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Heilbron will soon finish his third year as AD.  Do you think he has generally improved the athletic program at SB?

Absolutely - big improvements!
2 (28.6%)
No way - this program is in decline!
1 (14.3%)
Treading water
4 (57.1%)

Total Members Voted: 7

Voting closed: June 16, 2017, 07:40:14 pm

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Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
« Reply #165 on: March 18, 2021, 05:48:31 pm »
Gonna cut SH some slack for this past year.  Covid put a monkey wrench in things for sure.  But how much did he raise of the projected $100MM in the 4 prior years?   And of the 15 vacancies mentioned, are these new openings that were frozen, or people that left (and the job re-hire was subsequently frozen)?  If the latter, that's not a good tell.

SH and RE will use covid as an excuse.  I would be surprised if they raised 10-15 million. the turnover in his dept is a joke. A revolving door. And the ones I knew left because of the crappy atmosphere in the office and lack of experience managing the dept. They were all nicer than SH and his sr staff. They at least said hello, and most knew your name.

Wow!  So I don't really know anyone in the current regime any more, but from what I heard, the atmosphere was one of fear when Fiore was at the helm.   I heard that most in the dept were relieved when he was canned, and that SH was supposed to be the grand savior.  Sounds to the contrary, based on your assessment.

Fiore was good for SB Athletics, not for SBU. He knew how to raise money and how to hire. When SBU parted ways with Fiore they wanted to get away from his type of personality and go with someone who was more understanding of SB culture. Basically, what I am trying to say is. Fiore was all business and he did what he had to do to get things done. Like a Donald Trump. Unfortunately, in today's new society we now live in. You cant treat people that way anymore. SH is a cupcake and fits SBU's new narrative perfectly. He might not be very good for SB athletics, Just like Biden is not good for our economy, but you get the big picture. It doesn't matter if SB wins or loses in sports anymore. It is all about Cancel Culture today, and SBU fits that bill perfectly..I hope I explained it perfectly to you.
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Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
« Reply #166 on: March 18, 2021, 06:00:53 pm »
Hammertime, May 2020:

"SH is a very smart man. Stony Brook should be honored to have him as their AD."

Hammertime, March 2021:

"SH is a cupcake and fits SBU's new narrative perfectly. He might not be very good for SB athletics...."

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Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
« Reply #167 on: March 18, 2021, 08:08:40 pm »
Hammertime, May 2020:

"SH is a very smart man. Stony Brook should be honored to have him as their AD."

Hammertime, March 2021:

"SH is a cupcake and fits SBU's new narrative perfectly. He might not be very good for SB athletics...."

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What is your point? I gave SH time to prove himself and to advance SB athletic, and he hasn't. Do you never have a change of heart or opinion? I still believe SH is a good AD, but it takes a lot of kissing bottoms to get money out of Cuomo and Albany. And I don't believe SH is that type, therefore, he is not good for SBU... You are one special person for trying to show me up, don't go there, dude.
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Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
« Reply #168 on: April 16, 2021, 07:24:22 am »
https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2021/4/15/together-we-transform-blog-together-we-transform-april-15-2021.aspx

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One year after our spring teams were shut down, the success that we expected in 2020 is playing out in 2021.
 
Baseball: 11-1 record in America East (15-8 overall)
Softball: 5-0 record in America East (18-8 overall)
Women's Lacrosse: Ranked No. 6 in the country with 49-game America East winning streak dating back to 2014
Men's Lacrosse: Ranked No. 17 in the country with a 5-1 record in America East 
Track & Field: Multiple school records broken this spring with several runners in position for NCAA regional opportunities
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Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
« Reply #169 on: April 16, 2021, 02:30:28 pm »
Hammertime, May 2020:

"SH is a very smart man. Stony Brook should be honored to have him as their AD."

Hammertime, March 2021:

"SH is a cupcake and fits SBU's new narrative perfectly. He might not be very good for SB athletics...."

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What is your point? I gave SH time to prove himself and to advance SB athletic, and he hasn't. Do you never have a change of heart or opinion? I still believe SH is a good AD, but it takes a lot of kissing bottoms to get money out of Cuomo and Albany. And I don't believe SH is that type, therefore, he is not good for SBU... You are one special person for trying to show me up, don't go there, dude.

You don't understand the point here. That's okay, carry on.

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« Reply #170 on: May 06, 2021, 07:55:10 pm »
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The campus-wide initiative generated 3,030 gifts totaling more than $370,000 to a multitude of programs. Of all campus departments, Athletics led the way with 331 gifts that brought in $33,000.

https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2021/5/6/together-we-transform-blog-together-we-transform-thursday-may-6-2021.aspx
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« Reply #171 on: May 06, 2021, 09:13:23 pm »
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The campus-wide initiative generated 3,030 gifts totaling more than $370,000 to a multitude of programs. Of all campus departments, Athletics led the way with 331 gifts that brought in $33,000.

https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2021/5/6/together-we-transform-blog-together-we-transform-thursday-may-6-2021.aspx

Getting that much in donations is wonderful, especially seeing how 331 people donated. But that's not even enough to cover one month of Chuck Priore's salary, and that's with him taking a pay cut this year. After a pay cut, SH took in roughly $78,000 less in 2020 than he did in 2019. The donations clearly are not going to fund the athletic department, sadly.

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« Reply #172 on: May 28, 2021, 06:50:02 pm »
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The campus-wide initiative generated 3,030 gifts totaling more than $370,000 to a multitude of programs. Of all campus departments, Athletics led the way with 331 gifts that brought in $33,000.

https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2021/5/6/together-we-transform-blog-together-we-transform-thursday-may-6-2021.aspx

This amount is an embarasement.  SH said he was going to raise $100,000,000 in five years when he came here. I don't think hes raised much more than maybe $5,000,000. His fundraising department at Seawolves United has no idea how to raise money. This is a division one school. Embarrassing. They played football this spring and that was a waste of money. Bad decisions from those guys.
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Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
« Reply #173 on: August 26, 2021, 12:10:10 pm »
https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2021/8/26/stony-brook-on-espn-coming-this-fall-to-seawolves-country.aspx

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STONY BROOK, N.Y. — Already broadcasting all basketball games on the Worldwide Leader in Sports, Stony Brook University Athletics is set to announce its fall broadcast schedule, which includes the first-ever broadcasts of home men's and women's soccer, as well as volleyball, on ESPN platforms.

Starting with the men's soccer season opener on Thursday, August 26, all three fall programs will be featured on ESPN3 and ESPN+ as part of an expanded broadcast schedule through the America East on ESPN.
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« Reply #174 on: December 22, 2021, 08:46:06 pm »
Genuine question, this is NOT an attack on Shawn Heilbron. Why did Stony Brook decide to pass over Matt Larsen and look outside the program for their next AD after the Fiore scandal? Does anyone know? Larsen left SBU for North Dakota State, about 4-5 months after Heilbron was hired, so it's not as though he had already been poached by another school. Larsen walked into an already made situation at NDSU football-wise, with the school winning its fourth national title only mere months after his hiring. But it was his decision to keep the head coach search in-house and has produced four more titles, with the school on the doorstep of number nine. Larsen can clearly bring in money as his department raised over $108,000,000 between 2016-21, and has been able to build or renovate numerous athletic sites around the campus. And before anyone says it's all football, it's not. He's upgrading, or upgraded, everything. New media deals, new donors, new facilities. What happened on Long Island that led him to leave? Please, if anyone knows, I'm truly interested in hearing.

https://gobison.com/staff-directory/matt-larsen/365
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« Reply #175 on: December 22, 2021, 09:01:00 pm »
Genuine question, this is NOT an attack on Shawn Heilbron. Why did Stony Brook decide to pass over Matt Larsen and look outside the program for their next AD after the Fiore scandal? Does anyone know? Larsen left SBU for North Dakota State, about 4-5 months after Heilbron was hired, so it's not as though he had already been poached by another school. Larsen walked into an already made situation at NDSU football-wise, with the school winning its fourth national title only mere months after his hiring. But it was his decision to keep the head coach search in-house and has produced four more titles, with the school on the doorstep of number nine. Larsen can clearly bring in money as his department raised over $108,000,000 between 2016-21, and has been able to build or renovate numerous athletic sites around the campus. And before anyone says it's all football, it's not. He's upgrading, or upgraded, everything. New media deals, new donors, new facilities. What happened on Long Island that led him to leave? Please, if anyone knows, I'm truly interested in hearing.

https://gobison.com/staff-directory/matt-larsen/365
Same here. Wish I knew that answer. Maybe SUNY SB wanted to go in a different direction even back then?? I don’t know. We all know today that SH was all fluff and noting to bring to the table with any substance. He’s done nothing to advance this program to the next level. Maybe that was SN plans all along? Do nothing? I wish I knew!!

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« Reply #176 on: December 22, 2021, 09:16:32 pm »
Matt Larsen is an extremely nice guy, but very quiet type of guy, imo. Fiore was an outgoing, dynamic marketer, who had issues. I think SBU wanted a cleaner version of Fiore. Heilbronn is a very outgoing person, so I think he fit the bill. Larsen was not outgoing enough, imo, and was viewed as a bean counter - this is what I heard. Also, I think he was a Biology major at sbu; don’t think he was viewed as the guy with the appropriate credentials moving forward.  All that said, looks like he’s been a winner at NDSU; NDSU  obviously wanted a $ guy above all else and it’s paid off.
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How old a Seawolf am I? I followed them during their Final 4 DIII hoops run in 1977-78 (they were called the Patriots then)
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« Reply #177 on: December 23, 2021, 01:38:20 am »
Also, I think he was a Biology major at sbu; don’t think he was viewed as the guy with the appropriate credentials moving forward. 

No wonder we're in the position we're in athletically if we think bullsh*t like this should actually matter when it comes to hiring an AD....

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« Reply #178 on: December 23, 2021, 01:56:13 am »
Heilbron was also brought in because he was a "$ guy". I don't know why Larsen is exceeding at the thing Heilbron is failing at.

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« Reply #179 on: December 23, 2021, 06:05:24 am »
Heilbron was also brought in because he was a "$ guy". I don't know why Larsen is exceeding at the thing Heilbron is failing at.

Yes, That I do remember. He's been anything but a fund raiser for this Uiversity.