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Heilbron will soon finish his third year as AD.  Do you think he has generally improved the athletic program at SB?

Absolutely - big improvements!
2 (28.6%)
No way - this program is in decline!
1 (14.3%)
Treading water
4 (57.1%)

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Voting closed: June 16, 2017, 07:40:14 pm

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« Reply #135 on: July 25, 2020, 03:32:31 am »
I'm all in favor of full on cancellation of fall sports including football. Just wear your goddamn masks and hopefully in 2021 we'll be ready to try again.

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« Reply #136 on: July 25, 2020, 05:19:54 am »
I'm all in favor of full on cancellation of fall sports including football. Just wear your goddamn masks and hopefully in 2021 we'll be ready to try again.

What if in 2021, we are in the same position. Cancel sports again? This crap is not going away. We, as a society need to make adjustment and live our lives and move on. A vaccine will most likely be available by the fall of 2021, but how many people will take it. Not me! Does that pose a threat to sports? I say play ball but with no fans, Just like in MLB.

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« Reply #137 on: July 25, 2020, 02:38:43 pm »
I'm all in favor of full on cancellation of fall sports including football. Just wear your goddamn masks and hopefully in 2021 we'll be ready to try again.

What if in 2021, we are in the same position. Cancel sports again? This crap is not going away. We, as a society need to make adjustment and live our lives and move on. A vaccine will most likely be available by the fall of 2021, but how many people will take it. Not me! Does that pose a threat to sports? I say play ball but with no fans, Just like in MLB.

Assuming it works out, the vaccine will be key to containing this. If people continue to wear masks and get the goddamn vaccine (Just take it, not having that debate right now) yes we'll be fine for sports in 2021. Vaccination of athletes will likely be mandatory along with students who intend to come on campus.

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« Reply #138 on: July 25, 2020, 04:20:47 pm »
I'm all in favor of full on cancellation of fall sports including football. Just wear your goddamn masks and hopefully in 2021 we'll be ready to try again.

What if in 2021, we are in the same position. Cancel sports again? This crap is not going away. We, as a society need to make adjustment and live our lives and move on. A vaccine will most likely be available by the fall of 2021, but how many people will take it. Not me! Does that pose a threat to sports? I say play ball but with no fans, Just like in MLB.

Assuming it works out, the vaccine will be key to containing this. If people continue to wear masks and get the goddamn vaccine (Just take it, not having that debate right now) yes we'll be fine for sports in 2021. Vaccination of athletes will likely be mandatory along with students who intend to come on campus.

That's my problem. I will not be forced to be vacainted by a rush job, hurry up drug. I also have a HUGE problem with government control, (socialism)  telling me what to do, when to do it, and how to do it. If that means I cant go into any major sporting event, coliseum, etc..... So be it. I'll watch it on television!

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« Reply #139 on: July 25, 2020, 04:51:33 pm »
I'm all in favor of full on cancellation of fall sports including football. Just wear your goddamn masks and hopefully in 2021 we'll be ready to try again.

What if in 2021, we are in the same position. Cancel sports again? This crap is not going away. We, as a society need to make adjustment and live our lives and move on. A vaccine will most likely be available by the fall of 2021, but how many people will take it. Not me! Does that pose a threat to sports? I say play ball but with no fans, Just like in MLB.

Assuming it works out, the vaccine will be key to containing this. If people continue to wear masks and get the goddamn vaccine (Just take it, not having that debate right now) yes we'll be fine for sports in 2021. Vaccination of athletes will likely be mandatory along with students who intend to come on campus.

That's my problem. I will not be forced to be vacainted by a rush job, hurry up drug. I also have a HUGE problem with government control, (socialism)  telling me what to do, when to do it, and how to do it. If that means I cant go into any major sporting event, coliseum, etc..... So be it. I'll watch it on television!

Not looking to get political at all, but since EVERYTHING is political today, I expect half the country to get the vaccine; half not.  I've heard that we need 50% compliance to achieve herd immunity, so a working vaccine could achieve that.
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« Reply #140 on: July 26, 2020, 07:34:51 am »
I'm all in favor of full on cancellation of fall sports including football. Just wear your goddamn masks and hopefully in 2021 we'll be ready to try again.

What if in 2021, we are in the same position. Cancel sports again? This crap is not going away. We, as a society need to make adjustment and live our lives and move on. A vaccine will most likely be available by the fall of 2021, but how many people will take it. Not me! Does that pose a threat to sports? I say play ball but with no fans, Just like in MLB.

Assuming it works out, the vaccine will be key to containing this. If people continue to wear masks and get the goddamn vaccine (Just take it, not having that debate right now) yes we'll be fine for sports in 2021. Vaccination of athletes will likely be mandatory along with students who intend to come on campus.

That's my problem. I will not be forced to be vacainted by a rush job, hurry up drug. I also have a HUGE problem with government control, (socialism)  telling me what to do, when to do it, and how to do it. If that means I cant go into any major sporting event, coliseum, etc..... So be it. I'll watch it on television!

Not looking to get political at all, but since EVERYTHING is political today, I expect half the country to get the vaccine; half not.  I've heard that we need 50% compliance to achieve herd immunity, so a working vaccine could achieve that.

I agree with half the country wanting the vaccine and the other half not. I got the coronavirus back in March. I didn't even know I had it. I was checked three different times for the IgG antibodies and my numbers all came in very high. As far as I am concerned, I am protected. Now, that doesnt mean I will always have the antibodies, the same way getting the vaccine doesnt guarantee I will always have the antibodies against covid19.

If people are willing to get vacainted against covid19, by all means do it. I just have a major problem with the Goverment telling citizens they must, or its a law to get vacainted. And this is coming from a guy who worked for the Goverment.

Things are going to heat up big time in this country when the vaccine is readily available and the governors start mandating citizens to get vacainted, otherwise you cnt attend any big, social gatherings. Watch and see. That will happen.

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« Reply #141 on: July 26, 2020, 08:07:36 am »
Never has a vaccine been mandated (except for children who want to attend public schools, to protect other children) and never will a COVID vaccine be mandated.However, it is not a constitutional right to attend a sporting event without complying with the organizersí safety requirements...which may include vaccination for entry.
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« Reply #142 on: July 26, 2020, 08:30:51 am »
I'm all in favor of full on cancellation of fall sports including football. Just wear your goddamn masks and hopefully in 2021 we'll be ready to try again.

What if in 2021, we are in the same position. Cancel sports again? This crap is not going away. We, as a society need to make adjustment and live our lives and move on. A vaccine will most likely be available by the fall of 2021, but how many people will take it. Not me! Does that pose a threat to sports? I say play ball but with no fans, Just like in MLB.

Assuming it works out, the vaccine will be key to containing this. If people continue to wear masks and get the goddamn vaccine (Just take it, not having that debate right now) yes we'll be fine for sports in 2021. Vaccination of athletes will likely be mandatory along with students who intend to come on campus.

That's my problem. I will not be forced to be vacainted by a rush job, hurry up drug. I also have a HUGE problem with government control, (socialism)  telling me what to do, when to do it, and how to do it. If that means I cant go into any major sporting event, coliseum, etc..... So be it. I'll watch it on television!

Not looking to get political at all, but since EVERYTHING is political today, I expect half the country to get the vaccine; half not.  I've heard that we need 50% compliance to achieve herd immunity, so a working vaccine could achieve that.

I agree with half the country wanting the vaccine and the other half not. I got the coronavirus back in March. I didn't even know I had it. I was checked three different times for the IgG antibodies and my numbers all came in very high. As far as I am concerned, I am protected. Now, that doesnt mean I will always have the antibodies, the same way getting the vaccine doesnt guarantee I will always have the antibodies against covid19.

If people are willing to get vacainted against covid19, by all means do it. I just have a major problem with the Goverment telling citizens they must, or its a law to get vacainted. And this is coming from a guy who worked for the Goverment.

Things are going to heat up big time in this country when the vaccine is readily available and the governors start mandating citizens to get vacainted, otherwise you cnt attend any big, social gatherings. Watch and see. That will happen.

Glad you didn't get sick, and I don't disagree with anything you've said here.  My concern is not so much the issue of whether it will be mandated or not, but due to the gravity of the situation, I'm concerned that there may be too much pressure to get it out quickly, and potentially to not be sufficiently tested.  That is medically concerning to me.   After all, there is a pot of gold (directly or indirectly) to the company(s) that get it out first.  But I agree with Ry1nik too, public venues will have a right to deny entrance to those that aren't vaccinated, to protect the health of their client base.  The public at large may actually demand this.  It shall be interesting, and of course, will turn into another political football.
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Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
« Reply #143 on: July 26, 2020, 10:05:23 am »
Never has a vaccine been mandated (except for children who want to attend public schools, to protect other children) and never will a COVID vaccine be mandated.However, it is not a constitutional right to attend a sporting event without complying with the organizersí safety requirements...which may include vaccination for entry.

We haven't had a Pandemic like this since the Spnish Flu in 1918, or there about. Not to be political about this but if Biden gets in the WH, I could see the democrats mandating this though..

As far as sporting events showing proof of vaccination before entering, that would be the kiss of death to that organization. If 50% of people oppose vaccination , that's 50% less spectators .

If the Goverment doesnt sign into law that you cant sue people because you think you got the virus from one particular place, then this country is more screwed up then ever before.
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« Reply #144 on: July 26, 2020, 10:11:42 am »
I'm all in favor of full on cancellation of fall sports including football. Just wear your goddamn masks and hopefully in 2021 we'll be ready to try again.

What if in 2021, we are in the same position. Cancel sports again? This crap is not going away. We, as a society need to make adjustment and live our lives and move on. A vaccine will most likely be available by the fall of 2021, but how many people will take it. Not me! Does that pose a threat to sports? I say play ball but with no fans, Just like in MLB.

Assuming it works out, the vaccine will be key to containing this. If people continue to wear masks and get the goddamn vaccine (Just take it, not having that debate right now) yes we'll be fine for sports in 2021. Vaccination of athletes will likely be mandatory along with students who intend to come on campus.

That's my problem. I will not be forced to be vacainted by a rush job, hurry up drug. I also have a HUGE problem with government control, (socialism)  telling me what to do, when to do it, and how to do it. If that means I cant go into any major sporting event, coliseum, etc..... So be it. I'll watch it on television!

Not looking to get political at all, but since EVERYTHING is political today, I expect half the country to get the vaccine; half not.  I've heard that we need 50% compliance to achieve herd immunity, so a working vaccine could achieve that.

I agree with half the country wanting the vaccine and the other half not. I got the coronavirus back in March. I didn't even know I had it. I was checked three different times for the IgG antibodies and my numbers all came in very high. As far as I am concerned, I am protected. Now, that doesnt mean I will always have the antibodies, the same way getting the vaccine doesnt guarantee I will always have the antibodies against covid19.

If people are willing to get vacainted against covid19, by all means do it. I just have a major problem with the Goverment telling citizens they must, or its a law to get vacainted. And this is coming from a guy who worked for the Goverment.

Things are going to heat up big time in this country when the vaccine is readily available and the governors start mandating citizens to get vacainted, otherwise you cnt attend any big, social gatherings. Watch and see. That will happen.

Glad you didn't get sick, and I don't disagree with anything you've said here.  My concern is not so much the issue of whether it will be mandated or not, but due to the gravity of the situation, I'm concerned that there may be too much pressure to get it out quickly, and potentially to not be sufficiently tested.  That is medically concerning to me.   After all, there is a pot of gold (directly or indirectly) to the company(s) that get it out first.  But I agree with Ry1nik too, public venues will have a right to deny entrance to those that aren't vaccinated, to protect the health of their client base.  The public at large may actually demand this.  It shall be interesting, and of course, will turn into another political football.

Thats why I wont get the vaccine. I have concerns of it's efficacy and safety. There could be more harm done to people then getting the virus. I also think the Goverment signed into law waiving any lawsuits against Bio and Pharma  companies because of this pandemic.

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« Reply #145 on: July 26, 2020, 08:50:50 pm »
members- just wanted to say how great it is that we can have a reasoned, respectful discussion here, unlike so many other online forums.  without crossing the line into the inappropriate.  as a result, we will continue to let spirited discussion and disagreement thrive on this topic in this thread.

please continue to do so.  we have a chance here to be above the fray and set the example for civil discourse- the example that our most storied institutions (lawmakers, cabinet, media, etc.) fail to grasp.  well done my fellow SB fans.

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« Reply #146 on: July 27, 2020, 05:33:29 am »
members- just wanted to say how great it is that we can have a reasoned, respectful discussion here, unlike so many other online forums.  without crossing the line into the inappropriate.  as a result, we will continue to let spirited discussion and disagreement thrive on this topic in this thread.

please continue to do so.  we have a chance here to be above the fray and set the example for civil discourse- the example that our most storied institutions (lawmakers, cabinet, media, etc.) fail to grasp.  well done my fellow SB fans.

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LOL, excuse my ignorance but was that sarcasm or genuine...
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« Reply #147 on: July 27, 2020, 09:21:34 am »
serious.
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« Reply #148 on: September 10, 2020, 05:43:12 pm »
https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2020/9/10/together-we-transform-blog-together-we-transform-thursday-sept-10-2020.aspx

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Basketball season was originally slated to begin with games on Nov. 10, but is likely to move to Nov. 25 based upon a joint recommendation from the NCAA committees that oversee men's and women's basketball. The rationale makes sense. Most campuses are scheduled to clear out at Thanksgiving, so disruption for basketball teams will be limited.

As for football, the CAA soon will finalize a schedule for the spring. We do know that the regular season will end on April 17, with selections for the FCS playoffs taking place the following day. The team has been working hard and looking forward to "fall ball" in October.

The spring season, which will be limited to a maximum of eight regular-season games, is going to be a springboard for the fall.
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« Reply #149 on: September 10, 2020, 06:10:40 pm »
https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2020/9/10/together-we-transform-blog-together-we-transform-thursday-sept-10-2020.aspx

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Basketball season was originally slated to begin with games on Nov. 10, but is likely to move to Nov. 25 based upon a joint recommendation from the NCAA committees that oversee men's and women's basketball. The rationale makes sense. Most campuses are scheduled to clear out at Thanksgiving, so disruption for basketball teams will be limited.

As for football, the CAA soon will finalize a schedule for the spring. We do know that the regular season will end on April 17, with selections for the FCS playoffs taking place the following day. The team has been working hard and looking forward to "fall ball" in October.

The spring season, which will be limited to a maximum of eight regular-season games, is going to be a springboard for the fall.

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