Seawolves Fans

bravo, gentlemen, for taking a massively important topic head-on.

in a nutshell, i think mike is right to say the students dont care, and the athletics program is clearly not broken. 

also great points on how our athletics have not brought on the bad that comes with success.  like UNC making phony courses.

i keep coming back to the same conclusion.  we just need a different type of student, and, we can do that without sacrificing student quality. 

this is very damaging to the university and the clock is running and we are losing ground to rivals.  simply put, athletics raises the profile of a school and brings in more applications and better students and more alums back on campus and donating $$$.  if we dont fix this, we lose.

it felt like there's more to discuss here- can you have mike on again to talk more about this topic?  ethan tam please?

bravo, gentlemen, for taking a massively important topic head-on.

in a nutshell, i think mike is right to say the students dont care, and the athletics program is clearly not broken. 

also great points on how our athletics have not brought on the bad that comes with success.  like UNC making phony courses.

i keep coming back to the same conclusion.  we just need a different type of student, and, we can do that without sacrificing student quality. 

this is very damaging to the university and the clock is running and we are losing ground to rivals.  simply put, athletics raises the profile of a school and brings in more applications and better students and more alums back on campus and donating $$$.  if we dont fix this, we lose.

it felt like there's more to discuss here- can you have mike on again to talk more about this topic?  ethan tam please?

While I agree with much of what has been said on this (aka student apathy), I don't think that the athletics program is broken, but I do think they have culpability.  And it starts and it always starts at the top.  I think we need a Fiore-like AD cheerleader (an ethical one, mind you) at the top along with a Presidential Cheerleader. Also, you can't blame it entirely on student apathy, when you have 3MM people on Long Island, 1/2 of which live in Suffolk (1.5MM potential fans vs. 25K student fans; hmm, I know where I'd spend my efforts).  We're the only D1 program in Suffolk, and the athletics department needs to capture that market not only in recruiting but in fan attendance.  Create the buzz, and they will come.  Win, and they will come.  We definitely had the beginnings of this with Fiore, until he was rightly dismissed on various allegations, and then Covid followed suit.  You need to dedicate a portion of your staff to cultivating a fan base, and make part of their earnings conditional on it.   I know we're a public university, but if you privatize earnings to staff (and not just coaches) based on attendance and wins, you will inevitably see better results.  Stick with the state worker union mentality, and we'll continue to see attendance mediocrity.  Just my 2 cents.

Quote from: Chairman of the Board on April 18, 2022, 01:32:49 pm

bravo, gentlemen, for taking a massively important topic head-on.

in a nutshell, i think mike is right to say the students dont care, and the athletics program is clearly not broken. 

also great points on how our athletics have not brought on the bad that comes with success.  like UNC making phony courses.

i keep coming back to the same conclusion.  we just need a different type of student, and, we can do that without sacrificing student quality. 

this is very damaging to the university and the clock is running and we are losing ground to rivals.  simply put, athletics raises the profile of a school and brings in more applications and better students and more alums back on campus and donating $$$.  if we dont fix this, we lose.

it felt like there's more to discuss here- can you have mike on again to talk more about this topic?  ethan tam please?

While I agree with much of what has been said on this (aka student apathy), I don't think that the athletics program is broken, but I do think they have culpability.  And it starts and it always starts at the top.  I think we need a Fiore-like AD cheerleader (an ethical one, mind you) at the top along with a Presidential Cheerleader. Also, you can't blame it entirely on student apathy, when you have 3MM people on Long Island, 1/2 of which live in Suffolk (1.5MM potential fans vs. 25K student fans; hmm, I know where I'd spend my efforts).  We're the only D1 program in Suffolk, and the athletics department needs to capture that market not only in recruiting but in fan attendance.  Create the buzz, and they will come.  Win, and they will come.  We definitely had the beginnings of this with Fiore, until he was rightly dismissed on various allegations, and then Covid followed suit.  You need to dedicate a portion of your staff to cultivating a fan base, and make part of their earnings conditional on it.   I know we're a public university, but if you privatize earnings to staff (and not just coaches) based on attendance and wins, you will inevitably see better results.  Stick with the state worker union mentality, and we'll continue to see attendance mediocrity.  Just my 2 cents.

LIU is DI.

Another 4 more years of FloSports https://caasports.com/news/2023/2/9/football-caa-announces-comprehensive-media-rights-agreement-with-cbs-sports-and-flosports.aspx

we now have an eSports team: https://news.stonybrook.edu/university/stony-brooks-esports-team-tackles-the-competition/

tangential but interesting.  the trend of D2 to D1 somewhat continues.  in our home state. https://www.usalaxmagazine.com/college/men/le-moyne-jumping-to-division-i-will-join-northeast-conference

I have a major problem with this. Taking the name “Colonial” out of the CAA name, and calling it “Costal”. Why? I know why. Woke’ism is now in sport’s throughout tue Country.

Our country has gone to $hit in 21/2 years. Unbelievable!!!

https://twitter.com/shawnheilbron/status/1682027816257474560?s=46&t=7KMYSyXY-xt19pyKiYHvOg

Reason aside, I don't like the name change.  Colonial had a richer tone to it.