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Heilbron will soon finish his third year as AD.  Do you think he has generally improved the athletic program at SB?

Absolutely - big improvements!
2 (28.6%)
No way - this program is in decline!
1 (14.3%)
Treading water
4 (57.1%)

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Voting closed: June 16, 2017, 07:40:14 pm

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« Reply #75 on: July 22, 2019, 06:02:56 am »
JMU is good but they cant touch our academic profile .  The best they got is graduating  Master's Degree students.  SBU is an AAU Member with  the ability to graduate  MD's as well as PHD's  in multiple disciplines.  It is more than football  to move up .

Exactly this. The academics matter more than the sports. You can build a sports program fairly easily, especially if you're FBS playing high profile teams. It's much harder to build up the academic side of the house. Most people don't understand most of realignment comes down to academics. This puts SBU in a great position going forward to move up to a better conference.

Of course when Heilbron talks about "ambitions" in this case, he could also mean something like an NCAA tournament Sweet 16 appearance or FCS national title (lmao yeah right  :D ).

I want nothing more to see SB make that move up to FBS before I leave this state. But, I don't see it happening. One look at UMASS, UCONN, and that's enough for SB to not fall into that trap.

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« Reply #76 on: July 22, 2019, 07:27:21 am »
JMU is good but they cant touch our academic profile .  The best they got is graduating  Master's Degree students.  SBU is an AAU Member with  the ability to graduate  MD's as well as PHD's  in multiple disciplines.  It is more than football  to move up .

Exactly this. The academics matter more than the sports. You can build a sports program fairly easily, especially if you're FBS playing high profile teams. It's much harder to build up the academic side of the house. Most people don't understand most of realignment comes down to academics. This puts SBU in a great position going forward to move up to a better conference.

Of course when Heilbron talks about "ambitions" in this case, he could also mean something like an NCAA tournament Sweet 16 appearance or FCS national title (lmao yeah right  :D ).

I want nothing more to see SB make that move up to FBS before I leave this state. But, I don't see it happening. One look at UMASS, UCONN, and that's enough for SB to not fall into that trap.

UMass decided to turn down the MAC in order to stay in the A10. Their football struggles as a result, however if you look at their games they're quite competitive, coming close to some big wins. I'd love to see them make a bowl.

Uconn has been awful these past few years. However less than a decade ago they were doing fairly well in the Football Big East and made a BCS bowl. They've just made some bad coaching hires. I'd love to see them do well as an independent too. If they can play a more regional schedule and get some fans in the seats that would be good for them. Northeast football is the strongest it has been in a long time. Buffalo, Army, Syracuse, and Penn St. were all ranked last year at one point or another, and Temple has turned themselves around from being the laughing stock of the FBS to a good program. Things really aren't so bad up here.

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« Reply #77 on: July 25, 2019, 02:08:08 pm »
first release of the 20th anniversary team (looks pretty good): https://stonybrookathletics.com/sports/2019/7/25/parts-of-20th-anniversary-team.aspx
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« Reply #78 on: July 27, 2019, 10:53:57 am »
the new let's make history initiative:

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Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
« Reply #80 on: August 22, 2019, 04:26:21 pm »
https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2019/8/22/together-we-transform-blog-together-we-transform-august-22-2019.aspx?path=blog

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My message was centered on raising the bar. Last year was successful, but it's in the past and we shouldn't be satisfied. We only won six regular season conference championships but only three tournament titles.
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« Reply #83 on: September 20, 2019, 04:35:29 pm »
another step towards the gold standard: https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2019/9/20/general-stony-brook-athletics-adds-training-table-to-benefit-student-athlete-nutrition.aspx

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STONY BROOK, N.Y. – On Monday of this week, Stony Brook student-athletes were presented with a new competitive edge in performance nutrition with the introduction of the Seawolves training table.
 
The training table, located in Wolves Den of Island Federal Arena, is open Monday thru Thursday from 5 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. and is part of the meal plan for the student-athletes. It features a menu that allows the student-athletes to have meals that include high quality nutrient-rich foods.
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Re: Shawn Heilbron / TWT
« Reply #85 on: October 14, 2019, 09:07:03 pm »
https://buffalonews.com/2019/10/11/ub-athletic-salaries-suny-binghamton-stony-brook-albany-mac/

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UB’s athletic department in the 2017-18 fiscal year dedicated 36.9% of its expenses, totaling more than $15 million, to coaches and staff, according to a USA Today database. Five years earlier, that figure was 29.6%.

It’s the highest percentage of athletic department expenses devoted to salaries among the four Division I State University of New York athletic programs, ahead of Binghamton (31.3%), Albany (29.9%) and Stony Brook (25.1%).
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« Reply #86 on: October 14, 2019, 09:07:54 pm »
https://www.sportsvideo.org/2019/10/14/espn-embraces-automated-production-for-coverage-of-american-east-on-digital-platforms/

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ESPN Embraces Automated Production for Coverage of America East on Digital Platforms

The most recent advance is the use of two automated production systems from Automatic TV, a Mediapro company, and Pixellot to cover America East sports at seven venues on four university campuses: Massachusetts, Vermont, Stony Brook, and Hartford, CT. The sports covered initially will include soccer, field hockey, lacrosse, and volleyball.

The University of Hartford and Stony Brook University will each have two systems: one for an indoor venue and one for an outdoor venue.

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« Reply #87 on: October 15, 2019, 07:29:03 am »
From the article:

UB’s 11 head coaches will earn a combined base salary total of $1,650,370, which is 10.9% of its athletic department salaries and ranks third in total base salary among the SUNY schools. Stony Brook's 13 head coaches will make $2,092,868. As is the case at UB with Victoria Mitchell, it is common in track for coaches to lead both the men's and women's teams in indoor and outdoor and the men's and women's cross country teams.

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This is unsurprising. It highlights our very favorable financial position vs. the other SUNYs. There's no question that out vertical is far higher, but we all knew that. It also puts a lot of pressure on us to generate return on that investment.

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« Reply #88 on: October 15, 2019, 07:38:18 am »
From the article:

UB’s 11 head coaches will earn a combined base salary total of $1,650,370, which is 10.9% of its athletic department salaries and ranks third in total base salary among the SUNY schools. Stony Brook's 13 head coaches will make $2,092,868. As is the case at UB with Victoria Mitchell, it is common in track for coaches to lead both the men's and women's teams in indoor and outdoor and the men's and women's cross country teams.

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This is unsurprising. It highlights our very favorable financial position vs. the other SUNYs. There's no question that out vertical is far higher, but we all knew that. It also puts a lot of pressure on us to generate return on that investment.

Let's hope that this continues under the new (or to-be-named) President.  It all starts at the top, and without that firm backing, could always change.
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« Reply #89 on: October 15, 2019, 05:03:36 pm »
From the article:

UB’s 11 head coaches will earn a combined base salary total of $1,650,370, which is 10.9% of its athletic department salaries and ranks third in total base salary among the SUNY schools. Stony Brook's 13 head coaches will make $2,092,868. As is the case at UB with Victoria Mitchell, it is common in track for coaches to lead both the men's and women's teams in indoor and outdoor and the men's and women's cross country teams.

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This is unsurprising. It highlights our very favorable financial position vs. the other SUNYs. There's no question that out vertical is far higher, but we all knew that. It also puts a lot of pressure on us to generate return on that investment.

Not be a debbie downer, but there's a significant difference in cost of living between Long Island and Buffalo. Once you adjust for that, I suspect UB is paying their coaches significantly more than we are. Of course, there's something to be said for having so much wealth and affluence near your campus, something Buffalo can't lay claim to.