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Heilbron will soon finish his third year as AD.  Do you think he has generally improved the athletic program at SB?

Absolutely - big improvements!
2 (28.6%)
No way - this program is in decline!
1 (14.3%)
Treading water
4 (57.1%)

Total Members Voted: 7

Voting closed: June 16, 2017, 07:40:14 pm

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Tml

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« on: March 18, 2017, 07:40:14 pm »
I though this would be an interesting question for SB fans to answer. 

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Re: Shawn Heilbron
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2017, 09:50:07 pm »
I know it's only been only two or three years for the women's bb coach, but when does she get the hook for finishing 2nd to last in the worst conference in women's bb?

Also, where all these championships that AD promised the Stony Brook family?

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Re: Shawn Heilbron
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2017, 05:19:23 am »
Which team in which sport is performing better since Heilbron go the job?  Certainly, not WBB, which is your point, though to be fair to McCombs she recruited then lost Ogechi, who was like Warney.  Not Baseball or MBB or Football.  WLAX maybe?

So what are Heilbron's accomplishments since his arrival?  It's a serious question.  I'd really like to know.
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Re: Shawn Heilbron
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2017, 06:12:00 am »
I know it's only been only two or three years for the women's bb coach, but when does she get the hook for finishing 2nd to last in the worst conference in women's bb?

Also, where all these championships that AD promised the Stony Brook family?

You're being too hard on the AD, coaches, players, janitors, cooks, security, AE conference,.... Lax.. Some people on here get insulted if you have an opinion. What you need to do is say that SB athletics is doing great!, we're improving and getting better every year!! WBB is doing great!!!!!!!! Pat the coaches on the back and say, "tomorrow is another day". Then give them a safe space to sit and talk. Oh, the thousands of dollars that you donate to SB athletics, who cares. Nobody really cares about that and they dont need your money anyways..I'm finished ranting.
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Re: Shawn Heilbron
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2017, 03:58:37 pm »
I think he's been neutral as far as on the court performance goes. Most of that rests on the individual coaches. Piekiel had SB basketball trending up and Priore FB trending down independent of what SH has done. I think he's increased awareness and visibility of SB athletics and projects like the pool being finished and Lavalle stadium having the north end-zone be expanded are good things to happen under his tenure so far.

I think he's got us going in the right direction though based on how I hear fans of other schools talk about our athletic department. I hear the term "aggressive" being used often which is good to hear, especially in the wake of the leadership of schools like Idaho (dropping to FCS) and JMU (declining a Sun Belt invite).

President Stanley seeing the value in athletics is extremely important as well and cannot be understated as the struggles of other schools can in part be tied to inept leadership at the university level. The snobby mentality of "we're too good for athletics" is toxic for the growth of an athletic department (Tulane for instance would still be in the SEC today for instance had they not made the boneheaded decision to de-emphasize athletics in the 60's). We should thank our lucky stars Stanley isn't like that.

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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2017, 10:55:29 am »
Like him or not, and reason for his dismissal aside, my view is that Fiore's regime was a major contributor to where the program has come.  He was a visionary and a vocal cheerleader for the University, that got SBU a lot of press.  For example, his touting the University during its College World Series run was superb, IMO, even if he was rambunctious and flamboyant (and some may even say, self-serving).  Heilbron seems much lower key and much less visible outside of the University.  This may have been needed initially, after the Fiore dismissal, but I think he needs to sell the brand more, and certainly become more visible externally.  I mean, except for the athletes, the donors and the AD fraternity, who even knows his name?

He definitely made a bold pick with Boals as MBB coach, but after 1 season, I think it was the right move and a good one.  If his main emphasis is the football team, however, then he needs to make a coaching change, since I think Priore is definitely not the way to go moving forward.

I gave it a Treading Water, although I would have stated the option as "hasn't helped the program, hasn't hurt the program much".
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Re: Shawn Heilbron
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2017, 05:02:17 pm »
Like him or not, and reason for his dismissal aside, my view is that Fiore's regime was a major contributor to where the program has come.  He was a visionary and a vocal cheerleader for the University, that got SBU a lot of press.  For example, his touting the University during its College World Series run was superb, IMO, even if he was rambunctious and flamboyant (and some may even say, self-serving).  Heilbron seems much lower key and much less visible outside of the University.  This may have been needed initially, after the Fiore dismissal, but I think he needs to sell the brand more, and certainly become more visible externally.  I mean, except for the athletes, the donors and the AD fraternity, who even knows his name?

He definitely made a bold pick with Boals as MBB coach, but after 1 season, I think it was the right move and a good one.  If his main emphasis is the football team, however, then he needs to make a coaching change, since I think Priore is definitely not the way to go moving forward.

I gave it a Treading Water, although I would have stated the option as "hasn't helped the program, hasn't hurt the program much".

I like Heilbron and believe he is trying his hardest to raise money for athletics. We all knew that would be a tough task to accomplish, but he is trying very hard.. I dont like how he is not giving coach P the boot, considering SH claims to be a football first AD and wants to turn SB into a  powerhouse. First things first. Fire the HC and regroup..

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Re: Shawn Heilbron
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2017, 06:40:35 pm »
I'm happy with what Shawn has been doing here. He's done a good job fundraising which is probably Job #1, 2, and 3 here. The football stuff does have to get better- if the football team underachieves yet again, he's going to have to make some tough moves. He has helped continue explosive growth of women's lacrosse. The men's lacrosse team has been OK- it should be better. Women's basketball hasn't made much progress to be honest. Baseball has been solid and it will stay that way with Coach Senk. I can't comment on the other sports with any knowledge but I know he's made moves in volleyball as well.

Men's lacrosse and women's basketball are the two places that the program could and should improve.

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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2017, 11:41:21 am »
  Good move on her part . Wish her the best she did a fine job at SBU . And yes  I voted for our present AD I think he is moving us along well as can be expected .  See how his 2000 new seats in the football stadium fill up in September .