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Chairman of the Board · « **Reply #300 on:** February 01, 2020, 11:00:16 am »

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Is the Stony Brook party scene as bad as they say?

Ok so I'm a senior right now in high school and I want to do pre med/pre dental in college. I'm mainly considering Suny Stony Brook, Suny Binghamton, and Suny Albany. I know that SBU is awesome academically, and I would love to go there, but I'm getting worried about the numerous student reviews all over the internet.

I want to go away to college to get a good education, but also party...a lot. I've heard that Stony Brook is pretty much dead on the weekends and that there are almost no parties. Is it true? Is it that bad that I should look to a lower ranked ( but still good) school like UAlbany? ( which is known for having a great nightlife/party scene).

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For many, many reasons though. I wouldn't recommend Stony Brook. I am considering transferring to Bing or Geneseo next fall because I believe I will be happier there. These statistics speak for themselves:

VA_Seawolf · « **Reply #301 on:** February 03, 2020, 01:22:38 am »

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Is the Stony Brook party scene as bad as they say?

Ok so I'm a senior right now in high school and I want to do pre med/pre dental in college. I'm mainly considering Suny Stony Brook, Suny Binghamton, and Suny Albany. I know that SBU is awesome academically, and I would love to go there, but I'm getting worried about the numerous student reviews all over the internet.

I want to go away to college to get a good education, but also party...a lot. I've heard that Stony Brook is pretty much dead on the weekends and that there are almost no parties. Is it true? Is it that bad that I should look to a lower ranked ( but still good) school like UAlbany? ( which is known for having a great nightlife/party scene).

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For many, many reasons though. I wouldn't recommend Stony Brook. I am considering transferring to Bing or Geneseo next fall because I believe I will be happier there. These statistics speak for themselves:

Unfortunately he's right. It really is as bad as they say. I can't say I've seen or heard of a more anti-social campus than SBU and that's a real shame. I don't even know why it started or who continues to perpetuate this anti-social culture, but it really doesn't do anything to prepare the students for the real world where networking and actually talking to people are more important skills than anything they'll ever learn in a classroom. Maybe it's some of the stick up the @$$ academic types in the administration who think any kind of social scene on the campus will turn the school into Arizona State overnight.

Hammertime · « **Reply #302 on:** February 03, 2020, 06:29:12 am »

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Is the Stony Brook party scene as bad as they say?

Ok so I'm a senior right now in high school and I want to do pre med/pre dental in college. I'm mainly considering Suny Stony Brook, Suny Binghamton, and Suny Albany. I know that SBU is awesome academically, and I would love to go there, but I'm getting worried about the numerous student reviews all over the internet.

I want to go away to college to get a good education, but also party...a lot. I've heard that Stony Brook is pretty much dead on the weekends and that there are almost no parties. Is it true? Is it that bad that I should look to a lower ranked ( but still good) school like UAlbany? ( which is known for having a great nightlife/party scene).

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For many, many reasons though. I wouldn't recommend Stony Brook. I am considering transferring to Bing or Geneseo next fall because I believe I will be happier there. These statistics speak for themselves:

Unfortunately he's right. It really is as bad as they say. I can't say I've seen or heard of a more anti-social campus than SBU and that's a real shame. I don't even know why it started or who continues to perpetuate this anti-social culture, but it really doesn't do anything to prepare the students for the real world where networking and actually talking to people are more important skills than anything they'll ever learn in a classroom. Maybe it's some of the stick up the @$$ academic types in the administration who think any kind of social scene on the campus will turn the school into Arizona State overnight.

I live in the surrounding areas of the University, trust me. There is absolutely no party or social life at SB. SB has one small Frat house, and it is in Bell Terre. My son who is currently going to school at Suffolk County Community College and is an honor student there and is also in the "Bridge" program to go into Stony Brook next year. That is, was the plan. He decided to not go to SB now after talking to a few of his friends who are currently enrolled in SB now. My son is going to try and get into Binghampton to finish up his college deg in Business.

Because I live so close to the University I am okay with this school NOT being a "college town" school. The people in the SB community don't want that and will fight the state tooth and nail to prevent this from ever happening. The community will never allow it to turn into a Syracuse party town..

guest369 · « **Reply #303 on:** February 03, 2020, 12:25:33 pm »

The new president absolutely needs to revamp the entire system from the top. It’s insane how we don’t require all first-year students to live on campus. Binghamton does that. UMass and UConn do it. I think there might be a reason for that!!!

There’s so much undeveloped land that the school can build new residence halls on. I’ve realized that despite the buildings we already have, the actual rooming capacity is low because they’re only 3-4 floors. Most colleges have complexes that are at least 10 stories - who the hell messed this up when they were designing this???

I hate the residents of the community for being such a roadblock. There’s got to be a way that the jurisdiction of the university can override them, but I’ve got a feeling they’re too scared of upsetting them. Forget that. When we develop the “college town” area, where would we put it? Everything’s already so clogged in terms of 25A, and that’s the area that’s within walking distance. Yeah, there’s a lot of “tech nerds” who go here now but that can’t be the entire explanation for the campus’ perpetual virginity.

Chairman of the Board · « **Reply #304 on:** February 03, 2020, 05:46:59 pm »

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Quote from: Chairman of the Board on February 01, 2020, 11:00:16 am
https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/suny-stony-brook/1576092-is-the-stony-brook-party-scene-as-bad-as-they-say.html

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Is the Stony Brook party scene as bad as they say?

Ok so I'm a senior right now in high school and I want to do pre med/pre dental in college. I'm mainly considering Suny Stony Brook, Suny Binghamton, and Suny Albany. I know that SBU is awesome academically, and I would love to go there, but I'm getting worried about the numerous student reviews all over the internet.

I want to go away to college to get a good education, but also party...a lot. I've heard that Stony Brook is pretty much dead on the weekends and that there are almost no parties. Is it true? Is it that bad that I should look to a lower ranked ( but still good) school like UAlbany? ( which is known for having a great nightlife/party scene).

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For many, many reasons though. I wouldn't recommend Stony Brook. I am considering transferring to Bing or Geneseo next fall because I believe I will be happier there. These statistics speak for themselves:

Unfortunately he's right. It really is as bad as they say. I can't say I've seen or heard of a more anti-social campus than SBU and that's a real shame. I don't even know why it started or who continues to perpetuate this anti-social culture, but it really doesn't do anything to prepare the students for the real world where networking and actually talking to people are more important skills than anything they'll ever learn in a classroom. Maybe it's some of the stick up the @$$ academic types in the administration who think any kind of social scene on the campus will turn the school into Arizona State overnight.

there should be a committee- and you should be on it.

Chairman of the Board · « **Reply #305 on:** February 03, 2020, 06:00:10 pm »

Quote from: Green Baron on February 03, 2020, 12:25:33 pm

The new president absolutely needs to revamp the entire system from the top. It’s insane how we don’t require all first-year students to live on campus. Binghamton does that. UMass and UConn do it. I think there might be a reason for that!!!

There’s so much undeveloped land that the school can build new residence halls on. I’ve realized that despite the buildings we already have, the actual rooming capacity is low because they’re only 3-4 floors. Most colleges have complexes that are at least 10 stories - who the hell messed this up when they were designing this???

I hate the residents of the community for being such a roadblock. There’s got to be a way that the jurisdiction of the university can override them, but I’ve got a feeling they’re too scared of upsetting them. Forget that. When we develop the “college town” area, where would we put it? Everything’s already so clogged in terms of 25A, and that’s the area that’s within walking distance. Yeah, there’s a lot of “tech nerds” who go here now but that can’t be the entire explanation for the campus’ perpetual virginity.

agreed on the tech nerd part- and that's a great thing, because tech is where the action is right now, and it's getting bigger. much bigger.

i was on campus recently. bench saturday night 8pm. 4 people, none of which were students. that's the only bar in the area.

for locale- sure, we need a college town, kids need something to do. coffee shops, bars, restaurants, music venues. i agree that town supersedes gown on this issue. so we should play to that- isolate the social activities to one area that wont disturb the locals. i think you go behind benedict college, or between roosevelt/tabler (or both). other options would be near the dental school / south P, but really, give kids any geographic reason to not go, and they won't go.

guest369 · « **Reply #306 on:** February 03, 2020, 06:12:50 pm »

I found some articles Circa 2012 where Stanley said that he had finalized plans about a corridor development on 25A - as well as a 1000-1500 bed housing complex near the LIRR. What the hell happened to that, I don’t know.

Moveitfred · « **Reply #307 on:** February 04, 2020, 11:43:30 am »

For whatever it's worth:

I've lived about a long walk from SBU almost 30 years now, and frankly not a whole lot has changed dramatically with the university and surrounding area in that time. I'm sure others of you agree. And where we might disagree is, I think that's a pretty good thing.

I have mixed feelings about our town and environment and all associated things. On the one hand I think, yeah, wouldn't it be great if the nearby Setauket/Stony Brook area or SBU campus had a bit more life--restaurants, bars, music, etc.--instead of feeling deeply dead and quiet, with quite a few boarded up storefronts (esp. in Setauket at the moment). A lively "college town" like the places my kids went to school.

As is the case in many communities, SBU and various surrounding constituencies have pushed for further development at various points in time while I have lived here. Most (at least the big ideas) never happened. Did you know, for example, at this moment in time there is a MAJOR push by owners of the nearby-to-SBU and mostly undeveloped Gyrodyne property to do a huge development on that land, including a hotel, medical park, and other businesses? The proposal calls for a single road off the property from all of that (hundreds of additional people/cars every day) onto 25A. How do you like that, neighbors and drivers on 25A? This proposal (and other big ones in the immediate area such as a big, new assisted living facility on what was open farm land) are moving through the Smithtown Board right now.

But let's say you like these ideas. Progress ahead and let's do more! Well, another big issue is sewage. Want more student housing at SBU? There is a huge difference between a single student/human driving to campus and maybe flushing one toilet that day vs living on campus and flushing a bunch of times, showering, etc. Multiply that by all your new resident students, and you get the idea. We people make a mess, and it has to go somewhere in its semi-treated form (and let's be honest, there are always untreated events that happen). Where will it go? The Gyrodyne proposal and other similar development proposals in the area call for a big, new treatment plant adjacent to SBU (can be smelly when the wind blows in your direction), new sewer lines (vs smaller cesspools currently used in much of the area), and a plan that will send all this new waste, either indirectly or directly, into Smithtown Bay/Stony Brook Harbor. Like to clam/boat/swim/fish/hang out and breathe fresh air around those mostly clean waters in the summer? That will end or be severely compromised.

I'll climb off my soapbox now. Point is, and this is certainly obvious, these things are complex and can have a significant impact and change the character of our area. Worth talking about, yes, and debating, but you just have to be careful what you wish for, methinks.

OldSeawolf · « **Reply #308 on:** February 04, 2020, 12:09:10 pm »

Quote from: Moveitfred on February 04, 2020, 11:43:30 am

For whatever it's worth:

I've lived about a long walk from SBU almost 30 years now, and frankly not a whole lot has changed dramatically with the university and surrounding area in that time. I'm sure others of you agree. And where we might disagree is, I think that's a pretty good thing.

I have mixed feelings about our town and environment and all associated things. On the one hand I think, yeah, wouldn't it be great if the nearby Setauket/Stony Brook area or SBU campus had a bit more life--restaurants, bars, music, etc.--instead of feeling deeply dead and quiet, with quite a few boarded up storefronts (esp. in Setauket at the moment). A lively "college town" like the places my kids went to school.

As is the case in many communities, SBU and various surrounding constituencies have pushed for further development and various points in time while I have lived here. Most (at least the big ideas) never happened. Did you know, for example, at this moment in time there is a MAJOR push by owners of the nearby-to-SBU and mostly undeveloped Gyrodyne property to do a huge development on that land, including a hotel, medical park, and other businesses? The proposal calls for a single road off the property from all of that (hundreds of additional people/cars every day) onto 25A. How do you like that, neighbors and drivers on 25A? This proposal (and other big ones in the immediate area such as a big, new assisted living facility on what was open farm land) are moving through the Smithtown Board right now.

But let's say you like these ideas. Progress ahead and let's do more! Well, another big issue is sewage. Want more student housing at SBU? There is a huge difference between a single student/human driving to campus and maybe flushing one toilet that day vs living on campus and flushing a bunch of times, showering, etc. Multiply that by all your new resident students, and you get the idea. We people make a mess, and it has to go somewhere in its semi-treated form (and let's be honest, there are always untreated events that happen). Where will it go? The Gyrodyne proposal and other similar development proposals in the area call for a big, new treatment plant adjacent to SBU (can be smelly when the wind blows in your direction), new sewer lines (vs smaller cesspools currently used in much of the area), and a plan that will send all this new waste, either indirectly or directly, into Smithtown Bay/Stony Brook Harbor. Like to clam/boat/swim/fish/hang out and breathe fresh air around those mostly clean waters in the summer? That will end or be severely compromised.

I'll climb off my soapbox now. Point is, and this is certainly obvious, these things are complex and can have a significant impact and change the character of our area. Worth taking about, yes, and debating, but you just have to be careful what you wish for, methinks.

Fred, I agree with you. As a fellow homeowner (I live about 15 mins from the University) who lives in an area very similar to Setauket/Stony Brook, I have seen several assisted living facilities built on what was once vacant farm land, countless strip malls being built, several proposals being currently under discussion regarding lower-income housing projects, and major congestion that has resulted over the years. I do realize that there is a push eastward on Long Island, and we do have a housing shortage of sorts, but when you see your neighborhood going through a metamorphasis like that and see its effect (negative) on housing prices, it hits home more. I've been in my current home for 26 years, and it's just not the same area that I bought into.

As a student, none of this matters; it's very hard to project out 15 years, and put yourself in our situation. Not that there is anything wrong with NYC (my son lives there and loves it, and I enjoy visiting it), but we chose to live out here to avoid that congested and hustle/bustle environment, among other reason. I don't think either of us want the area to turn into a congested city-like environment. Again, I'm sure many of you wouldn't agree with that.

guest369 · « **Reply #309 on:** February 07, 2020, 11:32:42 pm »

Stony Brook already has a college town. It’s just called Port Jefferson and is 5 miles away. If only we could geographically lift it all up and place it right next to the actual university.

Wolffan · « **Reply #310 on:** February 08, 2020, 06:40:45 am »

Quote from: Green Baron on February 07, 2020, 11:32:42 pm

Stony Brook already has a college town. It’s just called Port Jefferson and is 5 miles away. If only we could geographically lift it all up and place it right next to the actual university.

Either do that with Port Jefferson or magically move the Port Jefferson train station closer to the waterfront area. SBU students do have very convenient access to the Stony Brook train station and the 10-minute train journey to Port Jeff couldn't be easier or cheaper...problem is the train does not take you near Port Jeff's best destinations.

(Actually, this has long been a complaint of many folks who want to take the train to Port Jeff's ferry/restaurants from elsewhere on Long Island)

Chairman of the Board · « **Reply #311 on:** February 14, 2020, 11:21:07 am »

a bit dated but relevant: https://portjefferson.greaterlongisland.com/2019/02/28/free-shuttle-service-to-begin-running-between-stony-brook-university-and-port-jefferson/

Chairman of the Board · « **Reply #312 on:** February 21, 2020, 09:23:22 pm »

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Wolfie the SeaWolf from the Stony Brook University SeaWolves.

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Chairman of the Board · « **Reply #313 on:** June 09, 2020, 08:53:45 am »

just to cross reference a relevant discussion: http://sbufan.createaforum.com/general-discussion/shawn-heilbron/msg30610/#msg30610

Chairman of the Board · « **Reply #314 on:** August 07, 2020, 10:30:49 am »

new photos of the Student Union: https://twitter.com/stonybrookalum/status/1291742175496200193

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