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Newsday Editorial-"Stony Brook U. on the Rise"
« on: October 16, 2011, 10:40:29 am »
Newsday suggests Stony Brook the defacto flagship of Suny. I'm really just trying to rise out of some other suny fans.

http://www.newsday.com/opinion/editorial-stony-brook-u-on-the-ascent-1.3246634

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Re: Newsday Editorial-"Stony Brook U. on the Rise"
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2011, 03:45:38 pm »
We need as much promo as we can get. Thank you Newsday!!! I wonder if SBU and Newsday have some sort of partnership because a new article comes out daily about something related to the University
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Re: Newsday Editorial-"Stony Brook U. on the Rise"
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2012, 02:34:14 pm »
https://alumniandfriends.stonybrook.edu/main-site/5.-get-involved/infinite-possibilities-tour-fall-2012-?erid=7146881&trid=d991d242-4347-4d19-9aab-bec69d86aced

Last night here in NYC i went to the Century Association for an intimate discussion with Dr. Stanley.  First off, he is a great speaker, no notes, went for about an hour, took questions, and was very funny.  I got to meet him and really liked him.  I already knew i liked his work.

He talked a lot about our accomplishments in the past few years- AAU, athletics, fellowships, new hires, private donations, Simons gift, attracting new talent, better faculty, rising SATs and GPAs, rising applicants, research projects, the medical center, new programs, etc.  Thats only partial.  This is an exciting time to be a part of such a great institution.

I didnt even mention the construction projects- bball arena, the stadium, hotel, wireless, rec center, 25a project, dorms etc and the list goes on.

I got to chat with him directly and i let him know that- our students, alumni, and former athletes (like yourselves) are doing our best to get the word out, watching games, donating money, going to campus, etc.  He was very excited about what we are doing- he said "i wish we could clone a hundred" of us fans.

We are in good hands.  The presentation was downright inspiring.

GO SB
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Re: Newsday Editorial-"Stony Brook U. on the Rise"
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2012, 07:18:50 pm »
That's great news Chair. The present and future are certainly bright. My only concern is the financial hit that NY state has taken because of that b*tch Sandy. I'm hoping it won't mean significant budget cuts for the next few years to deal with the $40 billion or so in losses. I guess we'll see.

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Re: Newsday Editorial-"Stony Brook U. on the Rise"
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2012, 08:37:37 pm »
That is really good news on Dr. Stanley. Never thought about the State of the State  after Sandy.  The campus is booming with construction or planned projects . I have watched it grow since my daughter started there in 1993. Totally different place today  and getting better.

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Re: Newsday Editorial-"Stony Brook U. on the Rise"
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2012, 01:25:54 pm »
I missed the event. I wanted to hear whats the latest on SBU. Our Alma Mater will keep growing and get better and better!
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Re: Newsday Editorial-"Stony Brook U. on the Rise"
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2012, 10:54:46 am »
Hello Guys. I just want to say I am a new to this board and fairly new S/B fan. I went to my very first game last year, The playoff game with Albany. Well, since then I'm hooked and haven't missed going to a game this year. I also recruited 8 others to join the games and I recently reserved a bunch of 2013 season tickets for me and some family members, chair back seats of course. I love reading all the great posts on this board too... :)...

I am really excited about the movement to the CAA and looking foward to some great games in 2013.  :)

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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2012, 08:18:06 pm »
Welcome to our board Hammertime. Great to have you !

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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2012, 12:58:58 pm »
Hammertime. Welcome to the Board. I hope you enjoy being here. Most of us here are very passionate about Stony Brook athletics and I'm glad you are as hooked as we are! :)

 
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Re: Newsday Editorial-"Stony Brook U. on the Rise"
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2012, 02:23:25 pm »
Hammertime welcome from all of us.

This is how its gonna be for right now- we pick up fans slowly.  And then, one day, when we are in the Final Four for football, lacrosse, baseball is in the World Series again, and basketball makes the tourney, it will pour in.  And youll have been there before it all happens!

Think im dreaming???  All of the above has either happened, or we were a hair away.  GO SB!!!
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2013, 08:43:26 pm »
I saw that   and showed  the article to my daughter -Class of '97.  Impressive isn't  the word , we are in some very good company and  can only go up.    Reading on the website what is going on out  there in medicine, science  and some of the accolades the faculty are receiving is great.  I always felt more of that should be  brought out in the  local media since we are an academic powerhouse.

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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2013, 09:43:31 am »
Fantastic plug for recruiting

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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2013, 11:36:21 pm »
Digging the web:

NY Times article back in 1997:

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/03/19/us/a-study-alters-criteria-in-rating-universities-and-stony-brook-soars.html?src=pm

A Study Alters Criteria in Rating Universities, and Stony Brook Soars

"Ratings are an American obsession. The best-dressed women. The most respected professions. The best movie sound track. The best graduate school programs. All have a lot to do with popularity, even in academe.

The granddaddy of university rankings is the National Research Council's 740-page tome, which uses hard data like how many academic papers are published or how many Ph.D.'s are produced. But, like the National Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences in awarding Oscars, the research council asks thousands of college professors to vote on which programs are best. The results affect Federal largesse in research grants, applications for enrollment and faculty recruiting.

Now a new study, published in late January, says reputations can be misleading. Using data like research dollars and numbers of publications, the authors have produced a new pecking order that places the State University of New York at Stony Brook in the same league as the University of California at Berkeley, the University of Michigan and the University of Wisconsin at Madison."

"The study, ''The Rise of American Research Universities: Elites and Challengers in the Postwar Era'' (Johns Hopkins University Press), by Hugh Davis Graham, a professor at Vanderbilt University, and Nancy Diamond, a graduate student in public policy at the University of Maryland at Baltimore County, argue that ratings based on reputation reflect yesterday's reality and understate the quality of some universities while overstating others.

The study ranks Stony Brook as the third-best public research university in the nation, behind only the University of California campuses at Berkeley and at Santa Barbara and ahead of both Michigan and Wisconsin. The study also ranks the State University of New York at Albany as 20th and the State University of New York at Buffalo as 31st.

Similarly, University of California campuses besides Berkeley and Santa Barbara did very well; the top 17 included U.C.L.A., San Diego, Riverside, Santa Cruz and Irvine.

''The strength of the new public institutions leaps out at you,'' said Professor Graham, who notes that some of these universities did not even exist at the end of World War II. Stony Brook, for example, was plunked down on Long Island's potato fields only 40 years ago, and Albany turned from a teachers college to a research university in 1963.

Among private universities, the rankings put Brandeis University, founded in 1948, tied for ninth place with Johns Hopkins. Stanford led the list, with Princeton second, followed by the University of Chicago, Harvard and Yale, all tied for third.

The study used conventional criteria like publications and research money but avoided criteria based on reputations. It also departed from tradition by giving smaller colleges a handicap; the scoring was averages per professor, not totals, which give bigger campuses an advantage.

The study used five criteria, all divided by the total number of faculty members: Federal grants for research and development, the number of journal articles published by its faculty members, the number of articles published in a smaller number of prestigious journals in science and technology and in the social and behavioral sciences, and awards in the arts and humanities.

The study counted fellowships from the Guggenheim Foundation and the American Council of Learned Societies and grants from the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities. The data covered 25 years, from 1965 to 1990.

Some ratings experts applauded the elimination of reputation as a criteria."

"'Reputations are very, very slow to change,'' said David S. Webster, an associate professor at Oklahoma State who specializes in university rankings. ''Even a guy like me, who likes to think he keeps up with college quality, sometimes finds he has not.''

Cornelius Pings, president of the Association of American Universities, a consortium of leading research universities, agrees. Mr. Pings said one reputational study declared that the California Institute of Technology had one of the nation's top 25 psychology departments. But Cal Tech did not have a psychology department.

Mr. Pings said the association, which has been criticized for being slow to take in up-and-coming institutions, would review the study ''to see if we can learn anything.''

The new data offer a welcome payoff to states like New York and California that have poured billions of dollars into their public universities only to have them thought of as solid and worthy, but not spectacular or great.

''In some ways, Stony Brook has been a well-kept secret,'' said Shirley Strum Kenny, president of the university. She plans to distribute the study to trustees and legislators.

Karen Hitchcock, president of the State University of New York at Albany, said: ''By taking the size factor out of the analysis, it demonstrates our quality very starkly. This study shows what investment can do, and shows the potential of further investment.''

What led Professor Graham and Ms. Diamond to rethink the rankings was the conviction that their own small, relatively young institution, the University of Maryland at Baltimore County, where Professor Graham taught in the mid-1980's and where Ms. Diamond was studying for a doctorate, was not getting the recognition it deserved.

Once reputations did not matter and size was adjusted for, ''lo and behold, U.M.B.C. looked very good,'' Ms. Diamond said.

Still, it is not Berkeley or Harvard. Brendan A. Maher, a Harvard professor who was co-chairman of the National Research Council's 1995 ratings, contended that reputational information is not simply a ''weird artifact,'' and challenged the adjustment for size.

''I would challenge immediately the whole business of correcting for size,'' Professor Maher said. ''The question is which you'd rather go to, a small hospital like Southern Massachusetts or a large one like Massachusetts General.''
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