a combined record of 17-86 prior to the first (and only) winning season. I think all SB fans on this board are convinced that Stony Brook as an FCS member will go forward with winning seasons. Even if SB went FBS and was TWICE as successful as UB, our FBS record would be around 34-69. I don't think the effect on the community would be any more positive (would probably be negative) than SB having a superior winning record at the FCS level...with a few CAA conference championships and maybe an FCS championship game appearance thrown in for good measure. Regardless, I appreciate your response, and Happy Holidays.
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RHillbilly, I appreciate the thoughtful response. You are obviously passionate about Bulls football. I guess I was trying to bait you into saying that FBS is not all some claim it to be, but you didn't take the bait. I don't doubt that school spirit was boosted during UB's lone winning season, but I see a losing record in 13 of the 14 years that UB has been FBS, with a combined record of 17-86 prior to the first (and only) winning season. I think all SB fans on this board are convinced that Stony Brook as an FCS member will go forward with winning seasons. Even if SB went FBS and was TWICE as successful as UB, our FBS record would be around 34-69. I don't think the effect on the community would be any more positive (would probably be negative) than SB having a superior winning record at the FCS level...with a few CAA conference championships and maybe an FCS championship game appearance thrown in for good measure. Regardless, I appreciate your response, and Happy Holidays.
This!
On the otherhand if we were to follow a UConn style football trajectory, who are not one of the college football powers, but has a respectable winning tradition in FBS, then I would be happy to move to 1A.
But seeing how UMass is suffering now on field and off field (terrible attendance.. lower average than when they were in 1AA and media support), I am happy with SBU's 1AA success.
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Here is an interesting quote from Towson Athletic director!
Mike Waddell @TowsonTigerAD "New twist to the September 28 game for @towson_fb at Stony Brook as Tigers and Seawolves will play for yet to be named traveling trophy!"
I never knew that we had such a rivalry with Towson to start a traveling trophy! Unless he is being sarcastic.
I would love to have a traveling trophy with Albany though.
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It reminds me of the "Battle for the Butter" from a few years back.
Anything that draws interest is a good thing. We have a travelling trophy with Albany. For every game, we give them a whoopin, they give us a win.
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The FBS topic is very interesting. The truth is that at any level: FBS provides better exposure than the FCS... and everyday it gets worst for the FCS...
I think that as an institution we belong in the FBS. Our school is large and peer institutions with similar enrollment are playing at that level. UMass is a cautionary tale but at the same time I believe SBU would be a different story. We have a supportive administration, media, and community and we are currently riding a wave of success in our athletic department as a whole. I have no doubt SBU can be competitive at that level and I would prefer a 4-7 year timetable to make the jump. For now we have to continue to aspire to win an FCS championship and to be a competitive power at the FCS.
We gotta pull as many FBS upsets as possible and continue recruiting at a high level. Division I FBS is our destiny! LOL
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Agreed !!!!!!!!
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From what I have read on other boards part of the UMass problem is playing at Foxboro. That is over 2 hours from Amherst on a good day. If they truly have thier home games at home things will hopefully improve attendance wise. Performance of their team is another story. I would find it difficult to attend a Stonybrook home game if I had to drive 2 hours each way. As for joining the MAC or similar conference that could be our reality in 5 plus years. The super conferences- BIG10, ACC , SEC etc are way out of our reach and opportunities are closing to enter them. Being in the MAC still gives you a good OOC schedule home and away and a respectable conference schedule in all sports. So we will see what happens after several years in the CAA, but I can see FBS football in our future.
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The only problem we have with joining the FBS is the Attendance. I attend every home game and see how many fans/ students attend. As far as the non students Fan base goes we do ok,.4000 to 5000 attendance is the norm, not great but is getting better each passing season. Now the student Fan base is another issue. I see only hand full of students attending the games above the tunnel and thats a huge problem. What can S/B do to try and change that and invite more students to go to the games?? I don't have the answer and I've had this disscussion to many people and nobody real has a an answer besides the obvious, win more games!!
I think the problem is not with S/B Football. The problem is L.I. .... We have 2 Pro Football teams, 2 pro Basketball, 2 pro Hockey,etc, etc... in our area. Most of my friends and family rather see a Giant or JETS game before they see a college Football game. Me, I rather attend a good college football game over the JETS any day lol.. Another problem with S/B is the high percentage of students who are Medical students. Most students are to busy studying for finals/exams on Satudays. The Ivy League schools don't have a playoff because of that reason..
Hofsta had a similar problem and because of that their Football program lost $$$$
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Hammertime I know what you are saying. I dont have an answer for poor student attendance either. Yet I watch major programs fill their student sections every Saturday with probably the same financial deal of cut rate tickets or free tickets through a student activity fee. A person I work with has daughter who goes to Penn St. . Even during the down time they are going through with the scandal students wait in line to see their Nitany Lions play football.And yes the NY Metro Area is all about pro sports so we compete with that level for media and fan attention. I think U Conn and Rutgers are just far enough away and a liitle more established to draw fans despite the NY pro mania. If the day comes when we move to an FBS conference home games against the military academies, ACC and Big 10 schools will be a draw. It is a big financial risk for sure. Just look at UMass.
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The students are there... Its just that they don't think we have a big enough product to make it worth going to the games. I remember trying to make some of my hall mates attend the games. They wouldn't go and nothing was enough to convince them. Student attendance will go up as we come out more often in TV, we win more games, and have championship seasons. That's the only thing that will make them attend. Penn St. wasn't Penn St. from day one, same thing goes with Uconn and Rutgers... after a program takes off it would feed on itself.
It is possible to build a College FB program in the Northeast. it will take a lot of work, but it is possible and I think we got the right administration to lead us there (Fiore and Stanley). I believe Fiore can get us there (to a Uconn/Rutgers/BC status) the University has to do everything possible to keep him for the next decade or two!! UConn did it on the backs of their basketball program (UCONN was a CAA/A10 FB program 13 seasons ago) and we can do it by building a winning reputation across our entire athletic department like we are doing in the present
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The student section was filled for and before homecoming. There were alot of problems in the parking lot with fraternities fighting at the homecoming gm and as a result the campus police had to clamp down on the student tailgaiters (underage ones ). Tailgaiting gets students to the gms but all it takes is a few jackasses to ruin it. Attendance on a whole will increase because of the CAA teams being closer to us. Hofstra never avg 5,000 so we do not have the same problem as them ( they avg 1,500 ). I feel 7,000 would be a good avg. for the time being. What I do not want to see is them expand the stadium and have more empty seats. They can make improvements without expanding seats. I think we would all be happy if we avg 7,000 and had 3 or 4 sellouts. As far as exposure goes we have been getting alot more than Hofstra ever did and that should go up with CAA TV deal with the NBC sports cable channel. ESPN has been very good to SB and I see that continuing.
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FYI,
SB opens at BC on 8/31, not 9/7.
http://www.bcinterruption.com/boston-college-football-stony-brook-2013/2012/12/23/3797426/2013-boston-college-football-schedule-stony-brook
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This guy is funny. BC lost at Army so maybe thats what he means- maybe we damage their chances of a Bowl Bid.
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love the idea of FBS, eventually, but lets get some CAA titles under our belt first.
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Seawolf: I assume you were referring to this excerpt from the article: "Bates also put the Eagles game against Stony Brook (which never should have been scheduled) on August 31st-another winnable game–in Addazio’s debut. Those are little things, but it also means that the Bates–Adddazio relationship is starting off on a cohesive note which could again turn the Eagles back into a bowl-eligible program"
:o
maybe we will have a suprise in store for the Eagles come August 31 :P
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I already got my Port Jeff/Bridgeport Ferry ticket for the game .LOL !!!! No tailgating allowed at BC, bummer......
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This is the 2013 schedule so far:
8/31: @ Boston College
9/7:
9/14: @Buffalo
9/21:
9/28: Towson
10/5:
10/12:
10/19:
10/26: New Hampshire
11/2:
11/9: Richmond
11/16: @ James Madison
11/23: Albany
James Madison is added to the schedule. So far 4 CAA home games and 1 CAA away game dates are known. Most probably travelling to two other northern teams (Maine and URI) and to one of the two other southern teams (Nova or W&M). Delaware already has their schedule out and not playing them. Also one more ooc game is to be decided. We are not playing Colgate or Brown in 2013, as rumored earlier.
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SB will not play William and Mary this upcoming season, rats!
William & Mary, which will try to rebound from a 2-9 season, will not play either of the CAA's two new teams, Albany and Stony Brook.
2013 William & Mary Football Schedule
Aug. 31, at West Virginia
Sept. 7, Hampton
Sept. 14, at Lafayette
Sept. 21, Rhode Island*
Oct. 5, at Villanova*
Oct. 12, Penn
Oct. 19, at Maine*
Oct. 26, James Madison* (Homecoming)
Nov. 2, New Hampshire*
Nov. 9, at Delaware*
Nov. 16, Towson*
Nov. 23, at Richmond*
* - CAA Football game
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So Delaware is booked . That leaves a road trip to Villanova ?
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we are not playing Delaware, here is there schedule:
Jacksonville (Fla.)
Delaware State (Route 1 Rivalry)
at Navy
Wagner
*James Madison
at *Maine
*Albany
at *Rhode Island
at *Towson
*William & Mary
*Richmond
at *Villanova (Battle of the Blue)
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This is the 2013 schedule so far:
8/31: @ Boston College
9/7:
9/14: @ Buffalo
9/21:
9/28: Towson
10/5:
10/12:
10/19:
10/26: New Hampshire
11/2:
11/9: Richmond
11/16: @ James Madison
11/23: Albany
Not playing W&M in 2013 (and Delaware as well). That leaves us just waiting to find out the travelling dates to Maine, URI and Nova. Also one or two more OOC game is to be decided.
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Thanks for the update. Sweet schedule!!!!!
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Thanks for the update. Sweet schedule!!!!!
:)
I hope for OOC we add couple of winnable games that are neither too difficult nor easy cupcakes. Such as one against a PL team (Colgate or Fordham will do) and one agaist an NEC team (Wagner or Bryant or CCSU).
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It would be nice to get Fordham, Columbia and Wagner on a rotational schedule. We are the only four FCS programs in the Metro Area and should play each other.
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http://www.college-sports-journal.com/index.php/fcs-information-center/conf-scheds-2013/caa-sched-2013
at rhody
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What the heck is that long string of away games to start the season? Are they trying to punish us for being new to the CAA (IOW earn our stripes by winning on the road? I think it's a little bit unfair, don't you guys?
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I dont think its CAA doing.. @BC and @Buffalo are OOC games. But yes, seems like its going to be brutal first month of away games.
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that really blows. the only relief is Game 2, Rhode Island is not too good. the other three games will be tough.
8/31: @ Boston College
9/7: @ Rhode Island
9/14: @Buffalo
9/21: @ Nova
9/28: Towson
10/5:
10/12:
10/19:
10/26: New Hampshire
11/2:
11/9: Richmond
11/16: @ James Madison
11/23: Albany
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Will Towson be will be homecoming game?
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Is this schedule set in stone, I mean, an entire month of away games to open the season!. I think a call to Jim Fiore office is in order for this schedule.. !! This is bull sh#$. I'm sorry but it is !!!!!!
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Maine must be our 8th and final CAA game, tho its not posted yet. that leaves a BYE, and two more Non Conf games to fill in the schedule.
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I am not sure where the above website found the URI and Nova dates from... Cause they havent released their schedule yet!
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2012 schedules of our opponents shown in parentheses. FBS teams in Bold.
8/31: @ Boston College (2-10)
9/7: @ Rhode Island (0-11)
9/14: @Buffalo (4-8)
9/21: @ Nova (8-4)
9/28: Towson (7-4)
10/5:
10/12:
10/19:
10/26: New Hampshire (8-4)
11/2:
11/9: Richmond (8-3)
11/16: @ James Madison (7-4)
11/23: Albany (9-2)
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This is a terrible schedule. How did Jim Fiore and Priore even allow this. Starting our home season on 9/28. What the f*ck... That's going to be an attendance killer and probably take us a step back. This probably means homecoming will be pushed back to October when its already cold... Not cool at all
I will wait until the official release because I'm sure this is getting worked out still. Its just hard to believe a guy like Jim would allow the program to get fuc*ed over like that. Something needs to be done. we should have atleast one home game by the fourth week...
With that said. If this doesn't changes. Lets get ready to become roadwarriors. @Nova and @Rhody are fairly close from the NY Metro area
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like iBOsbu said, there is nothing on Nova's or Rhody's website to indicate this is indeed their schedule for games with SB. nor can I find anything on Fox Sports Network FCS coverage. so who knows how accurate this is. I agree that first home game in Week 5 would really suck.
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I say wee all should try and contact Fiore tomorrow to find out whats up. This is bad, real bad for SBU Football !!!!
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Ok everyone off the ledge- its not as easy as just picking where you want to play and who and when... specifically when you are jumping into a new conference and you have to be fit into their schedules- multiple, that is. Im sure Coach and AD didnt want it this way, but its probably what we have to do to get into the CAA. It will get better. Remember this is sort of a fire drill, changing over the schedule and fitting into everyone elses.
Its a great test. Lets make it an opportunity, get out there, and win. GO SB
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Both Albany and SB still have big holes in their schedules for next year, so I think Chairman's comments bear some weight, as to moving into a new conf and the scheduling issues. however, none of the other CAA teams appear to start their seasons with four straight road games. a couple teams start their season with three of the first four games on the road, and the rest seem to split the first four games, two at home and two on the road. SB seems to be the only team that has their first four games on the road
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They could have easilly schedule it the same for all teams in the CAA.. Just because we are new to the confrence shouldn't make a difference. SBU got screwed and Fiore should be raising hell !!!
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I agree with Chairman here... yes its not fair to start with four away games, but we just have to go and play our best.
Mind you that the OOC games are FBS money games that we scheduled! Each FBS games always brings between $300k-500k to a FCS program. If we wanted, we could have scheduled cupcake games against weak FCS teams.
Good thing is that URI should be an easy game and there are more home games to end the regular season which should help us towards getting to FCS playoffs. I am assuming top three CAA teams, may be even top four, will go to the playoffs
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I've been hearing that we might drop the Buffalo game to try and get a home game, or even try to get that game at yankee/citi field... and i'm pretty sure Priore is not thrilled about 4 away games to start the season... knowing that man, there will be changes.. ;-)
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I've been hearing that we might drop the Buffalo game to try and get a home game, or even try to get that game at yankee/citi field... and i'm pretty sure Priore is not thrilled about 4 away games to start the season... knowing that man, there will be changes.. ;-)
I would give up one FBS game for one Home game anyday. I hope Priore and fiore are both pounding the tables as i type because we get screwed. The last thing in the world we need right now is a setback because of a conflict in scheduling.
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Looks like SBU homecoming game is in November. WOW . that sucks !!!!!
http://www.jmusports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=14400&ATCLID=205842160
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Senior Day is not Homecoming.
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Senior day is a home game for JMU, not SBU's homecoming. First off to start bashing the coach and AD for the upcoming schedule is way off base. Fiore has done everything to pump up SBU the last couple of years ( bidding for the two home playoff gms the last 2 yrs ). Also bidding for the NIT and the NCAA womens tourny 2yrs in a row. Priore deals with recruiting players not setting schedules, the AD handles that. You guys always say that you like to play FBS teams well those are 2 of the road gms to start the season. We are not being punished by playing 2 CAA gms on the road to start the season, that's just the way it worked out. And let's wait until the official schedule comes out before we start crying. It's warm in Oct so homecoming will still be packed, I have been going to homecoming for over 10 yrs and some times it was held in Oct. The chairman is right let's not jump off the ledge, also let's not call out the AD and the coach cause it's starting to sound like one of those radio call in shows.
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I would not give up FBS game for one home game with FCS team. I dont like the schedule but its much more exciting than Big South days. I have no complain with Fiore's effort so far. He has done excellent for SBU. I really hope we keep him for another many years and not lose him to bigger budget schools.
I do hope we add one or two FCS home games against NY teams in October when we seem to have lot of opening.
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Well...I personally wasn't bashing Priore or Jim Fiore. They are both great for Stony Brook and I wish they stay here forever... my initial reaction was more like surprised that they allowed this to happen. But you have a point: this things are out of the control of coaches, and there is also little flexibility for the AD when the program schedule two FBS games which 99% of the time tend to be away games
I also decided to wait for the official schedule because they are most likely doing their best to change the current situation.
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I've been hearing that we might drop the Buffalo game to try and get a home game, or even try to get that game at yankee/citi field... and i'm pretty sure Priore is not thrilled about 4 away games to start the season... knowing that man, there will be changes.. ;-)
I hope we dont drop it. I really want to see the battle of SUNY!
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As expected. Priore's contract extended. Fantastic news
http://www.goseawolves.org/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/011713aaa.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
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AWESOME news.
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I think we will be fine. Mens hoops played quite a few road games early on this season and did very well. We are the new kid on the CAA block so maybe we have to pay our dues. Lets see what the officail schedule looks like next month. And lets keep BC and Buffalo on the schedule.
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Wolfstock is on October 5th!
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dont you think its about time for the CAA to update their website and reflect the addition of SB and Albany?
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We're heading to Colgate on October 20th, and to Maine on Nov 2nd. 7 Aways now, gotta think we'll get one more home game to round it out at 12.
8/31: @ Boston College (2-10)
9/7: @ Rhode Island (0-11)
9/14: @Buffalo (4-8)
9/21: @ Nova (8-4)
9/28: Towson (7-4)
10/5:
10/12: @ Colgate
10/19:
10/26: New Hampshire (8-4)
11/2: @ Maine
11/9: Richmond (8-3)
11/16: @ James Madison (7-4)
11/23: Albany (9-2)
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I really, really hate this schedule man !!!!!!! Even the Albany game is the last FREEEZZZZing game of the home season......... GRRRRRRRRRRR !!!!
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Easy Hammer that's what grilling is for. Nothing like grilled meat to keep you warm.
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I know it's going to be tough schedule but I think it's great that we end with rivalry game against Albany.
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LOL.. Yes, I will be tailgating this year with a bunch of family members I recruited.. We tailgated 3 times last year and had a great time. I even Tailgated the week when Hurricane Sandy hit, when we played Villanova.
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with the exception of Rhode Island, this has the looks of a real ball buster schedule. if strength of schedule counts for anything, we'd be near the top.
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Way to build the fan base, Hammer!
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with the exception of Rhode Island, this has the looks of a real ball buster schedule. if strength of schedule counts for anything, we'd be near the top.
So you think we will beat both BC and Buffalo ??? I'll be happy with a split !!!
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Hopefully we add one more home game... preference would be a NY area easier team.. Wagner would be my choice.
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The CAA wont be easy but for that reason it is a multi bid league.
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I really, really hate this schedule man !!!!!!! Even the Albany game is the last FREEEZZZZing game of the home season......... GRRRRRRRRRRR !!!!
Frankly I love this schedule. Easily the hardest we've ever played, with very winnable BIG games in there. Those 4 aways will tell us a lot. We should kick Rhode Island around (who won't?), and I'm hoping we get one more win of either BC or Villanova. We go 2-2 or 3-1, and that will immediately get us a ton of attention.
Albany as the last game could very well determine if we get an at-large bid. I LOVE that kind of atmosphere. Imagine how much fun our last matchup was, except add 2K seats. Electric.
This is the type of schedule that can really expand a fan base.
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I really, really hate this schedule man !!!!!!! Even the Albany game is the last FREEEZZZZing game of the home season......... GRRRRRRRRRRR !!!!
Frankly I love this schedule. Easily the hardest we've ever played, with very winnable BIG games in there. Those 4 aways will tell us a lot. We should kick Rhode Island around (who won't?), and I'm hoping we get one more win of either BC or Villanova. We go 2-2 or 3-1, and that will immediately get us a ton of attention.
Albany as the last game could very well determine if we get an at-large bid. I LOVE that kind of atmosphere. Imagine how much fun our last matchup was, except add 2K seats. Electric.
This is the type of schedule that can really expand a fan base.
If we go out of this road game 3 and 1, hopefully the only lose is Buffalo, then the remaining schedule looks real good to get us into the Playoffs. How about a win over Buffalo!!!. WOW !!! that would be huge, a redemption game.. I think we take BC too ...
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I love it too. Think of it this way- even if we struggle against this much more difficult sched, the benefits of building this program over the next few years will be evident. Players will get better, more experience, and youll draw better recruits.
Thats not to say throw away this year; we will be competitive.
Though there's a lot of road trips in there, most arent too awful in terms of hours. Not sure if any they even need to fly to, perhaps Buf?
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I really love that our athletic department has scheduled FBS games against Buffalo and BC, both northeast teams, instead of teams from other part of the country. Students and locals know these names, and will generate much more interest than say if we were to play Southern Miss or North Texas. Buffalo, being a SUNY program, will obvioiusly create a battle of SUNY mentality like we have with Albany. And BC college is from Boston, and we love to beat any Boston teams in any sports at any level.
CAA teams are also much more well known in NYC and LI than Big South teams (may be Hofstra being in CAA has something to do with it!). Do Gardner–Webb and VMI really excite you? I am more excited that Towson, Albany and UNH will be visiting us this year and UD and Nova in future years. Just being in this conference with more familiar names will create much more buzz.
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Good point. UTEP was worth the trip i think. But 10 or 12 years ago they played Jacksonville. Not much benefit there unless you win AND youre recruiting NE florida, i think. You win at UTEP though, diff story.
Otherwise, youre right- Buf, BC, Army, Cuse, these are the programs to add. Heck lets even get UMass on there, my guess is they are looking for an FCS team!
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I'm not crazy about the road game against Colgate. The schedule is already ridiculous with the CAA and the two FBS games. Topping it off with a road game at a Patriot League power seems like a bit much. I would much rather they pay an NEC team for a home game, a la CCSU last year.
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Now that we have a tentative 11-game schedule (although there is a chance that there might be one more game), can we start with the predictions??? ;D ;D ;D
8/31: @ Boston College (2-10) Toss-up
9/7: @ Rhode Island (0-11) Win
9/14: @ Buffalo (4-8) Loss
9/21: @ Nova (8-4) Toss-up
9/28: Towson (7-4) Win
10/5:
10/12: @ Colgate (8-4) Win
10/19:
10/26: New Hampshire (8-4) Toss-up
11/2: @ Maine (5-6) Win
11/9: Richmond (8-3) Toss-up
11/16: @ James Madison (7-4) Loss
11/23: Albany (9-2) Win
5 Wins, 2 Losses, 4 Toss-ups
I think we will win 2 of the 4 Toss-ups.
My prediction is we will go over all 7-4 (6-2 CAA).
Is that enough to make it to the playoffs?
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I'm not crazy about the road game against Colgate. The schedule is already ridiculous with the CAA and the two FBS games. Topping it off with a road game at a Patriot League power seems like a bit much. I would much rather they pay an NEC team for a home game, a la CCSU last year.
I think we had a two year home/home agreement with Colgate. They came to SBU last year and we are visiting them this year in return. So not much we could do. Next year, schedule will make much more sense.
We will be playing UConn and Cincinnati in 2014.
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just an FYI, we replaced buffalo with a home game, not sure of the team, all i know is that it is not a Div 2 team.
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I'm not crazy about the road game against Colgate. The schedule is already ridiculous with the CAA and the two FBS games. Topping it off with a road game at a Patriot League power seems like a bit much. I would much rather they pay an NEC team for a home game, a la CCSU last year.
I think we had a two year home/home agreement with Colgate. They came to SBU last year and we are visiting them this year in return. So not much we could do. Next year, schedule will make much more sense.
We will be playing UConn and Cincinnati in 2014.
I would have liked to see them buy out the contract. Although if we're no longer playing buffalo I care less about travelling to Colgate.
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Yes.. its a shame.. I would rather drop Colgate and keep Buffalo on the schedule. I guess the schedule is still in the process of finalizing, and thats why Seawolves are taking time releasing FB schedule.
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I think its a good idea to drop Buffalo. at the end of the day, we need to get one of the auto-bids out of the CAA, or an at-large berth at worst. So to me, the game with Colgate is a good one, a win in that game would strengthen our at-large spot later on, if we need at-large consideration. so the focus of the first four games is to win the games against RI and Nova. if we lighten up our schedule by dropping Buff, then I think its possible we can go 4-0 through the first four games. One FBS win against BC will preserve the SB tradition of being able to beat FBS teams. Lets get our feet on the ground in the CAA in 2013 and go from there.
8/31: @ Boston College (2-10) Toss-up
9/7: @ Rhode Island (0-11) Win
9/14: home game ?????
9/21: @ Nova (8-4) Toss-up
9/28: Towson (7-4) Win
10/5:
10/12: @ Colgate (8-4) Win
10/19:
10/26: New Hampshire (8-4) Toss-up
11/2: @ Maine (5-6) Win
11/9: Richmond (8-3) Toss-up
11/16: @ James Madison (7-4) Loss
11/23: Albany (9-2) Win
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I agree BIGFATFAN.. A little less pressure on out players dropping Buffalo now. I am glad they dropped Buffalo and not BC because BC is a much beatable team then Buffalo is. In my opinion !!!!
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I think its a good idea to drop Buffalo. at the end of the day, we need to get one of the auto-bids out of the CAA, or an at-large berth at worst. So to me, the game with Colgate is a good one, a win in that game would strengthen our at-large spot later on, if we need at-large consideration. so the focus of the first four games is to win the games against RI and Nova. if we lighten up our schedule by dropping Buff, then I think its possible we can go 4-0 through the first four games. One FBS win against BC will preserve start the SB tradition of being able to beat FBS teams. Lets get our feet on the ground in the CAA in 2013 and go from there.
8/31: @ Boston College (2-10) Toss-up
9/7: @ Rhode Island (0-11) Win
9/14: home game ?????
9/21: @ Nova (8-4) Toss-up
9/28: Towson (7-4) Win
10/5:
10/12: @ Colgate (8-4) Win
10/19:
10/26: New Hampshire (8-4) Toss-up
11/2: @ Maine (5-6) Win
11/9: Richmond (8-3) Toss-up
11/16: @ James Madison (7-4) Loss
11/23: Albany (9-2) Win
Fixed that for you :) We only have one win against an FBS team in our history... not much of a tradition. Two wins in a row, yes, now we are talking start of a tradition ;D
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Albany game as the last is exciting. but once again it will be thanksgiving weekend and cold! Students wont be around... that tells me it probably wont be a sellout
I don't really like the four away games to start (as I said before)... For current and future road warriors likes many of us it doesn't make a difference... But for the casual fan that we would like to attract its gets that much harder when its already four weeks into the season and cold. Oh well. Lets go Seawolves nonetheless
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Disregard previous comment: just read that we replaced buffalo for a home game. Bittersweet
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Buffalo still has us playing them. Then again, it's still to early for a complete schedule !!!
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-13/mid-amer/2013-buffalo-bulls-football-schedule.php
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SBUFAN33: where did you get the info that we dropped Buff? apparently the Buff website still shows SB on it.
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Buffalo still has us playing them. Then again, it's still to early for a complete schedule !!!
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-13/mid-amer/2013-buffalo-bulls-football-schedule.php
This is all getting confusing now. Now I am just goning to wait for the official schedule which will be out in a few days.
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The Albany playoff gm in 2011 was played Thanksgiving weekend and had 7,000 plus. It was 60 degrees and one of the better tailgates I have been to. But let's wait until they post the official schedule, we might all be happy.
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Insider news ;) I also heard we are playing someone from the MEAC.
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The Meac http://espn.go.com/ncf/conferences/standings?confId=24&year=2012
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The Meac http://espn.go.com/ncf/conferences/standings?confId=24&year=2012
Bethune Cookman would be a GREAT game - very good program at their level (the MEAC is full scholly, but traditionally attracts NEC-level talent).
Realistically though, Delaware St I'd expect to be the team we got. Rumors always swirling that they want to go to the AEC, and they're regional enough that both teams are aware of each other.
That said - just happy it's D1. Got promises from inside sources that the D2 was to make up for losing Hofstra, and those losses are now over. NEVER AGAIN.
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Bethune Cookman was a play off team and is a good prgram. Delaware St would another good choice and probably bring a following since they are relatively close. Agree 100% no more D2's please
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2013 Stony Brook Football Schedule
Date Opponent Location Time
8/31 Boston College Chesnut Hill, Mass. TBA
9/7 Rhode Island* Kingston, R.I. TBA
9/14 Buffalo Buffalo, N.Y. TBA
9/21 Villanova* Villanova, Pa. TBA
9/28 Towson* STONY BROOK TBA
10/5 Bryant STONY BROOK TBA
10/12 Colgate Hamilton, N.Y. TBA
10/19
10/26 New Hampshire* STONY BROOK TBA
11/2 Maine* Orono, Maine TBA
11/9 Richmond* STONY BROOK TBA
11/16 James Madison* Harrisonburg, Va. TBA
11/23 Albany* STONY BROOK TBA
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So we are playing Bryant on 10/5... keeping the first 4 away games as it was.
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Much toughter schedule than the Big South but I'll take it.
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OVERWHELMINGLY satisfied with that schedule. THAT'S the way to fill the stands, to get noticed, and pull recruits.
Very, very, impressed with Priore and co for this one.
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Ditto
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I could do without 2 FBS gms. Rather have another home gm against FCS team. Otherwise nice schedule.
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The FBS games were the only reason SB made the playoffs last year...gotta keep them on the schedule
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I could do without 2 FBS gms. Rather have another home gm against FCS team. Otherwise nice schedule.
I agree 100 $. 5 home games blows. We had 2 FBS games last year but our schedule was much easier, this is going to be a tough year for our boys.. Go brooks!!!!!
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Not worried about a tough schedule cause we have a good team. I just not a fan of FBS playing FCS on any level. Hopefully we earn a playoff home gm.
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I could do without 2 FBS gms. Rather have another home gm against FCS team. Otherwise nice schedule.
I agree 100 $. 5 home games blows. We had 2 FBS games last year but our schedule was much easier, this is going to be a tough year for our boys.. Go brooks!!!!!
5 home games this year should = 7 home games next year....
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Not worried about a tough schedule cause we have a good team. I just not a fan of FBS playing FCS on any level. Hopefully we earn a playoff home gm.
Those are money games for FCS teams.. we will probably make around $300k-$400k for each of those two games.
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Not worried about a tough schedule cause we have a good team. I just not a fan of FBS playing FCS on any level. Hopefully we earn a playoff home gm.
Those are money games for FCS teams.. we will probably make around $300k-$400k for each of those two games.
I thought the FCS school pays to play the FBS. Could you elaborate more on how that process works!!!
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I understand why they do it, but how much money could Buffalo be giving us. It's the other way around Hammer, they pay us.
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Its the opposite.. FBS schools pays FCS schools to go to their stadium. Dont know much about the process though. I can find out later with some internet research.
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"When the NCAA implemented a permanent 12-game schedule for FBS teams in 2006, it further changed the non-conference scheduling landscape. Teams went scrambling to find guaranteed games against FCS opponents to fill the schedule because any FBS program with a non-losing record is eligible for a bowl game. Kramer says FBS teams can pay less money to schedule a home game against an FCS program, whereas playing another FBS school can cost roughly $1 million. "
on another site "$483,000: Average price for Florida, Alabama and Georgia's FCS games this season. Florida paid $500,000, Georgia and Alabama $475,000 apiece."
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I understand why they do it, but how much money could Buffalo be giving us. It's the other way around Hammer, they pay us.
Assuming bottom of the range for usual FCS@FBS game, we should net about $300k.
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12-games season.. My updated prediction:
8/31: @ Boston College (2-10) Toss-up
9/7: @ Rhode Island (0-11) Win
9/14: @ Buffalo (4-8) Loss
9/21: @ Nova (8-4) Toss-up
9/28: Towson (7-4) Win
10/5: Bryant (4-7) Win
10/12: @ Colgate (8-4) Win
10/19:
10/26: New Hampshire (8-4) Toss-up
11/2: @ Maine (5-6) Win
11/9: Richmond (8-3) Toss-up
11/16: @ James Madison (7-4) Loss
11/23: Albany (9-2) Win
6 Wins, 2 Losses, 4 Toss-ups
I think we will win 2 of the 4 Toss-ups.
Prediction 8-4 (6-2 CAA).
;D ;D ;D
Too optimistic?
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Money makes FCS-FBS mismatches go round
Good article that was too long to paste....
http://www.foxsportswisconsin.com/08/30/12/Money-makes-FCS-FBS-mismatches-go-round/landing_badgers.html?blockID=782187
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Thanks joewillie. That article sums it all up. It's all about the greenbacks.... I did not know FBS schools are allowed to have 85 scholarships where as FCS only 65. that can explains the disconnect .. And to think we won against Army and came close to winning against big Orange and NDSU, i think, has the most FBS wins of all FCS schools, tells us we we have a pretty damn good Football program!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I still have the same opinion. This is could be a big mistake for our program. Not having a FB game four weeks into the season is a problem. Freshman students wont come out in bunches as they did last year. They probably will be busy with midterms by then. For a young program like ours its important to get the attention of the incoming students so we can hook em up with Seawolves athletics. Same applies for the communities. We will follow the team anyways whether they play at home or not, but we are the %1-5% of the fan base. The casual fan will dislike this.
I HOPE I'M FULLY WRONG ABOUT THIS! :)
Go Seawolves!
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I agree Edwin, but they seem committed to playing 2 fbs teams each yr. I believe we had 3 road gms to start the 2010 season. The AD and coach know what they are doing so who are we to say ( just the guys who go to the gms). I am sure we had to play more CAA road gms due to it being our first yr. Not happy with it but I guess it will pay off in the long run.
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ecasadoSBU:
1st congrats on 1k posts ;D
2nd imaseawolf.com is this your blog? Really impressed with it! Need some updates and new articles. Love the design and layout.
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i thought the athletic dept runs that blog, meaning its official... i check it all the time, havent seen any updates!!!
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I agree Edwin, but they seem committed to playing 2 fbs teams each yr. I believe we had 3 road gms to start the 2010 season. The AD and coach know what they are doing so who are we to say ( just the guys who go to the gms). I am sure we had to play more CAA road gms due to it being our first yr. Not happy with it but I guess it will pay off in the long run.
CAA: Aren't we playing 4 home 4 away CAA games total 8 games?
OOC: 2 away FBS games and 1 away FCS game against PL Colgate and 1 home game against NEC Bryant.
I think in future it would be most likely similar to this year, 7 away 5 home or 6-6 . But I dont think we will repeat starting with 4 away games ever again.
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i thought the athletic dept runs that blog, meaning its official... i check it all the time, havent seen any updates!!!
Thanks for clearing that up.. I always see the link in his signature.. so I thought it was probably his blog. It needs to be updated!!!!
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Wow. 1k post. I didn't realize. Thanks iBOsbu. I'm proud to be part of the SBU community!!! Lets keep it going!!!
Its not my Blog. Adam Nathaniel Peck runs the site I believe. He is a great guy, and big Stony Brook fan who studied Journalism at our University. He previously asked me to participate in the site but I'm not too much of a writer (as you can tell). Maybe you can contact him and contribute to the site if you like!!
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I am cutting and pasting from the offical site:
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This is probably our toughest schedule yet but 8-4 or better is reasonable and should get us in the playoffs as an at large.
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I love the schedule. Two FBS games is rough, but they add more than just money. Maysonet running all over 'Nova and the Big South doesn't get a lot of play. He leaps one Syracuse dude and he's on Sportscenter.
And both the FBS games are winnable. We won't be the favorites in either game, and we shouldn't be, but it's not like we're seeing 'Bama or Notre Dame.
The CAA move makes the schedule much more difficult, but it also gives you 6 chances to get "signature wins" come playoff time. This time last year we had Army, Syracuse, Liberty, Colgate, and Coastal to potentially help our resume. This year we have 9+ games.
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I think playing one FBS team a year is appropriate but not two... I understand why the FCS do it but the Big10 already decided they will no longer schedule FCS teams starting in 2014. I hope other conferences don't follow suit..
http://www.fbschedules.com/2013/02/big-ten-conference-stop-scheduling-fcs-teams/
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Hammer, think of it this way-- by playing two FBS games instead of one, we generally double our chances of picking up an FBS win. There's a certain amount of prestige that goes along with a win over an FBS program. Also, recruits LIKE the idea of playing at two big-time venues instead of only one. And then there's the extra money....
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Playing FBS schools adds excitement to our schedule. They are more known by everyone and we happen to upset one of them it would be huge for SBU. I don't mind the two FBS schools in the schedule. That's how you grow your brand and balance the budget simultaneously,
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Yea but you give up a home game in order to play 2 FBS gms. I would trade a home gm for an FBS gm anytime. I agree with the big 10 getting rid of FCS gms.
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I'm amazed that other conferences haven't done that already. FBS games are a necessity at the moment, and considering the massive steps the program has taken in the last few years, I'm going to give Fiore/Priore benefit of the doubt. They've made some decisions I didn't exactly love, but in the end it worked out rather well (example: Pace & Colgate last year, with two mid-season FBS games and no bye week).
All that said, I wouldn't be opposed to an all FCS schedule.
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Looks like you can forget about seeing BC:
http://www.bcinterruption.com/boston-college-football-stony-brook-2013/2013/2/25/4028358/2013-acc-football-schedule-boston-college-stony-brook-villanova
Villanova was originally slated to face ACC newcomer Pittsburgh in the season opener, but the conference wanted to stage its Labor Day Monday game between Pittsburgh and Florida State to fulfill its TV obligations under the conference's new media rights contracts with ESPN. The ACC reportedly stepped in to help Pittsburgh and Florida State rearrange their schedules, as well as replacing CAA newcomer Stony Brook with Villanova on the Eagles' 2013 schedule.
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based on this quote from Magic Man, I suspect that the ACC gave SB some cash to give up the game with BC. I doubt SB did that switch without getting some $$ out of the ACC or BC
The ACC reportedly stepped in to help Pittsburgh and Florida State rearrange their schedules, as well as replacing CAA newcomer Stony Brook with Villanova on the Eagles' 2013 schedule.
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Please Fiore.. get it done. Want to see SHSU@SBU on 8/31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP97xJOEKXM
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that was a great game, thanks for the reminder. one blown coverage by our D, one missed TD pass by Essington... we were so close to knocking those guys off.
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that was a great game, thanks for the reminder. one blown coverage by our D, one missed TD pass by Essington... we were so close to knocking those guys off.
That would be awesome .. I think we would have a harder time beating SH then BC.. Starting off the season against tough opponent is good .. Don't want to have 2 or 3 wins against Cupcake teams out of your conference just to come back and get blown out by a conference game!! Sam Houston State would be perfect match-up for us to start the season off, at home !!!!!
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that was a great game, thanks for the reminder. one blown coverage by our D, one missed TD pass by Essington... we were so close to knocking those guys off.
That would be awesome .. I think we would have a harder time beating SH then BC.. Starting off the season against tough opponent is good .. Don't want to have 2 or 3 wins against Cupcake teams out of your conference just to come back and get blown out by a conference game!! Sam Houston State would be perfect match-up for us to start the season off, at home !!!!!
Yesterday Greg Logan had a twitter argument with the guy behind bcinterruption.com @bcinterruption and he was really angry at Logan for suggesting that SHSU was better than BC last year. You should go to Logan's account and read they argument. I love Logan.. he seems to be genuinely passionate about SB Athletics! So glad he is writing for us on Newsday.
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Rumor is that we are trying to work out Home-Home 2013@SBU 2014@SHSU. I hope Fiore can get it done. I would be so excited. Although I am not sure if we would be able to fill out the stadium. SBU students and LI locals are not familier with Sam Houston to generate buzz and excitement.
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"Yesterday Greg Logan had a twitter argument with the guy behind bcinterruption.com @bcinterruption and he was really angry at Logan for suggesting that SHSU was better than BC last year."
Sam Houston WAS better than BC last year. Sagarin had SH 50 spots ahead of BC. BC's RPI was 10 spots higher, but I like Sagarin.
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Sam Houston State was without a doubt a better football team then BC was in 2012/13 season. I would go even further then that. SH could beat 50% of FBS teams currently. They have Experience, size, and coach Willie Fritz has a lot of experience . He reminds me of Priore in many ways. I wouldn't be surprised if they are the next FCS team to move up !!!!
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It looks as if Priore wanted out with BC because of the 4 away games. Priore cares more about his players and fans the $$$, obviously . It's my understanding, BC agreed to Priore's request and did not have to pay $$$$ to SB, WOW!!!.. I think Priore is reading this Forum because it sounds like the majority of the Forum did not agree to the 4 away games, and priore took action !!
http://www.vuhoops.com/villanova-football/2013/2/26/4029522/boston-college-how-a-pittsburgh-game-turned-into-a-classic-catholic
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Yesterday Greg Logan had a twitter argument with the guy behind bcinterruption.com @bcinterruption and he was really angry at Logan for suggesting that SHSU was better than BC last year. You should go to Logan's account and read they argument. I love Logan.. he seems to be genuinely passionate about SB Athletics! So glad he is writing for us on Newsday.
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Wow. I read some of the Tweets from Logan and bcinterruption. Logan won that round and he really sounds like he's passionate with SB Athletics .. Nice to have a supporter from Newsday on SB side because every little bit of publicity goes a long way....
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The Sam fans down here in Texas are also REALLY hoping this game gets set in stone. Great matchup for both teams and the FCS needs more OOC games like this.
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Thanks for stopping by. This will be a great game if it comes off a and a great way to start the season. We never had a team from Texas come to Long Island for football.
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I totally agree. I would LOVE to schedule a home and home with Sam Houston.
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I would go as far to say a home and home series with SHS would help out with recruiting in Texas. That alone is a pretty big positive.
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I would go as far to say a home and home series with SHS would help out with recruiting in Texas. That alone is a pretty big positive.
Excellent point!
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The Sam fans down here in Texas are also REALLY hoping this game gets set in stone. Great matchup for both teams and the FCS needs more OOC games like this.
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Usually the folks in our AD are pretty quick to debunk any rumors circulating on KF.com that hold ZERO credence, so I would assume these talks are resulting in positive things for both schools.
Again, hope it happens.
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Im sure it will be fan draw us and likely the same for the Kats when we go down there. Watched the game on my computer two years ago nice stadium and good crowd on hand to support the home town team.
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Official UB schedule release, complementary brief paragraph on SBU: http://www.buffalobulls.com/sports/fball/2012-13/releases/201303016pfnhn (http://www.buffalobulls.com/sports/fball/2012-13/releases/201303016pfnhn)
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Sam Houston State still looking for an Aug 31 game, could be on the road against SB?
Sam Houston State sets 2013 schedule, seeks one more game
Huntsville, TX (Sports Network) - Sam Houston State football will host Eastern Washington as one of its six home games and visit Texas A&M in its 2013 schedule that was announced on Monday.
The Sept. 28 game against Eastern Washington at Elliott T. Bowers Stadium matches two teams which met in last season's FCS semifinals. Sam Houston won, 45-42.
The Bearkats also will play Texas A&M for the second straight season on Sept. 7. The Aggies won last year's game, 47-28.
The A&M game could be Sam Houston's season opener, but coach Willie Fritz and athletic director Bobby Williams are seeking to add a 12th game to the schedule, presumably one week earlier on Aug. 31.
The other home games are against Texas Southern (Sept. 14) and Incarnate Word (Sept. 21) in non-conference action, and Lamar (Oct. 12, Homecoming), Northwestern State (Nov. 26) and Nicholls (Nov. 9) within the Southland Conference.
Sam Houston State will play Stephen F. Austin in the 88th "Battle of the Piney Woods" at Houston's Reliant Stadium on Nov. 2. The past three years, the annual rivalry has drawn crowds of more than 25,000 fans to the home of the Houston Texans.
Other road games are against Southland rivals McNeese State (Oct. 19), Southeastern Louisiana (Nov. 16) and Central Arkansas (Nov. 23).
The Bearkats have finished as the FCS runner-up in each of the past two seasons.
2013 Sam Houston State Football Schedule
All Times ET
Sept. 7, at Texas A&M, TBA
Sept. 14, Texas Southern, 7 p.m.
Sept. 21, Incarnate Word, 7 p.m.
Sept. 28, Eastern Washington, 4 p.m.
Oct. 12, Lamar* (Homecoming), 3 p.m.
Oct. 19, at McNeese State*, TBA
Oct. 26, Northwestern State*, 3 p.m.
Nov. 2, at Stephen F. Austin* (Reliant Stadium, Houston), 4 p.m.
Nov. 9, Nicholls*, 3 p.m.
Nov. 16, at Southeastern Louisiana*, TBA
Nov. 23, at Central Arkansas*, TBA
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Word we got was your admin didn't want to return the favor in Texas for 2014 so the talks broke down. Again, just rumor.
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That would be a disappointment if fiore decided against that. especially when SHSU has proven to be a great team the past couple of years. It would only be fair for a home and home. But if this turns out to be true, there can be a possible reason: SBU is committed towards playing 2-FBS per season and this might interfere with it. This year we had an open spot because Boston College dropped us. But I believe we have Uconn and another BEast team for 2014
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That would be a disappointment if fiore decided against that. especially when SHSU has proven to be a great team the past couple of years. It would only be fair for a home and home. But if this turns out to be true, there can be a possible reason: SBU is committed towards playing 2-FBS per season and this might interfere with it. This year we had an open spot because Boston College dropped us. But I believe we have Uconn and another BEast team for 2014
UConn and Cincy, if I remember correctly.
SHSU would have been a great game though.
Fiore will do what is right for the program. He did the right thing already by agreeing to not visiting BC and now probably looking for a home game to start with. Students will be back. I am sure he will get a good home game to start the season on 8/31 with a packed stadium!!!
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Playing two FBS teams in 2014 would be great, but.... lets take a bird in the hand right now, and sign a deal with SH State for a home and home series. this approach would get us a great season opening home game against a great opponent. As we have just seen with BC, those FBS teams will drop FCS teams at the drop of a hat. so there is no guarantee that we will be able to retain the UConn and Cincy games for 2014. just look at how quickly we lost the BC game... Now, if we were contemplating setting up a home/home series with a lower-tier FCS school, then I'd say "no way". but obviously, SH State is a very legit opponent. We should go for it and do the deal for a home/home 2014 anb 2014 match up with the Bear Kats.
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Agreed, book the Sam Houston series right now. Again not a fan of 2 FBS gms.
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Was looking forward to the Kats on Long Island. Hopefully we dont see some D2 program show up.
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Does anyone know if there is a cut-off on scheduling?? What happens if a school can't find a team to play does that school just lose a game or does the Conference intervenes and finds them another School , even if it's a Div 2 or 3??
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some FCS teams play 11 game schedules. SB has been trying to make a habit out of playing 12 game schedules. lets hope that some serious negotiations are in the works to play a legit opponent in Week 1.
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Lehigh just posted their 2013 schedule, they are playing 11 games, and have an opening on August 31. while not my first choice for an opponent... they are a very capable Patriot League contender. Lehigh has won at least 10 straight games in each of the last three seasons and will seek its third Patriot League title in the last four years.
the clock is ticking, we can only wonder what our AD is doing about this situation.
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The date is still open on the schedule so hopefully something is in the works.
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here is Albany's 2013 schedule, a 12 game schedule, pretty straightforward. other than the CAA games, no major challenges except for Old Dominion.
Albany, NY (Sports Network) - The University at Albany football program will play a 12-game schedule with five home dates as it enters CAA Football this season.
The Great Danes ended their run in the Northeast Conference with two straight titles and an FCS playoff berth in 2011.
Albany's home opener at the new 8,500-seat Bob Ford Field also will be its first CAA game as it takes on Rhode Island on Sept. 14.
The Great Danes also will host Central Connecticut State (Sept. 21) in non- conference action as well as new CAA rivals Towson (Oct. 19, Homecoming), Maine (Nov. 9) and New Hampshire (Nov. 16).
2013 ALBANY FOOTBALL SCHEDULE
Aug. 31, at Duquesne
Sept. 7, at Colgate
Sept. 14, Rhode Island*
Sept. 21, Central Connecticut State
Sept. 28, at Old Dominion
Oct. 5, at James Madison*
Oct. 12, at Delaware*
Oct. 19, Towson* (Homecoming)
Nov. 2, at Richmond*
Nov. 9, Maine*
Nov. 16, New Hampshire*
Nov. 23, at Stony Brook*
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FWIW, here's a link to all FCS schedules http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/fcs-schedules/2013-fcs-football-schedules/
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I noticed Liberty only has 9 games scheduled. I think playing them would be easy for the two schools to put together. It's a win win for both schools, no ??
I also noticed the North East conference has a ton of openings in their schedules. This should not be a difficult task to get one of these local schools to play at our home!!!
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Liberty would be a good matchup as would any of the NEC schools. As long as we open at home before our 3 game road trip.
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Hopefully we dont see some D2 program show up.
It won't be a D-II program. The first competition date for D-II in 2013 is Thursday, Sept. 5.
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We got a game (scrimmage) at home for Week 1, August 31!! against U Penn. at least its something..... :-\
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I realize that the significance of the word "scrimmage" is that it won't count on the official record. But, does anyone know whether the game will be played in accordance with all the official rules? Or, is it more like the spring game was (i.e. it's own unique rules, with the QBs being off-limits to being hit)?
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At least we are playing an FCS opponent and not some Div2 team ... Playing Penn is a good start to the season and it should help with getting the rust out of our guys !
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fuc* my life.... are you kidding me....
you telling me I need to pay LIRR fares all the way from NYC for a damn scrimmage... at least try and make it official. I don't mind the fact its UPenn... I do mind that it is a scrimmage... :/
I'm not satisfied. I'm ANGRY!
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ecasadoSBU.. You have a valid point. Why couldn't SB and Penn just make this the first game of the season instead of a scrimmage game ??? I really did not understand that whole thing why SB could not find another school to play after BC dumped us. It can't be that difficult to accomplish.
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Actually. I know why.... The Ivy has a strict 10-game schedule. I remember reading that a couple of years ago. So that hasn't changed. Ivy doesn't even participate in the FCS championship. Oh well... I guess I'll need to settle for a scrimmage. I hope fans show up and open up the season on a good note. Lets go Seawolves
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as for the rules of engagement and contact in a scrimmage vs. a spring game, I think that will be up to the two coaching staffs. seems like they would want to protect the qbs since this is not an actual game. but at the high school level, i have seen some pretty good hitting in the "scrimmage" games that usually preceed the season openers.
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Just might pass on this one. Wait until Towson shows up later in the month.
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Do other teams in either the FCS or FBS schedule scrimmage games at the beginning of the Football season?? Aug 31 is the start of regular season for a lot of schools. Why are we playing a scrimmage game?? I think they should just forget about that and just play the opening game a week later!.... Is it because SB could not find another school to play on the 31st so lets schedule a non eventful game with Penn !! Makes no sense!!!
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Priore probably thinks there's some advantage to "prime" the team with a scrimmage before the real season begins. I suppose it's arguable, but he knows better than I do.
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thats what im thinking. he knows better than i do. in priore i trust!
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lets put it this way, a scrimmage is better than an extra week of practicing against ourselves.... its a shame that we could not find an opponent for an actual game in Week 1. who knows, maybe the local FCS teams like Liberty and others were not willing to schedule SB? that would have been a very good game. Or Sam Houston State, a home and home series?? did not happen. We did get a payoff by BC for dropping us in favor of Nova, so at least we put some cash in our pocket from that disaster.
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here is an interesting article on FCS scheduling, how some teams went too strong, and others went too weak. this article is right in line with what we have been talking about recently.
check out a couple of these teams, playing three FBS teams...
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/news/news.aspx?id=4600480
I am sure that Coach P was trying to avoid a horrendous start to the season, considering we had so many road games to start the season.
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Good read !!
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I think on the upside -it is a home game sort of and maybe a good tailgate day to get the season going. Wonder how it will played? A lite version of a real game or like some of the scrimmages I have us play.
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now here is a FCS team with some balls to play both Oregon State and Wash State this fall.
Eastern Washington to visit Washington State again
Cheney, WA (Sports Network) -
Eastern Washington will play a Pac-12 opponent for the sixth straight year in 2016 when it visits Washington State.
The Sept. 3 game will be played at Martin Stadium in Pullman.
Washington State edged the Big Sky Conference team, 24-20, last Sept. 8 in the first varsity meeting between the two schools since 1908.
"It's always a fun and unique challenge to play a Pac-12 team, especially one just down the road from us," EWU coach Beau Baldwin said of the matchup between schools located less than 100 miles apart from each other. "The proximity of the schools adds to the excitement of the game."
EWU, which finished with an 11-3 record after reaching the FCS national semifinals last season, will kick off its 2013 campaign on Aug. 31 at Oregon State.
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I would love to see ESU squeak out a win against one or both of those FBS foes !!!
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I hope everyone had a safe and enjoyable 4th. the boys wrap up the first session of summer football today, then its into the home stretch of July, with four weeks til Fall football starts. we are almost there!! ;D
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Finally! Not to rush 2013 out the door in July but getting back into sports is a good thing.
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Seawolves to open 2015 season at Toledo
http://www.goseawolves.org/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/041714aaa.html
Another FBS!!
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Toledo from the MAC 2015. Not bad not bad. Lets go WOLVES!!!!!
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Stacey Bedell is a top 20 RB for the 2017 Draft. Something to look forward to!!
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2017/RB
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Toledo is good program to play next year. Good future line up of FBS programs coming up. Per the FBS Future Schedules site we play - 2016 Temple , 2017 USF
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I guess the first home game will be without a Tailgate party!! BOOOOOOOO..
http://www.goseawolves.org/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/041814aab.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
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I guess the first home game will be without a Tailgate party!! BOOOOOOOO..
http://www.goseawolves.org/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/041814aab.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
Its a night game, isn't it? Why can't we tailgate?
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I guess the first home game will be without a Tailgate party!! BOOOOOOOO..
http://www.goseawolves.org/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/041814aab.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
Its a night game, isn't it? Why can't we tailgate?
Most people including me will probably going to the game straight from work... I know i will be!!
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As will I...but I assume the start is no earlier than 7...maybe duck out a little early, still some time to tailgate
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I suppose. Trying to get everybody together on a work week for a tailgate is going to be tough.
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That's true...I am actually excited for it...beats possibly roasting in the sun in August, and, as much as I like going to SB football games, it keeps Labor Day Weekend free
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I wouldve love to have labor day weekend football... but I guess Ill be too sick to work that thursday. LOL
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looks like Aug 28th game will be on the first week of school, great news, should have lots of students on campus for a thursday night game, since Friday is a day of classes before the Labor Day holiday.
http://www.stonybrook.edu/registrar/calendar-academic.shtml
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That Thursday game is going to be a great opportunity for student to pregame tailgate and after the game his ladies night at the bench or one of the millions of opening week parties. LOVE it
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I took a ride today to the SB arena for one more last look at my seat selection and ran into a Football insider and we were talking about OFC scheduling. After this season, Stony Brook will no longer be scheduling div2 teams to play. I thought I would pass it along to you guys.. That is good for rankings going forward. .
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That is great news. Its about time. This DII games really kill me. I though last year would be the last year. I Guess 2014 will be the last!
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Hammer, i think you are referring to Game 3 against American International Univ. they are indeed D2, but they have a decent program. finished 9-3 last year, 8-1 in their conference and made the NCAA D2 tourney. they got bounced in the first round. The game may be well placed in our schedule, its right after the UCONN game and the is the week ahead of our long road trip to North Dakota. anyway...yes, it will be nice to focus on D1 schools from here on out. tho I doubt Coach P will schedule two FBS opponents in one season, do you? thanks for getting that great info tho.
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That is good news. There are plenty of FCS programs that we could arrange a home and away deal namely the PL, Ivy, NEC the Big South etc. One FBS team per season should be good . Strength of schedule is important for play off selection . AIC is good at the D2 level but we should roll them this year by 2 TD's if we plan to be contender.
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BFF. Last year we were suppose to play two FBS teams but BC backed out at the last minute so we only played Buffalo. Stranger things have happened so you never know. I guess it all comes down to money, too. Playing two FBS teams in one year is a nice payday. I think the days of div2 are behind us if we ever want to move up in conference. I also think our new AD has big plans for this university down the road so I would think he would want us to have a tough OFC for name recognition as well. Just my thoughts on him!!
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Two FBS schools in one season while participating in one of the toughest FCS conferences like the CAA doesn't sound like a smart thing to do... so I'm sure there is no plans for that. We already have a tough schedule as is... Adding an additional FBS school makes it even harder to get to the seven+ wins threshold for FCS playoff qualification
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Yes I agree with eddie, playing 2 fbs gms will not help you make the playoffs. The move to the CAA should be enough. Besides with the new FBS playoff system and committee you are going to see less FBS vs FCS in the next few yrs or maybe none. It would make more sense to drop the D2 team for a good FCS opponent. You do not want to schedule yourself out of a playoff spot when you play in the toughest FCS div to begin with. I hope all levels stop playing lower level teams.
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I could think of few good FCS match ups for us - Fordham, Holy Cross maybe a home and away with Liberty again. Lots of possibilities. I think as far as FBS you will see us play schools in the MAC, AAC, Conf USA and maybe the Sunbelt. The major conferences are going on their merry way to play each other.
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hofstra?
:P
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Agree with you guys. I'd love to see home-and-homes against Liberty and/or Coastal, or any of the "local" teams. Just about anyone from the Patriot, NEC, the Ivies, or teams like Marist would be great.
There are plenty of options to avoid the D2's.
hofstra?
:P
Nice!
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OMG ..I am jonesing for College Football already!!
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i cant wait!!! still a long summer before CFB!!!
SEAWOLVES!!!!!!!!
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the boys are working hard, summer school and summer football conditioning right now.
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Next season Football schedule is out and no div2 on the schedule, yeaaaaaa!!!!!
http://www.stonybrookathletics.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/120914aab.html
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Schedule is out early. That's good. @Toledo is winnable right?
But I'm not too happy with the fact we around down to 11 games
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Schedule is out early. That's good. @Toledo is winnable right?
But I'm not too happy with the fact we around down to 11 games
Me neither.. but at least we have 6 home games. 3 of them are easy wins (Elon, Howard, CCSU). Albany and Towson don't scare me either.
How come we haven't played Delaware since we moved to CAAFB?
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I also hope we schedule Fordham every year in future.. an ascending team.. will provide a much needed local NYC/LI rivalry game each year by alternating hosting the game.
They got a lot of press from New York Times for the playoff run:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/28/sports/ncaafootball/fordham-finds-key-to-success-and-drills-it-home.html?_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/16/sports/ncaafootball/athletes-at-fordham-do-what-truman-once-did.html
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Schedule is out early. That's good. @Toledo is winnable right?
But I'm not too happy with the fact we around down to 11 games
Me neither.. but at least we have 6 home games. 3 of them are easy wins (Elon, Howard, CCSU). Albany and Towson don't scare me either.
How come we haven't played Delaware since we moved to CAAFB?
I believe this is an FCS rule. FCS teams typically only play 11 games. Sometimes, however, schedules allow a 12th to be scheduled. Last year was one of them, it's certainly possible that this year isn't.
Fordham would be a great scheduling option - although it's likely that they don't want to play us. Like many schools trying to make the playoffs winnability is a part of OOC scheduling. We can beat CCSU and Howard. Toledo will be tough, but they lose a few key starters (and possibly their coach, who is a stud).
I see 9 wins in that schedule, particularly with a more experienced Bednarski at the helm and Bedell returning.
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interesting that we seem to have the same CAA foes this year as last, which is sort of good. we dont play Nova or Richmond. I was expecting to play them. I had not heard of that deal where FCS only play 11 game schedule. are you sure about that? maybe there is a chance we pick up a game before the Toledo game.
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all of the CAA teams played 12 regualr season games this season. but now looking at the JMU 2015 schedule, they only have 11 games in 2015 also. maybe it has to do with the late Labor Day weekend in 2015, this gives a late start to the season, and then with playoffs, you have to finish up your season by late Nov to be ready for playoffs.
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Just glad there are no Div II games. They don't help with rankings or playoff qualification and could actually hurt by exposing players to injury.
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I think BigFatFan is right. It all comes down to how early the season can start (Labor Day Weekend)
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I seem to recall that SB was supposed to have a Home and Home series with North Dakota. I thought they were supposed to travel to SBU in 2015 to fulfill their half of the deal.
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never mind, from the archives: Stony Brook will head to Big Sky Country to face North Dakota on September 20. The Seawolves, who lost to UND, 31-24, in 2009, will host North Dakota in the season opener in 2016.
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WOW!! Not that it matters to us but, Towson just landed an ESPN 4 star Quarterback transfer from Miami. He comes to Towson with a ton of legal mess but still a top 87th Q in 2013.. Look at all the SEC schools who offered him scholarships...
Between JMU Lee and now Towson with Olsen the CAA is going to be real tough come next season!!!!!!
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/132528/kevin-olsen
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and we play both of those teams again next season.
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mug shot from his DUI?
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Coach P would not be recruiting this kid.
Fox Sports' Bruce Feldman reports that former Miami redshirt freshman QB Kevin Olsen has transferred to Towson.
The former four-star recruit had previously been suspended for a failed drug test and was suspended by the Hurricanes for a third time. Olsen was charged with a DUI and having a fake or stolen driver's license. Last year there were reports that surfaced that head coach Al Golden was not pleased with Olsen's development.
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mug shot from his DUI?
DUI is just for starters!!!!!!!!
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This Kid is a mess but apparently Towson is overlooking his demons. desperate times calls for desperate measures!!!!!!!!!
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Taking a guy with such a questionable character is exactly the way a program can get burned. They can take all the wins the want on the field I'm glad SBU is not recruiting a guy like that.
I know Coach P has give a second chance to some guys like Coker, etc but these guy seems far more problematic than that
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I had some free time and spent it updating the SB football wiki page.
I think ecasadoSBU usually updates it.
Added few more sections and tables (1-Conference Championships table, 2-Playoffs section and table and 3-Future non-conference opponents table);
Added the Red and Grey colors in the table headers;
Updated the future non-conference opponents with links;
Added the "Rivalries" section and added Albany and linked to the Empire Clash wiki page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stony_Brook_Seawolves_football
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Good job man. Yeah, I extensively edited most of the SBU related articles but now I find myself with so little time that I can't even dedicate times to the things I love like free writing and researching.
Its good to see other people picking up.
Lets go Seawolves!!
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thanks- looks good.
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Stony Brook not getting the love they deserve from the CAA!
http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20160517105614685595304&ref=hea&tm=&src=FCS
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Stony Brook not getting the love they deserve from the CAA!
All the Seawolves have to do is beat Temple, and that will change. GO SEAWOLVES!!
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Temple was an FBS Top 25 Team last year for most of the season. We have an uphill hill battle.
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Temple was an FBS Top 25 Team last year for most of the season. We have an uphill hill battle.
This game wont be close. On defense we will obviously give up some points, but my biggest concern is on offense. If we don't find a viable quarterback this season we could potentially get shutout...My biggest concern are injuries. Lets just get out of this game injury free. Temple is a good team!!
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Just looking at the schedule and we play four ranked teams this season. Richmond 4, William and Mary 13, North Dakota 15 and Towson 18 . Add in Temple which could be very well ranked after last season and we have a tough schedule. No cupcakes home or away .
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Just looking at the schedule and we play four ranked teams this season. Richmond 4, William and Mary 13, North Dakota 15 and Towson 18 . Add in Temple which could be very well ranked after last season and we have a tough schedule. No cupcakes home or away .
I think think it's great for the team to be challenged like this. This will show the coaches where they stand and where the team stands as a whole, and where it needs to improve. I am not expecting much this season again, but I wont be as disappointed if we lose against teams like, Temple, ND and Richmond and WM, even though I think by now, we should not be getting blown out against other CAA teams!!!!!!
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I agree and hopefully we finish 5-6 in November. I don't expect a playoff berth this season but more of a middle of the pack finish.
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Reading our AD's Blog today we will have future home games against Wagner , Bryant and Fordham and road Games at Air Force 2018 and Fordham .
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Just wanted to attach the 2017 FB schedule
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Thanks looks good !
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Just and FYI we paly at Utah St in Sept 2019 the contract is signed . Just picked this up on another board . That's two trips out west since we will play Air Force in 2018.
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those are all good games. I just hope this team is up to it and we get some very good QB play happening this season.
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Another game out West . 2021 at the Oregon Ducks a Pac 12 power . Confirmed on Future FBS schedules
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how is Fields looking in spring ball?
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I like that we're playing more teams out west, but why the change? We were playing AAC and MAC teams (usually during or coming off of one of their best seasons in program history, but that's another point) that were relatively close by and could be potential conference mates in the future.
Actually, I just remembered Heilbron is a west coast guy having come from Oregon St. and UCLA, I feel like these might be due to his connections. AFA, Utah St., and Oregon.
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I think that could be it and probably for recruiting out West . Get our name out there . The next few years I don't see any UConns or Buffalo on our schedule.
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2018 football schedule was released today:
https://twitter.com/StonyBrookFB/status/925802124411203584
http://www.stonybrookathletics.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=320
Conference schedule is going to tougher than this year. Except RI, all other 7 CAA games would be challenging. Can't wait.
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The schedule looks great except for only 5 home games but Fordham is only 40 miles away.
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I got my extra home game 20 blocks away in the Bronx! I been waiting for this match up for years. Lets gooo SBU!
Great and tough schedule
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The schedule looks great except for only 5 home games but Fordham is only 40 miles away.
Per your AGS post, it's a four game series. I thought Fordham series is only two games. But four games even better. Local team. May be a new rivalry will start. Hope these will be competitive games. Smart scheduling. I would rather play Fordham than CCSU or Bryant.
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I love the Fordham series. That'll be a great game for both fan bases.
The schedule in conference is challenging as it always is. We lucked out a bit this year, but we're guaranteed at least 6 tough games in conference annually so this is really so shocker. I just wish we had the Bryant game later in the year. I like the idea of adopting the SEC strategy where you play your "cupcake" game in the second to last week of the season.
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I got my extra home game 20 blocks away in the Bronx! I been waiting for this match up for years. Lets gooo SBU!
Great and tough schedule
I used to patrol the streets in that area of the Bronx way back when. Looking forward to going to this game...
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I got my extra home game 20 blocks away in the Bronx! I been waiting for this match up for years. Lets gooo SBU!
Great and tough schedule
I used to patrol the streets in that area of the Bronx way back when. Looking forward to going to this game...
Fordham alum are extremely arrogant and for no good reason! They think they are right up there with the Ivy League, but they are not even close! Hope, the Seawolves give the Rams a major beat down. Their basketball have been floundering for ages and their football has been sliding downhill.
Plus, no lacrosse - get with the times!
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I know we play Air Force and Utah St but we still have a blank FBS team in 2020. Any rumors or ideas who we might schedule if anybody . Wouldn't surprise me we take a year off and play a strong FCS team home or away instead of an FBS team.
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I think it's Syracuse and then Oregon the following year
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Thanks that is a good matchup for us. We almost beat the Orange a few years back .
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I think it's Syracuse and then Oregon the following year
A game against Cuse would be great. Winnable if we had this year's team for sure. Hope it happens.
I also understand every four years we get the option of a 12th game. I'm usually not in favor of taking it ,but maybe we could take that game and use it as an opportunity to play an elite FCS team out of conference like a NDSU, Montana, Jacksonville St., Eastern Washington, etc. Someone like that.
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I think this guy has SB picked correctly in the CAA after week two.
https://www.fcsfansnation.com/stories/2018/9/10/caa-wtf
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18th??? .
http://www.college-sports-journal.com/college-sports-journal-fcs-top-25-after-week-2-september-11-2018/
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while i agree it is gratuitous, dont forget that some of these pollsters are either guys who just look at scores and power rankings and returning players. the ones that use a committee at least have experts on the ground in each conference. and even that's not perfect.
also keep in mind- while things have changed in the last 10-15 years with respect to live streaming, FCS football is still not as high profile or broadcast and again i think some pollsters arent watching the results on the field. even if they did, how to compare against over 100 teams. impossible.
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Interesting poll but I tend to agree with his picks. Saturday is a must win for us and with a wide margin we cant slip up again,
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Interesting poll but I tend to agree with his picks. Saturday is a must win for us and with a wide margin we cant slip up again,
I actually think 18th is very generous for SB, at this time. I agree with TCSJ that Carbone needs to start throwing the ball with more accuracy if SB has any chance of making the playoffs. This conference is wild this year and last year dogs are all of a sudden this year darlings. SB as of today, still only looks like a middle of the road team in the CAA
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I can see us winning 4 CAA games this year in close ones. There are no easy teams around this season so 4-4 in CAA with two non conference wins gives us 6-5 for 2018. The CAA teams we should beat are Richmond, Albany , Towson and UNH since there starting QB is out injured and may not return . The other 4 games we will be in but not being able to pull a win . Don't be surprised if Villanova or Maine knocks off JMU also . The Wildcats and the Black Bears are very good this year.
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agreed on nova and maine. JMU might be a runaway this year, but even dominant teams stumble, given a sport like football.
rhody is just mind boggling- the turnaround. i like ua where they are, but know that it will still be a contest.
GO SB
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I can see us winning 4 CAA games this year in close ones. There are no easy teams around this season so 4-4 in CAA with two non conference wins gives us 6-5 for 2018. The CAA teams we should beat are Richmond, Albany , Towson and UNH since there starting QB is out injured and may not return . The other 4 games we will be in but not being able to pull a win . Don't be surprised if Villanova or Maine knocks off JMU also . The Wildcats and the Black Bears are very good this year.
You know, I'd kinda be ok with a season like that. 6-5 was my expectation this year, so if that's where we wind up I wouldn't be all that upset. Whether or not that's enough to retain Coach P is another story. If we can't win at least one of those big games against an elite team, I'd like to see us go in another direction if we can identify a suitable candidate. I'm not taking the Richmond or New Hampshire games for granted either.
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I can see us winning 4 CAA games this year in close ones. There are no easy teams around this season so 4-4 in CAA with two non conference wins gives us 6-5 for 2018. The CAA teams we should beat are Richmond, Albany , Towson and UNH since there starting QB is out injured and may not return . The other 4 games we will be in but not being able to pull a win . Don't be surprised if Villanova or Maine knocks off JMU also . The Wildcats and the Black Bears are very good this year.
You know, I'd kinda be ok with a season like that. 6-5 was my expectation this year, so if that's where we wind up I wouldn't be all that upset. Whether or not that's enough to retain Coach P is another story. If we can't win at least one of those big games against an elite team, I'd like to see us go in another direction if we can identify a suitable candidate. I'm not taking the Richmond or New Hampshire games for granted either.
I think Fordham will set the tone for the rest of the season. If SB pulls off an impressive game on the road and wins big, then there is a chance they go 7-4 and make the playoffs.
I just dont see them beating Delaware, Rhode Island, Villanova, or even Towson this year. But who knows. Anything can happen in this league. Either way, I see coach P getting a one-year contract extension regardless if they make the playoff or not.
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https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2018/10/31/football-seven-home-games-and-fbs-foe-utah-state-highlight-the-seawolves-12-game-2019-schedule.aspx
Seven Home Games and FBS Foe Utah State Highlight the Seawolves' 12-Game 2019 Schedule
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https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2018/10/31/football-seven-home-games-and-fbs-foe-utah-state-highlight-the-seawolves-12-game-2019-schedule.aspx
Seven Home Games and FBS Foe Utah State Highlight the Seawolves' 12-Game 2019 Schedule
Of course, Utah State is first in the MW conference and are 7-1 for the season with a win over AF.
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I like the 7 games at home that's cool .
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That's a fantastic schedule!! Seven home games is a fantastic number of games. We'll be coming off of two consecutive good seasons too, so attendance should be strong. Even FBS teams don't always get 7 home games.
My only wish is that instead of playing Wagner or Bryant, we challenged ourselves by getting stronger OOC opponent like an Eastern Washington, Jacksonville State, etc. If we're going to play 12 games, I wish we'd have gotten another one in against an elite opponent instead of another NEC team. Can't complain too much though. Utah State is a top 25ish FBS team right now according to the computers, so that's one you can mark in the loss column in all likelihood. There's a reason we play the games though.
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That's a fantastic schedule!! Seven home games is a fantastic number of games. We'll be coming off of two consecutive good seasons too, so attendance should be strong. Even FBS teams don't always get 7 home games.
My only wish is that instead of playing Wagner or Bryant, we challenged ourselves by getting stronger OOC opponent like an Eastern Washington, Jacksonville State, etc. If we're going to play 12 games, I wish we'd have gotten another one in against an elite opponent instead of another NEC team. Can't complain too much though. Utah State is a top 25ish FBS team right now according to the computers, so that's one you can mark in the loss column in all likelihood. There's a reason we play the games though.
I agree, VA. I would like to see SB play tougher opponents but I guess Wagner and Bryant will always be on SB schedule. Just curious if 8 wins next year reassures us a spot in the playoffs or will it be 9 because of the 12 game schedule.
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in an attempt to put the schedule together (dates right?):
8/31 Bryant
9/7 @ USU
9/14 Wagner
9/21 Fordham
9/28 @ URI
10/5 JMU
10/12 UNH
10/19 bye
10/26 @ Nova
11/2 @ Richmond
11/9 Towson
11/16 @ Delaware
11/23 ualbany
all those home games during good weather will be good for attendance.
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sorry if this is old news but we are playing oregon in the future: https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2019/9/5/together-we-transform-blog-together-we-transform-thursday-september-5-2019.aspx
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The new news is that UMass is on the docket for 2022! Could be a winnable game for us.
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UMass will be a good match up for us. They are not over whelming but Oregon is another story in 2021. Thats more than an uphill battle. The Ducks are always in the FBS Top 15 and play a high powered style offense.
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Oregon we've known about for a while. We're not winning that one. If we lose by less than 5 touchdowns, that's a win in and of itself. They're pulling in top 5 recruiting classes under their current coach.
As for UMass, I'd be surprised if we didn't win that one tbh, though their program is better than you might think. They're not Uconn.
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https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2019/11/21/stony-brook-unveils-the-11-game-2020-football-schedule.aspx
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Fall without Stony Brook football feels so unusual. I miss it so much.
It's going to be a longggggggg year
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Fall without Stony Brook football feels so unusual. I miss it so much.
It's going to be a longggggggg year
Nope. We still have NDSU and other FCS teams playing Football. Not to mention, all P5 conference are playing football again. I'm good with that!
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Fall without Stony Brook football feels so unusual. I miss it so much.
It's going to be a longggggggg year
Nope. We still have NDSU and other FCS teams playing Football. Not to mention, all P5 conference are playing football again. I'm good with that!
I'm in agreement. The spring FCS season essentially gives us football year round in some shape or form until early 2022. That said, I don't want spring football to be a permanent thing for the FCS as some have suggested. Doing it as a one-off for this year only is fine to me.
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Probably already posted in another thread...
RICHMOND, Va. (September 30, 2020) – CAA Football is making plans to play a six-game conference schedule that includes the option for institutions to add up to two non-conference contests during the Spring 2021 season.
The conference will use a North/South divisional format, with all six league games coming against teams within the division. The team with the best overall conference record will be the conference’s automatic qualifier to the NCAA Football Championship. Should the divisional champions finish with the same record, a tiebreaking policy will be used to determine the automatic qualifier.
Conference play is anticipated to begin on March 6 and conclude on April 17, with each team receiving a bye week during the seven-week timeframe. Institutions are allowed to schedule “non-conference” games against other conference members, but those games would not count towards the conference standings and the outcome would not be used in the tiebreaking procedures. Based on NCAA guidelines, teams are allowed to begin non-conference competition as early as January 23.
https://caasports.com/news/2020/9/29/caa-football-announces-scheduling-format-for-spring-2021-season.aspx
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Better late than never
Looking forward to it!
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looking forward to it too- im now hoping for the previous impossible- the trifecta- saturday at noon mlax defeats albanY in Lavalle, 3pm mbball defeats aLBanY in IFCU, 7pm football defeats ualBaNY in Lavalle.
perfect saturday???
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Probably already posted in another thread...
RICHMOND, Va. (September 30, 2020) – CAA Football is making plans to play a six-game conference schedule that includes the option for institutions to add up to two non-conference contests during the Spring 2021 season.
The conference will use a North/South divisional format, with all six league games coming against teams within the division. The team with the best overall conference record will be the conference’s automatic qualifier to the NCAA Football Championship. Should the divisional champions finish with the same record, a tiebreaking policy will be used to determine the automatic qualifier.
Conference play is anticipated to begin on March 6 and conclude on April 17, with each team receiving a bye week during the seven-week timeframe. Institutions are allowed to schedule “non-conference” games against other conference members, but those games would not count towards the conference standings and the outcome would not be used in the tiebreaking procedures. Based on NCAA guidelines, teams are allowed to begin non-conference competition as early as January 23.
https://caasports.com/news/2020/9/29/caa-football-announces-scheduling-format-for-spring-2021-season.aspx
Ok. Now we are talking!!! I was not aware of this. This is huge
I don't care when it is. To have Stony Brook football sometime in this academic year is awesome
You just got me excited!!!! LETS GO SEAWOLVES!
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Fall without Stony Brook football feels so unusual. I miss it so much.
It's going to be a longggggggg year
Nope. We still have NDSU and other FCS teams playing Football. Not to mention, all P5 conference are playing football again. I'm good with that!
I must admit I don't watch much College football outside of Stony Brook FB. I do watch a TON of college basketball outside of SBU-MBB (especially the Big East - St. Johns, SHU, and UConn), actually I watch more Big East basketball than SBU basketball tbh.
But with that said. I was not aware of the potential for FCS Spring Football. I'm very happy today. Thank you guys for filling me in on that great news.
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Go Seawolves! Looking forward watching them play in the spring. Fields is a stud
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If money is an issue for SB then why not play two FBS schools a year, as Maine does.
https://twitter.com/FCS_Football/status/1360034863231959043?s=19
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If money is an issue for SB then why not play two FBS schools a year, as Maine does.
https://twitter.com/FCS_Football/status/1360034863231959043?s=19
They don't want to be embarrassed two times a season. They're going against Oregon this year, which is expected to start the season ranked in the top-7. I'm guessing the o/u will be in the mid to high 50's range, and that's not a joke. I'll probably take that. Remember, Utah State demolished SBU last year, and Air Force the year before. Oregon is in a whole other league compared to those teams.
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If money is an issue for SB then why not play two FBS schools a year, as Maine does.
https://twitter.com/FCS_Football/status/1360034863231959043?s=19
They don't want to be embarrassed two times a season. They're going against Oregon this year, which is expected to start the season ranked in the top-7. I'm guessing the o/u will be in the mid to high 50's range, and that's not a joke. I'll probably take that. Remember, Utah State demolished SBU last year, and Air Force the year before. Oregon is in a whole other league compared to those teams.
I'd take the Over as well. SB usually embarrasses themselves playing teams in the Northeast conference anyways, so when not play 2 FBS teams and be paid for the punishment!!
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Two bodybag games a year only allows for one other FCS OOC game. I'm not totally against playing two FBS schools, but perhaps only playing one P5 school a year would be better. It's not like the programs we've been playing recently are bad. Utah St. had their QB go in the first round last year and those triple option academies are always tough.
If they're two somewhat winnable FBS games then I wouldn't be opposed to that. If we lose to Oregon by less than 4 touchdowns I'd call that a huge win personally.
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We sometimes tend to recruit (depending on the year) in the northern atlantic coast- MD, NJ, etc. Why not play in those backyards if we can get the game and pull off an upset, win over some recruits? Especially if bus trips are all the rage! 8)
Temple, UMd, Rutgers, Pitt, UConn, Navy, etc.
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Two bodybag games a year only allows for one other FCS OOC game. I'm not totally against playing two FBS schools, but perhaps only playing one P5 school a year would be better. It's not like the programs we've been playing recently are bad. Utah St. had their QB go in the first round last year and those triple option academies are always tough.
If they're two somewhat winnable FBS games then I wouldn't be opposed to that. If we lose to Oregon by less than 4 touchdowns I'd call that a huge win personally.
That's a good argument as well.. I know why SB tries to schedule one P5 game. The money is better. Maine is getting $650,000 just to play 2 games whereas SB can make that playing just one P5 game, but. Why doesn't SB try and schedule games against UMASS, UCONN, schools in the MAC They did once and almost beat UCONN. Schedule 2, G5 schools for the price of 1 P5 school, make the same money but put a show on for your fans. God forbid SB actually wins a game or two.
This football team really needs a kick in the ass. If you want to fill that stadium then some wins against FBS competition is whats needed. Play Oregon, get paid well, but look like a Donkey ass and total embarrassment. Or play 2 G5 schools and win 1 or 2. Look like a hero. I'd take the hero over the Tuna flop!!
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Oregon is forking over $625,000 for SBU to get the **** smacked out of em.
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Two bodybag games a year only allows for one other FCS OOC game. I'm not totally against playing two FBS schools, but perhaps only playing one P5 school a year would be better. It's not like the programs we've been playing recently are bad. Utah St. had their QB go in the first round last year and those triple option academies are always tough.
If they're two somewhat winnable FBS games then I wouldn't be opposed to that. If we lose to Oregon by less than 4 touchdowns I'd call that a huge win personally.
That's a good argument as well.. I know why SB tries to schedule one P5 game. The money is better. Maine is getting $650,000 just to play 2 games whereas SB can make that playing just one P5 game, but. Why doesn't SB try and schedule games against UMASS, UCONN, schools in the MAC They did once and almost beat UCONN. Schedule 2, G5 schools for the price of 1 P5 school, make the same money but put a show on for your fans. God forbid SB actually wins a game or two.
This football team really needs a kick in the ass. If you want to fill that stadium then some wins against FBS competition is whats needed. Play Oregon, get paid well, but look like a Donkey ass and total embarrassment. Or play 2 G5 schools and win 1 or 2. Look like a hero. I'd take the hero over the Tuna flop!!
Stony Brook is playing UMass in 2022, looks to be their only winnable FBS since the near loss to UConn in 2014. Nothing scheduled for '23 or '24, and then off to San Diego State in '25.
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Two bodybag games a year only allows for one other FCS OOC game. I'm not totally against playing two FBS schools, but perhaps only playing one P5 school a year would be better. It's not like the programs we've been playing recently are bad. Utah St. had their QB go in the first round last year and those triple option academies are always tough.
If they're two somewhat winnable FBS games then I wouldn't be opposed to that. If we lose to Oregon by less than 4 touchdowns I'd call that a huge win personally.
That's a good argument as well.. I know why SB tries to schedule one P5 game. The money is better. Maine is getting $650,000 just to play 2 games whereas SB can make that playing just one P5 game, but. Why doesn't SB try and schedule games against UMASS, UCONN, schools in the MAC They did once and almost beat UCONN. Schedule 2, G5 schools for the price of 1 P5 school, make the same money but put a show on for your fans. God forbid SB actually wins a game or two.
This football team really needs a kick in the ass. If you want to fill that stadium then some wins against FBS competition is whats needed. Play Oregon, get paid well, but look like a Donkey ass and total embarrassment. Or play 2 G5 schools and win 1 or 2. Look like a hero. I'd take the hero over the Tuna flop!!
Stony Brook is playing UMass in 2022, looks to be their only winnable FBS since the near loss to UConn in 2014. Nothing scheduled for '23 or '24, and then off to San Diego State in '25.
No FBS scheduled for '23 and '24? Interesting. There are a ton of G5 schools along the East Coast. Maybe SB needs to get their heads out of their A$$ and find a school closer to NY. who's willing to play them.
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SDSU was originally planned for 2022 but got pushed back to 2025 after securing the UMass game.
Arkansas State is for 2023 (Sun Belt). https://fbschedules.com/arkansas-state-adds-stony-brook-to-2023-football-schedule/
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SDSU was originally planned for 2022 but got pushed back to 2025 after securing the UMass game.
Arkansas State is for 2023 (Sun Belt). https://fbschedules.com/arkansas-state-adds-stony-brook-to-2023-football-schedule/
Never heard about the Arkansas State game. $280k for that game seems kinda low though. That's definitely on the lower end for FCS buy games at the very least. I'd classify Arkansas State as winnable depending on what kind of talent we still have in the program and whether or not we still have Coach P by then.
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true.
let's ballpark this- moving ~60 athletes, a dozen coaches, trainers, media, admins, etc. to arkansas, hotels/food, per diem, buses, flights?
what do we net on this, even if we win?
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true.
let's ballpark this- moving ~60 athletes, a dozen coaches, trainers, media, admins, etc. to arkansas, hotels/food, per diem, buses, flights?
what do we net on this, even if we win?
Media? They don't pay for media members to go with the team. Unless you mean the team's SID, which was Brian Miller, and he left SBU sometime since March.
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correct, i mean SID, stats, etc.
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I did a double take. SB is playing arkansas state and their only getting $285k? Who negotiated that? And its two years away? Why so little? They could have played this fall and did all buy games and made money.
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I did a double take. SB is playing arkansas state and their only getting $285k? Who negotiated that? And its two years away? Why so little? They could have played this fall and did all buy games and made money.
SH is the AD, right? My guess is he is responsible for scheduling. I'm sure UMASS or UCONN would pay the same $$$$$
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Saw this on twitter:
https://twitter.com/fcs_stats/status/1486378178830606338?s=21
@UMass on September 17th.
CoB or any other Mod, is it possible to rename this thread to “Future Football Schedule”. It has been a nice long thread and would be nice to just continue this instead of opening one each year.
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We all know how terrible UMass is. Despite them being FBS, I'd be disappointed if we don't win that game tbh.
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Thank you Mod
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I have recieved word the 2022 schedule will drop tomorrow.
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https://stonybrookathletics.com/sports/football/schedule
2022 schedule dropped.
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https://stonybrookathletics.com/sports/football/schedule
2022 schedule dropped.
UMASS is definitely a winnable game. But then again it all depends on who our starting QB will be.
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Albany in mid-season? Should be the finale.
Also don’t like that our bye is in the second week. Too early for a rest.
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That’s because of the two new teams
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https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/39047353/ncaa-proposes-rule-let-schools-athletes-enter-nil-deals
Will this effect SBU in any ways???
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https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/39047353/ncaa-proposes-rule-let-schools-athletes-enter-nil-deals
Will this effect SBU in any ways???
Here comes the new subdivision I been thinking about for a while now.
We are getting closer to an updated model where the P5 (soon to be P4) can be separated from everyone else.
How will this effect SBU? We are obviously in the "have nots" group. There is no way we can compete with the P4.
But if the non-P4 Division-I schools somehow band together to do a single NCAA Football Championship for them I think it would be a good offering. That's the part I would love to see.
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https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/39047353/ncaa-proposes-rule-let-schools-athletes-enter-nil-deals
Will this effect SBU in any ways???
Here comes the new subdivision I been thinking about for a while now.
We are getting closer to an updated model where the P5 (soon to be P4) can be separated from everyone else.
How will this effect SBU? We are obviously in the "have nots" group. There is no way we can compete with the P4.
But if the non-P4 Division-I schools somehow band together to do a single NCAA Football Championship for them I think it would be a good offering. That's the part I would love to see.
The article mentions D1. Not FCS. I hope this includes D1 FCS
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Here is the schedule for this season. They should be Stonehill.
https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2024/1/10/football-announces-2024-schedule-to-face-sun-belt-opponent-and-two-fcs-quarterfinalists.aspx
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Here is the schedule for this season. They should be Stonehill.
https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2024/1/10/football-announces-2024-schedule-to-face-sun-belt-opponent-and-two-fcs-quarterfinalists.aspx
No surprises in the schedule. Not much excitement.
Just glad I get to watch SBU locally in the Bronx.
At least we have normal football schedule this year with a mid-season bye and the last game on 11/23. Felt weird last year to be over a whole month before everyone else.
Looking forward to a fresh start. Strongly considering signing up for season tix again now that coach P is gone
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Felt weird last year to be over a whole month before everyone else.
but really- did it though?
:D ;) ;D :o