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Off Topic => Around Stony Brook U... => Topic started by: Chairman of the Board on August 22, 2013, 02:22:47 pm
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I am always posting the periodic academic rankings, and while these are entirely flawed, its still nice to see SB on there in high regard. This could be a nice neat little place to store them all, starting today:
#89- Center for World University Rankings: SB Ranked among the World's Top 100 University http://commcgi.cc.stonybrook.edu/am2/publish/General_University_News_2/Stony_Brook_Ranked_Among_the_World_s_Top_100_Universities_by_Center_for_World_University_Rankings.shtml
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These rankings can be very subjective but it is good to see we are viewed as one of the worlds best.
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http://commcgi.cc.stonybrook.edu/am2/publish/General_University_News_2/SBU_Jumps_10_Spots_in_Latest_US_News_World_Report_National_Ranking_Moves_Up_6_Spots_in_the_Top_Public_Universities_Ranking.shtml
SBU Jumps 10 Spots in Latest 'US News & World Report ' National Ranking; Moves Up 6 Spots in the Top Public Universities Ranking
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On the rise. A great moment for our school!
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It's pretty great PR for Stony Brook to now say they're the top ranked SUNY according to the US News and World Report. That will only help Stony Brook's selectivity.
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http://www.goseawolves.org/allaccess/
SB Athletic has a new look plus it now has a pay TV. Which plan works best to watch Football/ Basketball. I might E mail SB Athletics and let them know about that issue . Pretty cool though
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Top Public U in NY baby!! Bragging rights. Lol
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http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/stony-brook-suny-2838
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/stony-brook-suny-2838/rankings
for whatever weight you put into this- #88 nationally.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/most-underrated-colleges-in-america-2015-1?op=1
USN&WR #34 most underrated colleges in the US.
US News rank: 88
PayScale rank: 85
Certain students at Stony Brook, a space grant university, receive state-funded support for research in space-related fields, including physics and astronomy, biomedical engineering, and marine and atmospheric science. Stony Brook graduates earn an average mid-career salary of $94,300, and the school has been ranked as one of the top 40 public universities by US News & World Report.
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http://sb.cc.stonybrook.edu/happenings/alumni/stony-brook-university-among-top-100-national-universities-and-top-40-public-universities-in-us-news-world-reports-2016-best-college-rankings/
September 9, 2015 – Stony Brook University has been named the #89th best national university and the #37th best public university by US News & World Report. The rankings are based on a formula that uses quantitative measures that education experts have proposed as reliable indicators of academic quality. It compares colleges based on a number of common quality indicators, such as retention, graduation rates, faculty strength and more.
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USN&WR rankings: http://www.stonybrook.edu/happenings/alumni/stony-brook-makes-forbes-top-100-best-value-list/
grad programs: http://www.stonybrook.edu/happenings/alumni/main-university-news/sbu-graduate-programs-make-u-s-news-top-100-rankings/
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SB ranked as a Fiske best buy: http://www.stonybrook.edu/happenings/alumni/stony-brook-listed-as-fiske-best-buy-school/
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http://www.stonybrook.edu/happenings/homespotlight/stony-brook-ranked-in-top-1-percent-among-universities-worldwide/
Stony Brook Ranked in Top 1 Percent Among Universities Worldwide
According to the Center for World University Rankings (CWUR), Stony Brook University is among the top 1 percent in the world, ranking #154 among more than 25,000 degree-granting institutions of higher education worldwide.
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I think the school really should highlight their academic profile more especially in the NY Metro Area. We are a steal financially .
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from pres stanley:
This year we received almost 35,000 applications for 2,900 places — we are now the seventh most selective public university among our 62 American Association of Universities (AAU) peers.
And thanks to Stony Brook’s return on investment, top-notch research facilities and star faculty, we continue to be recognized for our outstanding academic programs and affordability — including, most recently, as a “best- buy” school in Fiske Guide to Colleges 2017.
The heart of every campus is its library, and by the end of this summer we’ll have completed a multimillion-dollar renovation — supported in part by the Stony Brook Foundation — that will transform the Reading Rooms into “Knowledge Commons.” With technology improvements, modern furniture and creatively designed collaboration spaces, our library will be a haven for quiet study or group learning
Undergoing similar transformation is the outdated image of Stony Brook as a commuter school. With the addition of our new $168.6 million, 759-room Toll Drive residence halls with integrated dining facilities, we now have more than 10,300 oncampus beds, more than any in the entire SUNY system — a necessity given that our student population has swelled to a record 25,272.
As Long Island’s largest single-site employer, and with faculty who have 312 inventions and 580 U.S. patents to their name, Stony Brook provides full- or parttime jobs to more than 14,000 New Yorkers, with a direct economic impact of $4.65 billion. And this impact is felt across the region — Stony Brook is effectively responsible for generating 60,000 jobs, or 7.5 percent of the employment in Suffolk County.
To complement these efforts, funding is in place for two new buildings in our Research and Discovery Park: a $60 million, 200,000-square-foot Innovation and Discovery Center to act as a “mezzanine structure” to promote the growth of startup businesses and to allow Stony Brook incubator companies to step up to the next level, and a $75 million Institute for Discovery and Innovation in Medicine & Engineering (I-DIME). This institute will link Stony Brook’s strength in advanced data analytics with pioneering research to solve the vexing problems of today and of the future.
We were also able to increase our four-year graduation rate to 51 percent, grow financial aid, add 19 new academic programs and reduce the faculty/student ratio from 28:1 to 17:1.
Most important, Stony Brook continued to maintain one of the lowest tuitions of the AAU — reflected in the fact that 40 percent of Stony Brook students graduate with no debt and the average debt of those who borrow is $2,500 below the national average.
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I just read my e mail on this and good news all around !
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ranking universities is an impossible task. too many assumptions.
however, kids look at these things, employers, etc.
SB #96 nationally http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities
Stony Brook University is one of 64 schools in the State University of New York (SUNY) system. Located on the North Shore of Long Island, the university is accessible by car, train and ferry, and many students choose to commute. Freshmen do not have to live on campus. Academic activity pauses each Wednesday from 1 p.m. to 2:30 p.m. for Campus Life Time, when students can check out free concerts, sample free food and take a break from the rigor of classes. Annually, students gather for events like the Roth Pond Regatta, a race of student-made cardboard boats, and the Shirley Strum Kenny Student Arts Festival, a week of student work showcases. Students can also check out more than 300 student organizations on campus, including more than 30 fraternities and sororities. On the athletic fields, the Stony Brook Seawolves compete in the NCAA Division I America East Conference. For a workout off the field, students can bike and hike around Stony Brook’s large, wooded campus, which includes the Ashley Schiff Park Preserve. For an urban experience, New York City is about 60 miles away.
$26,266 (out-of-state), $9,026 (in-state) Tuition and Fees 16,831 Undergraduate Enrollment
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/stony-brook-suny-2838
#96 (tie) in National Universities
#117 (tie) in High School Counselor Rankings
#42 in Top Public Schools
#63 (tie) in Engineering Programs (doctorate)
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Nice to see.
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the WSJ says- the top northeast public schools includes SB at #6: http://www.wsj.com/articles/top-private-and-public-colleges-in-the-northeast-1477492224
1 University of Pittsburgh-Pittsburgh campus 59
2 Pennsylvania State University 96
3 Rutgers University-New Brunswick 110
3 University of Connecticut 110
5 University at Buffalo 130
6 Stony Brook University 134
7 Rutgers University-Newark 141
8 University of Massachusetts Amherst 178
9 Temple University 180
10 SUNY Binghamton University 190
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That's good company to be in the Top 10 at number 6 .
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Stony Brook University’s academic excellence has again been recognized in three recent college rankings: the Wall Street Journal / Times Higher Education College Ranking, which places SBU at No. 30 among national public institutions, the new Washington Post composite ranking, which places SBU No. 69 nationally and No. 35 among public institutions, and the US News & World Report Best Global Universities ranking, which ranks SBU as No. 131 worldwide.
http://www.stonybrook.edu/happenings/homespotlight/stony-brook-shines-in-recent-college-rankings/
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http://www.stonybrook.edu/happenings/rankings/sbu-top-1-4-qs-world-university-rankings/
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http://www.stonybrook.edu/happenings/alumni/money-magazines-best-colleges-listing-places-stony-brook-among-top/
In Money magazine’s annual list of the Best Colleges for Your Money, Stony Brook University ranked #54 overall and #32 among public universities in the nation. With the goal of identifying schools that provide the best education at the most reasonable price, Money evaluated 711 schools on 27 factors in three categories — quality of education, affordability and student outcomes.
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160 of our kids made the academic honor roll for the conference that is great ! SBU is not easy and to pull down a 3.0 GPA or higher is an achievement to be proud of.
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http://sbf.convio.net/site/DocServer/Presidents-Report-SBF-Board-Meeting-March-2018.pdf?docID=709
Stony Brook University has again been named to Kiplinger’s Personal Finance 300 Best
College Values for 2018. The University earned the #32 spot on the magazine’s list of
100 best values in public
Stony Brook student-athletes had another strong semester in the classroom, achieving
a cumulative GPA of 3.16:
○ 11 student-athletes achieved a 4.0
○ 111 student-athletes achieved between 3.5-3.99
○ 155 student-athletes achieved between 3.0-3.49
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Very good and now to make this kind of a public announcement . We don't push our academic performance enough .
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https://www.stonybrook.edu/happenings/homespotlight/stony-brook-makes-forbes-list-of-best-value-colleges/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=matters_may
Forbes has released its 2018 list of “Best Value Colleges,” and Stony Brook University ranks No. 41 overall among 300 schools that provide students with the most bang for their buck. Stony Brook ranks at No. 18 among public colleges and universities, and received the highest ranking out of SUNY schools.
https://www.forbes.com/value-colleges/list/#tab:rank
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Good to see SB ahead of flagship institutions like Purdue, Illinois, Texas...and right there with W&M (considered a "public Ivy").
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Now to build on this type of news with the public. SBU is a steal for any kid especially a NYS student .
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Now to build on this type of news with the public. SBU is a steal for any kid especially a NYS student .
It used to be a steal even for out of state students. These days not so much, but it's still not horrible compared to what's out there.
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Center for World University Rankings has SBU at #128 Globally, and #56 in the United States. This puts us ahead of powerhouses such as:
Rice
Georgia Tech
Case Western Reserve
Georgetown
and many more. They also have us miles ahead of all the other SUNYs(Buffalo is at 273). I'm not complaining one bit ;D
http://cwur.org/2018-19/usa.php
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That is impressive . Now to broadcast that information to the general public.
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great stuff VA. thanks for sharing!!!
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https://news.stonybrook.edu/stony-brook-matters/alumni/stony-brook-university-named-34th-best-us-college-by-money-magazine-26/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=matters_ad_aug
Stony Brook University has been named the 34th best college in the US, as well as the 22nd best public institution, in an annual ranking released by MONEY Magazine.
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https://news.stonybrook.edu/stony-brook-matters/alumni/stony-brook-university-named-34th-best-us-college-by-money-magazine-26/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=matters_ad_aug
Stony Brook University has been named the 34th best college in the US, as well as the 22nd best public institution, in an annual ranking released by MONEY Magazine.
President Stanley mentioned a couple years ago that he wanted SB to be a Top 20 public so we're getting there. Binghamton already is Top 20, so no reason SB can't.
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The completion of the fund raising with 630 million should help immensely . Brighter day ahead for sure.
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The completion of the fund raising with 630 million should help immensely . Brighter day ahead for sure.
Is any of this money earmarked for athletics?????
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The completion of the fund raising with 630 million should help immensely . Brighter day ahead for sure.
Is any of this money earmarked for athletics?????
We supposedly exceeded our goal by 5%. That works out to about $32 million. Know what we can do with 32 million? Expand the stadium, which is the largest capex hurdle between where we are, and where we're trying to go.
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The completion of the fund raising with 630 million should help immensely . Brighter day ahead for sure.
Is any of this money earmarked for athletics?????
We supposedly exceeded our goal by 5%. That works out to about $32 million. Know what we can do with 32 million? Expand the stadium, which is the largest capex hurdle between where we are, and were we're trying to go.
I have a better idea what to do with the money, and it is football related. Spend the money on a new, high caliber head coach and pay this coach more money than any other CAA coach. That will eventually get us better recruits which in return we win the conference and possibly compete with NDSU for the trophy. That is how you expand a stadium, over time!!!!!
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not to mention JMU. they were on par with us and leaped ahead. i dont think there's any catching them now.
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https://twitter.com/StonyBrookMLAX/status/1037016590913552384
Continuing that national rise!...SBU named 34th best US College by Money Magazine 💰🐺✊🏻#MissionCritical #SeawolvesUnited
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USN&WR rankings came out today. SBU tied with Binghamton for 80th nationally among National Universities.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities
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USN&WR rankings came out today. SBU tied with Binghamton for 80th nationally among National Universities.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities
These are important rankings and I believe we moved up 17 spots. That is a BIG jump and is I believe our highest ranking on record. This is great news for us and everyone at the university should be shouting these rankings from the rooftops since we're closer to where we should be now. Note how we're ahead of UB, and tied with Binghamton who many people say is "better" than we are. Fantastic news ;D ;D
Other notable universities this puts us ahead of are Michigan State, Indiana, Iowa, Colorado, RIT, Delaware, and Arizona.
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This is great news and should be plastered all the Island for everyone to see . We are one of the top schools in the country and getting better .
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agreed. even though i question the utility of these rankings (can you really say with any authority that #26 is better than #27? nonsense), the fact is that kids use them. we just love to put things in order add a value.
especially given that large universities have separate colleges, etc. that would be better in my mind if you ranked colleges. this is where our math/sciences shine of course.
VA you made an excellent but subtle point- where we should be. i think most reasonable people, even subjective alums, would agree we arent in the ranks of princeton, duke, stanford, yale, and the like. so it's realistic to say that we belong more in the 70-ish range at best, i think.
but if you factor in my comment above- how silly it is to try to rank these- i think in buckets is better. with that said, i dont see why we couldnt be as high as 50-something (uconn, smu, miami?).
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The top 20 is pretty much all private schools, and the top 50 is littered with privates. I don't think it's realistic to expect to be public Ivy level with Berkley, UCLA, UVA, Georgia Tech, Michigan, etc., but I think it's a good goal, and a fairly realistic one to someday be in that next tier down with schools like Wisconsin, Ohio State, Washington (severely underrated in these rankings I think), Texas, the other UC campuses (Davis, Santa Barbara, etc.). It's hard to really be compared to/compete with private schools as most have such a long history, but the public schools are good ones to aspire towards.
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agreed on all points; we may not be berkeley, UVa, michigan, etc. But it's a good aim.
im glad you brought up Ga Tech. i happen to think SB is built much more like a Va Tech, Ga Tech and other large tech schools. we are more known for hard sciences and engineering, large campus, etc. our liberal arts are just catching up but perhaps those should be our targets.
i do agree that wiscy an washington are both underrated.
since we dont have a bona fide "national" appeal, the way UCLA or Michigan has- perhaps we should look more to the more regional schools as something to aspire to? perhaps... i dunno. rutgers, penn state, umass, uconn, etc. just a thought, i dont necessarily agree with it.
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What a great day for the Brook and the alumni family!
USNWR Rankings are the most viewed and valued by prospective students
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Here's a fun little tid-bit for the anti-FBS football crowd. Of all the pubic schools with football programs ranked ahead of us the latest US News rankings, only two of them have football in the FCS. UC Davis, and William and Mary. Everyone else is FBS and most of those are in P5 conferences. How good you are on the field doesn't matter. It's about how you do in the classroom first and foremost. If it was all about on-field performance, Boise State would be in the Pac-12, North Dakota State would be in the Big 10, and Rutgers would be in the NAIA.
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just for ease of reading- i think you meant to write "ranked ahead of us", right?
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someone over at the bball forum stacked up the AE schools from the UN&WR rankings:
#80 - SUNY Binghampton (tie)
#80 - Stony Brook (tie)
#96 - University of Vermont
#106 - UNH
#140 - UAlbany
#157 - UMass-Lowell
#165 - UMBC
#177 - Maine
#194 - University of Hartford
A few others for comparison:
#42 - BU
#44 - Northeastern
#70 - UMass-Amherst
#89 - Delaware (tie)
#89 - SUNY Buffalo (tie)
#157 - URI
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges...l-universities
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Here's a fun little tid-bit for the anti-FBS football crowd. Of all the pubic schools with football programs ranked ahead of us the latest US News rankings, only two of them have football in the FCS. UC Davis, and William and Mary. Everyone else is FBS and most of those are in P5 conferences. How good you are on the field doesn't matter. It's about how you do in the classroom first and foremost. If it was all about on-field performance, Boise State would be in the Pac-12, North Dakota State would be in the Big 10, and Rutgers would be in the NAIA.
Honestly I think it has to do more with size than anything else. Most top public universities are the "flagship" or "Land Grant" U (this also signifies a good quality of education) of their respective state with large enrollment figures which allows them to fund a large football program with less of a drain on resources as they can distribute expenses across a larger student body/alumni base.
I think Stony Brook can easily achieve FBS status if we wanted to. Even right now! Nothing is stopping us from doing it. But why invest more at this point when the attendance and student support figures are just not there?!?!... do we just want to blow up more money?
I say keep improving attendance and facilities (i.e: Indoor Practice Facility) and maybe 10 years down the line we can justify moving up to FBS. We are also building a great program in the CAA esp. from last year onward. Lets keep on building the winning tradition which can only make the transition smoother in the future. For now, we get to play with the FCS flagship state Universities of the Northeast which are great schools and nothing to be ashamed of (Delaware, Maine, UNH, URI, Albany** )
At the end of the day. I think Stony Brook and Buffalo are the best suited NY public schools for FBS competition and we will probably find each other in the same conference some day, even with Buffalo's head start. We have a 25K+ student population, are strong research institutions with AAU membership, and are the most comprehensive universities of our state. Albany and Binghamton just don't have the size and prestige that SBU/UB have...
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Here's a fun little tid-bit for the anti-FBS football crowd. Of all the pubic schools with football programs ranked ahead of us the latest US News rankings, only two of them have football in the FCS. UC Davis, and William and Mary. Everyone else is FBS and most of those are in P5 conferences. How good you are on the field doesn't matter. It's about how you do in the classroom first and foremost. If it was all about on-field performance, Boise State would be in the Pac-12, North Dakota State would be in the Big 10, and Rutgers would be in the NAIA.
Honestly I think it has to do more with size than anything else. Most top public universities are the "flagship" or "Land Grant" U (this also signifies a good quality of education) of their respective state with large enrollment figures which allows them to fund a large football program with less of a drain on resources as they can distribute expenses across a larger student body/alumni base.
I think Stony Brook can easily achieve FBS status if we wanted to. Even right now! Nothing is stopping us from doing it. But why invest more at this point when the attendance and student support figures are just not there?!?!... do we just want to blow up more money?
I say keep improving attendance and facilities (i.e: Indoor Practice Facility) and maybe 10 years down the line we can justify moving up to FBS. We are also building a great program in the CAA esp. from last year onward. Lets keep on building the winning tradition which can only make the transition smoother in the future. For now, we get to play with the FCS flagship state Universities of the Northeast which are great schools and nothing to be ashamed of (Delaware, Maine, UNH, URI, Albany** )
At the end of the day. I think Stony Brook and Buffalo are the best suited NY public schools for FBS competition and we will probably find each other in the same conference some day, even with Buffalo's head start. We have a 25K+ student population, are strong research institutions with AAU membership, and are the most comprehensive universities of our state. Albany and Binghamton just don't have the size and prestige that SBU/UB have...
I actually agree with pretty much all of this. I don't think we need to pull a Liberty and go FBS via independence, however should a suitable invite come, I think we better take it rather than pull a JMU or a Umass and decline it. In UMass's case, they were in a way better basketball conference and didn't want to sacrifice that for their football. We don't have that problem being in the AE. JMU simply thought they were too good for the Sun Belt.
Another round of realignment is coming in the next 5-7 years and there's a decent chance we could get the call then given all the movement that's likely going to happen in the Big 12 and elsewhere. I think the most likely conference is the MAC, and if they come calling I say we take it. We can compete well in the MAC and we'd have Buffalo as a rival. IDK if the MAC sponsors LAX or baseball, but I'm sure we could find a good home for those sports if need be (possibly keeping them in the AE).
If an invite doesn't come though, I'd be content with where we're at for a while longer. We're in a very good spot right now all things considered. Build the program up, hopefully win a national title, and then in the 2030's sometime make the move. With the trajectory SBU is on, we might be able to set our sights higher than the MAC at that point.
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let's play out a scenario that hopefully addresses two related topics- attendance, and FBS.
let's say we move into the mid american. now we play better, higher profile teams. kids should be more enticed to watch. so we bring in... the akron zips. or the toledo rockets. do we go from 7700 fans (last game) to... 10k? 12K?
i guess my point is- it's not that sexy of a headline for college kids who arent already on campus.
they dont know of the central michigan chippewas or the kent state golden flashes. to them, in fact, these might be LESS well known that JMU, nova, towson, etc. despite the fact that we here all know it's a different level of football.
i guess what im saying is- while better players might be attracted by FBS opponents, i'm not going to assume that student fans will get the difference.
even if they do- what do we pick up- another 2k fans???
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Another round of realignment is coming in the next 5-7 years and there's a decent chance we could get the call then given all the movement that's likely going to happen in the Big 12 and elsewhere.
just curious on this point- where did you hear about upcoming realignments in the Big 12, and who is moving where? Is this the texas B12 network thing again? thanks.
also agreed on the backup plan of sticking it out in the CAA/AE for a while, with the hopes that the right invitation will come at some point...
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let's play out a scenario that hopefully addresses two related topics- attendance, and FBS.
let's say we move into the mid american. now we play better, higher profile teams. kids should be more enticed to watch. so we bring in... the akron zips. or the toledo rockets. do we go from 7700 fans (last game) to... 10k? 12K?
i guess my point is- it's not that sexy of a headline for college kids who arent already on campus.
they dont know of the central michigan chippewas or the kent state golden flashes. to them, in fact, these might be LESS well known that JMU, nova, towson, etc. despite the fact that we here all know it's a different level of football.
i guess what im saying is- while better players might be attracted by FBS opponents, i'm not going to assume that student fans will get the difference.
even if they do- what do we pick up- another 2k fans???
That post is spot on. It is my concern too. The MAC would probably be our landing spot. But how attractive are these opponents for our current and future fans? Our fans won't know any of those programs outside of Buffalo. This is why we have to be careful and smart about the move up.
Right now we are at the top FCS conference where we get to play well known northeast flagship (or good secondary state public schools). To change that to play in the obscure MAC and pick up a tab for 20 additional scholarships doesn't sound exciting.
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When it comes to attendance, the MAC currently plays several games on weeknights for a larger payday from ESPN. For most schools this might not be the best thing, but with our large commuter population, it addresses a large problem we currently have. The students would already be here due to classes and wouldn't have to come out on a weekend. I think we should experiment with a few Thursday night games in the coming years to see if attendance is better. I believe it might.
The CAA has great schools, it's still the FCS and FCS schools get a fraction of the coverage FBS schools get. It wasn't long ago that our conference games were against Gardner Webb, Presbyterian, Liberty, and VMI. Despite being in the CAA, attendance isn't any better than it was previously as our opponents are still irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. The most poorly viewed bowl game gets more views than the FCS championship game.
A big benefit of being FBS that's being discounted is who we can get home games with OOC. Being FBS opens up the possibility for home games against big name schools in our region that are impossible to get right now. Umass, Uconn, Temple, Army, Navy, Pitt, Boston College, Syracuse, Rutgers, Maryland, all become potential home opponents once you go FBS. That cannot happen right now.
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Chairman, it's well known that when the Big 12's current TV contract expires, several schools could be out the door looking for greener pastures (or fighting to save the prestige of their athletic programs). It largely centers on Oklahoma and their president who supposedly wants them in the Big Ten. If they go, they could bring Kansas with them to the B1G. It's also possible they head to the SEC with Kansas or Oklahoma State, and there's also the remote possibility of Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, and Texas Tech all heading to the Pac-12 as was rumored in 2010.
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/paul-finebaum-oklahoma-desperate-get-big-12/
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/collegesports/2018/05/20/flashpointthe-forces-extinguish-big-12-coming-sides
The potential scenarios are numerous, but the ripple effects will be felt all the way down into the FCS. The top of the Big 12 could leave, then the Big 12 could back-fill with current AAC schools, MWC schools, and/or BYU, those conferences would then need to backfill those departures, and so on and so forth down the line until eventually FCS schools will need to be called up to fill in the gaps. Heilbron wants us to be a strong candidate for one of those open spots in the next 5-7 years, and I believe he has his sights set on The American which would be perfect. We're not alone though, as JMU and Delaware are also clearly eyeing move ups to FBS. The possibility of a new FBS conference forming in the east is also out there. Definitely exciting times ahead.
The best thing we can do is continue winning (in all sports), keep up the academics, and improve our facilities like we've been doing. A large shift is likely coming in the middle of the next decade which after all is said and done should open up an attractive landing spot for SBU that we can hopefully seize.
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yep- i remember 15 years ago when the big east got gutted by the big 10 and ACC and then retooled with cincy, south fla, uconn, louisville.
and they played on thursdays. it was the only game on. i watched.
agreed that it would at least enhance attendance. and that we should experiment (before a bye week, of course!).
i also do agree that the FBS is in our future- just not sure of the timeline yet.
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why are okla and kansas tied together, is it because conferences want joiners in pairs? (Colorado/Utah, Miami/VT, etc)
i remember the texas rumor. and heard it was all about the longhorn network.
thanks for the links, good info.
as it stands today- id be more interested in the AAC than the MAC, despite the fact that i think we'd struggle more there. our budget would have to increase, and i do think there are some sexier names to put asses in seats. good stuff.
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When it comes to attendance, the MAC currently plays several games on weeknights for a larger payday from ESPN. For most schools this might not be the best thing, but with our large commuter population, it addresses a large problem we currently have. The students would already be here due to classes and wouldn't have to come out on a weekend. I think we should experiment with a few Thursday night games in the coming years to see if attendance is better. I believe it might.
The CAA has great schools, it's still the FCS and FCS schools get a fraction of the coverage FBS schools get. It wasn't long ago that our conference games were against Gardner Webb, Presbyterian, Liberty, and VMI. Despite being in the CAA, attendance isn't any better than it was previously as our opponents are still irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. The most poorly viewed bowl game gets more views than the FCS championship game.
A big benefit of being FBS that's being discounted is who we can get home games with OOC. Being FBS opens up the possibility for home games against big name schools in our region that are impossible to get right now. Umass, Uconn, Temple, Army, Navy, Pitt, Boston College, Syracuse, Rutgers, Maryland, all become potential home opponents once you go FBS. That cannot happen right now.
Those are solid points that I didn't consider. The thursday night game can be something to explore in the future. Maybe once or twice per season
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You are right on Chairman . I would prefer the AAC over the MAC with UConn, Navy and Temple to name a few . I don't think we have much in common with Central Michigan or Kent State etc. Should be interesting for us.
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https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/hailing-increased-graduation-rate-president-delivers-2018-state-of-the-university-address/?spotlight=hero
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/e/2PACX-1vQqJFVYgyL8pPNahHTZ-BcGBEkuX-pPAtJYV5i3uRXHFc-hXuv8UGBS7LMfEwpzwrqZ7fs-a3F9iner/pub?start=true&loop=true&delayms=5000#slide=id.g438623d847_0_4
http://sbf.convio.net/site/DocServer/Stony_Brook_Foundation_3Q_Board_Meeting.pdf?docID=1102
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I didn't know we made the Forbes list of top 25 STEM schools. That's fantastic news and is really something the University should advertise more I believe since STEM are one of the few fields where you can get a good return on your financial investment into going to school and getting a degree.
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that stood out to me as well when reading.
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Stony Brook suspends the Operations of the new School of Pharmacy and Pharmacy Sciences.
I wonder what happened. Not good for the U!
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Newsday said it was financila decision per Dr Stanley . We may never know for sure but it is a little black eye for SBU
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disappointing https://www.sbstatesman.com/2018/10/14/stony-brook-school-of-pharmacy-and-pharmaceutical-sciences-shut-down/
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I mean... if you've got to cut something I guess it's better to cut a program that hadn't admitted any students yet and was brand new, but it's still not the best thing in the world. It is what it is. Infinite desires, but finite resources.
Now let's go expand that football stadium ;D ;D
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I mean... if you've got to cut something I guess it's better to cut a program that hadn't admitted any students yet and was brand new, but it's still not the best thing in the world. It is what it is. Infinite desires, but finite resources.
Now let's go expand that football stadium ;D ;D
LOL> Yeh, thats exactly what Gov. Cuomo wants to hear after this cut.
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Stony Brook University boosts its 4-year graduation rate
https://www.newsday.com/long-island/education/stony-brook-university-president-1.21437829
The four-year undergraduate graduation rate for students who entered school in the fall of 2014 and graduated by Aug. 31, 2018, was 62 percent, up from 45 percent for those who graduated in 2011 having entered in 2007, according to university data. Universities use four-year cohorts to measure completion rates because it typically takes four years to finish most bachelor's degree programs.
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at the JMU game the announcers said something about a WSJ ranking. i'm not sure this is it, but anyway, we are at 147: https://www.timeshighereducation.com/rankings/united-states/2018#!/page/0/length/25/name/stony%20brook/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats
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https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/e/2PACX-1vSbNJlVVGF9zgJFVD_1WvVkjdetBfYrPNJ_GVitlHGgmJL3BaxWJK4TKmqHC9yXNT_dO7H1aQ4spG_D/pub?start=true&loop=true&delayms=5000&slide=id.p1
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you have to click through a bit to get to NY and then SUNY but have a look at how much public funding gets to SBU: https://infogram.com/following-federal-dollars-an-in-depth-analysis-of-research-spending-in-higher-ed-1hzj4o570k5p2pw?live
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That’s research funding, which is from both government and private sources. Buffalo is now ahead of SB, but SB used to be tops in SUNY.
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https://www.theladders.com/career-advice/the-best-total-package-college-in-every-state-in-america?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=matters_ad_march
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https://www.theladders.com/career-advice/the-best-total-package-college-in-every-state-in-america?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=matters_ad_march
That is huge. It's not a popular publication but could be a marketing bonanza for SB if they use it. I may forward to the Admin in case they miss it.
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please do.
Before you look at the best total package college in every state, here are the best of the best:
1 Princeton University
2 University of California – Berkeley
3 Stony Brook University
3. Stony Brook University
One of the most surprising on this list, Stony Brook University is the best in the State of New York.
We don’t see Stony Brook on many lists, because there is another powerhouse NY school that tends to make the cut–Columbia University.
But don’t worry Stony Brook, we got you.
When you factor in cost, Stony Brook topples Columbia by a huge amount, with close to $50,000 in state tuition savings annually, to be precise.
Stony Brook University also boasts a great track record when it comes to job prospects, career earnings, and competitiveness.
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and on that topic- we should be on this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Ivy
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President Stanley appreciated the link and passed it along.
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calling all alums!!!
tomorrow 4/30 is SBU's first ever annual giving day. we have achieved a record-high #80 in the USN&WR (up 17 spots from last year)
and a remarkable #32 among public schools https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/stony-brook-achieves-highest-ever-us-news-ranking/
one of the criteria for the rankings is % of alums that give. so even if you give $5, or $10, or millions, you count the same. the same as jim simons, the same as glenn dubin, etc.
please participate so we can send the message to albany that SBU is in fact the undisputed flagship of the 62 campus SUNY system.
spread the word. -CotB
https://news.stonybrook.edu/stony-brook-matters/alumni/one-celebration-seven-locations/
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Gala Honoring Dr. Marilyn Hawrys Simons Raises Record $28.2 Million
https://news.stonybrook.edu/stony-brook-matters/alumni/gala-honoring-dr-marilyn-hawrys-simons-raises-record-28-2-million/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=matters_ad_april
More than 800 guests gathered last evening at Pier Sixty at Chelsea Piers in New York City to honor alumna and Simons Foundation President Marilyn Hawrys Simons ’74, PhD ’84, at the 20th Stars of Stony Brook Gala.
The 2019 Stony Brook Gala also proved to be a record-breaker, raising an astounding $28.2 million. The total included $25 million from Dr. Simons, which will establish a new Center for Applied Economics and Public Policy at the University and another record-breaking $3.2 million plus was raised for student scholarships.
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calling all alums!!!
tomorrow 4/30 is SBU's first ever annual giving day. we have achieved a record-high #80 in the USN&WR (up 17 spots from last year)
and a remarkable #32 among public schools https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/stony-brook-achieves-highest-ever-us-news-ranking/
one of the criteria for the rankings is % of alums that give. so even if you give $5, or $10, or millions, you count the same. the same as jim simons, the same as glenn dubin, etc.
please participate so we can send the message to albany that SBU is in fact the undisputed flagship of the 62 campus SUNY system.
spread the word. -CotB
https://news.stonybrook.edu/stony-brook-matters/alumni/one-celebration-seven-locations/
Just gave!
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me too- thanks- now everyone else get on board please!!!
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calling all alums!!!
tomorrow 4/30 is SBU's first ever annual giving day. we have achieved a record-high #80 in the USN&WR (up 17 spots from last year)
and a remarkable #32 among public schools https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/stony-brook-achieves-highest-ever-us-news-ranking/
one of the criteria for the rankings is % of alums that give. so even if you give $5, or $10, or millions, you count the same. the same as jim simons, the same as glenn dubin, etc.
please participate so we can send the message to albany that SBU is in fact the undisputed flagship of the 62 campus SUNY system.
spread the word. -CotB
https://news.stonybrook.edu/stony-brook-matters/alumni/one-celebration-seven-locations/
Just gave!
I am not an Alumn but I also gave to SB Football.
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well done. it all counts. we had a nice event yesterday for the manhattan chapter.
https://givingday.stonybrook.edu/
right now it looks like 4k donors for $171k. all done in one day.
$13k went for athletics, only second to the renaissance school of medicine ($18k)
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Thanks for the info in this thread- reminded me to give a donation to Seawolves United.
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well done. it all counts. we had a nice event yesterday for the manhattan chapter.
https://givingday.stonybrook.edu/
right now it looks like 4k donors for $171k. all done in one day.
$13k went for athletics, only second to the renaissance school of medicine ($18k)
It feels nice to see your name appear as a donor for a cause that is special to you.
https://givingday.stonybrook.edu/?cfpage=project&project_id=27594
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its actually up to 190k now
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final #s https://givingday.stonybrook.edu/
4300 donors
$195k
in one day. GO SB
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Stony Brook Ranks High in Forbes Best Value Colleges 2019 List
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/stony-brook-ranks-high-in-forbes-best-value-colleges-2019-list/
Stony Brook University placed #29 in overall rank and #13 in public rank in Forbes Best Value Colleges 2019 rankings, which highlights the top 300 schools in the country with the highest quality and best financial outcomes.
The University has been consistently rising in the Forbes rankings, from #83 in the overall rank in 2017 to #31 in 2018, and from #28 in the public rank in 2017 to #18 in 2018.
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Anyone else get annoyed whenever larger publications add the SUNY tag to our name? Just leave it at Stony Brook University, please I’m begging you
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yep.
that and "stoney brook"
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yep.
that and "stoney brook"
This one annoys me most!!! Like just stop it people! There's no e in ther.
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also dont like when ESPN has their ticker tape call us "St Brk". looks like a catholic school and it's confusing. just go with SBU and stick with it, no one should confuse us with st. bonnies.
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related- https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2019/07/has-college-gotten-easier/594550/
Has College Gotten Too Easy?
If grades are improving but there’s no reason to think that students have become better students, an interesting possibility is raised: The unassuming, academic way Denning puts it in a recent paper (co-authored with his BYU colleague Eric Eide and Merrill Warnick, an incoming Stanford doctoral student) is that “standards for degree receipt” may have changed. A less measured way of saying what that implies: College may have gotten easier.
It could well be the case, he said, that “schools are just better at helping students” than they used to be. Indeed, many colleges have launched initiatives to help more students graduate, but the effectiveness of these programs varies, and Denning said he does not have specific-enough data to analyze their role in rising graduation rates nationwide.
Denning and his co-authors acknowledged this possibility, noting in their paper that altering what’s necessary to get a degree is “the lowest cost way to increase graduation rates.” But colleges’ widespread use of this tactic, conscious or not, is at this point just guessed at and far from proven.
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https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/stony-brook-ranked-third-best-university-in-the-nation-by-ladders/
Stony Brook University is the third best ‘total-package college’ nationwide, according to Ladders, a job search organization that ranks higher education institutions by calculating the most common ranking factors and factoring in the cost of education.
Stony Brook is ranked first in New York state and third nationwide, behind Princeton and UC Berkeley.
Campus grid“When you factor in cost, Stony Brook topples Columbia by a huge amount, with close to $50,000 in state tuition savings annually, to be precise,” Ladders wrote. “Stony Brook University also boasts a great track record when it comes to job prospects, career earnings, and competitiveness.”
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https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/stony-brook-ranked-third-best-university-in-the-nation-by-ladders/
Stony Brook University is the third best ‘total-package college’ nationwide, according to Ladders, a job search organization that ranks higher education institutions by calculating the most common ranking factors and factoring in the cost of education.
Stony Brook is ranked first in New York state and third nationwide, behind Princeton and UC Berkeley.
Campus grid“When you factor in cost, Stony Brook topples Columbia by a huge amount, with close to $50,000 in state tuition savings annually, to be precise,” Ladders wrote. “Stony Brook University also boasts a great track record when it comes to job prospects, career earnings, and competitiveness.”
Very impressive. The athletic staff needs to put such rankings front and center in the promotional materials they send to potential recruits.
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i know. sometimes i have to dig these things out- even if it isnt the most well-known of publications, and regardless of the criteria, we need to boast this more.
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Nice now for the admin to promote this info to future undergrads.
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This is the kind of thing the University needs to be bragging about on its social media pages. Really get the word out there.
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https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/stony-brook-ranked-third-best-university-in-the-nation-by-ladders/
Stony Brook University is the third best ‘total-package college’ nationwide, according to Ladders, a job search organization that ranks higher education institutions by calculating the most common ranking factors and factoring in the cost of education.
Stony Brook is ranked first in New York state and third nationwide, behind Princeton and UC Berkeley.
Campus grid“When you factor in cost, Stony Brook topples Columbia by a huge amount, with close to $50,000 in state tuition savings annually, to be precise,” Ladders wrote. “Stony Brook University also boasts a great track record when it comes to job prospects, career earnings, and competitiveness.”
Very impressive. The athletic staff needs to put such rankings front and center in the promotional materials they send to potential recruits.
Now, That is very impressive!!!!!!
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Stony Brook Makes Money’s Top 50 Best Value Colleges
https://news.stonybrook.edu/stony-brook-matters/alumni/stony-brook-makes-top-50-best-value-colleges/
Stony Brook University placed #47 in Money’s Best Colleges for Your Money 2019, which weighed more than 19,000 data points — including tuition fees, family borrowing and career earnings — to rank over 700 four-year colleges and universities that successfully combine quality and affordability.
Money’s analysis highlights two important factors: Stony Brook’s graduation rate as 8% above other schools with similar demographics and PayScale data shows alumni earn an average salary in their first three years after graduation which is 9% higher than their peers from other colleges.
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On an interesting related note, six of the top 10 public universities on that list are not FBS in football.
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Stony Brook Ranked in Top 100 by US News
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/stony-brook-ranked-in-top-100-by-us-news/?utm_campaign=1568035820&utm_content=1568035820&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=marcom
Stony Brook University is once again ranked within the top 100 among US colleges and universities (No. 91) and ranks as No. 39 among public universities, according to U.S. News & World Report’s 2020 Best Colleges.
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Stony Brook Jumps to No. 25 in Wall Street Journal/Times Higher Education Rankings
https://news.stonybrook.edu/stony-brook-matters/alumni/stony-brook-jumps-30-places-to-no-105-in-wall-street-journal-times-higher-education-rankings/
Stony Brook has been ranked No. 25 among public universities in the prestigious Wall Street Journal/Times Higher Education U.S. College Rankings for 2020, representing an increase of five places over last year. The university is ranked No. 105 overall, jumping 30 places from the previous ranking.
The higher rankings are due to particularly strong showings in the areas of campus environment and student outcomes and reflect a significant increase in reputation.
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SBU Makes Top 100 on Washington Monthly’s 2019 University Rankings
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/washington-monthly-rankings/
Ranking colleges based on what they do for the country, Washington Monthly’s 2019 National University Rankings are out, and Stony Brook University placed #62 among public universities and #100 overall out of 1,431 universities.
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I'm furious about the US News ranking. We dropped 11 spots from last year. Why?? I also notice that several private schools that used to be regional are now National Universities and are up on the list now. Gonzaga, Gallaudet, Hampton, etc. I think maybe they changed how they evaluated public vs private and gave more private schools an edge? Seems like it.
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Yikes. That’s very bad. Bing and Buffalo went up, what the hell? **** them.
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PLEASE READ AND SHARE!!!
Stony Brook Offers Path to American Dream, Marketwatch Says
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/stony-brook-offers-path-to-american-dream-marketwatch-says/
Stony Brook University is showcased as a university that “helps low-income kids move into the middle class and beyond” in an op-ed published September 20 in Marketwatch.
“There’s something special going on at SUNY Stony Brook,” says John Friedman, co-author of a study identifying the U.S. colleges and universities that best promote upward mobility, who is quoted in the article.
“Over the past five years, Stony Brook has improved graduation rates across the board,” writes op-ed author Howard Gold. “It has a high-tech, data-driven focus on student performance and a high-touch, advisor-heavy outreach program to make sure kids stay on track.”
Opinion: These 10 solid U.S. colleges prove you don’t need Harvard or Yale to achieve the American Dream
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/these-10-solid-us-colleges-prove-you-dont-need-harvard-or-yale-to-achieve-the-american-dream-2019-09-20
State and local public universities help low-income kids move into the middle class and beyond
The researchers found that highly selective colleges and universities such as Berkeley, Columbia, MIT, Stanford, and Swarthmore (which I attended as a first-generation college student) actually do a very good job of elevating lower-income kids to the middle-class and beyond. But they take so few kids from the bottom 20% — less than 4% of enrollment — they can’t move the needle much.
Good state and local universities, however, can and do. That’s why they dominate the list of the 10 colleges that are most effective in helping their graduates move from the lowest 20% (family incomes below $25,000 a year) to the top 20% ($110,000 and above). That’s the stuff of Horatio Alger stories, yet it happens all the time at these American Dream machines.
Only Stony Brook University (of the State University of New York) cracks U.S. News & World Report’s top 100 national universities rankings for 2020.
The authors contrasted Stony Brook, on eastern Long Island, with Columbia, the Manhattan-based Ivy League university founded in 1754. Not surprisingly, lower-income students who attended Columbia, where they hobnob with the sons and daughters of the American oligarchy, had seven times the likelihood of climbing to the top 1% of the economic ladder as kids who attended Stony Brook. But Stony Brook offered many, many more students access to the middle- and upper-middle class than Columbia.
“There's something special going on at SUNY Stony Brook, and we don't quite know yet what that is,” Friedman said.
So, I called Stony Brook to find out. Over the past five years, Stony Brook has improved graduation rates across the board. It has a high-tech, data-driven focus on student performance and a high-touch, advisor-heavy outreach program to make sure kids stay on track.
Stony Brook is selective, with a 40%+ acceptance rate, and draws almost 10% of its students from New York City’s fabled specialized high schools. Its $10,000 a year in-state tuition, especially when combined with grants and aid, looks dirt cheap compared with Columbia’s $55,000 tuition (though elite colleges provide generous financial aid).
Good things are happening — at Stony Brook and elsewhere, even as states have cut $9 billion from public universities over the last decade. Stony Brook’s budget, for example, remains below where it was before the Great Recession.
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https://alumniandfriends.stonybrook.edu/site/DocServer/President_s_Report_-_Sept._2019.pdf?docID=1841
V. UNIVERSITY ACCOLADES
Stony Brook Ranked in Top 100 by U.S. News & World Report
Stony Brook University is once again ranked within the top 100 among U.S. colleges and
universities (No. 91) and ranks as No. 39 among public universities, according to U.S. News &
World Report’s 2020 Best Colleges. The University was ranked No. 38 in ethnic diversity and
No. 24 in the new category of social mobility. Rankings in the areas of graduation and retention
rates increased markedly, as did the University’s selectivity score. U.S. News considers 15
metrics when ranking schools for academic excellence, placing the largest emphasis on a
college’s ability to retain and graduate its students. Other factors include class size, undergraduate
academic reputation and how much a school spends per student on instruction and other related
educational expenses.
Stony Brook Jumps in Wall Street Journal/Times Higher Education Rankings
Stony Brook has been ranked No. 25 among public universities in the prestigious Wall Street
Journal/Times Higher Education U.S. College Rankings for 2020, representing an increase of five
places over last year. Stony Brook is the highest ranked state institution in New York State. Stony
4 Brook University has also been ranked No. 105 among all U.S. universities by the Wall Street
Journal/Times Higher Education U.S. College Rankings for 2020, representing an increase of 30
places over last year. The higher ranking reflects particularly strong showings in the areas of
campus environment and student outcomes. This ranking is based on 15 individual performance
metrics, grouped into four pillars representing resources (30%), engagement (20%), outcomes
(40%) and environment (10%).
Stony Brook Makes Money’s Top 50 Best Value Colleges
Stony Brook University placed #47 in Money’s Best Colleges for Your Money 2019. This
ranking focuses on data that highlight quality and affordability. Money’s analysis highlights the
fact that Stony Brook’s graduation rate is 8% higher than other schools with similar
demographics and that PayScale data show alumni earn an average salary in the first three years
after graduation that is 9% higher than graduates from other colleges.
SBU Makes Top 100 on Washington Monthly’s 2019 University Rankings
Ranking colleges based on what they do for the country, Washington Monthly’s 2019 National
University rank Stony Brook as #62 among public universities and #100 overall out of 1,431
universities. This ranking looks at national universities and their contribution to the public good
in three broad categories, social mobility, research and the promotion of public service.
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https://news.stonybrook.edu/pending/college-of-arts-sciences-pending/whittingham-awarded-nobel-prize-in-chemistry/
Whittingham awarded Nobel Prize in Chemistry
The Department of Chemistry is thrilled to learn that Stan Whittingham is among the three battery scientists to receive this year’s Nobel Prize for their pivotal work in the development of the lithium ion battery.
As a former Stony Brook research professor and founding co-director of the Northeastern Center for Chemical Energy Storage at Stony Brook, Stan provided inspiration to our graduate and postdoctoral students who benefited from his revolutionary work. He has been a tremendous mentor to many of our students and faculty alike.
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https://news.stonybrook.edu/facultystaff/two-from-sbu-make-forbes-30-under-30-list/
https://patch.com/new-york/threevillage/sbu-hospital-named-top-5-nursing-school-program-ny
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Stony Brook University 2010-2019: A Decade of Achievement & Growth
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/stony-brook-university-2010-2019-a-decade-of-achievement-growth/
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didnt listen to this yet: https://news.stonybrook.edu/newsroom/press-release/general/stony-brook-university-goes-beyond-the-expected-with-new-podcast-series/
Stony Brook named one of America’s 100 Best Hospitals for 2020
https://news.stonybrook.edu/newsroom/press-release/general/stony-brook-named-one-of-americas-100-best-hospitals-for-2020/
Stony Brook University Hospital has been named one of America’s 100 Best Hospitals™ for 2020 by Healthgrades – the only hospital on Long Island to receive this achievement for the past two consecutive years and among only five hospitals in New York State this year.
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Stony Brook University Hospital Celebrates 40 Years of Care
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/stony-brook-university-hospital-celebrates-40-years-of-care/
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please read
SB tied for second highest rating among public universities!!!
https://www.wsj.com/articles/top-public-and-private-colleges-in-the-northeast-11587572664
Top Public Colleges in the Northeast
COLLEGE
LOCATION
OVERALL NATIONAL RANK
1 University of Pittsburgh-Pittsburgh campus Pittsburgh. Pa. 96
2 University of Connecticut Storrs, Conn. 105
2 Pennsylvania State University University Park, Pa. 105
2 Stony Brook University Stony Brook, N.Y. 105
5 University at Buffalo Buffalo, N.Y. 110
6 Rutgers University-New Brunswick New Brunswick, N.J. 130
7 SUNY Binghamton University Vestal, N.Y. 153
8 University of Massachusetts Amherst Amherst, Mass. 160
9 Temple University Philadelphia, Pa. 185
10 SUNY University at Albany Albany, N.Y. 196
Showing 1 to 10 of 10 entries
Regions are as defined by the U.S. Census Bureau. Ties are listed in alphabetical order.
Source: WSJ/THE College Rankings
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please read
SB tied for second highest rating among public universities!!!
https://www.wsj.com/articles/top-public-and-private-colleges-in-the-northeast-11587572664
Top Public Colleges in the Northeast
COLLEGE
LOCATION
OVERALL NATIONAL RANK
1 University of Pittsburgh-Pittsburgh campus Pittsburgh. Pa. 96
2 University of Connecticut Storrs, Conn. 105
2 Pennsylvania State University University Park, Pa. 105
2 Stony Brook University Stony Brook, N.Y. 105
5 University at Buffalo Buffalo, N.Y. 110
6 Rutgers University-New Brunswick New Brunswick, N.J. 130
7 SUNY Binghamton University Vestal, N.Y. 153
8 University of Massachusetts Amherst Amherst, Mass. 160
9 Temple University Philadelphia, Pa. 185
10 SUNY University at Albany Albany, N.Y. 196
Showing 1 to 10 of 10 entries
Regions are as defined by the U.S. Census Bureau. Ties are listed in alphabetical order.
Source: WSJ/THE College Rankings
We beat Buffalo, Bing, Albany, AND Rutgers. I'll take that every day of the week. ;D
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Stony Brook University ranked 45th among all US universities
http://longisland.news12.com/story/42159848/stony-brook-university-ranked-45th-among-all-us-universities
Stony Brook University has been ranked 45th among all U.S. universities, according to QS World University Rankings. In addition, the university was 15 among public universities nationwide and named the top public university in New York.
https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/usa-rankings/2020
40 ND
41 Cal Irvine
42 Rutgers
43 Case Western
44 Illinois Chicago
45 SBU
46 Buffalo
47 Penn State
48 BC
49 Maryland
50 UVa
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Stony Brook University ranked 45th among all US universities
http://longisland.news12.com/story/42159848/stony-brook-university-ranked-45th-among-all-us-universities
Stony Brook University has been ranked 45th among all U.S. universities, according to QS World University Rankings. In addition, the university was 15 among public universities nationwide and named the top public university in New York.
https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/usa-rankings/2020
40 ND
41 Cal Irvine
42 Rutgers
43 Case Western
44 Illinois Chicago
45 SBU
46 Buffalo
47 Penn State
48 BC
49 Maryland
50 UVa
I read the article. They are #45 because of international ethnicity. Say it ain't so. My son is an honor student at SCCC is is looking to finish his undergraduate degree either at SB or Binghamton. I told him go with Binghamton for his business degree. He wont fit well with 45% of asians in his class rooms at Stony Brook
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Stony Brook University ranked 45th among all US universities
http://longisland.news12.com/story/42159848/stony-brook-university-ranked-45th-among-all-us-universities
Stony Brook University has been ranked 45th among all U.S. universities, according to QS World University Rankings. In addition, the university was 15 among public universities nationwide and named the top public university in New York.
https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/usa-rankings/2020
40 ND
41 Cal Irvine
42 Rutgers
43 Case Western
44 Illinois Chicago
45 SBU
46 Buffalo
47 Penn State
48 BC
49 Maryland
50 UVa
I read the article. They are #45 because of international ethnicity. Say it ain't so. My son is an honor student at SCCC is is looking to finish his undergraduate degree either at SB or Binghamton. I told him go with Binghamton for his business degree. He wont fit well with 45% of asians in his class rooms at Stony Brook
So anything other that a white majority is unacceptable at a NY university? The 45% Asians may make him a better and more focused student
I would tell him to attend whichever has the best Business program or the best reputation...
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Stony Brook University ranked 45th among all US universities
http://longisland.news12.com/story/42159848/stony-brook-university-ranked-45th-among-all-us-universities
Stony Brook University has been ranked 45th among all U.S. universities, according to QS World University Rankings. In addition, the university was 15 among public universities nationwide and named the top public university in New York.
https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/usa-rankings/2020
40 ND
41 Cal Irvine
42 Rutgers
43 Case Western
44 Illinois Chicago
45 SBU
46 Buffalo
47 Penn State
48 BC
49 Maryland
50 UVa
I read the article. They are #45 because of international ethnicity. Say it ain't so. My son is an honor student at SCCC is is looking to finish his undergraduate degree either at SB or Binghamton. I told him go with Binghamton for his business degree. He wont fit well with 45% of asians in his class rooms at Stony Brook
So anything other that a white majority is unacceptable at a NY university? The 45% Asians may make him a better and more focused student
I would tell him to attend whichever has the best Business program or the best reputation...
I dont agree with it. Stony Brook high percentage of international diversity students have everything to do with money. There are a ton of SUNY schools in NYS where he can attend and get the same business degree and not sit in a classroom with professors who cant speak English or students who wont even look at you.
This is the reason for the very low student fans base at our football and basketball games. There's nothing the athletic dept can do to make 1000 or more Asians attend football games.
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The category ratings for SBU actually aren’t very good. “Academic reputation” came in low compared to other top universities. The boost from “international diversity” (a questionable measure of quality) accounts for the overall high ranking.
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i did notice that- when you read the guts of the article and how they factored that in.
nevertheless- appropriate for the thread!
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Yeah, like who would actually choose SBU over UVA (which is ranked lower than SBU).
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"International diversity" is indeed a worthy and debatable topic when it comes to the operation of a university. What hasn't been stated yet is the fact that those international students contribute greatly to the reasonable cost of education for your/our native students. It certainly is about money...in a financial equation that tends to favor native NY students in a significant way.
But when one-sided characterizations of ethnic groups and not-so-veiled racist tropes enter into the discussion, that to me is not appropriate and should not be shrugged off as "just the way things are."
A high five to those of you who challenge those stereotypes...you are First-Team All AE in your rankings and accomplishments and make SBU a better place.
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When we're ahead of schools like Buffalo, Penn State, Maryland, and BC, I'm not going to sit here and argue with the ranking.
I also wouldn't choose to not send my kid to SBU based on the assertion that the teachers "won't speak English." What a ridiculous thing to say.
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When we're ahead of schools like Buffalo, Penn State, Maryland, and BC, I'm not going to sit here and argue with the ranking.
I also wouldn't choose to not send my kid to SBU based on the assertion that the teachers "won't speak English." What a ridiculous thing to say.
It's not a ridiculous thing to say. If you cant understand the professor speaking what good is it. This is not something we all don't already know. The language barrier between students and professor is concerning. I know many, and I mean many students who turned away from SB because of this issue.
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i do recall talking to a parent of a prospective athlete over 20 years ago- kid liked the team, dad was concerned with academics. only had one question- do the professors speak english, particular in mathematics.
LI is rather insular. especially out in suffolk.
again i have no dog in the fight; i welcome diversity. just passing on the news.
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I know many, and I mean many students who turned away from SB because of this issue.
Of course SBU is not lacking in applications, interest, and reputation from an academic standpoint. If many of these students exist and choose to turn away for a reason like this, that certainly is just one more thing that makes SBU better.
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Stony Brook University Hospital Wins Top 25 Award For Sustainability
https://news.stonybrook.edu/newsroom/press-release/medical/stony-brook-university-hospital-wins-top-25-award-for-sustainability/
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Stony Brook University Recognized by Times Higher Education for Reducing Inequalities
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/stony-brook-university-recognized-by-times-higher-education-for-reducing-inequalities/
STONY BROOK, NY, AUGUST 12, 2020— As socioeconomic mobility continues to be a focus in higher education, Stony Brook University continues to be recognized for successfully carving a path forward. The University has been ranked #1 among all U.S. institutions by Times Higher Education, in reducing inequalities in higher education and #27 internationally.
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https://www.hartfordhawks.com/news/2020/8/11/fan-zone-eight-programs-receive-apr-public-recognition-letters.aspx
Eight Programs Receive APR Public Recognition Letters
INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. — The University of Hartford Department of Athletics had eight of its teams receive Academic Progress Rate (APR) Public Recognition Awards, the NCAA announced. These annual awards recognize collegiate programs that score among the top-10 percent of all programs in each sport based on the most recent multi-year APR numbers.
The Hawks led the America East Conference for most teams honored, tying Stony Brook with six apiece. Maine and UMass Lowell each had three programs recognized, Binghamton had two teams honored while UAlbany, UMBC, New Hampshire and Vermont each had one.
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Stony Brook Ranks High in Times Higher Education World Survey
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/stony-brook-ranks-high-in-times-higher-education-world-survey/
In the prestigious 2021 World University Rankings, released Wednesday, SBU was ranked No. 301-350 globally, No. 82 in the US overall and No. 48 among US public universities.
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SBU Again Ranked in Top 100 by U.S. News
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/sbu-again-ranked-in-top-100-by-u-s-news/?fbclid=IwAR2Epq7_O3SUJ5pFldSXw-soDHDqGBP9GA5CzTuFtYce8-h1YEomR3YzV_Q
The University was ranked No. 29 overall in social mobility and No. 69 for student excellence. Stony Brook’s average six-year graduation rate of 76 percent outperformed the predicted graduation rate by 9 percentage points.
In overall rankings Stony Brook finished in a six-way tie with Binghamton University, Colorado School of Mines, University at Buffalo, UC Riverside and University of Iowa.
U.S. News Best Colleges evaluates more than 1,400 colleges and universities on 17 indicators of academic quality. The data used in the 2021 Best Colleges rankings pertains to student and faculty cohorts that predate the pandemic.
top public schools #34: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public
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Always good to watch Bingo tumble
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well i do want to be ahead of bingo... but deep down, i pull for SUNY*. 8)
*except ualbaNy
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2021 Best Colleges in America: Harvard Leads the University Rankings
https://www.wsj.com/articles/2021-best-colleges-in-america-harvard-leads-the-university-rankings-11600383996
#124 https://www.wsj.com/articles/best-colleges-2021-explore-the-full-wsj-the-college-ranking-list-11600383830
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some interesting stats: https://www.stonybrook.edu/far-beyond/story.php?slug=rising-up-to-meet-the-moment
(https://news.stonybrook.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/10-25x7-25-sbu-final-rev.jpg)
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President McInnis Makes Long Island Power 100 List
https://news.stonybrook.edu/stony-brook-matters/alumni/president-mcinnis-makes-long-island-power-100-list/
Jim Simons is on there too. also Robert Catell (Chair, Advanced Energy Research and Technology Center) and Lynda Perdomo-Ayala
(Chair, Suffolk County Human Rights Commission, Department of Pharmacological Sciences at Stony Brook University Medical Center)
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President McInnis Makes Long Island Power 100 List
https://news.stonybrook.edu/stony-brook-matters/alumni/president-mcinnis-makes-long-island-power-100-list/
Jim Simons is on there too. also Robert Catell (Chair, Advanced Energy Research and Technology Center) and Lynda Perdomo-Ayala
(Chair, Suffolk County Human Rights Commission, Department of Pharmacological Sciences at Stony Brook University Medical Center)
Does she like sports? I am getting the impression she has zero interest in advancing SBU athletics. I only say that because I haven't seen or heard her say anything about SB athletics since her hiring. If I am wrong, please try and post a link.
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havent seen much. then again she's in a new role and has to deal with a pandemic first.
this is rather... sanitized: https://www.sbstatesman.com/2020/04/16/stony-brook-ad-shawn-heilbron-holds-virtual-town-hall/
Newly-appointed president, Maurie McInnis, looks to be a key figure in raising Stony Brook’s athletic prominence, according to Heilbron. “With the new president, how do we position ourselves for great things in the future? Just being content is not the way we operate here. That’s the way our athletes are too. I’m excited with all our supporters to figure out what it looks like and how we take that next step. We’re going to get there.”
on the other side- this hints at a $2m cut which we all knew: https://tbrnewsmedia.com/tag/maurie-mcinnis/
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havent seen much. then again she's in a new role and has to deal with a pandemic first.
this is rather... sanitized: https://www.sbstatesman.com/2020/04/16/stony-brook-ad-shawn-heilbron-holds-virtual-town-hall/
Newly-appointed president, Maurie McInnis, looks to be a key figure in raising Stony Brook’s athletic prominence, according to Heilbron. “With the new president, how do we position ourselves for great things in the future? Just being content is not the way we operate here. That’s the way our athletes are too. I’m excited with all our supporters to figure out what it looks like and how we take that next step. We’re going to get there.”
on the other side- this hints at a $2m cut which we all knew: https://tbrnewsmedia.com/tag/maurie-mcinnis/
All talk from Heilbron again. If we don't get into the A10, or don't go FBS, it's all bulls***. Getting things past Cuomo (no term limits in NY? VA is one and done by comparison) and navigating the Covid situation as far as budgets are concerned is certainly going to be a huge challenge, but that's why we put these people in the positions that we do. Get it done. Going FBS I admit would need some help and some luck from other likeminded schools, but upgrading SBU into the A10 isn't out of reach at all. The exposure is much greater while travel isn't much worse.
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I think it’s about time that the fanbase starts turning on Heilbron. That first quote is a complete non-answer about the new president. He’s just spouting useless babble at this point.
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havent seen much. then again she's in a new role and has to deal with a pandemic first.
this is rather... sanitized: https://www.sbstatesman.com/2020/04/16/stony-brook-ad-shawn-heilbron-holds-virtual-town-hall/
Newly-appointed president, Maurie McInnis, looks to be a key figure in raising Stony Brook’s athletic prominence, according to Heilbron. “With the new president, how do we position ourselves for great things in the future? Just being content is not the way we operate here. That’s the way our athletes are too. I’m excited with all our supporters to figure out what it looks like and how we take that next step. We’re going to get there.”
on the other side- this hints at a $2m cut which we all knew: https://tbrnewsmedia.com/tag/maurie-mcinnis/
All talk from Heilbron again. If we don't get into the A10, or don't go FBS, it's all bulls***. Getting things past Cuomo (no term limits in NY? VA is one and done by comparison) and navigating the Covid situation as far as budgets are concerned is certainly going to be a huge challenge, but that's why we put these people in the positions that we do. Get it done. Going FBS I admit would need some help and some luck from other likeminded schools, but upgrading SBU into the A10 isn't out of reach at all. The exposure is much greater while travel isn't much worse.
Heilbron is really fighting an uphill battle. He has to deal with King Cuomo and his lack of support for SUNY sports because of mismanagement by him and his economic experts. Heilbron dealing with Covid-19 uncertainties. If NYS doesn't know how to handle Covid, then Heilbron has his hands tied. Heilbron dealing with conference shutdowns, schools concealing games all over the conference. the reshuffling of schedules. Sucks being an AD right now. At least his son gets to play High School football as a senior this spring, with my younger son who is a junior and also a starter at the wide receiver position. Curious to see who wins that battle. My son or SH son, lol...
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I think it’s about time that the fanbase starts turning on Heilbron. That first quote is a complete non-answer about the new president. He’s just spouting useless babble at this point.
Not going to happen. Look at football. Little Chucky should have been fired yrs ago, but he is still here and will be until he is ready to retire. Heilbron stays at SB until a better, higher-paying position comes along. I see dark days ahead for this program for many years to come, and I mean that sincerely. The University will do find Academically, but Athletically, they are toast and will fall years behind other private programs. UA will be in the same sinking boat as SBU. One man to blame. CUOMO!!!!
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I think it’s about time that the fanbase starts turning on Heilbron. That first quote is a complete non-answer about the new president. He’s just spouting useless babble at this point.
Not going to happen. Look at football. Little Chucky should have been fired yrs ago, but he is still here and will be until he is ready to retire. Heilbron stays at SB until a better, higher-paying position comes along. I see dark days ahead for this program for many years to come, and I mean that sincerely. The University will do find Academically, but Athletically, they are toast and will fall years behind other private programs. UA will be in the same sinking boat as SBU. One man to blame. CUOMO!!!!
UA has a semi-competent HC in Greg Gattuso and one of the best QB's in all of FCS, Jeff Undercuffler. As long as Undercuffler is there, flight risk when grad ready, they'll be in the mix for a playoff spot.
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U.S. News Ranks SBU’s Online Nursing Program in Top 10
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/u-s-news-ranks-sbus-online-nursing-program-in-top-10/
SBU Hospital Among Highest Performing Vaccine Distribution Sites in NY
https://news.stonybrook.edu/homespotlight/sbu-hospital-among-highest-performing-vaccine-distribution-sites-in-ny/
New York state opens vaccination site at Stony Brook University
https://www.ontownmedia.com/coronavirus_pandemic/new-york-state-opens-vaccination-site-at-stony-brook-university/article_e9487c2e-59ff-11eb-8de3-1345dbaf8b23.html
Stony Brook Medicine Leads Telehealth Training Program
https://news.stonybrook.edu/sb_medicine/stony-brook-medicine-leads-telehealth-training-program/
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Stony Brook University Hospital Named One of America’s 100 Best, Again
https://news.stonybrook.edu/sb_medicine/stony-brook-university-hospital-named-one-of-americas-100-best-again/
Stony Brook University Hospital has been named one of America’s 100 Best Hospitals™ for 2021 by Healthgrades – the only hospital on Long Island to receive this distinction for the past three consecutive years.
The honor places Stony Brook University Hospital in the top two percent of nearly 4,500 hospitals assessed nationwide for its consistent, year-over-year superior clinical performance as measured by Healthgrades, the leading resource that connects consumers, physicians and health systems. Only five hospitals in New York State were named among America’s 100 Best Hospitals this year.
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SBU’s Physics Teacher Education Program Receives Top Recognition
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/sbus-physics-teacher-education-program-receives-top-recognition/
The Department of Physics in the College of Arts and Sciences was once again entered into the The 5+ Club — the highest award available for teacher preparation from the Physics Teacher Education Coalition (PhysTEC). The Department received this impressive recognition for graduating five qualified physics teachers during the academic year 2019-2020, putting Stony Brook in the 99th percentile of all US colleges and universities with physics teacher preparation programs.
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SBU’s Physics & Astronomy Program Ranks in Top 100 Universities Worldwide
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/sbus-physics-astronomy-program-ranks-in-top-100-universities-worldwide/
According to QS, one of the leading ranking organizations for international rankings, the Stony Brook University’s Physics and Astronomy program has ranked #89 in the top 100 universities in the world.
This is the second year that QS has ranked universities, but the first World University Subject Rankings for the company. Stony Brook University overall was ranked No. 45 nationwide and the fifth best university in New York State, after Cornell, Columbia, NYU, and University of Rochester in the 2020 QS Survey. The World Rankings By Subject covers 51 disciplines.
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Physics, Psychiatry/Psychology Rank in US News Global Top 100
https://www.stonybrook.edu/far-beyond/story.php?slug=physics-psychiatry-psychology-rank-in-us-news-global-top-100
The subject of Psychiatry/Psychology climbed to 63 in the publication’s global rankings, which places Stony Brook in the top 16 percent of the 416 universities ranked for 2021.
Physics placed 70th among 911 universities ranked for 2021, placing Stony Brook in the top 8 percent globally.
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Stony Brook Jumps into Top 40 of all U.S. Universities in New QS Survey; #1 Public in New York State
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/stony-brook-jumps-into-top-40-of-all-u-s-universities-in-new-qs-survey-1-public-in-new-york-state/
STONY BROOK, NY, May 5, 2021 – Stony Brook University has been ranked No. 39 among all U.S. universities in the QS US University Rankings 2021, moving up from No. 45 last year and placing in the top 5.5% nationwide. The University is also ranked as No. 5 among all colleges and universities in New York State. In addition to improving from #45 in 2020 to #39 in 2021, Stony Brook:
Ranks #6 in the country on the diversity and internationalisation index
Ranks #13 in the country among public universities
Ranks as the #1 public university in New York
The rankings are based on weighted scores in the categories of Employability, Diversity and Internationalization, Learning Experience and Research.
Stony Brook’s strong showing is due in part to its high score in the category of Diversity and Internationalization, in which it ranks No. 6 nationally. This category includes the following indicators: gender pay gap, faculty gender diversity, ratio of undergraduates receiving Pell grants, students’ ethnicity, number of Fulbright students and ratio of international students.
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Stony Brook Foundation Stars of Stony Brook Gala Raises Nearly $2 Million for Student Scholarships
https://news.stonybrook.edu/featuredpost/stony-brook-foundation-stars-of-stony-brook-gala-raises-nearly-2-million-for-student-scholarships/
On May 6, more than 300 friends, alumni, faculty and staff of Stony Brook University gathered together online for the first-ever virtual Stars of Stony Brook Gala. Despite the unconventional format of the event, a remarkable $1,994,000 million was raised to support Stony Brook Foundation Trustee Scholarships at the university.
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Stony Brook Jumps into Top 40 of all U.S. Universities in New QS Survey; #1 Public in New York State
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/stony-brook-jumps-into-top-40-of-all-u-s-universities-in-new-qs-survey-1-public-in-new-york-state/?utm_source=SBUSocial&utm_medium=LinkedIn&utm_campaign=News
STONY BROOK, NY, May 5, 2021 – Stony Brook University has been ranked No. 39 among all U.S. universities in the QS US University Rankings 2021, moving up from No. 45 last year and placing in the top 5.5% nationwide. The University is also ranked as No. 5 among all colleges and universities in New York State. In addition to improving from #45 in 2020 to #39 in 2021, Stony Brook:
Ranks #6 in the country on the diversity and internationalisation index
Ranks #13 in the country among public universities
Ranks as the #1 public university in New York
The rankings are based on weighted scores in the categories of Employability, Diversity and Internationalization, Learning Experience and Research.
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SBU Ranked 7th in Forbes Ranking of America’s Best Employers for Women
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/sbu-ranked-7th-in-forbes-ranking-of-americas-best-employers-for-women/
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Five SBU Subjects in Top 100 of Academic Ranking of World Universities
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/five-sbu-subjects-place-in-top-100-of-global-shanghai-ranking/?utm_source=LinkedIn&utm_medium=SBUSocial&utm_campaign=News
According to the Academic Ranking of World Universities (ARWU) Global Ranking of Academic Subjects, Stony Brook University has placed among the top 100 in the world in several subject areas:
#19 Mathematics
#46 Atmospheric Sciences
#66 Dentistry & Oral Sciences
#73 Psychology
#76 Political Sciences
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SBU Soars to 62nd Overall, 23rd Among Public Universities in Forbes’ Top College Rankings
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/sbu-soars-to-62nd-overall-23rd-among-public-universities-in-forbes-top-college-rankings/
Stony Brook University has been ranked 62nd overall and 23rd among public universities in the Forbes 2021 America’s Top Colleges rankings, which were released today.
Stony Brook rose significantly since the 2019 rankings, Forbes‘ last since taking a year hiatus due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Stony Brook jumped up 114 places in the overall rankings and 26 places among public universities.
great news but id love for the public #s to be higher.
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SBU Soars to 62nd Overall, 23rd Among Public Universities in Forbes’ Top College Rankings
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/sbu-soars-to-62nd-overall-23rd-among-public-universities-in-forbes-top-college-rankings/
Stony Brook University has been ranked 62nd overall and 23rd among public universities in the Forbes 2021 America’s Top Colleges rankings, which were released today.
Stony Brook rose significantly since the 2019 rankings, Forbes‘ last since taking a year hiatus due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Stony Brook jumped up 114 places in the overall rankings and 26 places among public universities.
Great news but id love for the public #s to be higher.
Superb news! The Forbes ‘America’s Top Colleges List” is widely respected and this enormous jump in rank is virtually unprecedented. Because it includes a blend of all sorts of colleges the ‘Forbes List’ is often favored (as a go-to quick source) over USN&WR.
Any high-achieving LI high school student/parent eyeballing colleges and costs should have SBU on their radar. The cost/quality advantages jump off the page.
For those who do SUNY comparisons, Bing is 77 and University of Buffalo is 111.
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SBU Soars to 62nd Overall, 23rd Among Public Universities in Forbes’ Top College Rankings
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/sbu-soars-to-62nd-overall-23rd-among-public-universities-in-forbes-top-college-rankings/
Stony Brook University has been ranked 62nd overall and 23rd among public universities in the Forbes 2021 America’s Top Colleges rankings, which were released today.
Stony Brook rose significantly since the 2019 rankings, Forbes‘ last since taking a year hiatus due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Stony Brook jumped up 114 places in the overall rankings and 26 places among public universities.
Great news but id love for the public #s to be higher.
Superb news! The Forbes ‘America’s Top Colleges List” is widely respected and this enormous jump in rank is virtually unprecedented. Because it includes a blend of all sorts of colleges the ‘Forbes List’ is often favored (as a go-to quick source) over USN&WR.
Any high-achieving LI high school student/parent eyeballing colleges and costs should have SBU on their radar. The cost/quality advantages jump off the page.
For those who do SUNY comparisons, Bing is 77 and University of Buffalo is 111.
My son transferred to SBU this fall as a Junior student. His diploma is going to look really good next to his law degree diploma.
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not to take anything away from this- but look at the criteria used.
i think the larger social movements and covid crunch has boosted SB. the price is so low. other state universities cost so much now, like 20k even for in state.
so we move up on price alone. and diversity, upward mobility. having many NYC residents who end up working in the NYC/LI area (where salaries are higher) bodes well too.
still id like us to improve on the public side; 26 isnt exactly middle ground but we should be on par with the Wisconsins; ok to be behind Mich, Texas, UCLA, UVa, etc.
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Former President Stanley had a goal of Top 20 public so almost there. With the state’s poor financial future I see a ranking of #15-20 being the ceiling.
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president's report: https://alumniandfriends.stonybrook.edu/site/DocServer/President_s_Report_September_2021.pdf?docID=3541
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unimpressive figure but still good ink: https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/sbu-ranks-no-125-in-times-higher-education-wall-street-journal-2022-college-rankings/
SBU Ranks No. 125 in Times Higher Education/Wall Street Journal 2022 College Rankings
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unimpressive figure but still good ink: https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/sbu-ranks-no-125-in-times-higher-education-wall-street-journal-2022-college-rankings/
SBU Ranks No. 125 in Times Higher Education/Wall Street Journal 2022 College Rankings
#125 is nothing to brag about. I don’t know why it was even posted on the SB site.
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unimpressive figure but still good ink: https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/sbu-ranks-no-125-in-times-higher-education-wall-street-journal-2022-college-rankings/
SBU Ranks No. 125 in Times Higher Education/Wall Street Journal 2022 College Rankings
#125 is nothing to brag about. I don’t know why it was even posted on the SB site.
If I am not mistaken, that number has dropped considerably from last year??
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yes http://sbufan.createaforum.com/around-stony-brook/academic-rankings/msg27604/?topicseen#msg27604
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Stony Brook University Hospital Named One of America’s 100 Best for Cardiac and Stroke Care
https://news.stonybrook.edu/newsroom/press-release/medical/stony-brook-university-hospital-named-one-of-americas-100-best-for-cardiac-and-stroke-care/
Engineering Professor, Stony Brook Start-Up Awarded $1 Million from NSF for Robotics Research
https://www.stonybrook.edu/far-beyond/story.php?slug=stony-brook-research-group-start-up-awarded-1-million-from-nsf-for-robotics-proposal
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https://news.stonybrook.edu/stony-brook-matters/alumni/stony-brook-places-top-10-hearst-journalism-awards/
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https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/sbu-ranks-no-195-in-u-s-news-world-report-2022-global-university-rankings/
The U.S. News & World Report 2022 Global University Rankings placed Stony Brook University No. 195 among the world’s 1,750 top universities, No. 68 in the U.S. and No. 40 among public institutions.
Stony Brook again ranked among the top 100 in the world in the fields of Physics (No. 63) and Psychiatry/Psychology (No. 73).
Institutions from the U.S. and more than 90 other countries were ranked based on 13 indicators that measure academic research performance and global and regional reputations.
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https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/sbu-ranks-no-195-in-u-s-news-world-report-2022-global-university-rankings/
The U.S. News & World Report 2022 Global University Rankings placed Stony Brook University No. 195 among the world’s 1,750 top universities, No. 68 in the U.S. and No. 40 among public institutions.
Stony Brook again ranked among the top 100 in the world in the fields of Physics (No. 63) and Psychiatry/Psychology (No. 73).
Institutions from the U.S. and more than 90 other countries were ranked based on 13 indicators that measure academic research performance and global and regional reputations.
How are we 68th in the US, but 93rd in the National rankings? I'd imagine the criteria for the "global" vs "national" lists are different.
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SBU College of Business Earns AACSB International Accreditation
November 16, 2021
Stony Brook University’s College of Business has been recognized for its world-class curriculum and its demonstrated focus on excellence in all areas — including teaching, research, curriculum development and student learning — and has earned AACSB International Accreditation.
Less than six percent of the world’s schools offering business degree programs hold AACSB business accreditation. Now, Stony Brook University will join the ranks of Harvard University, Yale University and 887 other institutions across 58 countries and territories.
“Stony Brook University is honored to receive this accreditation and join a select group of schools dedicated to excellence in business education,” said President Maurie McInnis. “This honor is a recognition that faculty members at the College of Business conduct world-class scholarship, while creating meaningful classroom experiences that produce outstanding student outcomes. I want to congratulate Dean Manuel London and the entire College of Business on this significant achievement.”
“AACSB accreditation is the product of many years of teamwork and perseverance from an exceptionally dedicated College of Business faculty and staff,” said London. “It supports what we have recognized all along; that Stony Brook University business students are among the best and brightest, with a drive and determination that will ensure they are prepared to be the leaders of tomorrow.”
“We congratulate Stony Brook University and Dean Manuel London on earning accreditation and applaud the entire College of Business team — including the administration, faculty, staff and students — for their roles in earning this respected honor,” said Stephanie M. Bryant, executive vice president and chief accreditation officer of AACSB.
Founded in 1916, AACSB is the longest-serving global accrediting body for business schools, and the largest business education network connecting learners, educators and businesses worldwide. AACSB-accredited schools have successfully undergone a rigorous review process conducted by their peers in the business education community, ensuring that they have the resources, credentials, and commitment needed to provide students with a first-rate, future-focused business education.
Stony Brook FINALLY has an accredited business school! Great! One of the first steps to attracting a better student body than the one we have right now.
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The ultimate accomplishment, now official, as obvious it has been for decades
https://www.buffalo.edu/home/story-repository.host.html/content/shared/university/news/news-center-releases/2022/01/007.detail.html
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/a-joint-statement-from-the-university-at-buffalo-and-stony-brook-university-on-being-designated-as-new-york-states-flagship-public-universities/
https://www.suny.edu/suny-news/press-releases/1-22/1-5-22-gov/gov-plans-for-suny.html
To help achieve these goals, Governor Hochul's plan to expand SUNY's reach begins with making the institution into a global and national leader on research and innovation:
Transform Stony Brook and Buffalo into global research institutions: Stony Brook University and University at Buffalo will become the flagships for SUNY, as well as world class research institutions. These campuses will look to meet the goal of $1 billion each in primarily federal research funding by 2030. This would put these two universities in the top 20 public universities nationally in research expenditures. As a first step toward strengthening these institutions, Governor Hochul is announcing $102 million for a new academic building for the School of Engineering and Applied Sciences at the University at Buffalo, and $100 million in funding to construct a multidisciplinary engineering building at Stony Brook.
And now, the second class 8)
Revitalize Albany and Binghamton as nation-leading research and teaching universities: University at Albany and Binghamton University will be transformed into nation leading research and teaching universities, with a goal of achieving $500 million each in annual research funding. This will increase the economic impact of applied research and development, expand and diversify student enrollment, and improve graduation rates. Governor Hochul also plans to propose that the College of Nanoscale Science and Engineering (CNSE) reunite with the University at Albany to streamline management and promote research excellence. Binghamton University will also host BATTERY-NY, a technology development and manufacturing center. The Center will support the Southern Tier economy by developing the advanced manufacturing of batteries for clean energy technologies that will transform the transportation, military, and energy sectors. The Center will also establish a robust manufacturing infrastructure to support multiple industries and their supply chains.
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The ultimate accomplishment, now official, as obvious it has been for decades
https://www.buffalo.edu/home/story-repository.host.html/content/shared/university/news/news-center-releases/2022/01/007.detail.html
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/a-joint-statement-from-the-university-at-buffalo-and-stony-brook-university-on-being-designated-as-new-york-states-flagship-public-universities/
https://www.suny.edu/suny-news/press-releases/1-22/1-5-22-gov/gov-plans-for-suny.html
To help achieve these goals, Governor Hochul's plan to expand SUNY's reach begins with making the institution into a global and national leader on research and innovation:
Transform Stony Brook and Buffalo into global research institutions: Stony Brook University and University at Buffalo will become the flagships for SUNY, as well as world class research institutions. These campuses will look to meet the goal of $1 billion each in primarily federal research funding by 2030. This would put these two universities in the top 20 public universities nationally in research expenditures. As a first step toward strengthening these institutions, Governor Hochul is announcing $102 million for a new academic building for the School of Engineering and Applied Sciences at the University at Buffalo, and $100 million in funding to construct a multidisciplinary engineering building at Stony Brook.
And now, the second class 8)
Revitalize Albany and Binghamton as nation-leading research and teaching universities: University at Albany and Binghamton University will be transformed into nation leading research and teaching universities, with a goal of achieving $500 million each in annual research funding. This will increase the economic impact of applied research and development, expand and diversify student enrollment, and improve graduation rates. Governor Hochul also plans to propose that the College of Nanoscale Science and Engineering (CNSE) reunite with the University at Albany to streamline management and promote research excellence. Binghamton University will also host BATTERY-NY, a technology development and manufacturing center. The Center will support the Southern Tier economy by developing the advanced manufacturing of batteries for clean energy technologies that will transform the transportation, military, and energy sectors. The Center will also establish a robust manufacturing infrastructure to support multiple industries and their supply chains.
Okay, If Hochul wants to make SBU the premier FlagShip University then she needs to make the athletic program FlagShip as well. Like turning the football program into an FBS team and firing the existing coaches and hiring all new with FBS experience. Right??
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wow, this is big news, no? shared with one is better than shared with three, no?
i do feel a bit for bingo and ualBAny as they do have aspects that make them candidates for this.
note- technically UCLA is not a flagship (Berkeley), i think. not sure if any other states have co-flagships...
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In reality only Buffalo and Stony Brook can properly represent the state as flagship Universities. Both share a lot in common from a strong emphasis in research, strong graduate programs, top tier professional schools, and large student bodies. They are also in geographic locations that can properly cover the two traditional regions of New York (Upstate, and Downstate NYC/Long Island)
The last governor that tried to officially make Stony Brook a flagship went down in disgrace (Spitzer). Lets hope this lady a has better career
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i just read this- perhaps implying that the AAU had something (if not everything) to do with it:
Across the country, flagship universities are those that provide vital leadership in advancing their home state’s public higher education mission. These universities, most of which, like UB and SBU, are invited members of the Association of American Universities (AAU), are the preeminent centers for research and graduate education in their respective states.
i also read this as SB is already a tech/sciences school, so it will become more so in the future:
Grow enrollment through developing institutional specialization: To encourage each SUNY campus to establish its own distinct identity, SUNY will create a challenge grant available to colleges that propose an area of distinction designed to grow enrollment and improve student job outcomes.
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Better late than never:
2008 - https://www.sbstatesman.com/2008/09/18/flagship-status-on-back-burner/
"Before leaving office, former New York governor, Eliot Spitzer declared both Stony Brook University and the University at Buffalo as flagship institutes that would propel in research and would bring about economic development. However, with the new administration in place, the future of the whole SUNY system, including Stony Brook, is on hold."
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What the…? I thought this day would never come.
The thing about flagships is that they traditionally go by just the state’s name. I don’t see us rebranding to New York. But Rutgers sets precedent for weird nomenclatures.
This better mean that we get flagship level athletic funding as well.
I don’t take the “specialization” comment to target us. The flagship school of each state generally is very well-rounded, even if it has its own points of special strength. I think she was referring to the smaller colleges which lack a distinct identity and her plan is to further “specialize” those. Like what is Farmingdale to New Yorkers other than the school that SBU beats up in basketball by 40 points each year?
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What the…? I thought this day would never come.
The thing about flagships is that they traditionally go by just the state’s name. I don’t see us rebranding to New York. But Rutgers sets precedent for weird nomenclatures.
This better mean that we get flagship level athletic funding as well.
I don’t take the “specialization” comment to target us. The flagship school of each state generally is very well-rounded, even if it has its own points of special strength. I think she was referring to the smaller colleges which lack a distinct identity and her plan is to further “specialize” those. Like what is Farmingdale to New Yorkers other than the school that SBU beats up in basketball by 40 points each year?
Rutgers follows the same nomenclature as Stony Brook...
Officially it is known as Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey
I don't see a problem with our name:
Officially the State University of New York at Stony Brook and marketed as Stony Brook University (SBU)
State University of New York at Buffalo and marketed as University at Buffalo (UB)
In California you have
University of California, Los Angeles
University of California, Berkeley
Maybe what the State of New York should consider is adopting a different brand for the flagship schools such as University of New York, Stony Brook and University of New York, Berkeley while everyone else retains their SUNY label
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What the…? I thought this day would never come.
The thing about flagships is that they traditionally go by just the state’s name. I don’t see us rebranding to New York. But Rutgers sets precedent for weird nomenclatures.
This better mean that we get flagship level athletic funding as well.
I don’t take the “specialization” comment to target us. The flagship school of each state generally is very well-rounded, even if it has its own points of special strength. I think she was referring to the smaller colleges which lack a distinct identity and her plan is to further “specialize” those. Like what is Farmingdale to New Yorkers other than the school that SBU beats up in basketball by 40 points each year?
true, good point.
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I prefer "Stony Brook University of New York" myself. "University at Buffalo of New York" flows a bit weirdly, but it could work too.
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the only other option i think is NYSU, Stony Brook.
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details: https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/governor-hochul-names-stony-brook-a-flagship-university-in-state-of-the-state-address/
Hochul’s plan includes a number of proposals aimed at higher education in general and Stony Brook specifically, including:
Additional funding to construct a multidisciplinary engineering building on campus
Supporting the Stony Brook/Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory partnership to launch NeuroAI, an initiative that combines neuroscience and artificial intelligence
Expansion of the Stony Brook Center for Clean Water Technology research to include wastewater treatment technology and creation of the Suffolk County Wastewater Management District, both with the goal of protecting Long Island’s aquifer system
Funding for the modernization and repair of scientific labs
Funding for “Grand Challenges” that will encourage cross-disciplinary research
Increased funding to attract world-class faculty and researchers
Hochul also outlined a healthcare plan aimed at rebuilding and growing the state’s healthcare workforce by 20% over the next five years, with a $10 billion commitment that includes $4 billion to support higher wages and bonuses, and $2 billion for healthcare capital infrastructure and improved lab capacity. The plan also calls for increased training, attracting students by providing financial support for the education of healthcare professionals who work in New York State, supporting career flexibility for direct care workers, investing in digital innovation, making affordable healthcare coverage available to everyone, expanding and improving access to prenatal and postnatal care, establishing a state master plan for aging, and strengthening addiction, suicide, mental health and domestic violence services.
Hochul’s agenda includes nine key components: rebuilding our healthcare economy; protecting public safety and taking strong action against gun violence; investing in New York’s people; investing in New York’s communities; making New York’s housing system more affordable, equitable, and stable; making New York a national leader in climate action and green jobs; rebuilding New York’s teacher workforce and reimagining higher education; advancing New York’s place as a national equity model; and making critical reforms to restore New Yorkers’ faith in their government.
a deeper dive (pg187-192): https://www.governor.ny.gov/sites/default/files/2022-01/2022StateoftheStateBook.pdf
Develop Global, National, and Regional Research Institutions, Including Stony Brook and Buffalo as SUNY’s Flagship Institutions
Core elements of this initiative include:
Supporting initiatives include:
• Increase athletics competitiveness through investment in Women’s and Men’s Division 1 teams.
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Wow, I'm excited. Should I be? This school and state have let me down too many times in the last 5 years...
But damn, that says so much about what this flagship status is going to do for us. Screw it, I'm optimistic. Don't make me a fool, please.
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its light on details, and its buried in 237 pages of legislation.
BUT, it mentions athletics, and we are likely more in need than buf, and more likely to make a move i think.
AND it comes from the highest authority in the state, meaning mcinnis's boss. so that's something.
with that said, it's vague. that could mean a lot of things. but when added to the flagship status and the overall tone, i think its directionally good.
what it DOES tell me is that perhaps cuts are less likely- or could they be- cutting one to support another.
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its light on details, and its buried in 237 pages of legislation.
BUT, it mentions athletics, and we are likely more in need than buf, and more likely to make a move i think.
AND it comes from the highest authority in the state, meaning mcinnis's boss. so that's something.
with that said, it's vague. that could mean a lot of things. but when added to the flagship status and the overall tone, i think its directionally good.
what it DOES tell me is that perhaps cuts are less likely- or could they be- cutting one to support another.
Cutting other SUNY school budgets to boost the flagships is definitely a possibility. NYS finances suck and raising taxes even more is the last thing the state needs. And just because the interim governor proposes something doesn’t make it happen. The legislature needs to fund it.
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its light on details, and its buried in 237 pages of legislation.
BUT, it mentions athletics, and we are likely more in need than buf, and more likely to make a move i think.
AND it comes from the highest authority in the state, meaning mcinnis's boss. so that's something.
with that said, it's vague. that could mean a lot of things. but when added to the flagship status and the overall tone, i think its directionally good.
what it DOES tell me is that perhaps cuts are less likely- or could they be- cutting one to support another.
Cutting other SUNY school budgets to boost the flagships is definitely a possibility. NYS finances suck and raising taxes even more is the last thing the state needs. And just because the interim governor proposes something doesn’t make it happen. The legislature needs to fund it.
Bingo!!
Who's to say she is going to be elected Govenor this year too??
I think if Lee Zeldin is elected Govenor, SBU has a better chance of securing more funs for Athletics, but Zeldin doesn't stand a chance against the leftist mobs in NYC and Albany!!
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We live in a hierarchical society where tiers of services exist in all aspects of our lives. Its about time that the state of New York finally recognized this.
I know NYS has always had a somewhat egalitarian approach to education which in a way is admirable but the reality is that current system of lumping all the schools together (community colleges, state 4-year colleges, and research universities) under the SUNY system has been hurting the reputation of the large research schools and reducing their capacity to differentiate their brands for the longest. Because the fact is that people tend to measure the strength of a brand based on its weakest links. In what world does it make senses to have a community college under the same system as your national AAU Universities?
That's why the major schools (Buffalo, Stony Brook) have made conscious efforts to get away from the SUNY brand with their own rebranding efforts for a long time now. Stony Brook faded their use of "State University of New York" over the years for a reason.
What we should aspire to have in New York eventually is a statewide tiered system like California has managed very successfully:
- (State?) University of New York (Buffalo, Stony Brook, Albany, Binghamton) where Stony Brook and Buffalo lead as flagships of that system. ---> University of California
- New York State College (New Paltz, Geneseo, NYIT, Buffalo State, Oneonta, Cortland, etc) --> California State University
- New York Community Colleges (all the community colleges) --> California Community Colleges
On that same note - New York should encourage kids that attend community colleges to later move on to 4-year state colleges but to make it slightly more difficult to enter the top research schools. That mandate of making all credits easily transferable system-wide while well-intended, reduces the value of education in a research university. I'm just being real here. Not trying to be a snob or elitist - It's just the way things are whether we like it or not.
I hope this governor takes it further. SUNY needs reform and needs to be split into sub-components that better reflect the mission of each. It's about time that our educational structure catches up to the rest of the country
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We live in a hierarchical society where tiers of services exist in all aspects of our lives. Its about time that the state of New York finally recognized this.
I know NYS has always had a somewhat egalitarian approach to education which in a way is admirable but the reality is that current system of lumping all the schools together (community colleges, state 4-year colleges, and research universities) under the SUNY system has been hurting the reputation of the large research schools and reducing their capacity to differentiate their brands for the longest. Because the fact is that people tend to measure the strength of a brand based on its weakest links. In what world does it make senses to have a community college branded under the same system as your national AAU Universities?
That's why the major schools (Buffalo, Stony Brook) have made conscious efforts to get away from the SUNY brand with their own rebranding efforts for a long time now. Stony Brook faded their use of "State University of New York" over the years for a reason.
What we should aspire to have in New York eventually is a statewide tiered system like California has managed very successfully:
- University of New York (Buffalo, Stony Brook, Albany, Binghamton) where Stony Brook and Buffalo lead as flagships of that system. ---> University of California
- New York State College (New Paltz, Geneseo, NYIT, Buffalo State, Oneonta, Cortland, etc) --> California State University
- New York Community Colleges (all the community colleges) --> California Community Colleges
On that same note - New York should encourage kids that attend community colleges to later move on to 4-year state colleges but to make it slightly higher to enter the top research schools. That mandate of making all credits easily transferable system-wide while well-intended, reduced the value of education in a research university. I'm just being real here. Not trying to be a snob or elitist - It's just the way things are whether we like it or not.
I hope this governor takes it further. SUNY needs reform. It's about time that our educational structure catches up to the rest of the country
In my opinion. Paying big money and putting yourself or your parents in financial distress to earn a college degree is corrupt and extortion. There is nothing wrong with going to a 2-year community college and or trade school to learn a blue-collar trade.
Getting a job at something like the Long Island Rail Road, Electrical union, carpenters union, plumbers unions, HVAC union. or owning your own business in one of these high pay trades can earn you more money than 80% of college degree people are told is the only way to survive in life. It's all bullshi#..
Unless you are going to college to be an MD, Lawer, accounting...College is a waste of time and money.
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We live in a hierarchical society where tiers of services exist in all aspects of our lives. Its about time that the state of New York finally recognized this.
I know NYS has always had a somewhat egalitarian approach to education which in a way is admirable but the reality is that current system of lumping all the schools together (community colleges, state 4-year colleges, and research universities) under the SUNY system has been hurting the reputation of the large research schools and reducing their capacity to differentiate their brands for the longest. Because the fact is that people tend to measure the strength of a brand based on its weakest links. In what world does it make senses to have a community college branded under the same system as your national AAU Universities?
That's why the major schools (Buffalo, Stony Brook) have made conscious efforts to get away from the SUNY brand with their own rebranding efforts for a long time now. Stony Brook faded their use of "State University of New York" over the years for a reason.
What we should aspire to have in New York eventually is a statewide tiered system like California has managed very successfully:
- University of New York (Buffalo, Stony Brook, Albany, Binghamton) where Stony Brook and Buffalo lead as flagships of that system. ---> University of California
- New York State College (New Paltz, Geneseo, NYIT, Buffalo State, Oneonta, Cortland, etc) --> California State University
- New York Community Colleges (all the community colleges) --> California Community Colleges
On that same note - New York should encourage kids that attend community colleges to later move on to 4-year state colleges but to make it slightly higher to enter the top research schools. That mandate of making all credits easily transferable system-wide while well-intended, reduced the value of education in a research university. I'm just being real here. Not trying to be a snob or elitist - It's just the way things are whether we like it or not.
I hope this governor takes it further. SUNY needs reform. It's about time that our educational structure catches up to the rest of the country
In my opinion. Paying big money and putting yourself or your parents in financial distress to earn a college degree is corrupt and extortion. There is nothing wrong with going to a 2-year community college and or trade school to learn a blue-collar trade.
Getting a job at something like the Long Island Rail Road, Electrical union, carpenters union, plumbers unions, HVAC union. or owning your own business in one of these high pay trades can earn you more money than 80% of college degree people are told is the only way to survive in life. It's all bullshi#..
Unless you are going to college to be an MD, Lawer, accounting...College is a waste of time and money.
I agree. I don't want to get into the weeds on whether college is worth it or not. That's a very personal decision. From my POV attending Stony Brook (Comp Sci) and Hofstra (MBA) have done wonders for my own personal goals of having a career in tech and also running a small-business. I could've probably achieved the same by going to a Tech boot camp and getting certs and reading business books on my own. So yeah, there are different routes to get to the same destination.
I completely agree that there are many different routes to a good living in this country. This is why the USA is a great country. Because you can choose any trade, career and live a good life if you do things the right way and work hard. College is not for everyone, Trade school is not for everyone either, Community college is not for everyone. Everyone has their own path.
I also disgree with those parents that pay their kids college education. I know its well-intended. But kids should understand that their degree is on them and they have to see education from a financial standpoint early on. I paid college on my own as my mom didn't have the money anyway - but it turned out to be a blessing in disguise. It made me responsible, I made sacrifices to pay that loan quickly, and it taught me early on that money doesn't grow on trees.
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Now, to get back to the point. Our own perspective of college have nothing to do with what I mentioned in my previous points. The SUNY structure is harmful to the research universities. It devalues their brand at a national level. So something needs to be done in that front to split the system into sub-components that have their own mission.
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its light on details, and its buried in 237 pages of legislation.
BUT, it mentions athletics, and we are likely more in need than buf, and more likely to make a move i think.
AND it comes from the highest authority in the state, meaning mcinnis's boss. so that's something.
with that said, it's vague. that could mean a lot of things. but when added to the flagship status and the overall tone, i think its directionally good.
what it DOES tell me is that perhaps cuts are less likely- or could they be- cutting one to support another.
Cutting other SUNY school budgets to boost the flagships is definitely a possibility. NYS finances suck and raising taxes even more is the last thing the state needs. And just because the interim governor proposes something doesn’t make it happen. The legislature needs to fund it.
yes, and i actually meant a double-meaning there (i shouldve been clearer!). couldnt cutting an expensive sport fund others?
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eddie- GREAT post. especially this:
I know NYS has always had a somewhat egalitarian approach to education which in a way is admirable but the reality is that current system of lumping all the schools together (community colleges, state 4-year colleges, and research universities) under the SUNY system has been hurting the reputation of the large research schools and reducing their capacity to differentiate their brands for the longest.
i paid my own way through 3 degrees (8 years) and i think im better off for it. it also forces you to either not overspend, or if you do, to make it worth it.
with that said i also agree with hammer that trade schools shouldnt be snubbed; if we look to other english speaking countries, it doesnt have the same stigma and we should try to get back there.
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Finally! IMO This is worthless if it doesn't include a move to the FBS. We've been essentially the flagship with UB for about 20 years now due to AAU Status. if they're serious about this then we HAVE to invest heavily and move up to the FBS. The only public AAUs that have football in the FCS IIRC are still UC Davis and us. Most of our academic peers are in P5 conferences. I'm all for it though. Huge news for the university.
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Finally! IMO This is worthless if it doesn't include a move to the FBS. We've been essentially the flagship with UB for about 20 years now due to AAU Status. if they're serious about this then we HAVE to invest heavily and move up to the FBS. The only public AAUs that have football in the FCS IIRC are still UC Davis and us. Most of our academic peers are in P5 conferences. I'm all for it though. Huge news for the university.
Again, that is wrong or at least misleading. There are five AAU publics besides SB that are not FBS, four of which are not even FCS.
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Finally! IMO This is worthless if it doesn't include a move to the FBS. We've been essentially the flagship with UB for about 20 years now due to AAU Status. if they're serious about this then we HAVE to invest heavily and move up to the FBS. The only public AAUs that have football in the FCS IIRC are still UC Davis and us. Most of our academic peers are in P5 conferences. I'm all for it though. Huge news for the university.
Again, that is wrong or at least misleading. There are five AAU publics besides SB that are not FBS, four of which are not even FCS.
Those other four are all second-tier California schools that don't have football at all, so it's not misleading to not count them.
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Finally! IMO This is worthless if it doesn't include a move to the FBS. We've been essentially the flagship with UB for about 20 years now due to AAU Status. if they're serious about this then we HAVE to invest heavily and move up to the FBS. The only public AAUs that have football in the FCS IIRC are still UC Davis and us. Most of our academic peers are in P5 conferences. I'm all for it though. Huge news for the university.
Again, that is wrong or at least misleading. There are five AAU publics besides SB that are not FBS, four of which are not even FCS.
Those other four are all second-tier California schools that don't have football at all, so it's not misleading to not count them.
Read again. The point being addressed was about AAU schools.
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Finally! IMO This is worthless if it doesn't include a move to the FBS. We've been essentially the flagship with UB for about 20 years now due to AAU Status. if they're serious about this then we HAVE to invest heavily and move up to the FBS. The only public AAUs that have football in the FCS IIRC are still UC Davis and us. Most of our academic peers are in P5 conferences. I'm all for it though. Huge news for the university.
Again, that is wrong or at least misleading. There are five AAU publics besides SB that are not FBS, four of which are not even FCS.
Those other four are all second-tier California schools that don't have football at all, so it's not misleading to not count them.
Read again. The point being addressed was about AAU schools.
They're AAU, but they don't have football at all, so they don't count.
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Finally! IMO This is worthless if it doesn't include a move to the FBS. We've been essentially the flagship with UB for about 20 years now due to AAU Status. if they're serious about this then we HAVE to invest heavily and move up to the FBS. The only public AAUs that have football in the FCS IIRC are still UC Davis and us. Most of our academic peers are in P5 conferences. I'm all for it though. Huge news for the university.
Again, that is wrong or at least misleading. There are five AAU publics besides SB that are not FBS, four of which are not even FCS.
Those other four are all second-tier California schools that don't have football at all, so it's not misleading to not count them.
Read again. The point being addressed was about AAU schools.
They're AAU, but they don't have football at all, so they don't count.
Quite the opposite. If the issue is whether FBS is so much better for a school’s academic stature than FCS, yet there are very successful (AAU) schools without football at all, that gives even less support to the “FBS or bust” mentality. It may not support the conclusion you’ve already decided on but it’s basic logic.
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Finally! IMO This is worthless if it doesn't include a move to the FBS. We've been essentially the flagship with UB for about 20 years now due to AAU Status. if they're serious about this then we HAVE to invest heavily and move up to the FBS. The only public AAUs that have football in the FCS IIRC are still UC Davis and us. Most of our academic peers are in P5 conferences. I'm all for it though. Huge news for the university.
Again, that is wrong or at least misleading. There are five AAU publics besides SB that are not FBS, four of which are not even FCS.
Not misleading at all. Of the ones WITH FOOTBALL it is indeed only us and UC Davis who are FCS. The vast majority of our peers are not only FBS, but in P5 conferences. THAT is my point. It's time for NY State to put up or shut up with this Flagship designation. Long term (like possibly not in my lifetime long) goal should be the ACC or Big Ten.
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maybe not the biggest news, but this kinda thing is our strength, and its good that the expectations are so high that we should be on this list every year: https://news.stonybrook.edu/awards-and-honors/physics-department-earns-top-honors-for-teacher-preparation-program/
The Department of Physics and Astronomy in the College of Arts and Sciences was once again entered into The 5+ Club, the highest award available for teacher preparation from the Physics Teacher Education Coalition (PhysTEC), a joint project of the American Physical Society (APS) and the American Association of Physics Teachers (AAPT). This impressive recognition is due to the Department’s Master of Arts in Teaching (MAT) program that graduated five or more qualified physics teachers during the 2020-2021 academic year, one of only nine institutions recognized in the nation. The Department has received this recognition in six out of the past seven years. This puts Stony Brook in approximately the top five universities in the country in the training of physics teachers.
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https://newjersey.news12.com/stony-brook-university-hospital-stays-on-nation-s-best-hospital-list-for-4th-straight-year
Stony Brook University Hospital stays on nation’s best hospital list for 4th straight year
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https://connecticut.news12.com/moral-obligation-stony-brook-student-to-spend-spring-break-bringing-donations-to-ukrainian-refugees-in-romania
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Five Stony Brook Programs Rank Among the Top Worldwide
https://news.stonybrook.edu/alumni/five-stony-brook-programs-rank-among-the-top-worldwide/
The QS World University Rankings, a leading organization for international rankings, rated the world’s top universities by subject area, and placed Stony Brook University’s Physics and Astronomy program in the top 100, coming in at #85, up from #89 in 2021. Four other subjects placed in the top 200 — Mathematics (#123), Geology (#150-200), Geophysics (#151-200) and in the broad subject area of Natural Sciences (#165).
A total of 1,543 institutions were ranked across 51 subject areas. QS ranks universities by subject based on academic reputation, employer reputation, citations per paper, and an H-index, which attempts to measure the impact and quality of work published by scientists and scholars. Weightings vary by discipline.
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https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/assemblyman-englebright-secures-1m-for-stony-brook-cancer-centers-nci-application/
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SBU Achieves Highest-Ever Rankings from U.S. News & World Report
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/sbu-achieves-highest-ever-rankings-from-u-s-news-world-report/#:~:text=SBU%20Ranked%20%2377%20Nationally%2C%20%23,its%202023%20Best%20Colleges%20publication.
SBU Ranked #77 nationally, #31 among public universities in America’s Best Colleges
Stony Brook, recently named as a flagship in the State University of New York (SUNY) system, is ranked #77 among national universities — a significant jump of 16 places from a year ago — and moved up seven spots to #31 among public universities. It is also the first time Stony Brook is the top-ranked public university in New York State without tying with another university.
Stony Brook’s ranking among 443 national universities places it in a six-way tie with Baylor University, Clemson University, Loyola Marymount University, Michigan State University, and Penn State University. U.S. News & World Report’s rankings are considered to be one of the premier rankings of U.S. higher education institutions.
Stony Brook saw increases in several individual categories, including faculty resources, peer assessment, student excellence, graduation and retention, and financial resources.
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SBU Achieves Highest-Ever Rankings from U.S. News & World Report
SBU Ranked #77 nationally, #31 among public universities in America’s Best Colleges
Stony Brook, recently named as a flagship in the State University of New York (SUNY) system, is ranked #77 among national universities — a significant jump of 16 places from a year ago — and moved up seven spots to #31 among public universities. It is also the first time Stony Brook is the top-ranked public university in New York State without tying with another university.
Stony Brook’s ranking among 443 national universities places it in a six-way tie with Baylor University, Clemson University, Loyola Marymount University, Michigan State University, and Penn State University. U.S. News & World Report’s rankings are considered to be one of the premier rankings of U.S. higher education institutions.
Stony Brook saw increases in several individual categories, including faculty resources, peer assessment, student excellence, graduation and retention, and financial resources.
Those are great peers to have. Additionally, it puts us clearly above Binghamton and Buffalo ;D
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yes and i think the 77 is the more impressive # than the 31. maybe. California alone has probably more than 5 alone that are in the top 30. i didnt check.
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It's destiny. Stony Brook will continue its rise. Slowly but surely. Until the day we fulfill John S. Toll's dream of Stony Brook being the "Berkeley of the East"
Go Seawolves!
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President McInnis Delivers Stony Brook’s State of the University Address
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/president-mcinnis-delivers-stony-brook-university-state-of-the-university-address/?utm_source=LinkedIn&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=News
Some of the university’s recent successes McInnis cited include:
Being named one of two flagship universities of the State University of New York System;
Named as a finalist to become the anchor institution for the Center for Climate Solutions on Governors Island;
Joining the Colonial Athletic Association;
Earning its highest ranking from US News & World Report College Ranking: #77 nationally and #31 for public institutions and the #1 public in New York State;
An increase of 18 percentage points in the four-year graduation rate and 10 percentage points in the six-year graduation rate over an eight-year span. These increases were realized while keeping graduation rate equity gaps closed among Black, Latinx, and white students, first generation students and those whose parents earned degrees, and students from all socioeconomic levels.
The School of Communications and Journalism received an Inaugural Solutions Hub Designation as one of only four universities selected;
The College of Business received its full accreditation from the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business.
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Top Northeast Entrepreneurship: Grad
https://www.princetonreview.com/business-school-rankings?rankings=top-northeast-entrepreneurship-grad
For our "2023 Top Schools for Entrepreneurship Studies by Region", we salute schools in seven zones—Mid-Atlantic, Midwest, Northeast, South, Southwest, West and International (outside of the United States).
Our best graduate entrepreneurship programs list is based on institutional survey data, including academic offerings, experiential learning opportunities, and career outcomes, among other factors.
#9
State University of New York - Stony Brook University - College of Business
Stony Brook, NY • 388 Full-Time Enrollment
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Healthgrades Ranks Stony Brook University Hospital Among America’s 50 Best
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/healthgrades-ranks-stony-brook-university-hospital-among-americas-50-best/
Stony Brook University Hospital (SBUH) has achieved the highest level of national recognition as one of America’s 50 Best Hospitals for 2023, according to new research released by Healthgrades. This places SBUH in the top one percent of hospitals in the country.
SBUH has steadily increased its rankings — from the top 250 since 2015, to the top 100 since 2019, and now the top 50 — a reflection of its commitment to bring the best in care to its patients.
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Stony Brook Online Master’s Nursing Program Named by U.S. News to Top 10 Best List
https://news.stonybrook.edu/newsroom/press-release/medical/stony-brook-online-masters-nursing-program-named-by-u-s-news-to-top-10-best-list/
https://www.usnews.com/education/online-education/nursing/rankings
Stony Brook University--SUNY
HSC Level 2 - Rm 218, Stony Brook, NY 11794-8240
#8 in Best Online Master's in Nursing Programs (tie)
Overall Score 96/100
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a few updates that may be of general interest...
Haresh Gurnani Selected to Lead College of Business
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/haresh-gurnani-selected-to-lead-college-of-business/
Mark Cortez Is the New Executive Director of Admissions
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/mark-cortez-is-the-new-executive-director-of-admissions/
New Anti-Cancer Compound Originally Discovered at Stony Brook Takes a Major Step Towards Clinical Development
https://news.stonybrook.edu/newsroom/press-release/medical/new-anti-cancer-compound-originally-discovered-at-stony-brook-takes-a-major-step-towards-clinical-development/
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i think this is big news- https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/sbu-ny-climate-exchange/#:~:text=New%20York%20City%20Mayor%20Eric,Island%20in%20the%20city's%20harbor.
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Great to see the University continues to excel in the academic front. Keep it up the great work Stony Brook!
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yes, especially coming off the flagship news, the CAA entry, and the jump in USNWR rankings. a lot of momentum in the last few years.
here's more details: https://gothamist.com/news/governors-island-chooses-stony-brook-university-as-partner-for-new-climate-research-center
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SBU is a good school academically but there D1 sports are not supported. Their actions speak louder than words. The AD is stuck here and as far as we all know he has not had a contract in a year. No other school would hire away the football coach and he makes a lot of money more than other FCS coaches for five bad losing seasons. Tuition is getting out of hand at this SUNY school.
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SBU Earns Highest-Ever Ranking from U.S. News & World Report
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/sbu-earns-highest-ever-ranking-from-u-s-news-world-report
The U.S. News & World Report 2024 Best Colleges rankings have just been released, and for the second year in a row, we moved up significantly and have solidified our spot as the #1 public university in New York.
We are now nationally ranked #58 overall and #26 among public universities, up 19 and 5 spots, respectively. In addition, we climbed to #12 in the U.S. for social mobility, which ties us at #2 among all AAU institutions.
Stony Brook is tied with the University of Connecticut in the national rankings, and maintained its status as the top public university in New York. It also was ranked #12 among national universities for social mobility, tied for second among all AAU institutions.
Stony Brook saw increases in several individual categories, including graduation rates, graduation rate performance, Pell graduation performance, borrower debt, faculty salaries and financial resources per student. Its 19-position increase in national ranking was the third-biggest among schools ranked in the top 60.
The publication ranked Stony Brook at #33 in best colleges for veterans, #39 in undergraduate psychology programs and #58 for most innovative schools. Additionally, two other SBU undergraduate programs that had not been ranked in 2023 made it into the rankings this year: economics (#88) and business (#135). These rankings are based on reputation surveys.
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Once the $500M from the Simons gift kicks in I wouldn’t be surprised to see SB as a top 20 public within 5 years. Of course, football will still be a bottom dweller.
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The Brook keeps climbing. Amazing!
Keep up the good work Stony Brook!!!
Hopefully we can climb a bit on the athletics side of things also
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Great! Now that we accomplished that, can Heilbron and Priore finally get the boot???
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Once the $500M from the Simons gift kicks in I wouldn’t be surprised to see SB as a top 20 public within 5 years. Of course, football will still be a bottom dweller.
Top 20 would be insane. I don't think that's all that likely, but I do think we do still have some move to move.
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Great! Now that we accomplished that, can Heilbron and Priore finally get the boot???
No way!! ;D ;D ;D
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Once the $500M from the Simons gift kicks in I wouldn’t be surprised to see SB as a top 20 public within 5 years. Of course, football will still be a bottom dweller.
Top 20 would be insane. I don't think that's all that likely, but I do think we do still have some move to move.
yes and no. by old standards, sure, it's unlikely.
but the new age of rankings means different criteria. socio-economic status climbing, DEI, etc. is now big game. these are factors- and they are BIG factors now. in fact, some top top top universities (see ivy law schools) are withdrawing from the rankings altogether, due to perceived biases of the past. so things are changing and id argue SB has the advantage, given that it largely serves the underserved, price is low, large student body, etc. Never say never! ;D
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Once the $500M from the Simons gift kicks in I wouldn’t be surprised to see SB as a top 20 public within 5 years. Of course, football will still be a bottom dweller.
Top 20 would be insane. I don't think that's all that likely, but I do think we do still have some move to move.
yes and no. by old standards, sure, it's unlikely.
but the new age of rankings means different criteria. socio-economic status climbing, DEI, etc. is now big game. these are factors- and they are BIG factors now. in fact, some top top top universities (see ivy law schools) are withdrawing from the rankings altogether, due to perceived biases of the past. so things are changing and id argue SB has the advantage, given that it largely serves the underserved, price is low, large student body, etc. Never say never! ;D
@Hammertime will soon call those "WOKE" metrics
LOL
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Stony Brook University posted the highest rating ever for a SUNY school in the latest best college rankings by U.S. News & World Report, school officials said.
https://www.newsday.com/long-island/education/stony-brook-university-us-news-and-world-report-best-colleges-sy6m21xz
Stony Brook, Adelphi and NYIT climbed the ranks in revamped 2023-2024 U.S. News & World Report Best Colleges rankings, benefiting from new criteria giving more weight to educational outcomes for low-income and first-generation students, while eliminating factors such as alumni giving and small classes.
According to U.S. News & World Report, the changes to methodology were the most significant in its 40-year history.
Stony Brook University's rise from 77 to 58, "is the highest rank ever for a SUNY institution," school officials said in a news release.
Hofstra University's rating fell from 166 to 185 in national universities. The university said its ranking suffered by elimination of small classes in assessments, and use of older data that didn't reflect recent improvements in retention and graduation rate, diversity and financial support for the neediest students.
While prestigious private institutions' top rankings remained relatively stable, public universities saw double-digit hikes as their mission of educating a diverse community gained traction in the assessments. Stony Brook also rose from 31 to 26 among public universities and ranked 12 among national universities for its social mobility — which measures the educational outcomes for first-generation and low-income students.
In a statement about its rising rank, Stony Brook cited "an increase in its 6-year graduation rate from 68% in 2016 to 78% in 2023, and the most economically challenged students at Stony Brook — those who receive Pell grants — graduate at a rate of 80%"
According to the U.S. News & World Report, its new criteria included first-generation graduation rates and proportion of college graduates earning more than those with only a high school diploma. The new first-generation rankings were based on graduation rates of federal loan recipients who entered college between fall 2011 and fall 2013.
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Stony Brook University posted the highest rating ever for a SUNY school in the latest best college rankings by U.S. News & World Report, school officials said.
https://www.newsday.com/long-island/education/stony-brook-university-us-news-and-world-report-best-colleges-sy6m21xz
Stony Brook, Adelphi and NYIT climbed the ranks in revamped 2023-2024 U.S. News & World Report Best Colleges rankings, benefiting from new criteria giving more weight to educational outcomes for low-income and first-generation students, while eliminating factors such as alumni giving and small classes.
According to U.S. News & World Report, the changes to methodology were the most significant in its 40-year history.
Stony Brook University's rise from 77 to 58, "is the highest rank ever for a SUNY institution," school officials said in a news release.
Hofstra University's rating fell from 166 to 185 in national universities. The university said its ranking suffered by elimination of small classes in assessments, and use of older data that didn't reflect recent improvements in retention and graduation rate, diversity and financial support for the neediest students.
While prestigious private institutions' top rankings remained relatively stable, public universities saw double-digit hikes as their mission of educating a diverse community gained traction in the assessments. Stony Brook also rose from 31 to 26 among public universities and ranked 12 among national universities for its social mobility — which measures the educational outcomes for first-generation and low-income students.
In a statement about its rising rank, Stony Brook cited "an increase in its 6-year graduation rate from 68% in 2016 to 78% in 2023, and the most economically challenged students at Stony Brook — those who receive Pell grants — graduate at a rate of 80%"
According to the U.S. News & World Report, its new criteria included first-generation graduation rates and proportion of college graduates earning more than those with only a high school diploma. The new first-generation rankings were based on graduation rates of federal loan recipients who entered college between fall 2011 and fall 2013.
I'm not sure "small classes" should have been removed from the factors. Unless there is some research proving otherwise, it seems basic that smaller classes would lead to better learning.
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Whatever the metrics!!!
Its nice to see the USNEWS recognizing the great work being done at Stony Brook University.
The University has been in a positive trajectory for a really long time. So we can definitely be sure that the administration has been doing something right.
This isn't a one year thing. If you go back all the way to the 80s the Brook has been in a non-stop upward academic trajectory. That is amazing!
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RY1- conventional wisdom, yes, i agree. But perhaps the discussion above about shifting factors plays into it.
For example, USNWR probably makes the argument that smaller classes caters to the wealthy and thus locks out the underserved, etc.
I know this is obvious to you but im writing it anyway!
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RY1- conventional wisdom, yes, i agree. But perhaps the discussion above about shifting factors plays into it.
For example, USNWR probably makes the argument that smaller classes caters to the wealthy and thus locks out the underserved, etc.
I know this is obvious to you but im writing it anyway!
While it’s good to see SB rise in the rankings, the rankings will ultimately mean less if the emphasis shifts from academic quality to the DEI factors.
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dont disagree.
unless of course- that is what academica considers to be quality. whole separate discussion!
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reminder to give back to the U: https://alumniandfriends.stonybrook.edu/site/Donation2?df_id=2660&2660.donation=form1&mfc_pref=T&
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SBU Sees New Highs in Application Rate, Enrollment
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/sbu-sees-new-highs-in-application-rate-enrollment/
Overall, the university received more applications than any other State University of New York school: 55,633 for the 2023-2024 semester.
There was a 24.2% increase over the previous year of all Stony Brook application submissions.
Freshmen application rates increased by 23.9% to 50,435.
Transfer student applications increased by 26.8% to 5,441.
The university’s out-of-state application rate rose by 7.1% to 9,451.
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SBU Sees New Highs in Application Rate, Enrollment
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/sbu-sees-new-highs-in-application-rate-enrollment/
Overall, the university received more applications than any other State University of New York school: 55,633 for the 2023-2024 semester.
There was a 24.2% increase over the previous year of all Stony Brook application submissions.
Freshmen application rates increased by 23.9% to 50,435.
Transfer student applications increased by 26.8% to 5,441.
The university’s out-of-state application rate rose by 7.1% to 9,451.
So the university is on a strong upward trajectory at the same time the football program is mired in irrelevance. Kind of supports the idea that SB football doesn’t really contribute to the success of the university.
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Stony Brook University posted the highest rating ever for a SUNY school in the latest best college rankings by U.S. News & World Report, school officials said.
https://www.newsday.com/long-island/education/stony-brook-university-us-news-and-world-report-best-colleges-sy6m21xz
Stony Brook, Adelphi and NYIT climbed the ranks in revamped 2023-2024 U.S. News & World Report Best Colleges rankings, benefiting from new criteria giving more weight to educational outcomes for low-income and first-generation students, while eliminating factors such as alumni giving and small classes.
According to U.S. News & World Report, the changes to methodology were the most significant in its 40-year history.
Stony Brook University's rise from 77 to 58, "is the highest rank ever for a SUNY institution," school officials said in a news release.
Hofstra University's rating fell from 166 to 185 in national universities. The university said its ranking suffered by elimination of small classes in assessments, and use of older data that didn't reflect recent improvements in retention and graduation rate, diversity and financial support for the neediest students.
While prestigious private institutions' top rankings remained relatively stable, public universities saw double-digit hikes as their mission of educating a diverse community gained traction in the assessments. Stony Brook also rose from 31 to 26 among public universities and ranked 12 among national universities for its social mobility — which measures the educational outcomes for first-generation and low-income students.
In a statement about its rising rank, Stony Brook cited "an increase in its 6-year graduation rate from 68% in 2016 to 78% in 2023, and the most economically challenged students at Stony Brook — those who receive Pell grants — graduate at a rate of 80%"
According to the U.S. News & World Report, its new criteria included first-generation graduation rates and proportion of college graduates earning more than those with only a high school diploma. The new first-generation rankings were based on graduation rates of federal loan recipients who entered college between fall 2011 and fall 2013.
This is great news, especially good for my kids who are in the workforce, and grads of SBU! They say that credit should always start at the top; so hats off to McGuinness! I wish the main athletics programs (namely, football and men's Bball) were simultaneously in an upward trajectory, but I'll take academics over athletics any day, as an alumnus. #58 not too shabby.
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SBU Sees New Highs in Application Rate, Enrollment
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/sbu-sees-new-highs-in-application-rate-enrollment/
Overall, the university received more applications than any other State University of New York school: 55,633 for the 2023-2024 semester.
There was a 24.2% increase over the previous year of all Stony Brook application submissions.
Freshmen application rates increased by 23.9% to 50,435.
Transfer student applications increased by 26.8% to 5,441.
The university’s out-of-state application rate rose by 7.1% to 9,451.
So the university is on a strong upward trajectory at the same time the football program is mired in irrelevance. Kind of supports the idea that SB football doesn’t really contribute to the success of the university.
The reality is that it doesn't. It never has been the case.
Stony Brook has been a Research intensive and good academic school for a long time now. Athletics has played no part in marketing the university. Which makes even more impressive to be honest. This is a school that was founded in 1957 and by the mid 1970s it was already a well-reputed research university. I think the U found itself in the right period of time and location to immediately thrive (Cold-war era public funding + golden age of the suburbs + NYS urgent need to have a good downstate public school)
I'm sure we can count with one hand the schoools founded post-1950 that are in top tier of U.S Universities today. There is probably only two or three.
With that said I do hope someday that sports can play a greater role at the U. Very few things build a sense of community like sports can. These days we need urgently need a sense of community
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excellent post! sounds right.
would love to see the USNWR (or AAU) listing alongside establishment year.
wishful on my side but we CAN have both. stanford does it, duke, texas, mich, uva, etc. I'd throw in UNC but they have fake classes.
SB is somewhat unique in that it's a perfect storm of: isolated campus, with a very large population center nearby, train station on campus, low tuition, and the nearby city is a perpetual hub of 1st/2nd generation immigrants that like to be near home and/or study hard sciences. i dont know any other friends that virtually have 90+ percent of their friends all living in a 25 mile radius.
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excellent post! sounds right.
would love to see the USNWR (or AAU) listing alongside establishment year.
wishful on my side but we CAN have both. stanford does it, duke, texas, mich, uva, etc. I'd throw in UNC but they have fake classes.
SB is somewhat unique in that it's a perfect storm of: isolated campus, with a very large population center nearby, train station on campus, low tuition, and the nearby city is a perpetual hub of 1st/2nd generation immigrants that like to be near home and/or study hard sciences. i dont know any other friends that virtually have 90+ percent of their friends all living in a 25 mile radius.
don't leave out the (0 gen) immigrants like me! haha ;)
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Stony Brook University Earns National Accreditation for Teacher and Leader Preparation Programs
https://www.longisland.com/news/10-04-23/stony-brook-university-earns-national-accreditation-for-teacher-and-leader-preparation-programs.html
The Commission added a “commendation” to recognize Stony Brook’s candidates for outstanding performance in the area of content knowledge relevant to the credential or degree sought. This outcome is achieved through D-TALE’s distributed model, in which candidates earn a degree in the content discipline as well as teacher certification.
In their summary, the AAQEP on-site review team wrote, “What is going on at Stony Brook is truly inspirational.”
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a year old but still the point is valid today: https://blog.prepscholar.com/guide-to-the-suny-colleges
Complete List of SUNY Schools: How to Pick the One for You
There are SUNY schools in each of the four categories, so only schools within the same category can be directly compared against each other. However, in terms of national prestige and selectivity, Stony Brook and Binghamton are probably the most well-regarded. As you can see by their acceptance rates and average standardized test scores, SUNY schools have varying levels of selectivity, but many of them are roughly equal in terms of selectivity.
National Universities
School Ranking
Binghamton University #83
Stony Brook University #77
University at Buffalo-- SUNY #89
SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry #105
University at Albany--SUNY #182
Stony Brook University
About its location: Stony Brook is in Suffolk County on the North Shore of Long Island. It's about 55 miles east of Manhattan and its population is roughly 14,000. Stony Brook University is one of the largest and most prestigious SUNY schools.
Undergraduate enrollment: 17,999
Graduation rate: 76% graduate within six years
Students living in college housing: 47%
Students Say:
Stony Brook is one of the more academically rigorous SUNY schools. Stony Brook is a large campus and also has one of the larger student bodies of the schools on this list, and has a diverse student body with lots of extracurricular opportunities. Students can easily find a place to fit in here, but many of the students commute and the campus can be quiet on the weekends.
Comparing the SUNY Schools by the Numbers
I've provided the undergraduate enrollment, average standardized test scores, and acceptance rates for the SUNY schools.
School Enrollment Average SAT Average ACT Acceptance Rate
University at Albany 12,654 1180 26 68%
Alfred State College 3,414 1070 22 82%
Binghamton University 14,307 1390 32 44%
SUNY Brockport 5,714 1130 26 76%
Buffalo State College 6,147 1040 19 85%
University at Buffalo 21,467 1270 28 70%
SUNY Canton 2,901 1080 19 95%
SUNY Cobleskill 1,824 1070 19 81%
SUNY Cortland 5,984 1160 24 60%
SUNY Delhi 2,987 970 19 71%
Empire State College 7,926 Unavailable Unavailable 51%
SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry 1,594 1230 26 65%
SUNY Farmingdale 9,284 1100 24 73%
SUNY Fredonia 3,555 1180 27 91%
SUNY Geneseo 4,468 1240 28 74%
SUNY Maritime 1,401 1190 26 74%
Morrisville State College 1,957 1000 22 81%
SUNY New Paltz 6,256 1230 27 46%
SUNY Old Westbury 4,659 1070 21 53%
SUNY Oneonta 5,380 1060 22 70%
SUNY Oswego 6,135 1170 27 78%
SUNY Plattsburgh 4,323 1140 26 68%
SUNY Potsdam 2,352 1140 25 81%
SUNY Purchase 3,446 1220 29 75%
Stony Brook University 17,999 1390 31 48%
SUNY Polytechnic Institute 2,043 1220 27 77%
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SBU students have an average SAT score of 1390? Out of 1600, or am I just not familiar with current SAT scoring system?
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yes- https://bigfuture.collegeboard.org/colleges/suny-university-at-stony-brook/admissions
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SBU students have an average SAT score of 1390? Out of 1600, or am I just not familiar with current SAT scoring system?
The reason the average SAT scores seem so much higher than when we attended is only students who score very high actually submit them. They’re now optional. When I attended any score above 1200 was considered outstanding.
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SBU Receives Highest SUNY Ranking in History
https://www.sbstatesman.com/2023/10/22/sbu-receives-highest-suny-ranking-in-history/
These are impressive leaps from the University’s previous standings at No. 77 among national universities and No. 31 among public universities.
“Stony Brook has long been recognized as a leader supporting the social and economic mobility of our graduates and their families, and the ability to create a dynamic, engaged environment that welcomes ambition has provided us with great forward movement in becoming one of the most prominent public flagship research universities in the nation,” Stony Brook President Maurie McInnis said in a press release.
Students expressed varying reviews regarding the new rankings.
“Although I am happy I go to a school with such a high ranking, I can’t say I agree with it,” Sunukjian said. “It is confusing to me how a school with skyrocketing food pricing for on-campus dining, low mental health rates for students and a ranking of [the] 7th ugliest campus should be considered this high on the list of [ranked] universities.”
“I agree with the ranking Stony Brook has received in terms of their research, as well as the undergraduate and graduate education offered within the STEM sector, as it is a growing industry and Stony Brook has been keeping up with it,” Cruz said. “SBU has mostly been regarded as a STEM school, so in terms of its ratings I would say it is well deserved, according to its successes within the sciences.”
https://www.complex.com/style/a/kathryn-henderson/ugly-college-campuses
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SBU Receives Highest SUNY Ranking in History
https://www.sbstatesman.com/2023/10/22/sbu-receives-highest-suny-ranking-in-history/
These are impressive leaps from the University’s previous standings at No. 77 among national universities and No. 31 among public universities.
“Stony Brook has long been recognized as a leader supporting the social and economic mobility of our graduates and their families, and the ability to create a dynamic, engaged environment that welcomes ambition has provided us with great forward movement in becoming one of the most prominent public flagship research universities in the nation,” Stony Brook President Maurie McInnis said in a press release.
Students expressed varying reviews regarding the new rankings.
“Although I am happy I go to a school with such a high ranking, I can’t say I agree with it,” Sunukjian said. “It is confusing to me how a school with skyrocketing food pricing for on-campus dining, low mental health rates for students and a ranking of [the] 7th ugliest campus should be considered this high on the list of [ranked] universities.”
“I agree with the ranking Stony Brook has received in terms of their research, as well as the undergraduate and graduate education offered within the STEM sector, as it is a growing industry and Stony Brook has been keeping up with it,” Cruz said. “SBU has mostly been regarded as a STEM school, so in terms of its ratings I would say it is well deserved, according to its successes within the sciences.”
https://www.complex.com/style/a/kathryn-henderson/ugly-college-campuses
These lists are so subjective that I consider them irrelevant.
Stony Brook campus is far from ugly. It may not be as homogeneous architecturally as some other campuses. But its far from ugly. And its getting better looking with time
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That list is almost 15 years old at this point, it's pretty misleading for people to still cite it.
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Can an Ambitious Public University Still Be a Place for All Students?
Stony Brook University, one of two state schools designated as flagships, has aggressively fund-raised and recruited students.
https://nyti.ms/48dJun9
Shortly after she became governor of New York, Kathy Hochul made an announcement that caught the higher-education world off guard: The state, which has generally regarded all its public universities as equals, would start treating two universities as “flagships.”
More surprising still, her choices for the elite label didn’t include Binghamton University, which has often been regarded as New York’s top academic public university. Instead, the governor said the distinction would go to Stony Brook University, on Long Island, and the University at Buffalo, in her hometown.
For leaders at Stony Brook, the promotion wasn’t at all a surprise. It was the next step in a yearslong campaign to transform the institution from a well-regarded regional school, where nearly half the students are from Long Island, to a globally renowned research institution, or as administrators like to say, the “Berkeley of the East.”
The flagship designation is only honorary. “It has rhetorical power, more than anything else,” Stony Brook’s president, Maurie McInnis, said in an interview. But in the two years since the announcement, Stony Brook has moved aggressively to live up to its new title, advertising its new status widely to recruit students and donors.
But some observers wonder whether the school’s advancement will come at the cost of equity. They suggest that other schools in the State University of New York system could get short shrift. They also worry that Stony Brook, where 16 percent of students come from families in the bottom fifth of American income levels, could be transformed into a school that is more elite in every sense.
John Friedman, the chair of Brown University’s economics department, who has done extensive research on the role of universities in promoting social mobility, said this kind of drift is all but inevitable: “I do think that making it more selective will make it more difficult to bring in the same number of low-income students as before.”
More than half of students are commuters, and it has never been known for having a robust campus culture. But even in the early days, leaders at both Stony Brook and Buffalo were ambitious.
Still, Stony Brook became known for its success at helping poor students: In 2017, it was ranked the third best in the nation for social mobility, according to metrics designed by Friedman and his colleagues. More than half of its students from low-income households end up in the top fifth of earners nationally after getting their degrees.
Equity has always been “part of Stony Brook’s DNA,” as Ms. McInnis put it. She said the school has often attracted faculty who appreciate its “public service mission.”
United University Professions, the union that represents professors and other employees at SUNY, is concerned that the new flagship designation will lead to the neglect of smaller institutions, like community colleges and technical schools, said Frederick Kowal, the union’s statewide president. He said this has occurred in other states, like California, where public universities are grouped into distinct tiers.
For their part, leaders at Stony Brook and SUNY tend to argue that it’s not a zero-sum game. If Stony Brook can bring in more federal research dollars, it could raise the profile of the SUNY system overall and spur economic development to boot, said John King, the SUNY chancellor.
Prospective students and their parents also seem to be taking note of Stony Brook’s growing stature. For the current academic year, the university received more than 50,000 freshman applications — a 24 percent increase from the year before. The freshman class was also its largest ever, with 3,567 students. (Applications have also risen at other SUNY schools, thanks in part to an application fee waiver the state introduced last year.)
On one hand, the school’s growing popularity is a sign of success. On the other hand, it raises concerns of balancing growth and inclusiveness.
Ms. McInnis said she is focused on immediate concerns. As more money flows in, she said, the first priorities will be hiring more faculty and upgrading the oldest campus facilities. “The next president will love me — and thank me,” she said.
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Stony Brook University: Leading the way in political science education
https://studyinternational.com/news/stony-brook-university-leading-the-way-in-political-science-education/
. Ranked 28th nationally in political science by US News & World Report and housed within Stony Brook University (ranked 58th in the country), this department stands out for its commitment to academic excellence and practical experience embedded in its programmes.
Central to the programme’s success is its faculty, comprising internationally recognised scholars with expertise in political psychology. Led by luminaries such as Professor Leonie Huddy and Professor Gallya Lahav, whose contributions have garnered acclaim within the academic community, faculty members here are actively shaping the discourse in political psychology. Under the guidance of Professor Andrew Delton, the programme director and a prominent figure in political psychology, you can benefit from a wealth of knowledge as you learn to understand quantitative data and how to use cutting-edge statistics programmes to analyse data for yourself.
The best part? You can complete this full-time programme in just one year, with classes held twice weekly, totalling 30 credits. This ensures you’ll have a rigorous experience and a swift transition to the next phase of your career.
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https://www.newsday.com/long-island/education/stony-brook-climate-governors-island-ixnrjinz
New York Climate Exchange: What to know about Stony Brook U.-anchored project
When Stephen Hammer, newly appointed head of the New York Climate Exchange, looks over the site on Governors Island, he can envision its transformation that will take place over the next few years.
It’s a mix of preserving the heritage of the island off southern Manhattan that used to house a military base and building a self-sustaining living laboratory that draws researchers from all over the world and is anchored by Stony Brook University.
Last year, New York City Mayor Eric Adams announced that Stony Brook University had won the two-year competitive process to anchor the climate hub. He said the plan would generate 7,000 permanent green jobs plus 2,200 construction jobs, give a $1 billion boost to the local economy, and reach thousands of K-12, college and graduate students with educational programming.
Hammer, who served as the top climate adviser at the World Bank and was appointed founding CEO of the Climate Exchange, recently led a tour of the site where banners proclaim “The Future Is Here.” It’s scheduled to open in 2028.
WHAT TO KNOW
The New York Climate Exchange on Governors Island will serve as an international center for developing solutions to the global climate crisis and act as a hub for green jobs training.
The campus will include a combination of renovated historic buildings and new construction. The project is anchored by Stony Brook University.
Construction is scheduled to start in 2026. Final engineering and design work is underway. Staff is currently being hired.
What is the goal of the Climate Exchange?
The site will serve as an international center for developing solutions to the global climate crisis and act as a hub for green jobs training.
“The campus is intended to be a living lab to expose the public to climate issues and opportunities,” he said. “So both the building and landscaping will involve the latest sustainability concepts, passersby will be able to observe some of the research underway on the island, and they’ll get to participate in workshops aimed at enhancing their own knowledge on climate issues.”
The campus would generate all energy used there, and include new classrooms, laboratories, research labs, public exhibition space, student and faculty housing and auditorium spaces.
What will it look like?
Governors Island was a military post and later a major command headquarters for the Army from 1794 until 1966, when it was transferred to the Coast Guard, which left in 1996. The state opened the island to the public before handing control to New York City in 2010.
The campus will include a combination of renovated historic buildings and new construction. It will be accessible by a new hybrid-electric ferry going into service this summer.
Faculty will be housed in former military officer housing while students will be housed in former military barracks refashioned as dormitory space. The campus is close to facilities supporting green tech incubation and a nonprofit organization aiming to introduce oysters to New York Harbor.
A former military base theater will be restored to host conferences featuring scientists and policy experts. The campus will include research labs, food service establishments and 4.5 acres of new open space.
“So this is going to be a campus in its entirety. You will have a variety of activities from learning to technology incubation to research to public spaces that the city and people from around the world can come and enjoy,” Hammer said.
How is Stony Brook University involved and what will it mean for Long Island?
Several years ago, the city issued a call for proposals, and a consortium led by Stony Brook University responded with a concept explaining how it would use the site with a strong focus on climate.
“They began to reach out and talk to different groups about who could come together and who was interested in coming together to build something new and completely different,” Hammer said.
Each of the different partners will have access to the research facilities and students will have access to the dormitory spaces.
Hammer said climate issues of interest to Long Islanders such as coastal erosion and flooding will likely be part of the research.
How will it be funded, when will it open and what’s next?
Construction is scheduled to start in 2026. Final engineering and design work is underway. Staff is being hired.
In the meantime, the staff is exploring ways to allow the exchange to host various climate-related meetings, panel discussions and training sessions on the island by late summer.
An event is scheduled for April 12 that will look into the impact the Canadian wildfires had on New York City.
“We are in the process of trying to launch some initial pilot activities,” said Kevin Reed, a professor in Stony Brook’s School of Marine and Atmospheric Sciences who is also interim director of academic, research and commercialization programs for the Climate Exchange.
He said Stony Brook students will be able to eventually take courses and attend workshops on the island.
The city previously allocated $150 million in capital funding to the project. That pairs with a $100 million Simons Foundation donation and $50 million from the philanthropy of former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg.
The consortium — led by Stony Brook and including IBM, Georgia Tech, Duke, the University of Washington, New York University, Oxford University, Rochester Institute of Technology, Pace University and CUNY, among others — must raise the rest of the $700 million development costs and ongoing funding needs.
Part of the funds will go to support art installations reinforcing the campus’ climate theme.
Is there opposition to the project?
Not everyone applauds the development on Governors Island, which attracts nearly a million visitors annually to its open space, waterfront promenades, cultural events and historic buildings.
A group called the Metro Area Governors Island Coalition has challenged what it sees as plans that ruin the island’s “uniquely welcoming openness and expansive parklands quality.”
A lawsuit by opponents of what they consider to be excessive height, density and development on Governors Island was dismissed last year. It was recently appealed and dismissed again, according to court documents.
Some opponents at a recent news conference in Manhattan said they were not against a climate center on the island but expressed concern about what development would follow.
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QS World University Rankings Again Place SBU Among the Best
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/qs-world-university-rankings-again-place-sbu-among-the-best/
The QS World University Rankings — a leading organization for international rankings — rated the world’s top universities by subject area, and once again placed Stony Brook University’s Physics and Astronomy program in the top 100, coming in at #99.
Eight other subjects placed in the top 300 globally: Natural Sciences (#191), Mathematics (#151-200), Geology (#201-240), Geophysics (#201-240), History (#201-230), Biological Sciences (#201-250), Computer Science and Information Systems (#251-300) and Psychology (#251-300).
Academic programs are ranked using five indicators to effectively reflect their performance, taking into account academic reputation, employer reputation and faculty research.
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Money magazine ranks Stony Brook University Hospital #19 on its ‘Best Hospitals of 2024’ list
https://tbrnewsmedia.com/money-magazine-ranks-stony-brook-university-hospital-19-on-its-best-hospitals-of-2024-list/
Out of more than 6,000 hospitals in the country, Stony Brook University Hospital (SBUH) has been ranked number 19 on Money magazine’s prestigious “Best Hospitals of 2024” list. This recognition gave SBUH an “A” ranking for General Practice and underscores Stony Brook’s unwavering commitment to providing the highest level of care to every Long Island resident.
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Stony Brook Medicine Makes Becker’s Healthcare List of Top Places to Work
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/stony-brook-medicine-makes-beckers-healthcare-list-of-top-places-to-work/
Top Chef Triumph: Executive Chef Claims Silver Medal in Culinary Showdown
https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/top-chef-triumph-executive-chef-claims-silver-medal-in-culinary-showdown/