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Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
« on: February 07, 2023, 09:08:14 am »
it's been 10 years.  so it's time.  let's recap what progress we have made. http://sbufan.createaforum.com/around-stony-brook/making-sb-better-idea-thread/

college town: no movement.  i suppose some new shops on 25a were added, but i dont think it's moved the needle.  PJ bus was a good idea but im not sure if its still running nor who uses it.

quads: i was on campus over the weekend.  while it's light years better than 25 years ago, nothing much has moved in the last 10.  still mud and broken concrete, rusty tanks, puddles, garbage, dirt, weeds everywhere.  yes i walked all around campus i always do. 

hall naming: some progress.  noble hall, chavez, tubman, for example.

school naming: no progress.

tower: the wang center went up 20 years ago but i think the question is- does that make the U recognizable, where HS students see it and automatically think SBU.  i think no.

building aesthetics- not a ton of movement, but it was about time they renovated the Union (and the Bridge).  so that's a victory.  (this excludes new construction; i'm limiting this to existing buildings.)

NYC presence: none, but we are a finalist for the governor's island opportunity.  that'd be great.

housing crisis: no progress, though, you could argue increased enrollment is a good thing of course

student hierarchy / honors dorms: none

tradition: still none, in fact, may have retreated much

legends: still very little, still losing time

rivalry: what we may have built with UMBC and vermont and SUNYs is maybe gone, maybe even JMU.  though, things are looking up for the CAA, whether it's W&M, Del, Towson, hof, etc.

student activities: abysmal.  maybe improved but still abysmal. 

weekends: worse than abysmal.  so no movement.  the reviews are in. 

fight song: we have one, but most really dont know it or care.  so no real progress.

athletics: bball made the jump, but that's not the point.  the point is bball shouldve made the jump 4-5 times already.  so it's a huge letdown.  so is football.  wlax has been an outperformer, maybe even wbball.  baseball does it's usual, i think, which is good to great.

athletics attendance: still awful, but perhaps improved.  a bit.  am i wrong?  i dont believe in build it and they will come.  the proof is in.

student misery/disaffection: still at a level unparalleled with pretty much any other university on earth. 

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please feel free to add/remove/expand.  the point is- we are losing time- and ground- to our peers.  this is very damaging to the university and holds us back from being truly great among the likes of UNC, UCLA, UVa, mich, texas, etc.

on the brighter side, the academic reputation and accolades continue to roll in.  big victories in- keeping tuition down, lion's share of state funding (comparatively), flagship designation, diversity initiatives, economic mobility, etc. have continued to garner attention.  USNWR climb.  added a great seal.  new pharma school.  beer at athletics.  there's been much construction on campus which is good.  javits reno underway.  new food halls are amazing.  athletic facilities have grown and will continue to.  conference jump.  the new pres at least mentioned student life and athletics, showed up to a game, etc. 
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2023, 08:23:38 pm »
The theme is nothing as far as student life and athletics has changed much. SBU still has the same reputation of being a commuter school that's dead on weekends with no real emphasis on athletics or student activities.

The academic reputation has technically improved, but at what cost? We're really the school for NYC kids who want a good deal and those who think grades/school are everything. That's it.

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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2023, 09:52:07 am »
interesting discussion here:

Is Stony Brook a diverse campus? We asked students what they think.
https://www.sbstatesman.com/2023/02/21/is-stony-brook-a-diverse-campus-we-asked-students-what-they-think/


wayyy back when i was there, SB was the most diverse place i've ever seen.  more than NYC.  however, much like other parts of LI, i dont think SB was integrated.  maybe it's changed but i get out to campus and in the limited amount ive seen it's not much different. 
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2023, 01:31:48 pm »
https://alumniandfriends.stonybrook.edu/site/DocServer/Stony_Brook_Foundation_President_s_Report_March_2023.pdf?docID=4381

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ADVANCEMENT UPDATE
Since the start of the 2023 fiscal year, $35.7 million has been generously pledged or contributed
by more than 6,024 donors. Their investments in our students, research, healthcare and
campus programs provide critical support, helping to elevate the University.
Generous contributions since the last update include:
• $2.6 million in gifts to the Pediatric Emergency Department Expansion
• $2.5 million pledge to the Stony Brook Athletics Baseball/Softball Complex
• $1.5 million planned gift for an Endowed Chair in the Department of Sociology
• $1.5 million pledge for PhD/Graduate Fellowships in the Department of Chemistry
• $1.5 million pledge to establish an Endowed Chair in the Department of Obstetrics and
Gynecology
• $500,000 in gifts and pledges to the Stony Brook Athletics Men’s Basketball program
• $450,000 gift to the Staller Center for the Arts
• $437,000 gift to the School of Dental Medicine to improve access for pediatric oral
healthcare
• $375,000 pledge to the School of Marine and Atmospheric Sciences
• $250,000 gift to the Math Department Distinguished Lecture in Algebra and Algebraic
Geometry
• $250,000 gift towards Renaissance School of Medicine scholarship support
• $230,000 gift towards STEM outreach programming
• $200,000 gift to the Alan Alda Center for Communicating Science
• $200,000 in support of the Carol Baldwin Breast Cancer Research fund
• $200,000 gift to the Department of Pharmacology Laboratory of Chemical Biology
• $150,000 pledge to the Foodlab at Stony Brook Southampton
• $105,000 gift to support the Garcia Center for Polymers in the College of Engineering
and Applied Sciences
• $100,000 gift to Stony Brook Athletics
• $100,000 gift towards student scholarships in the Political Science Department
• $100,000 gift towards student scholarships in the Department of Electrical Engineering
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2023, 03:57:16 pm »
tuition hike???

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SUNY needs a tuition hike
Solve this problem: How can New York's public colleges and universities continue to offer a quality education when a lack of funding is causing them to reduce staff, increase class size and delay new initiatives?

Gov. Kathy Hochul's solution is a tuition increase for students from households earning more than $125,000. If the State Legislature agrees, CUNY and most SUNY schools will likely enact a 3% increase while the system's four university centers — Stony Brook, Albany, Buffalo and Binghamton — would impose a 6% hike. The annual hikes would be authorized for five years. It's tough math but Hochul's answer is correct.

For New Yorkers, SUNY would still be a good deal. A combination of TAP and Pell grants, along with Excelsior scholarships, already cover the full tuition costs of 53% of SUNY students and 80% of CUNY enrollees, and those grants would increase to match any tuition hikes.

The need for more revenue is especially acute for Stony Brook, one of SUNY's two flagship universities. With 24,000 students and a top medical center, it is making solid strides to place in the top tier of the nation's public universities. Currently, tuition at SBU is $7,070 a year. That's less that other top state schools in the Northeast such as Rutgers (where tuition is $12,900), the University of Connecticut ($15,772) and Penn State ($19,286). After five years of increases, SBU would still be among the very lowest at $10,655.

The governor's budget proposal, tied to the inflation rate for higher education, comes after a decade of little increase in state operating aid and a tuition freeze since 2019. As a result, facilities are worn down, laboratories are out of date, and the ranks of professors and administrative staff have shrunk. Most of SBU's buildings were built more than a half-century ago; $1.8 billion in deferred maintenance awaits.

As college enrollments decrease nationwide, attendance at SUNY schools would erode if their programs and campuses start to decline.

While students are being asked to pay more, so are state taxpayers. Hochul’s budget proposal includes $400 million in new funding for capital projects, $200 million to bolster IT infrastructure and a $500 million pot for matching contributions made to the four university centers. This first-of-its-kind matching grant program can attract more support for the important research being done at Stony Brook from biofuels and batteries to hydrogen fuel and quantum internet technology.

The hikes come at a difficult financial time for many in this unsettled economy. Hochul's proposal has been met with a ferocious pushback from state legislators who not only oppose a hike but unrealistically counter that CUNY and SUNY should be free for all. With this small and predictable tuition increase, these schools can continue to provide an excellent education and ensure that their diplomas remain a valuable credential.




Stony Brook reacts to planned SUNY tuition increase
https://www.sbstatesman.com/2023/03/28/stony-brook-reacts-to-planned-suny-tuition-increase/


Report: Stony Brook University Tuition Could Rise 51% in 5 Years Under Executive Budget Proposal
https://www.longisland.com/news/03-27-23/report-stony-brook-university-tuition-could-rise-51-in-5-years-under-executive-budget-proposal.html


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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2023, 09:10:58 pm »
tuition hike???

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SUNY needs a tuition hike
Solve this problem: How can New York's public colleges and universities continue to offer a quality education when a lack of funding is causing them to reduce staff, increase class size and delay new initiatives?

Gov. Kathy Hochul's solution is a tuition increase for students from households earning more than $125,000. If the State Legislature agrees, CUNY and most SUNY schools will likely enact a 3% increase while the system's four university centers — Stony Brook, Albany, Buffalo and Binghamton — would impose a 6% hike. The annual hikes would be authorized for five years. It's tough math but Hochul's answer is correct.

For New Yorkers, SUNY would still be a good deal. A combination of TAP and Pell grants, along with Excelsior scholarships, already cover the full tuition costs of 53% of SUNY students and 80% of CUNY enrollees, and those grants would increase to match any tuition hikes.

The need for more revenue is especially acute for Stony Brook, one of SUNY's two flagship universities. With 24,000 students and a top medical center, it is making solid strides to place in the top tier of the nation's public universities. Currently, tuition at SBU is $7,070 a year. That's less that other top state schools in the Northeast such as Rutgers (where tuition is $12,900), the University of Connecticut ($15,772) and Penn State ($19,286). After five years of increases, SBU would still be among the very lowest at $10,655.

The governor's budget proposal, tied to the inflation rate for higher education, comes after a decade of little increase in state operating aid and a tuition freeze since 2019. As a result, facilities are worn down, laboratories are out of date, and the ranks of professors and administrative staff have shrunk. Most of SBU's buildings were built more than a half-century ago; $1.8 billion in deferred maintenance awaits.

As college enrollments decrease nationwide, attendance at SUNY schools would erode if their programs and campuses start to decline.

While students are being asked to pay more, so are state taxpayers. Hochul’s budget proposal includes $400 million in new funding for capital projects, $200 million to bolster IT infrastructure and a $500 million pot for matching contributions made to the four university centers. This first-of-its-kind matching grant program can attract more support for the important research being done at Stony Brook from biofuels and batteries to hydrogen fuel and quantum internet technology.

The hikes come at a difficult financial time for many in this unsettled economy. Hochul's proposal has been met with a ferocious pushback from state legislators who not only oppose a hike but unrealistically counter that CUNY and SUNY should be free for all. With this small and predictable tuition increase, these schools can continue to provide an excellent education and ensure that their diplomas remain a valuable credential.




Stony Brook reacts to planned SUNY tuition increase
https://www.sbstatesman.com/2023/03/28/stony-brook-reacts-to-planned-suny-tuition-increase/


Report: Stony Brook University Tuition Could Rise 51% in 5 Years Under Executive Budget Proposal
https://www.longisland.com/news/03-27-23/report-stony-brook-university-tuition-could-rise-51-in-5-years-under-executive-budget-proposal.html

My son is a senior at SBU and I pay a lot more then $7000 a year for his school.

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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2023, 10:38:14 am »
Probably another $3-4k? That’s fees. Every student pays. Other colleges also have fees in addition to tuition.

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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2023, 05:29:35 pm »
another thing that SB does wrong that others get right- organizations not working towards a common goal. https://www.sbstatesman.com/2023/04/23/stony-brook-media-relations-has-a-troubled-history-with-student-media/
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2023, 08:43:42 pm »
The state of the university: what McInnis has to say
https://www.sbstatesman.com/2023/04/23/the-state-of-the-university-what-mcinnis-has-to-say/

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McInnis addressed the proposed 30% State University of New York (SUNY) tuition increase, parking changes, the CulinArt investigation, racist incidents on campus and other issues. The Statesman, The Stony Brook Press, Black World and The Stony Brook Media Group were in attendance.

“Over the last 12 years, there have only been modest tuition increases,” McInnis said. “It means that we have had to pay for inflationary costs, the most significant of which are the contracted salary increases that are negotiated by the state and mandatory that we pay.”

The increase still leaves Stony Brook thousands of dollars cheaper than in-state tuition of surrounding states, McInnis said.




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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2023, 11:38:46 pm »
really good to see the roth regatta is still going strong:
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2023, 03:13:56 pm »
If Stony Brook University truly wants to go “far beyond,” it needs to address its administration issues
https://sbpress.com/2023/05/if-stony-brook-university-truly-wants-to-go-far-beyond-it-needs-to-address-its-administration-issues/

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Although Stony Brook is a fierce competitor with the best universities in the country, problems in areas such as infrastructure, parking, housing, Wi-Fi connectivity and more create inconveniences that, when added together, can affect students’ ability to learn.

Even though commuter students make up almost 50% of the campus population, they only have access to six of the 42 parking lots on campus. To park in five of these locations — lots 3, 5A, 5B, 6A and 24 — students have to pay $112.50 per semester. These lots, also known as commuter premium lots, are at a walking distance from the academic mall. The only other option is Lot 40, formerly known as South P — an enormous square of parking spots with “Wolfie’s Hut” at its heart. However, it is a 15 to 20 minute bus ride away from the main campus, causing inconveniences for students who have to factor in an unpredictable bus schedule and wait in very long lines that can spread around the hut.   

Beyond problems with the elevator, students who answered the form also expressed concerns about moldy dorms, a shortage of washers and dryers and lack of prior notice from the university when a new student is placed in the dorm

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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2023, 03:17:43 pm »
a saturday in october with a multi-band lineup.  while i applaud the effort, look at the crowd: https://sbpress.com/2023/03/the-return-of-the-bash/
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2023, 06:23:52 am »
I wasn't sure where to put this but. WOW!!! This is big money. Sadly, none of it will find its way to SBU athletics. Nonetheless, this is huge for SBU.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/01/nyregion/stony-brook-university-gift.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes&fbclid=IwAR2rQ6KVXu2EIWvgcvA4cUBAZT-AyBQ3esWn8-8OrBWiJ52tirsFSapmPHs

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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2023, 10:41:49 am »
The money is no strings attached. I'm sure at some point this will very much benefit the athletics department

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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2023, 11:02:18 am »
The money is no strings attached. I'm sure at some point this will very much benefit the athletics department

Not if history repeats itself. Simon has zero interest in athletics. I'm pretty sure he made that clear years ago. I'll have to try and dig deep for that.