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Heilbron will soon finish his third year as AD.  Do you think he has generally improved the athletic program at SB?

Absolutely - big improvements!
2 (28.6%)
No way - this program is in decline!
1 (14.3%)
Treading water
4 (57.1%)

Total Members Voted: 7

Voting closed: June 16, 2017, 07:40:14 pm

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« Reply #105 on: April 16, 2020, 03:06:28 pm »
ď I had an extremely positive call with incoming president Maurie McInnis on Friday. Her thorough knowledge and deep appreciation of Division I athletics aligns well with our vision.Ē

Alright, Shawn, youíre saying the things I want you to say. But I want it in action! Sounds like the new president backs ascension but itís still too early to tell.

https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2020/4/16/together-we-transform-blog-together-we-transform-april-16-2020.aspx

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« Reply #108 on: May 31, 2020, 10:48:04 pm »
https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2020/5/31/general-amessage-to-the-stony-brook-athletics-family-from-ad-shawn-heilbron.aspx

SH is a very smart man. Stony Brook should be honored to have him as their AD.

I largely agree. The day will come though when someone prominent buys him away from us. Likely a prominent Pac-12 program. He's a west coast guy at heart. Though he may have been here long enough that that's changed by now. I don't know.

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« Reply #109 on: June 01, 2020, 08:38:37 am »
that or texas.  lot's of universities, and they do like revenue sports down there!

(and he is a texan)
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« Reply #110 on: June 01, 2020, 12:59:45 pm »
SH seems like a good guy, and overall I think heís incrementally helped SBU athletics programs. Also, I think heís added integrity to the athletics dept, which the last guy lacked.

That said, donít be surprised if he gets poached and/or is looking elsewhere. New President may very well want her own team on board, including the AD position.
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« Reply #111 on: June 01, 2020, 02:59:11 pm »
SH seems like a good guy, and overall I think heís incrementally helped SBU athletics programs. Also, I think heís added integrity to the athletics dept, which the last guy lacked.

That said, donít be surprised if he gets poached and/or is looking elsewhere. New President may very well want her own team on board, including the AD position.

And if she did that it would be her first big mistake as SB President. I could see SH bailing for a higher paying job elsewhere though.

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« Reply #112 on: June 02, 2020, 09:55:56 am »
SH seems like a good guy, and overall I think heís incrementally helped SBU athletics programs. Also, I think heís added integrity to the athletics dept, which the last guy lacked.

That said, donít be surprised if he gets poached and/or is looking elsewhere. New President may very well want her own team on board, including the AD position.

And if she did that it would be her first big mistake as SB President. I could see SH bailing for a higher paying job elsewhere though.

I agree. If she did that she'd be hella stupid, but I don't think that's what happens. I think instead of building SBU up from the level we're currently at athletically, Shawn sees an easier, better job at a stronger school and takes it. At least there he won't have to deal with stupid NYS bull**** state politics when it comes to funding. With all the shutdowns and the economic collapse, it'll be very hard to get SBU the money it needs earmarked for moving up. I wish we were able to take advantage of the situation 6-7 years ago and expand the stadium to 15k then.

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« Reply #113 on: June 02, 2020, 10:07:36 am »
The huge economic loss the state is experiencing from COVID would have been enough to drive down funding for higher education over the next few budget years. Add to that the costs associated with the protests and riots. A stadium (or any facilities) expansion is out of the question at this point.

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« Reply #114 on: June 02, 2020, 01:58:20 pm »
SH seems like a good guy, and overall I think heís incrementally helped SBU athletics programs. Also, I think heís added integrity to the athletics dept, which the last guy lacked.

That said, donít be surprised if he gets poached and/or is looking elsewhere. New President may very well want her own team on board, including the AD position.

And if she did that it would be her first big mistake as SB President. I could see SH bailing for a higher paying job elsewhere though.

I agree. If she did that she'd be hella stupid, but I don't think that's what happens. I think instead of building SBU up from the level we're currently at athletically, Shawn sees an easier, better job at a stronger school and takes it. At least there he won't have to deal with stupid NYS bull**** state politics when it comes to funding. With all the shutdowns and the economic collapse, it'll be very hard to get SBU the money it needs earmarked for moving up. I wish we were able to take advantage of the situation 6-7 years ago and expand the stadium to 15k then.

I agree. The economic collapse will take a decade or more to balance out again. SBU was having money issues before this COVID issue was even around. Monies earmarked for athletics are over on the state level. Private donations are the only way to fund college sports as we know it.

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« Reply #115 on: June 02, 2020, 02:19:23 pm »
Cuomo really should have approved the stadium expansion when he had the chance! ****! Iíll never forgive him.
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« Reply #116 on: June 02, 2020, 04:42:41 pm »
Cuomo really should have approved the stadium expansion when he had the chance! ****! Iíll never forgive him.

As much as I would like to have seen LaValle stadium double in size, it would be a waste. SB cant even sell out Homecoming games. What makes you think they can fill up a 20k seat stadium. Forget it. It's not even worth talking about anymore.
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« Reply #117 on: June 02, 2020, 06:53:42 pm »
the money should have been spent enhancing student life

then, we can fill our existing stadium
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« Reply #118 on: June 03, 2020, 05:05:01 pm »
We can talk about should haves and would haves all day long. Given the way things work in this state, if you get the chance to upgrade your stadium you have to take it. Who knows when the next time we'll get the chance to do that will be? FBS requires at least 15k, and ideally you want to have some room to grow beyond that. We're a long ways away from that 25k rendering from a few years back, but when you get the chance to do something you have to take advantage of it. UB and UA are scared we'll lap them completely if we get a bigger stadium and go FBS. We already have several advantages due to our location alone.

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« Reply #119 on: June 03, 2020, 05:11:32 pm »
We can talk about should haves and would haves all day long. Given the way things work in this state, if you get the chance to upgrade your stadium you have to take it. Who knows when the next time we'll get the chance to do that will be? FBS requires at least 15k, and ideally you want to have some room to grow beyond that. We're a long ways away from that 25k rendering from a few years back, but when you get the chance to do something you have to take advantage of it. UB and UA are scared we'll lap them completely if we get a bigger stadium and go FBS. We already have several advantages due to our location alone.

SB couldn't fill all the existing seats in the past. Do you really think if LaValle stadium had 25,000 seats, at will fill up, even if they were in an FBS conference?