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Title: 2012-13 Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on December 28, 2012, 12:57:36 pm
I was thinking that we have a thread just for discussing rankings, ratings, polls etc.

Seawolves Ranking now:

RPI (CBS): 80
Sagarin: 74
Pomeroy: 103

Newsday Metropoll: 2
NYPost Ranking: 3

I know it's projection, but its exciting just to see us here:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology

Can't imagine how exciting it would be if we make it to the tourney!
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ecasadoSBU on December 28, 2012, 01:08:43 pm
Great addition! Should I make it a sticky?
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on December 28, 2012, 01:56:04 pm
That would be great Ecasado!

Can you also please open another sticky thread (preferably under Hoopps) to discuss Conference realignment, and its trickle down effect on college basketball, movement of other hoops programs, possible America East expansion etc?
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on December 28, 2012, 06:00:16 pm
OBW has us ranked 1 in AE power ranking!

http://www.onebidwonders.com/2012/12/28/america-east-power-rankings-v5/
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on December 31, 2012, 11:37:53 am
Seawolves Ranking now:

RPI (CBS): 76 ↑
Sagarin: 74 --
Pomeroy: 99 ↑

With conference schedule around the corner, probably going to see all three going down. But since AE is a one bid conference, they dont really mean much at this point and winning the AE tournament and reaching the tourney should be our main priority.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Seawolf97 on December 31, 2012, 08:50:03 pm
If we win tomorrow and beat UNH on Saturday we will be 10-4 in the first week of January thats sweet.   Another 20 plus win season coming up ?
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on January 02, 2013, 08:54:35 am
Seawolves Ranking now:

RPI (teamrankings): 90 ↓
Sagarin: 78 ↓
Pomeroy: 95 ↑
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Seawolf97 on January 02, 2013, 11:53:36 am
Thanks Ibo!The Pomeroy rank is a big one for D1 hoops.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 02, 2013, 01:34:32 pm
Newsday metro poll: http://www.newsday.com/sports/college/on-campus-1.812060/metro-poll-stony-brook-2nd-columbia-9th-1.4398168
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on January 02, 2013, 03:11:46 pm
We are getting good press coverages from Newsday!
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on January 02, 2013, 03:13:41 pm
How are Albany at #20 and Bryant at #25 and Stony Brook not in top 25?
http://www.collegeinsider.com/mens-mid-major-top-25.php
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: SaltySeawolf on January 02, 2013, 07:32:37 pm
I believe that is the CIT poll which Will Brown is a voter.  Albany has ponied up big cash to play in the CIT - I dont put much stock in the poll at all.  If we can go a week without losing we are poised to jump into most of the mid-major polls.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Quickdraw62 on January 02, 2013, 08:07:17 pm
Seawolves Ranking now:

RPI (teamrankings): 90 ↓
Sagarin: 78 ↓
Pomeroy: 95 ↑


Since Non-conference is now over, these numbers might be interesting to look back on, as I'd imagine that all will drop after conference play starts.  I look at the same rankings; I'll list in my order:

RealTime RPI (AE conference rank is #24)/Sagarin/Ken Pom
SBU - 91/78/95
UA   - 108/147/183
BU   - 191/103/105
UVM - 178/194/188
UH   - 174/214/223
UM   - 259/288/287
UNH - 289/242/253
Bing - 339/341/344
UMBC- 342/321/320

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_aeast_Men.html


http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkt1213.htm


http://kenpom.com/


Right now, I think you are the slight favorite in the league.  This is pretty interesting also:

http://nycbuckets.com/2013/01/10000-sims-america-east-a-two-horse-race/



Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Seawolf97 on January 02, 2013, 08:18:58 pm
It is good to those those types of numbers. I feel we can put away UNH  this Saturday if we bring our A game.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ry1nik on January 08, 2013, 04:31:26 pm
KenPom has SBU rated ahead of some pretty heavy hitters in college hoops-- Villanova, St. John's, George Mason, Xavier, DePaul....  Let's hope they play up to their billing!
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: SaltySeawolf on January 08, 2013, 07:06:42 pm
Im getting a bit ticked that we are getting no love in any of the mid major polls.  Albany was ranked in the CIT poll until Vermont waxed em.  We should be ranked in some top 25's somewhere.  Think im gonna start sending out some emails to these polls.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ry1nik on January 08, 2013, 07:18:50 pm
Must be the abysmal loss to Sacred Heart....tough to overlook for some.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on January 11, 2013, 02:04:04 pm
Seawolves Ranking now:

RPI (CBS): 103 ↓
Sagarin: 74 ↑
Pomeroy: 82 ↑

Pomeroy ranking looking real good. Again, we have to win AE tournament and go to the dance.. that should be the only goal. Not another NIT!
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ry1nik on January 11, 2013, 02:09:36 pm
This shows that RPI is not a very good rating system. SBU wins convincingly by 25 points and gets downgraded. Yeah, it was over Bingo, but it was still a dominant win over a DI program. Sagarin and Kenpom ratings went up, as they should have.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on January 11, 2013, 02:23:13 pm
agree.. RPI is a useful tool, but not the best rating system. Sagarin and Pomeroy are better indicator, despite their flaws such as not accounting for injured star players, or when a blowout turn into a 5 or 8 point win only because coach sits all the starters for last 10min.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: sbufan on January 11, 2013, 09:38:53 pm
At 82 on KemPom, Stony Brook is the highest rated AE team since the 2005 Vermont team, the one that eliminated Syracuse from NCAAs.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ry1nik on January 12, 2013, 08:09:04 am
Sbufan, do you know what Vermont's actually rating was?
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: sbufan on January 12, 2013, 08:32:32 am
Vermont finished the year at 71st in the KenPom rankings.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ry1nik on January 12, 2013, 09:54:52 am
SBU would be the top rated team in the CAA today if it were a hoops member. Nice thought.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: sbufan on January 13, 2013, 08:56:49 am
KenPom now has Stony Brook at 73rd in country.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Hammertime on January 13, 2013, 09:06:42 am
BPI and RPI both have S/B at  90 and 95 ???? strange.!!
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ry1nik on January 13, 2013, 10:40:24 am
That's why I have little regard for RPI. It's the lazy man's rating system....doesn't account for margin of victory. Expect to see SBU stagnate or even drop in RPI even as they keep winning.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Hammertime on January 13, 2013, 11:26:33 am
Is there a chance SBU could move out of the America East confrence and go to the CAA considering SBU Football is now in?.. Why wouldn't they ?? Is a long term process to be voted in... not quite sure how that entire process works!!!
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ry1nik on January 13, 2013, 02:27:04 pm
There are arguments on both sides, Hammer. SBU has the best chance to get into the NCAA tourney by winning their conference, IF that conference is the AE instead of the CAA. Although the CAA has been a multi-bid conference in the past, it looks like just one bid for them this year.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ecasadoSBU on January 13, 2013, 03:12:36 pm
Lets wait it out and see. Lets get to the NCAA a few times before jumping into the realignment game. If we can get into the NCAA consistently maybe we can join a multi-bid conference. Its's pointless to join the CAA. Its more competitive but you will still be fighting for that same automatic bid...
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on January 13, 2013, 06:49:00 pm
Agree with the last two posts. First we need to get to the tourney, so that others get to know us. Not many people have heard of Stony Brook. I live in Montgomery county in MD and work in Alexandria VA. Most have never heard of Stony Brook. Gettting to the dance a few times will help with our Brand.

I don't see much difference between CAA and AE, either. Both are one bid conferences at the moment. Lets see what happens with the Big East and Catholic 7 and their tricle down effects!
 
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: SOUTHERN GENTLEMAN on January 13, 2013, 07:53:28 pm
Sometimes it's fun to go on the AE Forum and look back at old posts. If you get a chance look at page #145. It has a thread about Pre Season predictions for the 2008 season. Some interesting comments that show how far we have come. We shouldn't take our success for granted. We earned it and should enjoy it.

I also am from down "South",  Howard County,Md. I've gotten used to the trip to Long Island and make it often. 
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: sbufan on January 13, 2013, 09:25:08 pm
Sometimes it's fun to go on the AE Forum and look back at old posts. If you get a chance look at page #145. It has a thread about Pre Season predictions for the 2008 season. Some interesting comments that show how far we have come. We shouldn't take our success for granted. We earned it and should enjoy it.

I also am from down "South",  Howard County,Md. I've gotten used to the trip to Long Island and make it often.

That was great fun Southern Gentlemen. Here's a link for anyone interested in looking that over.

http://www.basketballforum.com/america-east-conference/410795-2008-2009-pre-season-predictions.html
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: SOUTHERN GENTLEMAN on January 13, 2013, 09:39:32 pm
I especially liked the post from our UMBC friend "Ball of Rubber". Sure glad we didn't take his advise and scrap our basketball program just so we could maybe someday compete with their awesome Lax team.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ry1nik on January 14, 2013, 07:31:52 am
SBU is a "disgrace....dead man walking....always terrible..." Thanks So. Gent and sbufan; very entertaining (and true back then)!
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 14, 2013, 08:31:42 am
I read through it last night.  Id say 9/10 put us last, and the few that didnt, had us 8th.  Not the story now!!!
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 14, 2013, 10:23:39 am
Oh and FWIW, when i read the UMBC lax comment last night, here's the last three games (BC won the few before these):

2012: 10-8 SB
2011: 16-5 SB
2010: 14-11 SB
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ecasadoSBU on January 14, 2013, 10:56:27 am
Crazy how the tide has turned on them. Look at UMBC, Binghamton, and Albany... But this serves as a cautionary tale. No one is safe at the top and SBU has to strive to stay there. We need to keep investing, improving facilities, and promoting our brand if we want to stay at the top.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on January 14, 2013, 11:34:42 am
iBO: A bit off topic, but where in Alexandria? That's where I live, and work at Fort Belvoir. My email is ry1nik1@gmail.com if you want to reply there.

I work at the USPTO near old town in Alexandria. I have a long commute to my work from where I live in Rockville!
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on January 14, 2013, 11:37:30 am
Seawolves Ranking now:

RPI (CBS): 93 ↑
Sagarin: 72 ↑
Pomeroy: 73 ↑

All arrows pointing up!! :)
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 14, 2013, 11:41:28 am
Something i love- and perhaps this is because we are in the AEC- when you go to ESPN for the basketball standings, since we are in first place currently, we are the first division 1 team you see.  I love that and im sure it helps for visibility.  Now lets get into that tournament.  GO SB

Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ecasadoSBU on January 14, 2013, 12:01:14 pm
Yeah ESPN has the Conference sorted Alphabetically so we are the first conference and first team you see. LOL
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: SaltySeawolf on January 14, 2013, 01:50:59 pm
Chairman, I can't agree more!  It makes it so easy to look up stats and schedules too.  Huge plus having is be the first team in the board.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on January 14, 2013, 03:45:27 pm

http://www.basketballforum.com/america-east-conference/410795-2008-2009-pre-season-predictions.html
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Wow!!! How far we have come!
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Seawolf97 on January 14, 2013, 09:19:00 pm
I remember those days. Dartmouth came in one Sunday and blew us out by 20 or so.  Now they wont play  us-LOL
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Quickdraw62 on January 15, 2013, 09:44:17 am
Seawolves Ranking now:

RPI (CBS): 93 ↑
Sagarin: 72 ↑
Pomeroy: 73 ↑

All arrows pointing up!! :)

ESPN has their first conference ranking posted, and their calculation (BPI) is pretty interesting in that it takes into account other factors and doesn't rely solely on the computer; worth a read, and the AE is ranked a bit higher than with the Realtime RPI conference rankings:

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/72713/big-ten-sits-atop-conference-rankings
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on January 15, 2013, 01:54:07 pm
http://www.collegeinsider.com/mens-mid-major-top-25.php

We received 46 points and standing at #26. If we get couple of more wins, especially @Vermont, we will surely crack the top 25 next week.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Hammertime on January 15, 2013, 02:57:54 pm
Question for the board. Do any teams in the AE confrence stand a chance to make it to the NCAA tournament or only the NIT. What needs to happen for SB to make the Tournament this year?? Some people say the NIT is more for the "B" teams and the NCAA Tournaments are for the "A" teams..  Do teams from the less known confrences make it into the Tournament ??? Silly question I know but I'm trying to get my facts correct !!
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on January 15, 2013, 03:00:45 pm
Question for the board. Do any teams in the AE confrence stand a chance to make it to the NCAA tournament or only the NIT. What needs to happen for SB to make the Tournament this year?? Some people say the NIT is more for the "B" teams and the NCAA Tournaments are for the "A" teams..  Do teams from the less known confrences make it into the Tournament ??? Silly question I know but I'm trying to get my facts correct !!

Winner of AE tournament goes to NCAA tourney.. seed will be most probably 15 or 16.

No one really cares about the NIT. It just doesnt have the prestige of getting to NCAA tournament. Its a good consolation prize, but will show that we choked in the AE tournament again.

We have to go to the NCAA tourney this year. I cant take Albany fans' taunt anymore over at AE boards that they been to the dance two times and we have yet to go.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ecasadoSBU on January 15, 2013, 03:56:27 pm
Don't take pressure from albany fans. Albany fans wish they were in our position right now. You should check out bigpurplefans.ipbhost.com from time to time. You'll get a good laugh of all the times someone mentions SBU
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Hammertime on January 15, 2013, 04:00:15 pm
Thanks IBOsbu for clearing that up.... Well, don't worry, this year we get to stuff it up the Great Dane"s nostrils !!
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ry1nik on January 16, 2013, 09:48:33 am
Albany (and I believe Vermont) was a #13 seed in the NCAA Tournament six or seven years ago with a 23-9 record. That's possible for us. A win at Vermont would go a long way towards achieving that.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on January 16, 2013, 10:19:13 am
Seawolves Ranking now:

RPI (CBS): 92 ↑
Sagarin: 66 ↑
Pomeroy: 66 ↑

All arrows pointing up, again!!
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ecasadoSBU on January 16, 2013, 11:07:38 am
A long way to go before we talk about NCAAs. Remember that it all comes down to the last three games. You can play perfect from here till march but it won't make a difference come AE tourney time!
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: SaltySeawolf on January 16, 2013, 03:33:21 pm
Getting the 1 seed is crucial also.  Do not want to be a 2 or 3 with albany in the same bracket.  Last thing you want is to play at SEFCU in the tournament against Albany.  No BU for the tournament - so 1 seed would get Binghamton and then probably Maine is Semi or possibly New Hampshire - much easier road then playing umbc or New hampshire then Albany in the semi.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Seawolves09 on January 17, 2013, 02:10:27 pm
Agreed, number one seed is crucial. There is no doubt that the top 3 seeds will be us Albany and Vermont, not in order.  If we slip to second or third, we will be playing Albany at their place in the tournament.  Not good.  Now with all that being said, I think this is by far the most talented team we've ever had.  09-10 was a great team, but we had players who turned it on and off (El Amin) and Bryan, Tommy, Dallis were young.  Last year, good team.  Not great.  Warney makes us great.  Tommy is head and shoulders the MVP of this league, i dont care what anyone says.  We play the toughest m2m defense in the league.  If we don't lose a conference game, which I don't think happens, I think there will be one "oops" game, we will get a 13 seed in the tournament.  That would make us 28-4 and I think we give someone a real scare in the tourney.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Hammertime on January 17, 2013, 02:43:10 pm
I love your Enthusiasm but we must get past Vermont first and Albany second. These guys are very good and have the potential of beating us... lets take one game at a time !!!!
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Hammertime on January 19, 2013, 08:31:06 am
The BPI is showing us at 91... Albany at 157 and vermont at 150.?????????... Could someone more knowledgeable of how these Ranking work care to explain these numbers considering we played terrible last night!!!
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Chrissy D. on January 19, 2013, 12:31:11 pm
 Rankings do not matter if you play in the AE. It's simple win the AE regular season and get a bid to the NIT. Win the AE tourny and get a bid to the NCAA big dance. There is no need to worry about anything else, it's that simple.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Seawolves09 on January 19, 2013, 01:35:19 pm
Well if you're talking seeding then it does matter.  If a middle of the pack team from the America East were to win the Tournament, they would be a lock for 16 seed in the NCAA Tournament.  If a team like Stony Brook were to only lose one conference game and hold a top 100 RPI then they would probably nab a 14 seed.  Playing a 3 seed is a lot different than playing a 1 seed. A 3 seed has lost to a 14 seed fifteen times, a 1 seed has never lost.  Big difference.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Chrissy D. on January 21, 2013, 12:35:10 pm
 I said ranking does not matter, not seeding. My point was the AE is only going to send 1 team to the dance, and it might be in the play-in game.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Seawolves09 on January 22, 2013, 01:26:12 pm
Yes you're perfectly right.  We have to win the AE Tourney, not disputing that. Just pointing out that if we have a better RPI ranking, we would have a much better chance pulling off an upset in the NCAA tourney if we were to get there.  At this point the top AE team is definitely not a lock for the play in game or a 16 seed.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ecasadoSBU on January 22, 2013, 01:42:27 pm
Seawolves09. Why be worried about Seeding in the NCAA Tourney when we haven't even made it to second base (Win AE Tourney)... We all know what happens when  we skip the bases... Forget about seeding, at least for now. Our team has to prove they belong first. We just need to make the tourney. if we make the tourney then we can worry about seeding in future tourneys.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Seawolves09 on January 23, 2013, 01:24:32 am
Obviously we have to win.  Its not like me looking past that will hurt the team in any way.  In general, if any America East team wants to get better than a 16 seed then ranking matters.  I wasn't talking about just Stony Brook, thus why I said if a middle of the pack team wins they will be a 16 seed, but a top 3 team would not necessarily be a lock.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on January 25, 2013, 11:31:32 am
Seawolves Ranking now:

RPI (CBS): 99 ↓
Sagarin: 109 ↓
Pomeroy: 77 ↓
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: laxnation on January 25, 2013, 08:52:19 pm
Seriously who cares about rankings until Stony Brook wins the Conference!
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on January 25, 2013, 09:55:09 pm
Ranking doesn't matter at this stage, but it is fun to keep track of just see where we stand nationally.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on January 30, 2013, 05:33:50 am
Seawolves Ranking now:

RPI:             80 ↑
Sagarin:      99 ↑
Pomeroy:    70 ↑
BPI:             83 ↑

#24   in Mid Major Top 25 by CollegeInsider.com
#1     in Metro Poll by Newsday
#1     in AE Power Ranking by onebidwonders.com

 :)
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ry1nik on January 31, 2013, 02:38:10 pm
The latest CBS Sports bracketology has us still at #14 seed for the Tournament. If we sweep the rest of the conference, or even lose one more game, that might push up up a notch to #13. I'm glad the dreaded 16 seed doesn't seem likely at this point.  And yes, I know....there's still the AE Tournament to win....
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Hammertime on January 31, 2013, 03:00:34 pm
I noticed the 16 bracket box is empty.  Could you tell me why the 16th spot is so bad !!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ry1nik on January 31, 2013, 03:06:09 pm
No team has ever won a game at #16. Being seeded higher also carries with it a bit of "prestige" than can be used for recruiting. A team with a losing record in a weak conference can make the NCAA Tournament as a 16 seed if they win their conference tournament.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ecasadoSBU on January 31, 2013, 04:03:41 pm
What kills me is that even if I wanted to be excited about the RPI and potential seeding... I really can't. I just can't get excited. I've been in the last two championship games (@Boston, @SBU), I know how it feels like to be there, so close but not make it. Until I don't see us past the Championship game I can't think of RPI...

One game at a time. Lets go Seawolves
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ry1nik on January 31, 2013, 07:43:11 pm
OK ecasa...some of us will get excited for you!
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Tml on January 31, 2013, 09:00:58 pm
Make the Tourner first.
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: ecasadoSBU on February 01, 2013, 11:05:20 pm
For those here that care about "Bracketology":

second release of the week pairs #14 Stony Brook against #3 Michigan State

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology


Sparty would kill us...
Title: Re: Ranking Thread
Post by: Hammertime on February 02, 2013, 07:19:49 am
For those here that care about "Bracketology":

second release of the week pairs #14 Stony Brook against #3 Michigan State

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology


Sparty would kill us...

 Come on now ecasado. If we play Michigan State we will come out the winner and 2013 will be another year of "SB SHOCKING THE WORLD"..  I guess I got a little head of my self. Lets get past  UNH today !!!!!!!! LOL..
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 02, 2013, 07:24:25 am
Seeds 14-15 (and winner of 16) all play the top ranked teams. Any of them would probably kill us,.. but it would be the first step towards moving up that NCAA basketball hierarchy. It would be fun, and I bet all the NY media will hype us up  ;D   Imagine, if we upset the top ranked team!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Hammertime on February 02, 2013, 10:23:47 am
Yikes !!!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Hammertime on February 02, 2013, 04:06:51 pm
Anyway we can watch the game today. What about the Game tracker I don't see it for this game..
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: ecasadoSBU on February 02, 2013, 05:30:05 pm
47-43. Not to happy about the way sbu is playing
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Chairman of the Board on February 02, 2013, 09:39:49 pm
You gotta believe.

If sb plays a 1 or 2 seed and let's say it ends up like the md game- close late but lose by a few- then that's somewhat of a victory in my eyes.

And why not?  It did happen against md...  You gotta believe. 

Yeah it never happened before I know. But who better to be the first than this program that has just been across the board on fire?  You gotta believe.

If we don't. Who wil!  Go sb! ;D
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 04, 2013, 11:11:19 am
Seawolves Ranking now:

RPI:             81 ↓
Sagarin:     107 ↓
Pomeroy:    75 ↓
BPI:             91 ↓

Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 04, 2013, 07:46:31 pm
#22 (#24 last week) in Mid Major Top 25 by CollegeInsider.com
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Seawolf97 on February 04, 2013, 08:34:46 pm
As long as we keep winning our stock should go up.
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Chairman of the Board on February 05, 2013, 08:19:38 am
thanks i dug up the link: http://www.collegeinsider.com/mens-mid-major-top-25.php
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: joewillie on February 05, 2013, 09:06:05 am
47-43. Not to happy about the way sbu is playing

I would rarther them go through a lull now than have them lay another egg in the AE Champ game.  They need to get Brenton to the dance this year.   
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: ecasadoSBU on February 05, 2013, 09:15:12 am
Joe: That post is in reference to the UNH game which I posted in the wrong location. I agree with what you say though. At this point I just want a NCAA bid and for that the team has to win those three games in march, dropping a game or two now won't take them out of contention.

I'm learning not to get too high or low on this team on game by game basis.
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: joewillie on February 05, 2013, 09:55:59 am
It's the SB way...they build us us only to lose the "big one."  I'm thinking Mens Lax coming oh so close in the quarters vs UVA a few years ago, the last 2 hoops seasons where they could taste an NCAA bid, and the football team, that lost to Liberty which really messed up their seeding in the tourny.  The Baseball team finally broke through this past year.   Can't wait for the other sports to follow. 
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 05, 2013, 10:49:24 am
I agree with the last few sentiments. I think we were going through a mandatory period of transition, "maturity"?, whatever you wanna call it last few years.

From being the doormat of AE to a contender and then to being so close to the dance but can't pass the final hurdle. I feel the team has finally peaked and matured to pass that final hurdle this year led by TB in his last year, seasoned guards and exciting freshman Warney, the final missing piece.

This March, I feel, we have the complete team at its peak to win those three games in AE tourney to reach the dance, and even has the potential to get an upset win at the NCAA tourney!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Hammertime on February 05, 2013, 11:03:27 am
ibosb......... We will make it to the dance this year and a banner will be hanging from the rafters at pritchard arena!!!!!!. Now, how far are we going to go is all up to our boys and had bad they really want it...!!!!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Chairman of the Board on February 05, 2013, 11:04:35 am
And very soon thereafter to be moved to the new SB Arena!!!

And regarding the news from last week on the partnership with PMI, i read it closely, and to me, it sounded a lot like the SB Arena may one day become the...  Computer Associates Pavilion, for example. 
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 05, 2013, 11:14:42 am
And very soon thereafter to be moved to the new SB Arena!!!

And regarding the news from last week on the partnership with PMI, i read it closely, and to me, it sounded a lot like the SB Arena may one day become the...  Computer Associates Pavilion, for example.

That would be awesome.. CA will be handing out free corporate tickets to their employees..  more attendance and publicity :)
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: ecasadoSBU on February 05, 2013, 11:33:55 am
There is definitely have been a lot of improvement. I remember 2010-11 and early 2011-12 season in which the team used to go into long offensive droughts late in the 2nd half and drop the games. The UNH game last saturday would've probably been a loss two years ago. This team is capable of holding on to leads even when they are not playing their best. That's exciting and that builds confidence. I think that's the major difference of this team and the prior years. They don't give up even if they are losing by a lot and we have seen that in multiple games.

Progress. No Doubt
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 06, 2013, 11:55:17 am
#2 at NYCBuckets.com

http://nycbuckets.com/2013/02/new-york-city-power-poll-february-edition/

I would probably put Rutgers at #2 and us at #3, but even better!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Seawolf97 on February 06, 2013, 09:57:13 pm
If we can knock off Vermont next week that would be 20 wins with two weeks to go in the season. That has never happened before.
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 07, 2013, 02:17:18 pm
Love for Seawolves from John Templon who is one of the voter at ESPN mid-major power ranking although we haven't made it to the ranking. Apparently Stony Brook's Thomas Chen is on the voting panel too!

http://nycbuckets.com/2013/02/still-not-buying-murray-state-as-an-elite-mid-major/

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/75164/mid-major-report-power-rankings-8



Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Hammertime on February 08, 2013, 09:39:59 am
We have a 2 % chance making it to the sweet 16, and 0% chance winning it all. "So there still a chance" LOL Dumb and Dumber came to mind!!

http://www.teamrankings.com/ncb/projections/bracketology/
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: ecasadoSBU on February 08, 2013, 10:02:32 am
we showed up as a 13 seed in those projections Hammertime!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 11, 2013, 10:20:20 am
FYI... Seawolves Ranking now:

RPI:             88 ↓
Sagarin:     112 ↓
Pomeroy:     80 ↓
BPI:            101 ↓

Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Seawolf97 on February 11, 2013, 04:23:49 pm
I figured we would take a hit downward. Its not like we lost Kansas by  5 on the road that was Hartford.
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 14, 2013, 06:26:08 pm
Seawolves Ranking now:

RPI:             92 ↓
Sagarin:     110 ↑
Pomeroy:     79 ↑
BPI:             99 ↑

Big game tomorrow!!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Seawolf97 on February 14, 2013, 08:52:10 pm
A win tomorrow and those numbers should go up.
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: ecasadoSBU on February 16, 2013, 06:08:08 pm
RPI ↑ 86 (Realtime)
RPI ↑ 88 (ESPN)
BPI ↑ 94
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Hammertime on February 17, 2013, 08:20:53 am
I see we're are the projected 14th seed. If we did win out the remaining games would that  change the seeding down to 13 or does not matter at this point?.  It's my understanding, the higher the seed you are, 16 i think is the highest, you would be playing against a number 1 seed opponent obviously decreasing your chances of winning and moving on to the next round. So as of now we are up against a 2nd or 3 rd seed team...

Could someone clear up this confusing NCAA seed Tournament placement !!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Tml on February 17, 2013, 08:45:51 am
At 13 the first round game is against the 4th seed. At 14 it is against the 3rd.  Not sure it makes that much of a difference.
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: GoWolvesGo on February 17, 2013, 09:27:38 am
It is hard to imagine an America East team as a 13 seed and we would certainly have to win out to have any chance of that - we  will probably need to win out to have any chance at a 14 seed. 

Every seed you move up improves your chance of winning, at least a first round game, since the higher your seed the "stronger" a team you are and the "weaker" a team you play in the first round.

    Overall tournament record of #13 seeds:   (29-112)    20.6%

    Overall tournament record of #14 seeds:   (18-112)    13.8%

    Overall tournament record of #15 seeds:    (6-112)     5.1%
   
    Overall tournament record of #16 seeds:    (0-112)     0.0%

Obviously from looking at the statistics the key is avoiding the 16 seed!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: sbugold on February 17, 2013, 09:31:15 am
How about Maryland winning over Dike last night!!  Just think the Seawolves came very, very close to beating these guys this year!!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Hammertime on February 17, 2013, 09:33:09 am
Thanks GoWolvesGo for showing us the percentages. Lets win this out so we do get a chance at the 13th seed !!!!!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Redwyn on February 17, 2013, 10:40:46 am
I see we're are the projected 14th seed. If we did win out the remaining games would that  change the seeding down to 13 or does not matter at this point?.  It's my understanding, the higher the seed you are, 16 i think is the highest, you would be playing against a number 1 seed opponent obviously decreasing your chances of winning and moving on to the next round. So as of now we are up against a 2nd or 3 rd seed team...

Could someone clear up this confusing NCAA seed Tournament placement !!

So in a perfect world, where every regular season champion wins their conference - we'd likely end up as a 14 seed.

However, as we learned last year, that's not the case. It's 100% realistic for us to move up if one of the projected 13 seeds falls. My pick is Bucknell, who seems to have staggered down the stretch.

Just gotta keep our heads down and keep playing at this point. We're projected to be the highest AEC seed since UVM in 2005.
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Hammertime on February 17, 2013, 01:42:29 pm
Thanks redwyn. I have another question. Because BU is exempt from  from winning the conference, and they do have the best record in the AE will that change the remaining teams schedule.I guess what i am asking is, if BU finished #1 and SB finished #2, would SB automatically be #1 because of BU leaving the AE ????
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Seawolf97 on February 17, 2013, 01:47:44 pm
I believe we would be #1 by default. BU  cant compete in the tourney so we would get it.  I  think  if they were to win the regular season title they could get the NIT  bid , but that is a stretch   now.
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: ry1nik on February 19, 2013, 01:30:49 pm
Seawolves back at #24 in midmajor poll....let's hope for good!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: SaltySeawolf on February 19, 2013, 02:03:54 pm
SBU would be the one seed in the AE Tourny but BU would get the automatic NIT bid.
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Seawolf97 on February 19, 2013, 03:03:48 pm
Remembering where  we were in the pre Pikiell era - we have come along baby !
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 19, 2013, 04:55:24 pm
Stony Brook will win the America East and be in the field of 68. This may not seem that bold just by looking at the standings and noticing that the Seawolves currently lead the America East with a 10-2 conference record. But each of the past two seasons SBU has lost in the conference championship game. No such failure this year for Stony Brook who is led by Jameel Warney in scoring at 12 PPG, but the real leader on this team is Tommy Brenton. The 6’5” senior plays power forward/center and is the ultimate glue guy. Brenton averages 8.7 PPG 8.3 RPG and 4.8 APG all while routinely guarding opponents much taller than him.

http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2013/02/19/bracketology-ncaa-teams-in-on-the-bubble-predictions/
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 20, 2013, 06:07:40 am
#1 in Metro Poll

http://www.newsday.com/sports/college/on-campus-1.812060/metro-poll-stony-brook-no-1-njit-9th-liu-4th-1.4675776
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 20, 2013, 06:13:49 am
Seawolves Ranking now:

RPI:             94 ↓
Sagarin:      95 ↑
Pomeroy:    62 ↑
BPI:             94 ↑

Looking good.. now just go and win the three games in March AE tourney!! Go Seawolves
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Hammertime on February 20, 2013, 06:25:40 am
How did we go down in RPI ???
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 20, 2013, 06:31:03 am
Not sure Hammertime, I am puzzled too ??? Perhaps because UMBC is bottom of the RPI ranking.. so playing them hurts our RPI regardless of win/loss!!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Hammertime on February 20, 2013, 06:36:04 am
Yea, It must be but they are still a Div1 school. I could if we play a Div 2. Rankings are useless for us anyways !!!!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 20, 2013, 06:39:34 am
Games against Div2 are not counted when these RPI, Pomeroy etc rankings are done. Only Div1 games matter. But you are right though rankings are useless in a low ranked one bid conference. There is no at large bid in stake here.
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: ry1nik on February 20, 2013, 07:25:41 am
The ratings are not entirely useless. They could mean the difference between having a chance to advance to the second round of the NCAA Tournament or having no chance at all due to seeding.
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 20, 2013, 07:42:42 am
True.. forgot about that. I guess because we have yet to make it to the NCAA tourney.

But ry1nik is right.. right now we are 14th seed playing against 3rd seed arizona (assuming we win AE tourney) according to ESPN bracketology:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

CBS has us against 3rd seed New Mexico:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology

But if we win the AE tourney but our RPI  is much lower, then we would be 15th or 16th seed playing against 2nd or 1st seed where chances of an upset is almost Zero!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: ecasadoSBU on February 20, 2013, 07:44:30 am
yeah umbc has a terrible ranking so playing them kills RPI

RPI = 1/4(winning percentage of your team) + 2/4 (opponent's win percentage) + 1/4 (opponents' opponents win percentage)
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: ry1nik on February 20, 2013, 07:44:48 am
At a #14 seed we have a 1 in 7 chance. Woo hoo!!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 20, 2013, 07:46:55 am
At a #14 seed we have a 1 in 7 chance. Woo hoo!!

 ;D ;D ;D
I will take that!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: ry1nik on February 20, 2013, 07:47:14 am
Ecasado, that's why I don't like RPI. It doesn't take into account that we KILLED UMBC on the court. If you're measuring the "quality" of a team with a rating, you can be sure that margin of victory reflects how good that team is (or isn't). RPI doesn't give a crap.
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 20, 2013, 07:47:55 am
yeah umbc has a terrible ranking so playing them kills RPI

RPI = 1/4(winning percentage of your team) + 2/4 (opponent's win percentage) + 1/4 (opponents' opponents win percentage)

No wonder we went down in RPI
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 20, 2013, 07:51:43 am
Pomeroy takes scoring margin into account without diminishing blowouts... thats why we are so high on Pomeroy ratings.. our last three wins were with large margin.
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 26, 2013, 01:02:17 pm
Stony Brook #19 in Mid Major top 25! Jumped 5 spots up from last week. Go Seawolves!!!

http://www.collegeinsider.com/mens-mid-major-top-25.php

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Also #1 in AE ranking by OBW.

http://www.onebidwonders.com/2013/02/26/america-east-power-rankings-v14/

1. Stony Brook Seawolves (20-6, 12-2 AE, W4)
Previous Ranking: 1st
Results: W 83-39 vs. UMBC, W 69-53 at Maine
Next week: Thursday at BU, Sunday at Albany


Stony Brook still has to win one of its remaining games in order to lock up the NIT autobid as a fall-back, but with a full week to go in the regular season, the Seawolves have locked up their third No. 1 seed in four years. The first two No. 1 seeds ended with disappointment for America East’s Long Island representatives, but something about this year feels different – and admittedly looks different. Ten of Stony Brook’s 12 conference victories have been by double-digits. If Stony Brook runs the table they will be the first AE champion with six losses or fewer since ’05 Vermont. And advanced stats love – I mean LOVE – the Seawolves. KenPom has SBU at No. 58 nationally as of Monday, which seemed a bit high until I saw Kyle Whelliston’s BBState ranking: No. 39. To be clear, if selection committees agreed to use a single ranking, the 58th-best team in the country would get into the NIT without an autobid, and the 39th-best team would be an NCAA at-large selection. We find that overly optimistic, to say the least, but on-balance it’s hard to argue that Stony Brook’s regular season performance shouldn’t be ranked among the very best AE regular season resume’s of recent years.

Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 26, 2013, 01:54:01 pm
Seawolves Ranking now:

RPI:             89 ↑
Sagarin:      88 ↑
Pomeroy:    58 ↑

Looking good! Now we just need to win the AE tourney! Go Seawolves!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 28, 2013, 11:06:19 am
Stony Brook #13 in ESPN Mid-Major Power Rankings for the 1st time!!!

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/77559/mid-major-report-power-rankings-11
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Hammertime on February 28, 2013, 11:41:52 am
Stony Brook #13 in ESPN Mid-Major Power Rankings for the 1st time!!!

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/77559/mid-major-report-power-rankings-11

WOW !!! You gotta love it !!! Is his rankings the same is the BPI. RPI etc.. ?? Could it change who we verse in the Tourney, assuming we get that far !!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Hammertime on February 28, 2013, 12:06:18 pm
CBS Sports has SB at 15th seed .

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 28, 2013, 12:19:48 pm
Stony Brook #13 in ESPN Mid-Major Power Rankings for the 1st time!!!

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/77559/mid-major-report-power-rankings-11

WOW !!! You gotta love it !!! Is his rankings the same is the BPI. RPI etc.. ?? Could it change who we verse in the Tourney, assuming we get that far !!

This ESPN ranking and the other one by College Insider are both Mid-Major rankings with human elements/judgement/perception based on panelists/actual people.. kinda like High-Majors have AP and Coaches Poll...

RPI, Sagarin, Pomeroy (Kenpom) and BPI are computer generated rankings based on elements such as Win, Loss, Strength of Schedule, Home/Away, Margin of Win etc.
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Hammertime on February 28, 2013, 12:33:14 pm
Thank you iBosbu for clearing that up. One more question. What Ranking model is used to determine at the end of the Championships, who gets paired up with who ??
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on February 28, 2013, 01:25:14 pm
Thank you iBosbu for clearing that up. One more question. What Ranking model is used to determine at the end of the Championships, who gets paired up with who ??

I am not too sure with this question. I think I read some where that they take into account mainly RPI and also considers Sagarin and Pomeroy ratings. Lately BPI is also looked at due ESPN holding so much influence in College Sports.

Hope that helps, Hammertime. Someone with more knowledge in seeding can perhaps chip in and clear it for us all.
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Redwyn on February 28, 2013, 05:26:34 pm
Stony Brook #13 in ESPN Mid-Major Power Rankings for the 1st time!!!

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/77559/mid-major-report-power-rankings-11

WOW !!! You gotta love it !!! Is his rankings the same is the BPI. RPI etc.. ?? Could it change who we verse in the Tourney, assuming we get that far !!

No effect - similar to the influence of most rating systems outside the RPI. For the mid/low majors the NCAA committee goes pretty strictly by RPI unless there's a marquee win (so the public might be mildly interested).

I expect a few of the 14's to fall, so we'll likely end there. Maybe 13 if enough upsets happen.

More interested in what's going down in Boston in a couple of hours....
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Hammertime on March 01, 2013, 11:50:07 am
Silly question...  Why is SB only playing 29 games when most other teams play 31 ?????
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 05, 2013, 09:22:30 am

RealTime RPI: 69


This is impressive. We are pulling a Baseball "schocker" type season right now. This is a legit RPI ranking. God please help us get across the AE Tourney. Just three games to win and we can possibly be a 13 seeded team (hypothetical 26-6)
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Hammertime on March 05, 2013, 10:42:53 am
ESPN is still showing us at 72 but regardless, This really is impressive and too bad we lost that bizarre game to Hartford after the storm otherwise, we could be flirting with RPI in the 50's... Imagine that !!!!!!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 05, 2013, 12:36:15 pm
Latest Bracketology match up: #14 SBu vs #3 Michigan State @ Aurburn Hills, Detroit, Michigan. That's a closer game. lol
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Hammertime on March 05, 2013, 01:01:39 pm

I think we can take Michigan state. Look at their last 3 games !!!


http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/127/michigan-state-spartans

Latest Bracketology match up: #14 SBu vs #3 Michigan State @ Aurburn Hills, Detroit, Michigan. That's a closer game. lol
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 05, 2013, 01:04:55 pm
I dont know. but i don't wanna get carried away. I'm trying to put all my energies toward an SBU Ae tourney championship. The more I think about it, the more worried I get. and I'm not even one of the players....
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Hammertime on March 05, 2013, 01:09:58 pm
I completely understand that but, SBB so far can handle Albany. So I think we should get thru game 1 and 2. Lets see who we play in 3 at home! Vermont ????! I think this is the year SBB makes it to the Tourney.
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on March 05, 2013, 01:23:06 pm
I dont know. but i don't wanna get carried away. I'm trying to put all my energies toward an SBU Ae tourney championship. The more I think about it, the more worried I get. and I'm not even one of the players....

Same here... I am not looking at NCAA until we win the AE tourney! That is my personal goal for Seawolves this year. Anything more, is just cherry on the top!
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Seawolf97 on March 05, 2013, 08:47:49 pm
Im with you guys. Win the next three one game at a time. Hey  maybe we face Maine Sunday a little easier than the Danes.  It is tough to beat a conference opponent  three straight.
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: SaltySeawolf on March 05, 2013, 09:52:21 pm
We have knocked Albany out the past two years - so are 8 and 0 against them.  Could show we have their number and it could mean that they are finally due.  Not sure how to take it.
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: GoWolvesGo on March 08, 2013, 04:47:06 pm
New ESPN Bracketology out today and Lunardi still has us as a 14 seed facing Michigan State in Auburn Hills, MI.

He did move us from the East to the South which means we will have to travel a bit farther when we make the Sweet 16!!!

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Title: Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: Hammertime on March 08, 2013, 04:55:48 pm
I like your style of thinking GoWolvesGo....I'm not sure about the sweet 16 but I'll be happy just making it to the 64!!!
Title: Re: 2012-13 Ranking and Bracketology Thread
Post by: iBOsbu on August 15, 2013, 10:30:33 am
As we learned sadly that all these ranking means nothing without AE championship which is the only road to NCAA tourney, but it did help us with a favorable match up in NIT where we won our first post season game against UMass.

here are the final rankings from last season.

RPI: 80
Sagarin: 57
Pomeroy: 55

Not planning to keep up with these rankings these season. The only thing matters are the three games in Albany in AE tourney. Lets go Seawolves.